vg|Norwegian Teams Ch_ship,Rond 5A,I,1,32,Flekkefjord BK,0,Studentenes BK,0| rs|4DS=,5DSx-1,4SE+1,4HSx-2,3HS=,2HS=,6DW=,6DW=,3NS-1,3CN=,3SE-1,3SE-1,3NS+1,3DN+1,3DN-1,3DN=,4SN+1,3NS+3,4SS=,5HWx-3,6NS=,5HS+1,4SN+1,5SN=,4SN=,2SN+2,2HW=,2HW-1,4HE=,3SS=,3NS+1,2HS+2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,| pn|B. Brogela,Ø. Lerfald,K. Ljung,J. Ringset,E. Lindqui,Kjetil Myh,Erik Eide,Geir Austa|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SHJ9DAQ9865CAK876,S762HAK653D7CJ952,SQJT5HT872D432CQ3,SAK9843HQ4DKJTCT4|sv|o|nt|fred: Boye is the only one of these players I know. He is young, charming, a great player, and I am told he is a fine writer as well (though my Norwegian is not good enough to understand ...|pg|| nt|fred: what he writes!)|pg|| nt|roswolf: lots of potential action on this hAND|pg|| nt|henryb: A typical BBO hand to start: a 6-5 misfit|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2N|nt|fred: On this deal NS can win 10 tricks in diamonds while EW can win 9 tricks in spades with all the cards in view|pg|| nt|fred: 8 tricks maybe more likely - to win 9 you would have to take first round deep finesse in spades - if the contract is 4@S that would give up on making |pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: Boye is not done bidding yet |pg|| nt|henryb: On the other hand after 2N maybe you should give up on making|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|henryb: North has a pretty good hand on this auction|pg|| nt|fred: I think this is another example of a principle I alluded to in the previous segment|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment all round i think|pg|| pc|h2|nt|fred: Ljung has a useful hand, but Brogeland can play him for a little something|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s2|nt|henryb: For those of us who missed it ...|pg|| nt|fred: if that's all Boye needed to make 5@D, he can bid more himself|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|fred: not practical to play a style that guards against your partner having a useless hand|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|fred: that puts too much pressure on the weak hand to raise with a not quite useless hand|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| nt|henryb: with the @hAK on his left, Boye will be fairly sure about the @dK|pg|| nt|fred: so good judgment all around in the bidding on this one|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h7|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SHJ9DAQ9865CAK876,S762HAK653D7CJ952,SQJT5HT872D432CQ3,SAK9843HQ4DKJTCT4|sv|o|nt|vugraph103: :o)) Sikkert|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|papa hall: 2NT?|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|johnp: tja, nesten så kansje|pg|| nt|johnp: syns 2@s er litt undermelding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|papa hall: Många spelar 2NT som antingen starkt eller svagt - inte mitt emellan. Den här handen är nog mitt i|pg|| mb|4H|nt|johnp: her bruker mange 2 NT som Stenberg invitt i denne pos.|pg|| nt|papa hall: :)....Jag menar Syd|pg|| nt|johnp: da er jeg enig|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|papa hall: Med det högfärgsinnehavet hoppades nog Eide att motståndarna skulle bjuda på 5-nivån och inte dubbla|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ42HA9854DAQ4C94,SJ965HK763DCJT873,S8HQTDKJ987653CQ6,SAKT73HJ2DT2CAK52|sv|n|nt|roswolf: another distributional hand|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|fred: On this deal EW can make 5@S or 5@C while NS have 4 losers if they play in diamonds|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: On board 1 the juniors got to 5@DX|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|fred: Presumably here 3@D is some kind of artificial spade raise. For some pairs a DBL with the N hand would be "takeout of spades" (as opposed to diamond-showing)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: What's that Jon, some kind of Bergen or mini-splinter?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: minisplinter on a void i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|fred: Given the vulnerability and all of his losers, I agree with Ljung's decision to not get involved|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: Bergen is no big hit in Norway (apart from my home town that is)|pg|| nt|fred: on some hands staying silent with shapely hands gains because bidding makes it easier for the opps to guess if they end up declaring|pg|| nt|roswolf: pesumably 3@D was some kind of raise (splinter?) and if so i wonder why north didnt double - his side may be cold for game!|pg|| nt|fred: personally I like North's decision to stay silent|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes fred but at the vulnerability surely there is a great danger of beig conned by the opps|pg|| pc|dA|nt|fred: i don't think it is very likely|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our operator is Sverre Johan Aal. Good evening to you too|pg|| nt|fred: opps will usually have at least half the high cards in the deck|pg|| nt|vugraph175: hi all :)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|fred: and your 2 Qx holdings suggest that partner may have fewer useful high cards than you would need for bidding to be right|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|skjaeran: Sverre is making his debut as operator - good luck!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: yes good luck sverre|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|roswolf: true that is a valid point fred|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|skjaeran: Each table got it's own set of cards now - both starting at board 1.|pg|| pc|h3|nt|henryb: So KJ eighth and no side cards would be better?|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|fred: i think it would increase the chances that you could make 5@D|pg|| nt|fred: from close to 0% to maybe 5%|pg|| nt|skjaeran: lol!|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h6|nt|fred: and i don't think N should get involved in saving at this vul|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|nt|henryb: also probably increase the chance that they go down|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQ42HA9854DAQ4C94,SJ965HK763DCJT873,S8HQTDKJ987653CQ6,SAKT73HJ2DT2CAK52|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|papa hall: Ingen minisplinter?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|johnp: Det hadde jeg ventet - dette kan da ikke være sperr|pg|| mb|4H|nt|papa hall: Sällan motståndarna har 11 kort i en färg, halva honnörsstyrkan - och ändå inte bjuder|pg|| mb|d|nt|papa hall: I alla fall inte den färgen :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|johnp: Det var en dristig variant|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|johnp: og slett ikke nødvendig over 3@s|pg|| nt|papa hall: @D till stöld är ju uppenbart nu :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|johnp: Hvis de bruker UDA så hadde @c J vært et obligatorisk avkast|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Velkommen til Kenneth Skov|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er du blevet mæt?|pg|| nt|johnp: Hei Kenneth|pg|| nt|papa hall: Hej Kenneth|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|kskov: God kveld alle sammen|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|d6|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJ97HT962DQ862CQT,SA86HQ5DKJCAJ8742,SKT543HAJ73DATCK5,SQ2HK84D97543C963|sv|e|nt|fred: what do you think of 1NT opening on West hand?|pg|| mb|p|nt|skjaeran: OK with me|pg|| mb|1N|nt|roswolf: almost automatic assuming playing a strong nt|pg|| nt|henryb: I don't mind although I would not|pg|| nt|jbgood: me too|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I think all playing 15-17 NT in this field will open 1NT|pg|| nt|fred: i like it a lot, but one of my heroes, the late Edgar Kaplan, hated 1NT openings with 6-card minors|pg|| mb|2C|an|majors|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|fred: nowadays it seems that people strive to bid when the opps open 1NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: now will e/w compete too much in the minors?|pg|| nt|fred: that makes life hard when you actually have a good hand like North does here|pg|| nt|skjaeran: They do, especially vs strong NT|pg|| nt|henryb: I think it substabtially increases the playing strength and decreases the defensive values|pg|| nt|fred: because you know your partner will give you a lot of rope (because you will often have a bad hand)|pg|| nt|fred: ie partner will not be so eager to jump if he has a hand that could produce a game - because you could have nothing|pg|| nt|roswolf: do we know if screens are in use?|pg|| mb|3H|nt|skjaeran: Yes - they are|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: thx|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|roswolf: hmm not the best lead|pg|| nt|fred: No but not at all unreasonable in my view|pg|| nt|fred: no really appealing lead from the West hand|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|roswolf: well i would have lead a black card|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: Skjæran should know - being chief tournament director|pg|| nt|skjaeran: What to lead Jon? : -)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jbgood: not sure I would have bid 3@h on the north collection though|pg|| nt|jbgood: no - screens:))|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|roswolf: on bdr 2 n/s in the other room took the vul save in 4@HX and lost 2 imps|pg|| nt|skjaeran: But I told you that we use screens already!|pg|| nt|fred: to make this declarer will have to avoid 2 trump losers - on the actual layout i don't see any way that the defense can make that difficult for him to do|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|fred: At the other table North judged well to Pass 2@H after the same start.|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jbgood: so another imp for Flekkefjord|pg|| nt|fred: West at that table chose to lead the @CA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SJ97HT962DQ862CQT,SA86HQ5DKJCAJ8742,SKT543HAJ73DATCK5,SQ2HK84D97543C963|sv|e|nt|papa hall: Tyckte inte om Syds budgivning|pg|| mb|p|nt|johnp: ikke jeg heller, men vi har jo ikke lov å bruke sterke adjektiv|pg|| mb|1N|nt|papa hall: Har du också fått förbud av Roland?|pg|| mb|2C|an|Begge Major|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kskov: helt enig, en uheldig variant. han hadde en utgangs-sving inne, og endte opp med å tape 2 imp|pg|| nt|papa hall: 2@C majors?|pg|| nt|johnp: jeg regner sterkt med at han ville holdt opp en finger i så fall:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|johnp: Nå glemte han vel å avblokkere @c k?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|papa hall: La han inte kungen??|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|kskov: Burde vært inne på hånden nå ja|pg|| pc|hA|nt|johnp: det har vært en lang dag, og slikt er jo typisk når man er litt sliten|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kskov: utspillet tyder på @c lengde hos Vest, og da øker oddsen for honnør dobbel i @h hos Vest|pg|| nt|papa hall: ? NU tror jag inte på det här|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|papa hall: Om spelföring och försvar verkligen stämde kräver jag att få använda starka adjektiv|pg|| nt|vugraph103: Jeg tror jammen lindquist spilte hjerter 9 fra hånden selv om han var inne i bordet.|pg|| nt|johnp: kun i privat chat Andreas:)))))|pg|| nt|kskov: enig, det er berettiget med noen kraft-uttrykk|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2ST85HA8532DJC8432,S97HKQ9D97543CJ96,S643HJT764D82CAT5,SAKQJ2HDAKQT6CKQ7|sv|b|nt|fred: East has a nice hand :)|pg|| nt|fred: 6@D a wonderful contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: Even 6@s is not too shabby|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes and they should get a free run in the bidding too|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 6@D reached in the closed room just now|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|skjaeran: Not often you hold a 1-loser hand!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|henryb: I expect he will make 7|pg|| nt|fred: very normal - i would surprised if any top level partnership reached a contract other than 6@D|pg|| mb|2N|nt|fred: I wonder if the "i don't open 2@C on 2-suited hands" crowd would make an exception here :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|roswolf: yes indeed |pg|| nt|henryb: 1@s is a little scary|pg|| nt|fred: here is a good spot for "exclusion blackwood" - a jump to 5@H asking for keycards not counting the @HA|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|d|nt|henryb: It will get him a club lead|pg|| nt|skjaeran: ROPI on?|pg|| nt|fred: that convention tends to be seriously abused, but when you have the right hand for it (East's is obviously perfect) it is an invaluable tool to have|pg|| mb|r|nt|skjaeran: Seems like that XX showing 0 keycards|pg|| nt|roswolf: i hope they are on the same wavelength!|pg|| nt|fred: normal blackwood would not be a good choice - if partner showed 1 Ace you would not know if it was the @HA or the @CA|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: they are|pg|| nt|fred: well done by EW|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice|pg|| nt|skjaeran: For top players this was no bidding challenge.|pg|| nt|fred: EW at the other table had a different way to solve this problem|pg|| nt|fred: the auction started the same way, but East cuebid 4@H over 4@D|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|fred: expecting his partner to cuebid the @CA if he had it|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And west denied a black control|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2ST85HA8532DJC8432,S97HKQ9D97543CJ96,S643HJT764D82CAT5,SAKQJ2HDAKQT6CKQ7|sv|b|mb|p|nt|johnp: men vi kan jo si at resultatet til slutt ble rettferdig|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kskov: rutinert variant av unge Lindquist i så tilfelle|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|papa hall: Jag håller på att räkna Östs förlorare. Behöver Rolands finger|pg|| nt|kskov: både 6@d og 6@s er spillbart her|pg|| nt|vugraph103: det var derfor alt gikk i ball for meg her|pg|| nt|johnp: hvorfor ikke 3@d?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|johnp: nå har han en vanskelig gjenmelding|pg|| nt|kskov: enkel 4@d|pg|| mb|4D|nt|johnp: vanskelig å passere 3 NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|kskov: 5@h exclusion bw hadde vært fint, men de har kanskje ikke den på reportoaret|pg|| nt|kskov: de får bra kontroll nå også, 5@d og en enkel løft til 6@d fra øst|pg|| nt|papa hall: Har Väst några alternativ till 5@D?|pg|| mb|5D|nt|kskov: nei|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|nt|johnp: dette fungerer også - benekter @c ess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Vad funderar han då på? :)|pg|| nt|kskov: ja si det.....|pg|| nt|papa hall: Visst känns det skönt att lägga upp så bra trumfstöd....och litet vid sidan om :)|pg|| nt|johnp: 3@d i V og Excluc. i Ø hadde vært en strålende sekvens|pg|| mb|p|nt|kskov: Boye var i 3@h på forrige spill, men han fikk den hjem|pg|| nt|vugraph103: eide lurte bare på mld. forløpet|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|johnp: da ble det 13|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|kskov: burde være raskt overstått den her....|pg|| nt|papa hall: Boye fick litet hjälp...@D K ut...och sedan tog V @C kung med esset vilket gjorde att Syd hade flera ingångar|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT943HA9DJ75CQ64,SKQ765HKQ5DAK42C5,SHJT764D86CAK8732,SJ82H832DQT93CJT9|sv|n|nt|fred: no dull boards this match :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: absolutely the fun continues|pg|| nt|fred: EW have half the deck and a 5-3 spade fit, but most likely they will never bid that suit|pg|| nt|fred: which is just as well given how they break|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| nt|fred: If N passes, South will open with a lightish 1@S in 3rd position|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: I suspect Brogeland to be the first one bidding spades:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|fred: and unless North has some convention available to show a 2-suiter like this, he should Pass|pg|| mb|1S|nt|fred: he has the playing strength to open...|pg|| nt|jbgood: and was wrong:(|pg|| nt|fred: but such hands are easier to bid by passing first and bidding later|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|fred: seemed like a safe prediction, but Brogeland is full of surprises|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hmm now west has bid @S there could be fireworks|pg|| nt|roswolf: north should pass|pg|| nt|fred: I would have bid a Michaels 2@S with the North hand (instead of 2@C)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: You can follow all the matches at: http://resultater.bk2000.org/main.aspx|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - it is always fun to watch Boye :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes i agree it would have been better|pg|| nt|fred: If North decides to bid 4@H, Ringset will have to find the diamond lead to beat 5@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|skjaeran: In the other 3 matches there are no comparisions before 9 boards are played, since they share boards.|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|roswolf: anyone for winning and playing a @H back?|pg|| nt|fred: that looks like a bad lead, but it really doesn't matter - always exactly 8 tricks on this one|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|roswolf: well done defence|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|d2|nt|jbgood: y|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|fred: I like Lerfald's choice of opening lead here - I think he maximized chances for the defense|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Ands|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And Studentene entering the scoreboard with 5 IMP's|pg|| nt|fred: top diamond also ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|vugraph175: players now on a short break|pg|| nt|fred: but definitely not a hand for 4th from your longest and strongest (though that too would have been fine on the actual deal)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Øystein Lerfald ("Dølle") passed me on his way out for a smoke.|pg|| nt|jbgood: any lead but a small @h really:)|pg|| nt|henryb: So he was a 12-1 favorite|pg|| nt|roswolf: it often is fred - btw i made a rule for myself that when i dont have a clue what to lead (which is most of the time!)i lead 4th best -|pg|| nt|jbgood: good odds:)|pg|| nt|fred: i like that rule geoff - "4th from your longest and strongest" has withstood the test of time for a reason :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| nt|jbgood: even though there are a few who claim that it is better to lead from a 4 c suit than a 5 carder - Sabine Auken being among them|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAT943HA9DJ75CQ64,SKQ765HKQ5DAK42C5,SHJT764D86CAK8732,SJ82H832DQT93CJT9|sv|n|nt|johnp: telte jeg feil?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|kskov: han var fornøyd med 12|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Naturligt? Undrar om alla spelar så? Nu räddades han av Nord|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|johnp: nå lurer nok Ø på hva som skjer|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kskov: hmm, han kunne spilt uten risiko på 10....|pg|| nt|kskov: det er nå greitt det er lagkamp det her, men et imp er et imp|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SQHJ6DAK75432CA76,SAK53HAT87DJ9CJ83,S862HKQ54DQ8CT542,SJT974H932DT6CKQ9|sv|e|nt|henryb: I am a great believer in 4th best, although recently it has not worked too well|pg|| nt|fred: Normal for NS to get a small plus score here. they can make 3@D and 3@S NS is down 1|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: a partscore battle on this one|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3D|nt|fred: defense has to be a little careful against a diamond contract - if they play 2 rounds of spades declarer can make 10 tricks|pg|| nt|fred: early club play necessary to hold declarer to 9|pg|| mb|p|nt|fred: the bidding started the same way at the other table, but West there raised aggressively to 3@S where Lerfald passed|pg|| nt|jbgood: Jean Besse also advocated leading from 4 crd suits rather than 5 Hedy Grey tells me - and he knew something about bridge:)|pg|| nt|henryb: In the competetive auction is 3@d just long @d?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: i think so|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|nt|fred: for me 3@D has roughly the same range as it would in non-competitive auction |pg|| nt|henryb: So what do you do with a GOOD hand and long @d?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jbgood: then 2@s?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|henryb: Isn't that @h support?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|roswolf: either 2@H or double i suppose|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|henryb: Isn't double support?|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@S|pg|| nt|fred: declarer has some chance to make here if an opponent has 2 high honors doubleton in hearts - an endplay can be arranged|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|fred: won't work on this layout, but declarer has no other chance|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|henryb: or perhaps a croc|pg|| nt|fred: Right - or failure to unblock with Kx|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|henryb: if south had Qx of hearts|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|fred: good play heart to Ace as soon as possible|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice try|pg|| pc|h7|nt|fred: none of this matters on the actual hand but good effort|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|henryb: A crocodile coup is when an opponent has to play high to swallow partner's honor|pg|| nt|fred: If South had been forced to win this trick, he would have to surrender ruff and discard|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SQHJ6DAK75432CA76,SAK53HAT87DJ9CJ83,S862HKQ54DQ8CT542,SJT974H932DT6CKQ9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|papa hall: Vid andra bordet hade man tillgång till Voidwood|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|kskov: for tøft å melde 3@s nå synest jeg|pg|| nt|papa hall: Spelar N/S med stark @C?|pg|| nt|johnp: Pass ble rett avgjørelse...|pg|| nt|kskov: nei|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|kskov: naturlig system på NS|pg|| nt|papa hall: I så fall var Nords pass beundransvärt modigt|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAJ4HQT74DJ32CAQJ,SQ93HJ96D965C5432,ST872H3DAK874CT98,SK65HAK852DQTCK76|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|henryb: why not 1NT?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|fred: What do you think Ringset will bid after 1@D-1@S?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: 2@H may seem normal, but I am sure there are people out there who would Pass (and maybe a few who would bid 1NT)|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s dont play support x it seems|pg|| nt|roswolf: but 3@D by north looks obvious|pg|| nt|fred: 5-card 2-level overcalls are often frowned upon, but 2@H overcall different from 2-level overcall in minor|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I wonder why Boye didn't open 1NT|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|fred: 6-card suit desirable for 3NT purposes when you overcall in a minor|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|henryb: 3N N-S is tough to beat|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|fred: if not 1NT, then why not 1@C? - reasonable conclusion would be NS are using strong club system|pg|| nt|henryb: particularly after this lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: people ask why Boye opened 1 @d - a lead-prohibiting thing? |pg|| nt|skjaeran: But they don't|pg|| pc|h3|nt|skjaeran: Might be, but he's in range for 1NT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|fred: This will be a big result for Flekkefjord|pg|| nt|jbgood: he usually has his reasons:)|pg|| nt|fred: he doesn't have to lose a diamond trick, but most likely he will|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|fred: the @DQ would drop if he plays @DAK but the blockage that resulted would be a problem|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|roswolf: this contract is now very favorite to make|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|skjaeran: He'll lead a @D to A, @C finess and let the @DJ ride|pg|| nt|fred: but it is looking like he won't need the diamonds at all|pg|| nt|roswolf: hot favourite|pg|| nt|jbgood: a great result for Brogeland - guess his @d opening was the winner:)|pg|| nt|henryb: I think he will cash the @sJ, play a @d, take the @c finesse and play a high heart,|pg|| nt|fred: Ringset might well have ducked the opening lead - from his point of view his partner would normally have J10x (or J10xx)|pg|| nt|fred: not that this would have helped|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: Tonje - Boye's wife - thinks that Boye downgraded his hand and did open a leadprohibiting @d:))|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg|| nt|fred: suspect she is right since I doubt he miscounted his points, but you don't see top players downgrade very much these days|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| nt|fred: upgrading much much more common|pg|| nt|henryb: I am ashamed of him. He did not claim the beer card|pg|| nt|jbgood: particularly by Boye:)|pg|| nt|fred: yes Boye is not exactly shy is the bidding :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAJ4HQT74DJ32CAQJ,SQ93HJ96D965C5432,ST872H3DAK874CT98,SK65HAK852DQTCK76|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Inte ens i zonen kommer man väl i utgång |pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|johnp: 2@s kan vel ikke passes ned?|pg|| mb|3C|nt|kskov: jo, det viser 4@s og en 5+ minor og er ikke krav|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Bra system|pg|| nt|kskov: mange i Norge bruker denne varianten, effektiv til tider|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|nt|papa hall: Obehagligt när @D 10 trillar. Nu har man ett val|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S3HKJT873DQ94CKJ6,SJ9852HA2DJT53C32,SA64H4DAK876CQ875,SKQT7HQ965D2CAT94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|roswolf: another @D partscore and in the other room it looks like they under-competed|pg|| nt|henryb: The beer card is the @d7|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|henryb: If you win the last trick with a noon-trump @d7, all the other players at the table owe you a beer|pg|| nt|fred: Brogeland had interesting rebid problem here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: at the other table the player in his position chose 2@H and later had a chance to support diamonds|pg|| pc|sK|nt|roswolf: i find east's failure to show his spade support very suprising|pg|| nt|fred: Note that Boye had good reason to believe his partner was very short in hearts|pg|| nt|fred: he knew his partner had at least 9 cards in the minors|pg|| nt|fred: plus probably some spade length due to the opponents lack of bidding a lot in that suit|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And probably 3 @S's too|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|fred: turns out that 4@H, although an underdog to make, is playable with the NS cards|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|fred: I also like to play a style in which East can bid 2@S on a hand like this without suggesting significant extra values|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree fred|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Me too, I'd probably bid 2@s over 2@c|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|roswolf: agree|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|henryb: Now 1 down|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S3HKJT873DQ94CKJ6,SJ9852HA2DJT53C32,SA64H4DAK876CQ875,SKQT7HQ965D2CAT94|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|papa hall: Nu blir det problem. NS har spelat bra utom i @H :) Se bricka 2 och 3 :))|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kskov: klarer nok å stoppe i 2@h nå etter opl X|pg|| nt|kskov: Det blir ikke så fristende for Lindquist å invitere med 3@h tror jeg|pg|| mb|2H|nt|papa hall: Hade du bjudit 2@H med de korten?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kskov: tja, odds for at makker er kort i @h, så jeg tror det. Har mer sans for denne sekvensen, 3@d liker jeg|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|nt|papa hall: Jag hade nog litat mer på mina kort och partnerns budgivning. Singelton i mtståndarnas färg. Bra 6-kortsfärg. 3 honnörer i partnerns färger|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h7|nt|kskov: ja, det er helt i grenseland. men oddsen for kort @h hos makker er veldig stor, kan neste prikke han inn med 3-1-5-4 fordeling|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|papa hall: I så fall får man bjuda högt i @D|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dA|nt|kskov: ja, men det er en esseløs hånd, det er også en negativ faktor|pg|| nt|papa hall: jo|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQ6HA4DAQ985CJ732,S954HKQT732DCT865,SAKJT3HJ8DJT64CA4,S872H965DK732CKQ9|sv|e|nt|fred: where would you like to play with these NS cards? If you make 3NT you also make 6@D (or 6@S or 6NT)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: i am a result merchant 6NT|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I'd prefer 6@d any day|pg|| nt|henryb: 5@d or 6NT|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|fred: so 3NT is one contract that you would like to avoid, but with both players having balanced hands and with only 27 combined HCP, it would be hard to avoid for many pairs|pg|| nt|skjaeran: At IMP's, that is|pg|| mb|3H|mb|d|nt|fred: at the other table the auction started the same way, but South bid 3NT where Brogeland bid 3@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@c now might get them there - but may not be right|pg|| nt|henryb: with both players having doubleton hearts, perhaps one should not play 3N|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: in the other room south bid 3nt over 3@D and that understandably ended the auction |pg|| nt|skjaeran: Do they play Manco? XX showin 2-3 small|pg|| nt|fred: I think that getting to 5@D or 4@S has a lot of upside|pg|| nt|jbgood: wonder what the xx meant:)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|fred: since 3NT at the other table not at all unlikely|pg|| mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Manco it is|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: boye's bid is better and might get them to the slam|pg|| nt|fred: at least you get a plus for sure in those contracts|pg|| pc|h5|nt|roswolf: wrong prediction again|pg|| nt|skjaeran: brb|pg|| nt|henryb: I think this was well bid by N-S|pg|| pc|h4|nt|fred: agreee - they deserve to win a swing|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|fred: unlucky for them that the @DK is onside|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jbgood: unfortunately when west has good hearts the diamond finesse is likely on:)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|fred: Russia's Alex Petrunin is in the audience and he correctly points out that a careless declarer might go down in 4@S after a diamond opening lead|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: guess N could have played a few rounds of spades|pg|| nt|fred: looks natural to win the Ace as the diamond lead is likely to be a singleton|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm that is an interesting thought|pg|| nt|fred: but you can afford to lose a diamond ruff (as long as it is not your @DA that is ruffed!)|pg|| nt|jbgood: right Fred|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQ6HA4DAQ985CJ732,S954HKQT732DCT865,SAKJT3HJ8DJT64CA4,S872H965DK732CKQ9|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Det här är 5:e kontraktet i rad på 3-tricksnivån, men nu gäller det i alla fall en utgång|pg|| pc|hK|nt|johnp: Han kommer nok til å holde pusten når @d-finessen prøves:)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kskov: hehe, men det står slem her|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|johnp: men så er det jo BBO - singel K bak?|pg|| nt|papa hall: Han önskar nog han var i 6@D nu....går inte lika många bet om masken spricker|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|johnp: puh:)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|kskov: tror han ville få forklaringsproblemer overfor lagkamerane viss han hadde spilt på det :-)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAT854HADQ432CA54,S2HKQJ7654DJ5CK62,SK963H8DKT97CJT93,SQJ7HT932DA86CQ87|sv|b|nt|fred: Alex is one of the few players in the world who I have never had a good result against - I am sure if I was the declarer on the last hand and if he was East that I would get a ...|pg|| nt|fred: diamond lead :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@H was a bit too high in the other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3H|nt|fred: especially given that 4@S might have failed|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Yes, 4@S was in jeopardy too|pg|| nt|henryb: you can assure a good result on the actual layout by bidding 6@d|pg|| nt|fred: With West preempting, at first glance it is natural to play East for the @DJ|pg|| nt|fred: I like Leffald's 3@H versus the 2@H that was bid at the other table|pg|| nt|roswolf: what should north bid ?4@S?|pg|| mb|4S|nt|henryb: but after a @h lead you draw two trumps and run the @cJ|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|fred: I think I would bid only 3@S with the North hand|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 8 losers, but good intermediates in the minors - I'd bid 4.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|henryb: West wins and has to return a club. you strip clubs and exit a trump and east has to lead @d or concede a sluff-ruff|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|jbgood: must admit I agree with you Harald|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|fred: Brogeland has displayed excellent technique as declarer during the past couple of days - this hand is an easy one for him|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|henryb: making it easy|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Dølle didn't like his partner to be endplayed|pg|| nt|roswolf: INDEED|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAT854HADQ432CA54,S2HKQJ7654DJ5CK62,SK963H8DKT97CJT93,SQJ7HT932DA86CQ87|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|papa hall: 6 @H räckte inte för ett bud, så nu har Den Store Kortgivaren gett honom 7|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4H|nt|kskov: 4@s står vel på å finne @d knekt|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5H|nt|johnp: ja, og det er vel lett å gjøre feil|pg|| nt|kskov: 5@h koster 800, så det er ingen god plan....|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|papa hall: 4 försvarsstick är lätt. Det 5:e desto svårare|pg|| nt|johnp: mot en makker som har passet ville jeg nok meldt 3@h|pg|| nt|papa hall: utan @C ut|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|papa hall: Men det gick bra|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|johnp: kan vel ikke bli annet enn -800|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|nt|papa hall: Om Syd går upp med @SA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kskov: nei, det blir tungt å unngå|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|papa hall: När bordet kommer in på @DA kan han spela @SQ och saka en @D. och nästa gång på @SJ saka n @C|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| nt|johnp: ja, det hadde vel fungert hvis @s10 hadde vært i N|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKQ72HA92D75CAJ52,SJT953HT75D9863C9,SA8HQJ643DAQ4CKQT,S64HK8DKJT2C87643|sv|o|mb|1N|nt|roswolf: this is a bidding test for n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: upgrading now Boye:)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I wld not|pg|| nt|henryb: get to something by North?|pg|| nt|jbgood: may be the bear card:) |pg|| nt|skjaeran: But only a doubleton - hard to make;)|pg|| nt|fred: Slam in hearts (and especially) notrump attractive if North is declarer|pg|| nt|fred: that is not going to be easy to arrange now :)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: After 1NT i guess Knut Erik will drive to slam.|pg|| nt|henryb: tough to reach now. |pg|| mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: even now west seems to have a clearcut @s lead - 6 nt seems like a nice option|pg|| nt|henryb: a triumph for Sabine's leading methods|pg|| nt|jbgood: right:))|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed @D needed to break it|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Or my partners, who nearly always lead @D vs NT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|henryb: Sabine believes in 4 card suits rather than 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKQ72HA92D75CAJ52,SJT953HT75D9863C9,SA8HQJ643DAQ4CKQT,S64HK8DKJT2C87643|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Allt var Västs fel som hade så dålig @S (2) att Syd lätt kunde läsa utspelet|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Det här är en typisk 50%-ig slam|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kskov: 1@d er overføring til @h, og 2@d er utgangskrav|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|johnp: de har sørget for å få kontrakten på feil hand, så @d ut vil bete|pg|| nt|kskov: problem med @d ut ja, men på N er den vel mer en 50%, han er avhengig av å løse @h eren med 1 taper|pg|| nt|johnp: altså i @h-kontrakt - 6NT er jo safe|pg|| nt|papa hall: John har lärt sig att alla slammar är 50%|pg|| nt|kskov: 6 NT er gull ja|pg|| nt|johnp: hehe - ja, det glemte jeg i fatren:)|pg|| nt|johnp: Andreas mener at alle slemmer er 50% - enten står de, eller så står de ikke:)|pg|| nt|kskov: en slem som står er altså en god slem :-)|pg|| nt|papa hall: Det vet alla. |pg|| nt|papa hall: Lagkamraterna brukar sällan skälla för att man bjudit en slam som går hem|pg|| nt|kskov: tror nok at det blir @s-utspill hvis de kommer i 6@h|pg|| nt|johnp: da står den|pg|| mb|p|nt|kskov: ja, eller kanskje single @c ut, @d som beter er vel tredjevalget|pg|| mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|papa hall: Mot 5 blir det garanterat @C ut|pg|| nt|johnp: sviktet nervene nå?|pg|| nt|papa hall: Trodde jag|pg|| nt|kskov: @c ut beter også 6@h selvfølgelig|pg|| nt|papa hall: Om partnern har 2 ess, vilket är troligt, måste man väl spela ut sin singelton|pg|| pc|sA|nt|johnp: Kennet, den vedder jeg imot på|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|kskov: skjønner godt at du gjør det, en grov feilanalyse, eller mangel på analyse fra meg|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|johnp: vi har holdt på lenge:)|pg|| nt|kskov: ja, ikke bare spillerne som er slitne|pg|| nt|johnp: enig|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ75HQ72DAQ963CT4,S9HAJ863DK872C932,SAKT6432HKT954DCK,SJ8HDJT54CAQJ8765|sv|n|nt|jbgood: boye's upgrade (that nobody liked) won the board:)|pg|| nt|fred: never a dull moment :)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|roswolf: well only 22 imps in question on the lead|pg|| nt|henryb: I feel sure that there are more freaks (6-5 or 7-4 or 8 card suits) than there should be|pg|| nt|fred: Ljung has probably never had this particular bidding problem before :)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Have you, Fred?|pg|| nt|jbgood: anything wrong with 4 spades?|pg|| nt|fred: no but where i come from you don't see quite as many 2@H openings as you do in Norway :)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: No, that's what Erik Eide chose at the other table.|pg|| nt|fred: what is the prototypical hand for 4@S in this position?|pg|| nt|fred: 8 solid and a King maybe?|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Something like that|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Or only 7 and another king/ace|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|henryb: It does not seem obvious to make 5@s to me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: diamond was led at the other table|pg|| pc|cA|nt|fred: that simplified matters :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And later raised @HA and took a ruff.|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess you ruff the second club, draw 2 trumps ending in dummy and play a @h to the 9|pg|| nt|fred: right|pg|| nt|roswolf: up|pg|| nt|fred: I am a little surprised Lerfald did not raise to 5@C but perhaps I don't understand their system|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQ75HQ72DAQ963CT4,S9HAJ863DK872C932,SAKT6432HKT954DCK,SJ8HDJT54CAQJ8765|sv|n|mb|2H|nt|papa hall: 7510 tar ofta fram det värsta i en bridgespelare|pg|| nt|kskov: det har vært mye spreke fordelinger i denne turnering, nok et eksempel på det i Nord nå|pg|| nt|papa hall: Och öppnas det före i en av färgerna ökar adrenalinet|pg|| mb|4S|mb|4N|mb|5S|nt|papa hall: Inte är det väl en 2-färgshand?|pg|| nt|kskov: 2@h viser nok en minor også, siden Ø melder 4 NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|papa hall: Ok|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|johnp: Jeg tror nok han klarer å behandle @h riktig |pg|| nt|papa hall: Ja, så lång har dagen inte varit|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|kskov: ja, blir som en åpen bok nå. med @d ut blir det ennå lettere|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|johnp: der forsvant det en taper|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|nt|kskov: får vi se 2,3,4 i hjerter nå?|pg|| nt|papa hall: Och där kom en tillbaka|pg|| nt|johnp: ja, det er sent på dagen|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJT5H52DA964CT962,S74HAKT9DQT532C75,SAK932H73D8CAK843,SQ86HQJ864DKJ7CQJ|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|henryb: I have to go shopping, so see you all tomorrow|pg|| nt|fred: 4@S a nice contract for NS here - given the trump layout you would have to guess clubs in order to make it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: bye henry thanks for joining us|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Bye Henry|pg|| nt|fred: always a pleasure to hear your insights|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: bye|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice bid by Ljung - his hand does have potential|pg|| nt|henryb: my pleasure|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|nt|skjaeran: At other table, 1@S-2@H-2@s|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 2@H either nat 2/1 or wk raise (3-7/8)|pg|| nt|fred: Agree - once you get a raise I think it is clear to bid 4@S on the North hand|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| nt|fred: might be normal to misguess clubs (restricted choice applies)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes losing tactics at teams vul to pass|pg|| nt|fred: but players tend to lead honestly in this situation|pg|| nt|jbgood: on the other hand nobody entered the bidding - so clubs likely to be 2-2?|pg|| nt|fred: not clear Lefald would play @C7 from @CJ75 (although 2nd and 4th through declarer quite common in much of the world)|pg|| nt|fred: and maybe he would not want to touch clubs at all with Jxx|pg|| nt|vugraph175: ljung asking ringseth about signals|pg|| pc|sA|nt|roswolf: yes indeed - i see no reason for clubs not to split|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: ahh what reply did he get?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|roswolf: the moment of truth|pg|| nt|vugraph175: 3d 5th, invite from honour|pg|| nt|roswolf: then he should get it right|pg|| nt|fred: sometimes defense is so hard - on some hands it is almost impossible to know that an honest signal can only help the declarer|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty sverre|pg|| pc|cK|nt|roswolf: well done|pg|| nt|fred: this is probably the one and only club layout from Lefald's point of view in which his signal costs|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJT5H52DA964CT962,S74HAKT9DQT532C75,SAK932H73D8CAK843,SQ86HQJ864DKJ7CQJ|sv|b|nt|kskov: Boye åpnet i 1NT på den forrige hånden i Syd. NS meldte seg opp i 6NT, og Lerfald spilte naturlig nok @s ut, 11 nye imp til Flekkefjord|pg|| nt|papa hall: NS hade en lång reläbudgivning till 6NT på bricka 11 i andra rummet :)|pg|| nt|johnp: hehe|pg|| nt|kskov: ja, en god gammeldags hopp og stopp....|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|johnp: undo?|pg|| nt|kskov: spill for 4@s her, så spørs det om de melder det|pg|| nt|papa hall: Svag @S-höjning?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Förmodligen 2-way|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| nt|johnp: jeg tror nok mange med meg hadde lagt 4@s i bordet hvis makker støttet til 2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|kskov: enig med deg der John Eldar, det er svært lite som skal til hos makker, synes det er rart det ikke kom en invitt nå|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|johnp: hva betydde 2@h??|pg|| nt|papa hall: Spelar vman med 2 under som 2-way kan det vara väldigt svagt|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST73HKT762DJ4C654,S82HAQ943DK95C987,SAJ9H8DAT72CAQJT2,SKQ654HJ5DQ863CK3|sv|o|nt|roswolf: yes ulucky 2 hands running|pg|| nt|roswolf: unlucky|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|skjaeran: I think he'd lead the 7 from J75 too, but not attractive shift.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Updated standings at: http://resultater.bk2000.org/main.aspx|pg|| pc|cA|nt|fred: this will play well despite the bad trump break and ugly dummy|pg|| pc|c3|nt|roswolf: yes |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|nt|skjaeran: Click on underscored round and match numbers to get more details.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d ace would have downed the contract|pg|| nt|roswolf: en passant - neat|pg|| nt|fred: play went too fast for me to do much analysis - i think it was actually an interesting hand|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST73HKT762DJ4C654,S82HAQ943DK95C987,SAJ9H8DAT72CAQJT2,SKQ654HJ5DQ863CK3|sv|o|nt|papa hall: 2 under är då antingen en väldigt svag höjning eller naturlig 2/1|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|johnp: Takk til bakspillerne, jeg trenger nok et kurs i juniorleiren|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|papa hall: Han funderar länge...sedan spelar han @CQ|pg|| nt|johnp: det er kun @d som er forbudt nå|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|kskov: vanskelig å unngå beit|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|dJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|papa hall: Bra försvar av Syd|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SKQJT84HTDT74CKQ9,SAH84DAJ963CJT875,S9753HKJ62DK82C42,S62HAQ9753DQ5CA63|sv|n|nt|skjaeran: Dølle is also a very fast player.|pg|| nt|roswolf: not clear where this will end up|pg|| nt|vugraph175: Dølle often plays fast as declarer :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: N had to go up with the diamond ace and return a club for Boye do disc his last diamond - went too quick|pg|| nt|roswolf: a pre-emptive 3@S or a boring pass|pg|| nt|roswolf: ?|pg|| nt|fred: 4@H is a reasonable spot for EW, but I don't think they can quite make it on this layout (not clear they can bid it either)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: I was expecting an (unusual) unusual 3NT balance by Lerfald, but this has worked better|pg|| mb|p|nt|fred: or maybe not given that 4@H could easily fail|pg|| nt|roswolf: a brave re-opening by west even though the auction does smell fishy!|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jbgood: 8-11 for Boye's 2@s - but nice crds:)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| nt|fred: Given Lerfald's first round Pass, a 2nd round 3NT cannot really be natural so it is logical to play that bid as takeout for the minors|pg|| nt|fred: (at least i think it is logical)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: It is Fred|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree fred:-))|pg|| nt|jbgood: you think right Fred - as usual:)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Ivar Berg at my side (teammate of Dølle) also wonders why not 3NT|pg|| nt|fred: GIB says he can make this but GIB gets to look at all the cards|pg|| nt|fred: not sure if it is realistic|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|fred: heart to the queen then spade ruff is a good start|pg|| nt|roswolf: followed by a small @D perhaps|pg|| nt|fred: but then maybe low diamond is necessary and that may not be realistic|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|roswolf: hmm chances|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s8|pc|c7|nt|fred: well done - especially since he could not see all the cards!|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hJ|nt|fred: played like he could|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|jbgood: as Svilen Trendafilov points out - 4@c sh to quite a few be some Michel's variation with 5+ clubs and 5+ hearts:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: very well played|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SKQJT84HTDT74CKQ9,SAH84DAJ963CJT875,S9753HKJ62DK82C42,S62HAQ9753DQ5CA63|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|3C|nt|johnp: Københavner?|pg|| nt|papa hall: I det andra rummet hade man inte lika bra system på bricka 13. Man kunde därför inte visa att höjningen i @S var dålig. Så det blev +10 IMP|pg|| nt|kskov: trodde Københavneren var havnet på museum :-)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|johnp: Ja, det var der vi møttes:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|papa hall: Är han inte chef här på BBO?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kskov: lol|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|johnp: det må vel være rett å si at motspillet fikk en trang start, men ikke unormalt utspill|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|nt|kskov: ja, best med @d ut, men i praksis umulig å finne|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SA97HKQ9DAQ7CKT93,SKQJ6HJ6DJ8CA8654,ST543HAT874DT3CQ7,S82H532DK96542CJ2|sv|e|nt|skjaeran: Last board coming up.|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Restart tomorrow at 10.00 CET, 9.00 London|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Thanks to Sverre Johan Aal, our great operator.|pg|| nt|vugraph175: thank you|pg|| mb|1C|nt|skjaeran: And to my fellow commentators: Geoffrey Wolfart, Fred Gitelman, Henry Bethe and Jon Sveindal.|pg|| nt|jbgood: last brd coming up and I should like to thank Kristiansand BK and Snorre Aalberg in particular for giving us this fine show! And the Nor Bridge Fed. with chief t.d. Harald Skjæran ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: for letting us have this live fun. |pg|| nt|roswolf: thanks sverre very well done on your first outing|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: tyharald|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|roswolf: well a typical practical agressive bid by boye|pg|| nt|fred: 3NT looks like a better contract than 4@H so well done by Brogeland for making life so easy for his partner|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: And the excellent operator - and not to mention the 1 bridge site giving us free access to live broadcasts - tu Fred Gitelman and Roland Wald for making this possible!|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes very well done BBO|pg|| nt|fred: Thanks also to several audience members who sent some good comments via chat. We often don't have time to respond to such chat messages, but your feedback is appreciated|pg|| nt|jbgood: and not to forget the spectators - the best there are! and finally the excellent commentators :) tu!!|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|fred: The Norwegian players have been playing consistently good and exciting bridge in this tournament|pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: yes some of the bridge has been world -class|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fred: great depth of talent in Norway, especially given the size of the country|pg|| nt|fred: thanks everyone - hope to see you again soon!|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes bye all|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all - see you tomorrow|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SA97HKQ9DAQ7CKT93,SKQJ6HJ6DJ8CA8654,ST543HAT874DT3CQ7,S82H532DK96542CJ2|sv|e|nt|johnp: Siste spill nå - takk til vår utmerkede operatør Espen som har vært veldig flink. Takk til Andreas, Kenneth og bakspillerne. Vi starter i morgen kl.10:00|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|papa hall: Väst i andra rummet fick spelföringen i 2@H att se vädigt lätt ut|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|papa hall: på bricka 14|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|papa hall: Tack för i kväll. Ha en koselig helg|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|johnp: bye all:)|pg|| nt|kskov: takk for ikveld|pg|| nt|papa hall: Bye|pg|| mc|10|pg||