vg|Norway Teams Championship,Match 1,I,1,32,Kristiansand BK,0,OBK Kloverknekt,0| rs|3NE+1,6DE-1,4DWx-4,4DWx-3,1NE+2,3NW=,3DW-1,1SN+3,4SW-1,2HS+2,3HN-2,3HN-1,4SS=,4SN-1,4HN=,4HS+1,4SE=,4SE=,1SE-3,1SE-2,5DS-1,3NS+1,2DE+1,3NN-2,3NN+4,6DS-1,4SE=,4SE=,6NW-1,3NW+2,4SN=,4SN+2,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,PASS,,PASS,,PASS,| pn|R M鎠el,Aarebrot,H M鎠el,C Arntzen,Naas Olsen,M.Homme,Fodstad,E.Homme|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SJ95HT862DKJ2CJT4,SQTHK4D8654CAKQ72,SK7643H75D73C9865,SA82HAQJ93DAQT9C3|sv|o|nt|eyhung: the player knew he had to behave...there was no reason to create another scene.|pg|| nt|lc: Here, E-W we have the Dutch pair that was in 2nd place entering this final session.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: We will see them next round too against Versace|pg|| nt|lc: Here, we have the Egyptian pair that finished 2nd 2 years in a row in this event - -but they weren't doing too well this year.|pg|| nt|lc: N-S were in 6th place starting the final session today.|pg|| nt|lc: I know the auction was 1NT by West, X for the majors -- |pg|| nt|lc: Nevermind -- new deals. Saved.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: we knew the source since noone can talk to you larry:)|pg|| nt|lc: Last round.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/qx93x is the link to the official web site. Simplified Chinese translated into English with schedule, results and photos |pg|| nt|dave_w: I think Yank should have risen with an honour there. No reason to beleive the defence is being so friendly as to lead away from the Jack - but underleading the ace was a real ...|pg|| nt|dave_w: possibility|pg|| nt|loganrun: is that the 'red' or the 'white' sox Shirley?|pg|| nt|sybarra: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting slam|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please explain Gerben|pg|| nt|dburn: It depends - if the first pass showed some values, then 2NT would be natural|pg|| nt|roswolf: well done by e/w who deserve a swing|pg|| nt|fabsayc: these teams are both a slight surprise to reach finals|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOLLLL|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I thought it was "HeDy", misspelt|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolol|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 欢迎大家回到太仓市|pg|| nt|sybarra: hello gerben and bill |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Der har vi dem|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 苂tepar 豓?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det hedder "ja" p norsk :-)|pg|| nt|vugraph103: de har ikke startet enda,,,,venter p start-skuddet|pg|| nt|jbgood: og de er ogs s og si Hom(m)e|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Vi mangler flag for NS, Jorunn|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Takk|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Risikoen her er at 豓 kommer for h鴍t|pg|| nt|Walddk4: P en god dag vinder man slem; det er ikke dagen|pg|| nt|jbgood: en treffende observasjon Roland:)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er Heimdal med Helness-Helgemo, Aa-Gr鴗heim og Furunes-Austberg ikke storfavoritter?|pg|| nt|johnp: 3 NT er jo en fin kontrakt, men 4-4 i @d kan kansje skape litt show?|pg|| nt|jbgood: hvis man er s uheldig finne rutertilpassen, er man fort for h鴜t i alle fall|pg|| mb|1N|nt|lc: OK -- new round. We will get new player names in a moment.|pg|| nt|lc: Zia always tells me that if he can't win, he likes to finish last. Let's see what he does about it here.|pg|| nt|lc: Grue is surely one of the best under-30 players in America today.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: a 5 or 7|pg|| nt|hedyg: aie!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: North hand is an unpleasant opener in Standard|pg|| nt|hedyg: cute board to start|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In case you don't understand: this means Welcome back to Taichang everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|eyhung: But ... he just couldn't control himself.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傛傠偟偔丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 擖椡 僗偑偁偭偨偺偱偟傚偆偐丅34俬俵俹嵎偵側偭偰偄傑偡偹丅|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good afternoon and welcome back to Budapest for the Hungarian Cup Final. Last segment of 16 boards now|pg|| nt|gerben42: nice try Hedy - commentating your own match :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 欢迎大家回到太仓市|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Taichang for the 3rd All-China Games. Day 2 of 6. Open/Ladies Teams now, Last match of 12 boards today|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: There we go -- easier now.|pg|| nt|eyhung: "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"|pg|| nt|lc: Are they facing Fleisher-Martel? Or did you not change the N-S names?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: names are right|pg|| nt|lc: This treatment of 2@H is becomming very popular in the tournament world. (And 2@S shows same shape with INVITATIONAL).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Give me some credit!!|pg|| nt|lc: Just checking.|pg|| nt|davidstern: I wish South would play rubber bridge with me|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that was meant as a question|pg|| nt|gerben42: I would open 1@D any day|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The 4-0 split won't harm declarer when 2 side suit finesses are on|pg|| nt|gracelin1: and Diamonds being 3-3|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, E-W from Italy -- have played some together -- not regular partnership. Versace is surely one of the world's top 10 players (in my opinion).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: woolsey stewart|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 戞侾儔僂儞僪偼偄傠偄傠偲偁傝傑偟偨偑丄7IMP嵎偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|timty: 愭傎偳偺嵟屻偲揰悢偑偩偄傇堘偄傑偡偑|pg|| nt|nakatani: 僗僐傾偼俿 俰俬俵 134-俲倕値倞倝侾侽侽丄34俬俵俹嵎偱偟偨|pg|| nt|gracelin1: EW will get to 3D here for a swing|pg|| nt|davidstern: With N/S playing precision this must be a big big hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3nt is definitely beatable here, but it takes an unusual first round duck in spades to assure the set|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Seems normal|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oh well, all academic|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Vugraph2: and he says sementa is better than him|pg|| nt|lc: N-S -- veteran long-time U.S partnership -- always dangerous -- have done well in this event.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Robson doesnt even consider 4s|pg|| nt|lc: Certainly a reasonable call by Zia -- too bad his hand actually resembles his bid.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Six months again, they let him play again.|pg|| nt|lc: A joke, of course (regarding 1@S).|pg|| nt|nakatani: 屻敿奐巒偱偡丅儌僯 乕傕姷傟偰偒傑偟偨偺偱 僗偼戝暆偵尭傞偼偢偱偡丅岊偛婜懸|pg|| nt|sybarra: hello to all @H|pg|| nt|sharkirl: Good afternoon from a very damp and miserable Ireland|pg|| nt|sybarra: its a bright and sunny morning in Wash. DC|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good afternoon and welcome back to Budapest for the Hungarian Cup Final. 4 segments of 16 boards, this is the third|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Michael MacDonagh, Ireland, Shirley Ybarra, Jon Wittes and Ed Shapiro, all from USA. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|othered1: Good morning from the sunny Pennsylvania hinterlands|pg|| nt|sharkirl: our Irish Open golf suspended due to inclement weather|pg|| nt|vugraph191: hi all|pg|| nt|jwit: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Our operator is dinnye. Good afternoon to you too|pg|| nt|sybarra: gn Jon |pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm in the other room e/w never made a bid which is suprising|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@D Multi, with a strong balanced hand included|pg|| nt|hedyg: the old question of do we open 1@c or 1@d? or do they play strong @c?|pg|| nt|gerben42: any pair playing standard or both precision|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Hedy Grey, Switzerland, Shirley Ybarra, Richie Reisig, Ed Shapiro and Robb Gordon, all from USA. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|gracelin1: I do open 1NT with a 5-card major sometime. But this is not it|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Agreed|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Vugraph2: Sementa Schermer discussing last round results|pg|| nt|eyhung: Looks like 4@S.|pg|| nt|lc: Over this kind of 3NT overcall, you should rarely correct. It usually shows a "running" suit -- as here.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Zia asks if thats the best lead you could find/|pg|| nt|eyhung: (Six months later)|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偼偄丅椆夝丅夋柺偑惓偟偗傟偽栤戣偁傝傑偣傫丅|pg|| nt|sybarra: *gm|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@H is to play opposite a weak 2 in hearts|pg|| nt|qing: in my humble opinion, perhaps too many boards are played in the preliminary swiss (6 rounds) which only eliminates less than half the field, and too few boards played in the KO ...|pg|| nt|qing: stage|pg|| nt|reisig: gm :))|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|sybarra: gm all :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: hello:) welcome back!|pg|| nt|robbg: Good morning from Arizona|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|reisig: Arizona?|pg|| nt|sybarra: very early morning for you Rob |pg|| nt|robbg: This looks like a wild auction!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: some scope to use suit preference signals on the d!K lead|pg|| pc|s3|nt|eyhung: Yes, this is known as "reverse flannery" due to the 5=4 major-suit lengths.|pg|| nt|lc: A big bid by WEst facing "weak."|pg|| nt|lc: Still, game has play -- but obviously will fail with the @CK wrong.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: tuff bid here for Martel|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: May have enuff defense to beat 4sp|pg|| nt|lc: But, since 4@S fails, that means 5@D ....|pg|| nt|lc: makes.|pg|| nt|lc: The E-W auction was effective in that it took away so much room from N-S.|pg|| nt|doty: At our vugraph tables this round we have...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Ed Shapiro and Henry Bethe, USA, John-Eldar Pedersen, Norway, and Arifin Halim, Indonesia. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|johnp: Hi all|pg|| nt|ahalim: Hi all, greetings from Jakarta|pg|| nt|vugraph191: hi all, I'm Adam Magyar here|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Gotta be an alert on 1NT, surely!|pg|| nt|hedyg: i doubt he showed values David:)|pg|| nt|gerben42: ELC is if you double and then bid a suit at the same level, like here|pg|| nt|gerben42: since you are too light for a reverse you have to open 1@D to rebid 2@C|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and there goes the heart fit ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: many just bid 1NT over pds 1@s bid nowadays|pg|| nt|cuttysark: West should be able to sign off in 3@H on this auction?|pg|| nt|robbg: indeed|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|lc: Typical looking 2/1 Natural GF auction.|pg|| nt|eyhung: (end of story)|pg|| nt|lc: Before Zero Tolerance, it seems ):|pg|| nt|doty: - Fleisher-Martel vs Bertens-Bakkeren|pg|| nt|lc: Interesting decision to overcall with stong NT with West hand -- I kind of like it, I think.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Cavendish filmimg a trailer for TV|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @D傪晧偗偵峴偔偲丄侾僟僂儞偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱偼丄傛傠偟偔偍偹偑偄偟傑偡丅|pg|| nt|gracelin1: will NS double the 3D runout|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2NT probably 22-24|pg|| nt|davidstern: North MAY pass here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: seems normal to pass with north hand, might stretch vulnerable|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Zheng may be tempted to blast now|pg|| nt|sybarra: since they all play precision, it is probably "standard" |pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@D was 0-7, the free 3@D should show 5-7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But Shirley, what about us poor kibitzers? |pg|| nt|sybarra: true |pg|| nt|dburn: East-West at the other table have done well to stay low here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You have no rebid problem after 1@H and any response|pg|| nt|gracelin1: NS might reach 4H after a 1H opening and Bergen raise|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i.e. west could have played highest diamond|pg|| nt|johnp: Om de kommer i @d-slem, s har jeg stor sympati for det|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er det n鴇vendigt at springe til 3@D?|pg|| pc|h9|nt|lc: Most tourn experts now use a method over 3@S as follows ...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: speaking of auctions that scream trump lead|pg|| nt|doty: - Levin-S.Weinstein vs Cohler-H.Weinstein|pg|| nt|doty: - Versace-Sementa vs Compton-Passell|pg|| nt|doty: To see who is where, click the black "Tables" button on the right side of the screen. Move |pg|| nt|doty: your mouse over any table to see the players seated, and click on a table to join it.|pg|| nt|lc: Yes, our Vugraph operator, Barry Goren's attempted humor.|pg|| nt|lc: Apparently, E-W don't use Support X's -- note East's raise on 3 cards.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: they cant all be winners:)|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: so cameraman has been in and out|pg|| nt|nakatani: 椉 乕儉妋擣偟偰偄傑偡丅偳偙偐偱擖椡 僗偑偁偭偨傛偆偱偡|pg|| nt|jwit: I like a takeout double much better than a 1H overcall with South hand|pg|| nt|sharkirl: I would bid 2nt with E hand|pg|| nt|jwit: Hi Shirley|pg|| nt|dave_w: Will be hard to find the club lead on this auction|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Who predicted the "blast"|pg|| nt|gerben42: then you do NOT show extra's (if you agreed it)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Or just pass 2NT perhaps|pg|| pc|hA|nt|lc: When @S (or @H) are clearly agreed as trump -- and 3NT not possible...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: asks if they play smith|pg|| nt|doty: Before we jump into this hand... At our vugraph tables this round we have...|pg|| nt|doty: - Fleisher-Martel vs Compton-Passell|pg|| nt|doty: - Levin-Weinstein vs Fantoni-Nunes|pg|| nt|lc: Of course, it can't thrill Bertens that his partner X-fered to his singleton.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Bertens didnt even consider pulling the dbl|pg|| nt|lc: If WEst didn't overcall 1NT, hard to get the hand off his chest. 2@C doesn't fell as descriptive to me as 1NT.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Sementa thinking|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俢偼嵟屻偺庤抜偲偟偰丄俠偲偐俽偲偐愭偵僾儗僀偟偰枴晅偗偡傞僾儗僀偑偁傞偐偳偆偐丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @H傪晧偗偰傕丄俆偮栚偺儖乕僓乕偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|ahalim: Hi Adam|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome back Adam|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, Adam|pg|| nt|johnp: And from the arctic area, Arifin:)|pg|| nt|othered1: What's the second double?|pg|| nt|ahalim: I would like that for a change :))|pg|| nt|johnp: I would use leb for bidding 3@d...|pg|| nt|gracelin1: the tempo calls for a double of 3D|pg|| nt|roswolf: i probably would|pg|| nt|qing: but it sounds an alarm when Ma could double the 3@C|pg|| nt|davidstern: 24+2 = 26 there are theorists who say it can never be right to play 2NT|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Or do we play transfers after the first natural bid is in NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: stay as low as possible|pg|| nt|gerben42: this must be why many pairs have this gadget where 1@D p 2@H shows 6 - 9 5@S 4@H or similar|pg|| nt|gerben42: good decision as 3@H would be Xd|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I guess so|pg|| pc|h4|nt|lc: South is making a game try by bidding out his pattern -- North will know he is facing short @H.|pg|| nt|doty: - Jacobs-Katz vs Altshuler-Gawrys|pg|| nt|davidstern: Pity the closed room N/S didnt know this theory|pg|| nt|fabsayc: play the @S3 and prove me right :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: "wrong sided" this time|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Roland - you earn a coconut|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Some know all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: how many players play tournaments in china, any idea?|pg|| nt|qing: Sun's rebidding of 2NT is somewhat surprising... what's the problem showing @S?|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|lc: To me, the East hand, now that I see it, looks like a Limit Raise.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僂僗偺擖椡偼戝曄偱偡偐傜丅|pg|| nt|fabsayc: not easy to beat, declarer will know most of card locations immediately|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have Chinese commentary in the closed room now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Martin? :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 另外3桌的对阵是:浙江vs河北/石化; 火车头vs陕西; 江西/黑龙江vs云南 look, it's easy|pg|| nt|roswolf: are screens in use?|pg|| nt|gracelin1: Guess South's pass is forcing|pg|| nt|loganrun: for 0-7 partner needs good cards|pg|| nt|bjacobs: There's a difference here - E/W have bid hearts, so ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: looks like Richie bidding in W|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Vugraph2: Versace asking about the 2d bid|pg|| nt|lc: They have 2 ways to cue-bid. (3NT is one way -- cue-bidding is the other). Bidding 4@S is therefore the weakest of the weak -- as here.|pg|| nt|lc: It is called "Serious 3NT."|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: and the raise to 3d. whether it promised 4|pg|| nt|lc: So, back to bridge, we have a marginal 61C contract available to E-W, but most will stop in game, I think.|pg|| nt|eyhung: yes, it's unfortunate for Martel that his partner had no room to show three "cover cards" (Cards that would be useful on offense in diamonds: the @SA, @DKQ)|pg|| nt|lc: Surprising that Bertens passed the X so calmly, yes.|pg|| nt|lc: Cohler might have bid 4@S here.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Attack against a small slam!|pg|| nt|gerben42: typical situation: (1@S) Dbl (p) 2@C (p) 2@D|pg|| nt|dburn: Some pairs (including one of my partnerships) play that after a strong club is overcalled at the one level, double shows 0-3 and pass 4-7 or so|pg|| nt|gerben42: on x Kxxx AQJxx Kx|pg|| nt|gerben42: since you also lose much if the auction goes 1@C - 1@S - (abstain)|pg|| nt|jbgood: selvf鴏gelig er Heimdal store favoritter - men som i Seriemesterskaper - ingen ting er over f鴕 den fete damen synger..|pg|| nt|Walddk4: De kommer m錽ke alligevel i slem, men 2@D er da krav og er ulimiteret|pg|| pc|s7|nt|lc: North likes that he has nothing wasted in @H. Unfortuantely, he has nothing anywhere else, either!|pg|| nt|lc: Without a trump lead, declarer might have @DAK and 8 cross-ruff tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: hard to lead a trump from @SQxx|pg|| nt|lc: In fact, it seems routine to take the first 10 if a trump is not led -- declarer will have no trouble with all the suits splitting.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Woolsey didnt know it was his lead. We all thought HE was thinking:)|pg|| nt|barnets: some players may have overcalled 2h with east hand although helps to have 6th|pg|| nt|lc: 6@C, make that.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Bakkeren is thinking, sweet, we're doubled at the 2-level with an 8-card trump fit! |pg|| nt|lc: So, West, hoping for 9 trumps, overcompetes.|pg|| nt|timty: 俶偼僷乕僩僫乕偑僆乕僾儞偟偰偄傞偺偵偍偲側偟偄偱偡偹|pg|| nt|ahalim: I agree that would be better|pg|| nt|roswolf: what do you think south's initial dbl of 2@S should mean?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3NT is almost always easier with say 13 opposite 12 rather than 23 opposite 2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 13-12 and you have communications between the hands|pg|| nt|davidstern: Indeed but also difficult to defend when so many high cards are hidden|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Oh well - I thought West might think "North is prepared for a heart lead ..."|pg|| nt|sybarra: skip my early morning comment, played by S (same side) |pg|| nt|dburn: good lead, this|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Director!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The 500 in the other room is probably not a disaster. EW should be able to score 400|pg|| nt|hedyg: that 8@d is a big card now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South is in 2@S in the other room|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 3@D b鴕 m錽ke spilles som enten 5-5 eller splinter med kl鴕tilpasning|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hvad spiller I?|pg|| nt|johnp: 2@d ville jo v鎟t RF, s du har et poeng Roland. Jeg syns hopp til 3@d b鴕 vise mer solid farve|pg|| pc|s5|nt|eyhung: "Serious" meaning that 3NT shows a stronger, more serious cue-bidding try than a direct cue-bid|pg|| nt|eyhung: One of my friends has a saying: "if I hold a high honor in every side suit, lead a trump". I'm not sure I completely believe in it, but his idea is looking good here.|pg|| nt|lc: West has shown @S and @C, East has to decide if he should move again.|pg|| nt|lc: Over a "slower" auction, we would have seen something like: 1@C - P - 1@S -2@D - 2@S ... -- now a chance for N-S to reach 5@D.|pg|| nt|davidstern: the @D(-8 are valuable assets|pg|| nt|davidstern: @D9-8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good play by Shen|pg|| nt|robbg: Cao will be amazed to find he has TWO @s losers!|pg|| nt|reisig: looks normal to me:)|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|lc: I'm not the worlds' best opening leader, but I can't say I've often run into dummy's SIX-card suit!|pg|| nt|lc: These pairs were in 3rd (EW) and 10th (NS) with 27 deals to go.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: semi alert is kind of a shrug .... welllll..... I coulda made another natural bid but I will make this one|pg|| nt|lc: So, will East lead the "unbid" suit, or the tempting @DJ.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偄偊偄偊丄俁俢偱偍傕傓傠偵丅|pg|| nt|robbg: I have a lot of sympathy for 1@s|pg|| nt|reisig: for me @s is automatic|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have NO sympathy for 6@h|pg|| nt|sybarra: well is not doubled |pg|| nt|robbg: I don't really understand 5@h either. You have wastage, the opps are in their 2nd best fit, etc|pg|| nt|reisig: 6@h has "firing squad" written all over it:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: of course N thought S has maximum 1@s|pg|| nt|othered1: In context splinter then going on is amazingly aggressive. Partner can look at his own hand.|pg|| nt|hedyg: not sure where S found the 5@h bid either|pg|| nt|reisig: Ed -- they can look ...but often don't see|pg|| nt|hedyg: the little he has in pds short suit|pg|| pc|h8|nt|lc: The only issue for declarer here, will be how to play the @S suit. We can see the 3-2 break, so nothing matters.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: even a fake dbltn lead in hearts prob doesnt work cause Versace didnt open a weak 2 so not likely to have 6|pg|| nt|lc: This deal illustrates perfectly the advantage of Supp X ----|pg|| nt|othered1: East thought he could count 10 rounded tricks, not a hopeless shot at all. May not pan out here, however.|pg|| nt|jwit: Looks like down one|pg|| nt|othered1: poorly placed (for declarer) 10 3 of clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Henry Bethe|pg|| nt|othered1: A nice gadget, if available|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Gerben has 12 cards|pg|| nt|gerben42: sorry :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: probably 3@C asks for 3 card support, a kind of new minor|pg|| nt|jbgood: jeg spiller 3 ru som 5-5 og god - men andre bruker (heldigvis) andre metoder:)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|lc: So, I expect declarer will cash the @DAK early -- the normal prcodeure when preparing to crossruff.|pg|| nt|lc: East would have X 1@S to show 3 @H.|pg|| nt|lc: Then, WEst would NOT bid 3@H.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: sadek asks to see the cards again|pg|| nt|hanayama: 丂@|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僲儞僶儖偺僒乕僪僴儞僪偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 倂偺俀俫偵僟僽儖偱嫞傝崌偄傪採埬偟偰偍偔偲傛偐偭偨偲巚偄傑偡偑丅|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, Henry!|pg|| nt|ahalim: Hi Henry|pg|| nt|henryb: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: How do you suggest that one should play the game trailing by 37 IMPs with 16 boards to go?|pg|| nt|johnp: Hi|pg|| nt|henryb: well|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Yes, North should have no chance|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Give him an extra diamond star|pg|| nt|henryb: wow. West bids a presumably nf 2N, and East with a nearly dead minimum accepts|pg|| nt|dburn: in fact, even 1NT might be too high on perfect defence|pg|| nt|gerben42: he learned that from South|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Opening bid opposite nearly an opening bid = game|pg|| pc|h7|nt|lc: Maybe not that sweet at these colors and with 1 HCP :)|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僆乕僾儞儖乕儉偼倂偺俁俶俿儊僀僪丅揰嵎偑弅傑傝傑偟偨丅|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Or not|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 11 tricks|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|nakatani: 憗偔傕攇棎傪巚傢偣傞僆乕僾儞儖乕儉偺僗僐傾偱偡|pg|| nt|loganrun: how can a heart lead be right - N must have them controlled?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: And I agree with Bill.|pg|| nt|sybarra: the spot card in N are wonderful!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are doubled in the other room ..... in 4@H!|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh wow!|pg|| pc|h2|nt|lc: he would defend against 2@S and def gets @CK, @CQ, @CA, 2 @H tricks, and eventually a @S for down 1.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: defense to hearts?|pg|| nt|qing: penalty oriented I'd say?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes that is the way i play it|pg|| nt|gracelin1: which shud tell North that their side own the hand and encourage North to double the runout|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No need to waste dummy's only entry when you have 2 club losers anyway (I know East could have AQ doubleton)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: East did well to stop bidding. Club lead beats 2@S|pg|| nt|bjacobs: They'd want to lead a club to beat 2@S by South|pg|| nt|sybarra: *cards|pg|| pc|h5|nt|lc: I would have overcalled 2@H, Barnet. Nice enough suit and hand. Prob would have kept N-S from bidding any more.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: notice he plays King to get count hopefully|pg|| nt|lc: With the friendly N-S lie, any E-W that do reach 6@C will make it (1370) and win tons on cross-IMPs. |pg|| nt|Walddk4: What's your philosophy generally speaking?|pg|| nt|henryb: in luck|pg|| nt|johnp: I would say normal bridge as always|pg|| nt|othered1: Play well and hope there are hands where you can take contrarian lines of play that aren't too off percentage.|pg|| nt|ahalim: Statistics has shown that 'shooting' does not help very much|pg|| nt|henryb: Generally, it depends on the opponents' style. If they are agressive, I tend to become even more conservative|pg|| nt|johnp: Agree, Henry|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And you are only in 2NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Just another dull flat board|pg|| pc|hT|nt|doty: At our vugraph tables this round we have...|pg|| nt|doty: - Altshuler-Gawrys vs Fleisher-Martel|pg|| nt|lc: Now, instead, he is in a hopeless 3@H.|pg|| nt|nakatani: 暯壐側僗 乕僩偺傛偆偱偡|pg|| nt|hanayama: 壴嶳偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僐儊儞僩偟偰傛傠偟偄偱偟傚偆偐丠|pg|| nt|johnp: Jon, du har mange med deg p den varianten..|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|eyhung: How likely would you estimate this to be a flat board?|pg|| nt|doty: - Zia-Robson vs Cheek-Grue|pg|| nt|eyhung: uh oh|pg|| nt|lc: Here, the way the auction accelerated, neither Fleisher nor Martel had a clear call.|pg|| nt|eyhung: True -- but it's a chance for some big impage in one direction or the other :)|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅傝傚偆偐偄丅|pg|| nt|sybarra: may get a trump lead now |pg|| nt|jwit: Fine as long as North doesn't play club 10|pg|| nt|sybarra: on the return to this trick |pg|| nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| nt|othered1: This auction certainly avoided a double|pg|| pc|hK|nt|eyhung: looks like an endplay coming up|pg|| nt|lc: Looking like "the other"|pg|| nt|gracelin1: another school plays the duble as showing a "weak" 2 raise. they bid 3S with a good "2S' raise|pg|| nt|hedyg: aie|pg|| nt|jbgood: uheldigvis fant de rutertilpassen - men det er vel fare for at de gj鴕 det samme 舙ent|pg|| pc|s2|nt|lc: He might cash the 2nd @D by leading up to it -- in case East started with a singleton.|pg|| nt|doty: - Rodwell-Hampson vs Brogeland-Del'Monte|pg|| nt|lc: Defe has easy 6 tricks. The 5 top tricks, then can promote an extra trump trick.|pg|| nt|henryb: If they are old fashioned I tend to push a little|pg|| nt|othered1: At other table, west took a pretty negative view, probably because 2@C would have forced too high.|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2 discards by E now|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Vugraph2: tosses a bunch of red cards on the table and claims |pg|| nt|lc: So, about Zia liking to finish last. Not true here -- because there is a big session award(s) for today's session -- so he will be fighting hard for it.|pg|| nt|lc: Is South in danger?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Martel shaking his headin disgust|pg|| nt|lc: It seems so.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Bertens says I got you|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: martel says sorry I was too greedy|pg|| nt|eyhung: Martel was clearly playing his partner for the sginleton|pg|| nt|lc: 620 for E-W will be huge huge huge. (especially with 400 avail the other way).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: need to win this|pg|| nt|lc: I don't think so.|pg|| nt|lc: If he ducks, and dec drives out @CK, def has 5 top tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: Def has 2@D set up, and 2 aces. @CK would be 5th trick.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: still 8 i guess|pg|| nt|lc: That's all right. Just as the players get tired, it is hard to do Vugraph and analysis without also getting worn out.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Is Delmonte taking a while before the duck?|pg|| nt|othered1: Might declarer have started with diamonds at trick 2, in case something good happened there?|pg|| nt|robbg: Well, that is unfortunate in a perverse way, as positive swing for Hubei is duplicated.|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|lc: However, North has more @H than the overcaller -- not a good thing.|pg|| nt|lc: However, this start is not that unusual. I expect it to start this exact way at many tables -- wouldn't be surprised, in fact, if 2@HX is the "mode."|pg|| nt|henryb: and hope|pg|| nt|hedyg: i wouldnt call it unfortunate..|pg|| pc|d5|nt|eyhung: I wonder how Bakkeren's Italian is.|pg|| nt|eyhung: ok, I guess he won instead of ducking.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: nahhhhh I am just being lazy|pg|| nt|eyhung: I was about to say, sometimes partner's defensive tempo can mark certain cards in his hand -- it's important to try to play without knowledge of that.|pg|| nt|lc: But on this deal, everyone would know where the @SA is (from auction, play), so there would be no ethical constraints on West had East ducked slowly.|pg|| nt|lc: But it is a good point -- that if your partner on def ducks an ace slowly, you are not entitled to later play him for it.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: I think the bellman knows where the Ace of spades is|pg|| nt|gracelin1: nothing can stop 3D here so a pick up of 6-7 imps for Shanghai|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The venue is the Taichang City Stadium in the Jiangsu province, hosting a total of 8 tournaments this week. It's 1.15 pm Tuesday local time now|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 10 tricks are likely|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @D10 was led against 2@S|pg|| pc|dT|nt|lc: And the cameraman that was there.|pg|| nt|nakatani: 傕偪傠傫偱偡丅偛棗偵側偭偰偄傞曽偱僐儊儞僩偵嶲壛偟偨偄曽偼巹傑偱楢棈偟偰偔偩偝偄丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僆乕僾儞儖乕儉偼俽偺2@h僆乕僾儞乮儊僕儍乕僘乯偑僶僢僋僼傽@僀儎乕偟偨傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|gracelin1: back to 9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sun is a little anxious now, but all is well that ends well|pg|| nt|hedyg: that was the easier 1|pg|| nt|jbgood: Dessverre er det noen som synes om melde fornuftig John|pg|| pc|dA|nt|lc: Very likely. Conceivably 620 at every table.|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|lc: Even though some writers (like Mike Lawrence) are big on 4-card overcallers, I shy away from them.|pg|| nt|lc: I want partner to expect 5 so he can make correct competitive decisions.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Law thing!|pg|| nt|lc: What Law?|pg|| nt|lc: Always risky to make such predictions, though :)|pg|| nt|eyhung: But that's our job. :)|pg|| nt|lc: At the local duplicate, I'd never make such a forecast.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: welllll the NT overcall|pg|| nt|lc: West might have tried running to 2NT (what a treat for East). Not that 2NT is a bargain.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Right, but you should at least consider whether the caddy knows before you play him for it.|pg|| nt|lc: Now, decl in danger of going down multiple tricks.|pg|| nt|othered1: -55 imps, might be a different story|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Vugraph2: Some Law Lawrence wrote a book about?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: getting there|pg|| nt|lc: Anyway, even though this is a battle of 2nd place against last place, the last place pair still has lots if interest in doing well ...|pg|| nt|lc: The session awards, sensibly are super-high for this last session.|pg|| nt|lc: So, trying to place high in the section gives the pairs that are out of contention plenty of incentive.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Kaminsky thinking|pg|| nt|lc: In fact, I think that if you win this Session, the owner of the pair gets $25,000 -- more than most pairs sold for.|pg|| nt|lc: Meanwhile, the E-W pair is fighting for huge $$ -- 6 figures if they do OK this session.|pg|| nt|jwit: 6 imp gain for NS|pg|| nt|gracelin1: and 6 imps to Guizhow|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahalim: but don't push too much|pg|| nt|qing: 5-4-2-2 is often suitable for suits, and sometimes slamish, say, here if Lu has one more @S and one less @D, slam might be on 1 of the 2 finesses|pg|| nt|fabsayc: normally 3@D here would be called new minor, when the bid is 2@C or 3@C it is usually called checkback, but works the same|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Vi f錼 se senere, de er startet med spil 15 og 16|pg|| pc|d6|nt|npcjpn: 俽偵俁 偑尒偊傞偺偱丄@C偖傜偄偼婜懸偱偒偦偆丅|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偙偐傜丄俤偺俁俠偵倂偼俁俶両偦偟偰丄偍彆偗偺俽儕乕僪丅丅丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 9IMP偱25揰嵎丅|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Liz's point about attacking is so right. For example, if you rule out the heart (as I think West should have), you can choose the safe spade or the attacking club|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Even if the club gives a trick, unlikely to be the crucial trick|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Very busy vugraph day. Estonia in 20 minutes, Norway in 1 hour and 20 minutes and Germany 30 minutes after |pg|| pc|dQ|nt|eyhung: I'm informed by a kibitzer that at another table, the auction started identically up to 2@H|pg|| nt|eyhung: but Rodwell went to 3@C with the North hand|pg|| nt|lc: Sure, overcalling 1NT with a side singleton is not "normal," but I think it will be the "expert choice."|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Italian under the screen as usual!!|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: And some dutch too!!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Jin Zhou from Singapore|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: Hi all :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed martin - i play similar methods|pg|| nt|qing: there are many interesting treatments over such a 2NT|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|npcjpn: @CQ|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偟偭偐傝偟偨僨傿僼僃儞僗偱偡丅丂@|pg|| nt|gracelin1: better ruff with DK|pg|| nt|dburn: but although this defence was a fraction less than perfect, it still ought to beat the contract a couple of tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: not best defense, just happy to beat the contract|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Vugraph2: second trump trick coming|pg|| pc|c7|nt|lc: Now, dec must duck this to avoid down 4.|pg|| pc|sT|nt|johnp: At this board, and if I was N, I was very close to raise to 5 @d...|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|d8|nt|lc: N-S here, Chip Martel-Marty Fleisher one this event a few years ago. They are not a regular partnership, though.|pg|| nt|gracelin1: if she ruffed Heart ealier instead of playing C, there are 10 trick. But she did well to ruff with DK to preserve the precious 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: N will be endplayed so -2 only|pg|| nt|hedyg: could N have doubled this?|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Even I could get this club guess right|pg|| nt|gerben42: depends on how strong 2@S was|pg|| nt|gracelin1: You are superman, Roland|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php for full schedule |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Ikke urimeligt at v鎟e i slem, og det kan nemt v鎟e et ligespil|pg|| mc|11|nt|lc: For our newer players -- the reason you cash the !AK early -- is so opps don't throw @D when you do your cross-ruffing later.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: trump lead was right despite qxx|pg|| nt|lc: Decl will finesse @H and can ruff back to his hand to finesse again.|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SJ95HT862DKJ2CJT4,SQTHK4D8654CAKQ72,SK7643H75D73C9865,SA82HAQJ93DAQT9C3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|mc|6|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAT2HAK5D87CT8542,SK6HQT32DKQJ9652C,SJ4HJ94DAT43CAKQJ,SQ98753H876DC9763|sv|n|nt|lc: In fact, I don't think I've ever seen 620 at every table in the local duplicate.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: the usual Italian flying under the screen even though nothing happened|pg|| nt|lc: So, +620 will win N-S lots of IMPs.|pg|| nt|barnets: none of the vugraph tables found trump lead not too surprisingly|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: all bid game?|pg|| nt|lc: What's Italian for, "we will win a lot of IMPs for this result?"|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: doesnt translate into Dutch|pg|| nt|eyhung: It does translate into profanity.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Joe Grue led a low spade on the third round -- an example of helping partner make the right play. It probably wasn't necessary, but it's a good habit.|pg|| nt|lc: Souht will prob X the @H opening coming from East.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙偺僴儞僪丄俽偑@S0-2,@h4傪帵偟偨偺偑晄 偱丄4-3偺4@H偵側偭偰偟傑偄傑偟偨丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偍偦傜偔僾僢僔儏偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|henryb: and as S you might pass 3@sX|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes not convincing but the contract made well done|pg|| nt|gerben42: 2NT was a bit rich here also|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not sure how much the 1NT response promised in the closed room, but 2NT seems like an overbid no matter what|pg|| nt|othered1: Anyone understand the 2NT bid at other table?|pg|| nt|gerben42: showed a max. non 1@C|pg|| nt|fabsayc: another common method is transfer rebids|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Like Wolff's 3@C (which I play)|pg|| nt|hedyg: they got less than they deserved|pg|| nt|robbg: Well the 5 IMP double turns into a 2 imp double|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Du skriver bare over|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, a marginal 4@H here for E-W -- that the field will surely reach.|pg|| nt|doty: At our vugraph tables this round we have...|pg|| nt|doty: - Rodwell-Hampson vs Levin-S.Weinstein|pg|| nt|doty: - Kaminski-Levit vs Bertens-Bakkeren|pg|| nt|doty: - Schermer-Chambers vs Martel-Fleisher|pg|| nt|doty: To see who is where, click the black "Tables" button on the right side of the screen. Move your mouse over any table to see the players seated, and click on a table to join it.|pg|| nt|lc: Declarer in 4@H has to lose the @SA and @DAK, so it is just a question of handling -- and dealing with the 4-1 trumps.|pg|| nt|barnets: 2 out of 3|pg|| nt|lc: Cheek-Grue play a stong @C system.|pg|| nt|lc: 1NT prob is 14-16.|pg|| nt|lc: Close enough.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙傟偼 僯俶俿偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俁俶俿偱俀僟僂儞偖傜偄偐側丅偙偺 乕僪偼丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Another profitable save for EW here|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: strong result for N/S in other room|pg|| nt|gerben42: and a desire to go down|pg|| nt|qing: some play transfers to gain a tempo, some play transfer to x+2 to gain tempo and know support|pg|| nt|robbg: Another ghoulie|pg|| nt|jbgood: heia Brann!|pg|| mb|p|nt|barnets: blanchard meckstroth played 3s|pg|| nt|lc: EW play strogn 1@C|pg|| nt|eyhung: the singleton @DK, as opposed to doubleton @DKQ. Then he'd get them down 2.|pg|| nt|lc: Typical "Equal Level Conversion" principle -- whereby you can X with a hand like South's and then convert @C to @D without promising extra values.|pg|| nt|dburn: Not sure - maybe 1NT was forcing, and 2NT the only permitted rebid|pg|| nt|sybarra: someone suggested the spot cards in N alone might have been worth a dbl |pg|| nt|gerben42: if it was 4 - 8 I'd hit it|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 6DE-1 er koden det betyder 6ru spillet af 豷t, 1 ned|pg|| nt|Walddk4: God morgen til K錼e Kristiansen fra Norge|pg|| nt|brann: Takk, hei alle sammen :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, over North's 1@S, I would pass with East, but I suspect a few takeout X's.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 12500 for 1st|pg|| nt|eyhung: I don't think 3@C promises 5, else East probably would have taken another call.|pg|| nt|lc: Oh yeah -- I think you are right, Barry.|pg|| nt|lc: Here, North will open 1NT at most tables. But, we know that this N-S play 1NT as 12-14, so Fleisher couldn't/|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Martel still looks rattled|pg|| nt|lc: Here, at some tables, WEst will open, and at others, North will open. |pg|| nt|lc: I expect 4@S from Versace.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 係枃僒億乕僩偺儕 僢僩儗僀僘偺傛偆偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僯侾俶偺岠壥偼丄偲偵偐偔俀儗儀儖偐傜僆億乕僱儞僩偵價僢僪偝偣傞丄偲偄偆偙偲偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙傟偼僀儞價僥乕僔儑儞丠偦傟偲傕僾儕僄儞僾僥傿僽丠|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Same as board 12 more or less|pg|| nt|loganrun: North is likely to have a source of tricks - which makes club lead a standout|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Do you all overcall 1@S?|pg|| nt|brann: :)|pg|| nt|johnp: Hei K錼e|pg|| mb|1C|nt|lc: So, what does West do next afte East will bid 2@H|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 2s|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: comp slow|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俤偼僗儔儉傕彮偟峫偊傑偡偐丠|pg|| nt|gracelin1: don't thk so, ruff 2H to eatablish at least the 5th H is a better line|pg|| nt|fabsayc: except this one is findable|pg|| nt|dave_w: I don't know that you can rule out the Heart lead. Would north bid the same way with AKQxxx Ax AQxx x? |pg|| nt|hedyg: doubleton KQ is not a + value|pg|| nt|gerben42: in Precision it's not outrageous to pass 1@H on West hand|pg|| nt|dburn: but if those are the methods, you might consider opening the East hand 1NT|pg|| nt|othered1: If a big club system, isn't 2NT usually used to distinguish among good hands with long majors?|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed transfers in this kind of sequence are becoming very popular|pg|| nt|hedyg: i think he was worth at least 2 points in spotcards|pg|| nt|gerben42: man in west, right?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Closed room: S 2@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: all men|pg|| nt|sybarra: we meant last hand and specifically the N hand |pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Usually a NEG X promises 4-4 in the majors, but as we see this is not a "negative X" but a conventional action showing @H.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Hello Larry. This looks like another one of those italian-style transfers. Apparently a lot of pairs are playing this in this event. What's your opinion of this treatment?|pg|| nt|lc: East's 2@H presumably means he would raise 1@H to 2@H -- so even though it is a "jump" it is not treated as such.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 4 hearts lead|pg|| nt|lc: Hard to shake off a disaster like that 1st board.|pg|| nt|lc: Having just gone for 500 can make one gun-shy. Not that 5@H is so attractive with West's shape.|pg|| nt|lc: Dec will hold up in @C, of course.|pg|| nt|lc: But, will that be good enough?|pg|| nt|lc: Yet, he didn't carry it through.|pg|| nt|timty: 偄偔偮棊偪偨偺偐偼偭偒傝偟側偄偱偡偑丒丒|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僾儕僄儞僾僥傿僽偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 4@s偵側傝偦偆丅|pg|| nt|fabsayc: no ready way off dummy then|pg|| nt|fabsayc: not me, like to have my bid when red|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South opened 1@H in the other room|pg|| nt|sybarra: 1 @H!! wow|pg|| nt|gerben42: transfer to @D - is what west deserved|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Spil 1 er rettet nu, wd Jorunn|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Hei folkens - nettverkstr鴅bel - 錺ent rom nede:(|pg|| mb|1S|nt|lc: Yes, Eugene -- X-fers on the 1-level are becomming quite popular -- and they seem effective.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偺傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|dave_w: opposite the 3D bidder with xx Qx JT9xxx Axx ....|pg|| nt|gerben42: not that it would work well with a Royal Flush in trumps in North though|pg|| nt|qing: well this vul overcall with this suit quality is for the brave only|pg|| nt|roswolf: no suit not good enough to compensate for the lack of values |pg|| nt|gerben42: how strong did West claim to be?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hei Harald|pg|| nt|brann: Hei TL :)|pg|| nt|johnp: Hei Harald|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Woolsey-Stewart have been partners for almost 10 years now -- ever since Stewart lost his previous partner, Steve Weinstein (now playing with Bobby LEvin).|pg|| nt|lc: I would hate to be E-W and let opps buy it in 2@S.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: claim 3|pg|| nt|lc: But you must.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙偺僟僽儖偼@s俁枃埲壓偱偟傚偆偐丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俢俁偺慖戰偼丄偪傚偭偲愊嬌揑側儕乕僪偱偡偑丄旝柇側慖戰丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僷僢僔僽偵慖戰偡傞側傜偽丄俠俀丄俈丅丂@傾 僢僋偡傞側傜偽丄偄偭偦俽俲丄俫俲乮俰乯偑偄偄偐傕丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傢偨偟偼丄俠俀偐傜偺僷僢僔僽慖戰偐傜僗 乕僩偟偨偄偙偺俽偺僴儞僪丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偱偡偹丅@C儕乕僪偵堦昜丅|pg|| nt|othered1: In the last set, this pair made many close decisions correctly. Continuing into this set, it seems.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Maybe, but when do you expect to cash your heart now?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@C will make Shi excited|pg|| nt|dburn: at any rate, East appears to be allowed to bid a two-card club suit at this table|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How did you find my 6-card suit, partner?|pg|| nt|henryb: So excited he passed!|pg|| nt|dburn: which ought to lead to a more playable spot|pg|| nt|gerben42: remember East limited to 15|pg|| nt|hedyg: wow didnt even raise|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Can't one open 1NT with the East hand?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det er sikkert Anne-Lene der hiver i de forkerte ledninger :-)|pg|| nt|jbgood: God morgen Harald:)|pg|| nt|brann: :))|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Vet ikke hva problemet skyldes - jeg har god forbindelse n鍇pg|| mb|2H|nt|eyhung: With partner a passed hand, it's difficult for Versace to concieve of many North hands that make a slam. Unfortunately, this appears to be one of them.|pg|| nt|lc: I'd expect 5@H to go down at least 500 opp a typical preempt, so no great reason to bid it with West's hand.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: sorry|pg|| nt|johnp: Last board - My information would be based on that my P did not use leb...|pg|| nt|fabsayc: my choice 4@H second turn with east hand|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Or is it too strong?|pg|| nt|othered1: Would you raise, if it could be xx?|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: I think 3@H is about right.|pg|| nt|lc: So, Strong 1@C, Weak 1@D 0-7, Natural 1@H, prob forcing 1 round.|pg|| nt|lc: So here, N-S have a choice of 3NT or 4@S -- both of which will make.|pg|| nt|lc: Almost everyone in the field plays 2/1 GF, so North's 2NT here is 100% forcing.|pg|| nt|lc: South has a balanced hand, but he is thinking, so maybe not obvious 3NT.|pg|| nt|lc: A lot depends on if he has promised the 6th @S yet. Many use 2@S as a "default" -- or "noise" -- not promising 6.|pg|| nt|lc: 31 HCP N-S -- but not fit, so not a slam you would want to reach.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Although you have to get the diamonds right |pg|| nt|lc: You got me, Barry --|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: tired:)|pg|| nt|lc: He would have followed it through had East passed.|pg|| nt|eyhung: can beat with two trump promos?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: they keep announcing the BBQ and I am hungry:)|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偝傜傝偲係俽丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僺儞億僀儞僩偱偟傚偆丅僗儔儉偼丅|pg|| nt|othered1: NS probably were headed to 3NT. Lead directing opener may change that. |pg|| nt|Walddk2: West can't really do anything|pg|| nt|gerben42: NV too strong I fear|pg|| nt|dburn: Well now...|pg|| nt|cuttysark: It is downgradable?|pg|| nt|gerben42: will raise to 3@C now|pg|| nt|dburn: ...South should understand 2@H, but will she?|pg|| nt|hedyg: only loses 2@ds|pg|| mb|2S|nt|lc: Yet another headache for me -- something new to learn.|pg|| nt|lc: The desired effect of the X-fers is to put the overcall on lead -- as here.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: you are getting old Larry!!! you must be like a year older than me by now|pg|| nt|lc: You know you are getting old when you frown upon having to learn new methods.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: very true|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Kaminsky fingering J1h|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: @h|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 堜栰崱憅偺僐儞儀儞僔儑儞僇乕僪偵傛傟偽丄俇枃僗乕僣偺僀儞價僥乕僔儑儞偼俀俶俿偐傜偼偠傔傞傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傾僫乕偺係枃偐傜偺儕乕僪偼丄俁俶偵偼岲傑偟偔側偄偙偲偑懡偄傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偦偆偼巚偄傑偣傫偑丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俆枃偁傞偲偐側傜丄偩偄傇 儍儞僗偑堘偆偱偟傚偆偑丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Wu tried 4@H on her second turn in the closed room, but still not enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: just what S wanted to hear|pg|| nt|roswolf: and as terence rees would say - why tip opps about the distribution when you are unlikely to play the contract|pg|| nt|qing: if Sun's intention is to explore slam, the start of x may not be the best, and the fact that now he's at 3 level, yet have not shown support does not help either|pg|| nt|fabsayc: at matchpoints i try 3NT now with west hand, at imps i think must bid 4h to set trumps for sure|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes he may be lucky and have to settle for game only|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes very lucky|pg|| nt|brann: 豷t f鴏er seg ikke spesiellt komfortabel med det som n skjer....|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, if 2@S could have been some hand such as @SQJ9xx @Hxx @Dxx @CAKJx (because 3@C would have shown extra), South has to bid 3@S now to show that he really has 6@S.|pg|| nt|lc: Salm depends, on the @D -- |pg|| nt|othered1: Is 2@h systemic? Or have things loosened up considerably?|pg|| nt|vugraph191: they can en weak 2's on a 5-card suit als|pg|| nt|ahalim: and does it promise a minor ?|pg|| nt|dburn: She did - good|pg|| nt|henryb: I would bid 3@c with Shi's hand|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Any trump suit where you have only 2 losers must be acceptable|pg|| nt|gerben42: but you normally have 3 losers |pg|| nt|hedyg: hmmm..you cant open 1 or 2 but you can bid 3? vulnerable!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: South's tactics are not my cup of cappucino|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Anyone for a 2@H opening?|pg|| nt|gerben42: mine neither|pg|| nt|gerben42: count me in for 2@H opening|pg|| nt|johnp: 4@d er en bra stamp - ser ut som -3|pg|| mb|2N|nt|lc: Say West eventually clears @C ...|pg|| nt|lc: Then, dec knocks out @DA.|pg|| nt|lc: So, North can get 2 overrufs of @D, but South has only 1 entry.|pg|| nt|lc: How about trump plays by def?|pg|| nt|eyhung: But he's already on lead. So @DK, then @D overruff, spade to ace, diamond overruf?|pg|| nt|lc: Then, hold up appropriately in black suits and hope to beat it with 4 @D tricks and 2 aces?|pg|| nt|lc: Hard to see for sure if this will make or not.|pg|| nt|nakatani: 偄傛偄傛屻敿偺僗 乕僩偱偡|pg|| nt|ahalim: some sort of Muiderberg ?|pg|| nt|gerben42: me too|pg|| nt|hedyg: wow|pg|| nt|othered1: I'd bid 3@c, too|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes me too|pg|| nt|gerben42: better than this anyway|pg|| nt|cuttysark: I play 5-9, but would still open this 2@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: i will get my bid in early and then stay quiet|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The hand hits a seam between 1@H and 2@H, and it is one of the unanswered questions of life: "are you allowed to pass with an in-between hand?"|pg|| nt|gerben42: red vs white I play 5++++ to 9++++|pg|| nt|hedyg: good time to play trump|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Feels like trump leads (at any point) should beat this.|pg|| nt|lc: I like Compton's X. You can't sit there and get pushed around -- especially on partscore deals. Enter early if you can.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 嵟埆偺儕乕僪偱偡偑丄偦傟偱傕偱偒偦偆偵側偄丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僆億乕僱儞僩偺價僢僪僗儁僀僗傪扗偭偰丄偦偟偰 儍儞僗傪捦傓丄偲偄偆 僯侾俶偺巚憐偱偡丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 僴乕僩僴乕僩怳崬傒偱傕傑偩儊乕僋偟傑偣傫偹|pg|| nt|hanayama: 側偐側偐丄偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僯侾俶僆乕僾儞偺惉岟偺僔乕僋僄儞僗偺堦偮偱偡丅丂@|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 崱擔偼惉岟椺偑懡偄傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅丂@偦偆偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱傕丄俶俽偲偟偰傕丄偙偺僆乕僋僔儑儞偱偼丄摉慠偺係俽價僢僪偲側傝傑偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僶儖偱偡偟丄嵶偐側憡択偼弌棃側偄帪偼丄 儍儞僗偑偁傝偦偆側傜丄愗傝偺傛偄僎乕儉傊丄偱偡丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僼儕乕儔儞偱傕丄僗僩儘儞僌俶俿偐傜丄@S俇枃偺僀儞價僥乕僔儑儞偱4@S偵側傝偦偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偺僔乕僋僄儞僗偼偁傝偦偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僨傿僋儗傾儔乕偺俽偼丄儊僀僋 儍儞僗偺偁傞傾僫乕偺攝抲傪偄傠偄傠憐憸偟偰偄傞帪娫偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|johnp: seems like a Tartan-variant|pg|| nt|Walddk2: She treated her hand as good enough for a strong 1@C|pg|| nt|davidstern: Trump lead best but the club pips will still probably see this make|pg|| nt|davidstern: Having played strong club we do this often but we do alert - many dont|pg|| nt|hedyg: i would even bid it in my sleep|pg|| nt|hedyg: wouldnt dream of bidding 3@h like this|pg|| nt|fabsayc: do they have a brake?|pg|| nt|gracelin1: in the closed room the Precision auction allowed NS to stop at 2H. Here North's 2 reverse is Forcing and South did not chicken out|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: This is helpful to declarer, in that his @D10 will now become a winner.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Yes : the shortness in partner's long suit is a good indicator that the hands fit well for cross-ruffing purposes, and the side ace is likely to be useful. Of course, East has the ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: one hand type where it isn't.|pg|| nt|lc: Incidentally, this is the king of auction that screams for a trump lead (dummy raises declarer's second suit).|pg|| nt|lc: Anyway -- Chambers' hand also suggest a trump lead -- he has great @S and knows decalerer will want to ruff them in dummy.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: OR passes without preferencing!|pg|| nt|lc: East plays a @S, and it seems dec is a trick short.|pg|| nt|timty: 僀僫乕傪廳帇偡傞僟僽儖偺傛偆偱偡偹|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 倂偼僗億僢僩僇乕僪偑嫮偄偺偱丄忔偭偨傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 俢俻僟僽儖僩儞偖傜偄偟偐儊乕僉儞僌 儍儞僗側偝偦偆偱偡|pg|| nt|bjacobs: That's quite a carefully crafted example Dave - not sure I'm convinced|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I like Liu Li's action in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not the kind of dummy I would expect on this auction|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The result is that he turned a plus into a minus score|pg|| nt|gerben42: for me there is no inbetween hands, except perhaps white vs red|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3@D would have gone 1 off|pg|| nt|gerben42: very just game so far|pg|| nt|sybarra: braver than I would be to step in with 3 @H |pg|| nt|Walddk2: This should be 1 down too|pg|| nt|bjacobs: In the other room, South opened 1@H|pg|| nt|robbg: shhh|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 2H|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Even though they are overboard, it is the modern trend to bid such games. I expect at least 2/3 of the field to be in this.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Was 3@h a possible bid by Martel?|pg|| nt|lc: North, knowing of at least a 6-2 fit, has no reason to insist on NT.|pg|| nt|lc: South knows he is facing 3=5 in the majors, 3-2 either way in the minors -- thus no 8-card fit.|pg|| nt|lc: Dec gets 4@D and 2 black aces. East has to know to play @S when he takes @DA.|pg|| nt|nakatani: 3僟僂儞偱偡丄屻偱廋惓偟傑偡|pg|| nt|othered1: Aggressive, well judged raise by south. |pg|| nt|Walddk2: Science did not work here|pg|| nt|dave_w: it's certainly a possibilty - I was just demonstrating the heart lead can't be ruled out completely|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, you might bid 3@c - but you know the opponents are in a six-card fit|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But I would be pleasantly surprised of course|pg|| nt|qing: Lu might even suspect she was playing a 5-2 fit from the bidding|pg|| nt|fabsayc: indeed 2@S direct over 1@S would have allowed for slam exploration|pg|| nt|gerben42: bad auctions lead to bad results|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Kan vel g 4 ned|pg|| nt|brann: Blir vel 4 i praksis.....trumf matt....|pg|| nt|jbgood: kan fort bli 4 ned |pg|| nt|Walddk4: 3 mod 1 John!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Giv dig|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Spill @S f鴕st, s g錼 det vel fint.|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Nej, hjerter f鴕st|pg|| nt|Walddk4: s kan man slippe med 3 ned|pg|| nt|brann: hehe, Roland, ingen fors鴎 p vinne en cola eller 2 ?|pg|| nt|jbgood: Roland har kikket i kortene!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Man skal have rejst den 4. hjerter|pg|| nt|vugraph103: marianne tenker|pg|| nt|johnp: Og spillef鴕er mangler @d 7 - jeg gir meg|pg|| pc|d2|nt|eyhung: He also has high honors in every side suit. This practically guarantees that declarer won't be able to pull trump and run a long suit, discarding losers. |pg|| nt|Vugraph2: very begrudgingly plays the 10|pg|| nt|jwit: Light opener by west could have kept NS out of trouble, but aggressive 2NT bid by South got them back in hot water|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But Shi knows that NS violated Burn's Law of Total Trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes better than some i have seen recently!|pg|| pc|d6|nt|lc: We almost got to watch a 3-3 fit :)|pg|| nt|lc: I think in an unfamiliar partnership it best not to make a delicate bid such as 3@H. But yes, probably a possibity.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Compton puts a card face down and starts thinking|pg|| nt|lc: So, a few N-S pairs will stumble into slam (not clear which one). Is there a miracle in the cards?|pg|| nt|lc: Certainly 6@S has no chance. Maybe 6@C or 6NT from the right side with the wrong lead and maybe some good luck or guessing. Complex.|pg|| nt|timty: 嶌傠偆偲偡傞偲偦傟偔傜偄棊偪偰偟傑偄傑偡偹|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 侾斣 乕僪丄摨偠揥奐偱丄@D偺俀弰栚偺屻丄僟 乕偐傜@c傪堷偒丄@cK偱忋偑偭偨俤偑@sJ傪庢偭偰丄俁俶俿儊僀僪偟偨傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偍偍両丂@俠偱枴晅偗僾儗僀偑惉岟偟偨偺偱偡偹丅丂@|pg|| pc|dT|nt|lc: East can duck first @D -- |pg|| nt|lc: DEc has for sure, 6 @H tricks and @C trick.|pg|| nt|timty: 偙偺 乕僪偼僋儔僽傪摉偰傞偲偱偒傔偑戝偒偄偱偡偑|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @C傪摉偰傟偽娙扨偱偡偑丏丏丏|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僆乕僾儞儖乕儉偼丄擲偭偰俁僟僂儞側傛偆偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @C儕乕僪偱丄@C偺俀弰栚傪@c8偱僼傿僱僗偟偨傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 側傞傎偳丅丂@俢僄僗 僽儕僢僔儏偺僄儞僩儕傪摼傞偨傔偵丄偱俽偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 惓摉側僾儗僀偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偟偰丄俽偑尒偮偐傜側偗傟偽丄傪婜懸偟偰丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傕偟偔偼丄俽僽儘僢僋 偱丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俽傕丄俠俿傕偭偰偰傕丄僙僇儞僪僴儞僪俿両偱丄僄儞僩儕僉儕儞僌僾儗僀偼尒偮偗側偄偱偟傚偆偟丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @S傪弌偟偨偺偼柺敀偄僾儗僀偱偡偑丄@H俲偑僆僼僒僀僪偱偼偄偐傫偲傕丅|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|eyhung: After the preempt on the right, it's not far out of line to find the winning line. |pg|| nt|gerben42: maybe thought about the Burn's Law violation by vuln. opps|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Not always, Gerben - there is no justice!|pg|| nt|hedyg: W will have to exit with a @c!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He may be able to come to 6 tricks|pg|| pc|d5|nt|lc: So, N-S tried for their 3-3 fit, landed in their 4-3 fit, and never bid their 5-3 fit ---|pg|| nt|lc: I doubt many N-S will be in SIX-- but for the few that are, the @D guess will swing roughly 500 cross-imps -- about as big as it gets for guessing a queen.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俻倶倶丂@ 倶倶丂@倶倶倶倶丂@倶倶丂@偱傕椙偄僗儔儉偱偼柍偄偐傜偹丅|pg|| nt|sybarra: I remember Roland saying that...no my cup of tea either |pg|| pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: Well, she had her bid|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Most likely even. 3 hearts, 1 spade, 2 diamonds, end|pg|| pc|d9|nt|lc: The @D9 is presumably suit pref to show the @S card.|pg|| nt|lc: Now, another @D gives declarer a headache.|pg|| nt|lc: He can survive another @D -- has to ruff high and then guess well.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 5 min warning|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: A distinct lack of tricks on this hand|pg|| nt|lc: So, there will be more Italian flying under the screen after this one.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俆枃僒億乕僩丄@H侽揰偖傜偄偟偐丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Curtains, the club loser will go away on a diamond|pg|| nt|qing: well this is nice for the mixed game -- as a gentleman, you are supposed to table down some better dummies|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i thought we only had to take out the garbage :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: wd|pg|| nt|gerben42: right - not always - but so far in this match|pg|| nt|gracelin1: the closed room EW are Jack Zhow and Fu Zhong, freshed from winning the Vanderbilt in March|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Jeg forst錼 slet ikke hvordan man kan melde 4@D uden @D7|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|lc: But, I completely understand.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Passell looks worried. Nancy that is. She is kibbitzing|pg|| nt|lc: The only way to get saved would be if South could correct 2@S to 2NT -- to say -- choose between the minors (since 2NT natural wouldn't really be likely).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Mike looks like this is a walk in the park|pg|| nt|lc: You can play the 2@H bidder for the @D shortness, yes -- but don't forget, you expect @H are 6-5 -- and find @S 2-2 -- so not a huge clue or percentage to play for 3-1 @D.|pg|| nt|lc: Then, when he does eventually take his @DA, he can get a signal from West.|pg|| nt|henryb: the bad thing about this hand is that you are probably going down. The good thing is that the opponents can probably make a club partial|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/qx93x is the link to the official web site. Simplified Chinese translated into English with schedule, results and photos|pg|| nt|jbgood: du er i Norge n Roland - her melder vi til og med 7@d uten @d 4|pg|| nt|Walddk4: hehe|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm er linket til den officielle hjemmeside med masser af oplysninger og billeder af spillerne|pg|| nt|johnp: www.nordpol.no/diamond7.htm|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Ikke s underligt at Marianne er i t鎛keboks. Ruderne kunne endda have v鎟et 5-1|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Med mindre Jorunn ogs har tekniske problemer|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er du der?|pg|| nt|brann: Det er vel ikke s mye tenke p, man f錼 ta de stikk man f錼 og ta neste spill....|pg|| nt|Walddk4: :-(|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Jeg frygter det v鎟ste|pg|| nt|jbgood: bedre ta enn f:)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Jorunn har tr鴅bel med PCen|pg|| nt|johnp: @d7-linken trenger vel http://|pg|| pc|c3|nt|eyhung: Nancy better not sweat her husband when he's playing poker.|pg|| nt|barnets: should south have overcalled 1D against the strong club larry ?|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俽偺僇僂儞僩僔僌僫儖偑惓偟偗傟偽丄俶偺|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @C9偑偍偐偟偄偺偱丄|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僼傿僱僗偼偟側偄偲傒傑偟偨丅|pg|| nt|timty: @CJ傪偩偟偰K偩偭偨傜偍傕偟傠偐偭偨偐傕|pg|| nt|fabsayc: overtaking the club looks like a mistake|pg|| nt|gerben42: ah Roland was faster|pg|| nt|robbg: next|pg|| nt|othered1: @C8 just saved declarer some concern|pg|| nt|hedyg: all those useless points in dummy:((|pg|| nt|robbg: y|pg|| nt|reisig: a claim coming|pg|| pc|c8|nt|npcjpn: 偙傟偼俀僟僂儞偐側丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @SJ偑僾儘儌乕僩偟偦偆丅|pg|| pc|c5|nt|lc: Spared a very tough guess.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: always gets them to play faster|pg|| nt|lc: On another @D, he would have to ruff with the @HQ, @H to Ace, then finesse later.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偦傟偼係偮尒偰傞偐傜丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傾儞僽儘僢僋偟偰丄惓摉側丄俿俋僟僽儖僩儞偱丄倂偺俉傪僄儞僩儕偵偡傞僾儗僀偱偡偹|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僼傿僱僗偟傑偟偨偹丅僾僢僔儏偐側丅|pg|| nt|timty: 俋偑棊偪偰偒偨帪揰偱僼傿僱僗偡傞偐J-K偲偡傞偐偺僎僗偱偼丠|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偦偆偐傕丅|pg|| nt|jwit: Some squeeze possibilities here if defense isn't careful|pg|| nt|loganrun: but you wouldn't have lead a heart Dave would you?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The lead in the other room made things a lot easier for declarer right enough|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @CA against 3NT|pg|| nt|dave_w: I'd probably lead a heart or a club. I think it's close|pg|| nt|dburn: and you have a couple of kings to contribute to the defensive effort|pg|| nt|Walddk2: However, North has 150 honours!|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 8 of @D gives the show away|pg|| nt|lc: So, to have any chance at 9 tricks, seems like Passell might have to guess the @CA doubleton -- vaguely possible.|pg|| nt|lc: More normal, I think to just hope for 3-3 @C.|pg|| nt|lc: Passell normally a fast player, but lots to think about here.|pg|| nt|lc: I suspect a direct 1@D overcall may have been systemic -- thus Compton's original pass.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Right, declarer can get home here with a diamond to king, club to the king, and duck a club|pg|| nt|lc: Always a good idea to think a little at T1 - even with garbage like East's.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 倶倶倶倶丂@倶倶倶丂@ 倶倶丂@倶倶丂@偲偐偹丅丂@|pg|| nt|davidstern: E/W have an excelent save in 5@H going -300 if the defence cash out|pg|| nt|henryb: Roland is always faster|pg|| pc|s6|nt|eyhung: the question is whether South will play North for @DKJT apparently he was worried about that combo?|pg|| nt|lc: Also, at some tables the auction will be very different. West can open 1@H. North can open weak 2@D.|pg|| nt|lc: West's @H7 presumably U.D. ATT.|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|gerben42: Burn's Law, of course, states that you should have more trumps than the opponents when declaring|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|sA|nt|lc: Speaking of Italian -- next month, the World Bridge Championships will be in Verona, Italy.|pg|| nt|lc: As most know, Italy is one of the top bridge countries in the world.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Sementa kinda flipping the played cards . You can tell he is in trouble|pg|| nt|eyhung: I am a bit surprised by their behavior -- I was always under the impression that the best bridge players were able to keep their composure at the table. I know I love it when my ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: opponents start assessing the blame at my table.|pg|| nt|eyhung: It means they are less likely to focus and play at 100% for the following hand.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: not about composure its about release of energy|pg|| nt|hedyg: @s exit would have given him the game|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But wait ....|pg|| nt|cuttysark: East unlikely to spot a ruff after the opening|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Will Guo return a diamond now?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|lc: Yes -- it is unusual to see such animated behavior -- but it really doesn't mean anything -- they do it on bad AND good boards.|pg|| nt|qing: you say this all because your wife is not watching? :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The venue is the Taichang City Arena in the Jiangsu province, hosting a total of 8 tournaments this week. It's 1.00 pm Wednesday local time now|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|eyhung: but he must be worried about a diamond ruff -- 3-3 clubs far "safer"|pg|| nt|othered1: This is not over yet, and East will have to take the spade ace to get the count right for declarer.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How can he play Liu for a singleton?|pg|| pc|d3|nt|lc: So, 10 or 11 tricks here depending on the @D guess.|pg|| nt|lc: For example, consider 6NT -- without a @S lead. Dec plays @H to the 10 -- that gets him up to 11 tricks -- maybe some position against West.|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|lc: I'm sure someone out there will enter it into double-dummy software and know instantly if 6 anything can make. We'll move on to 18.|pg|| nt|qing: would be better if Ma keeps the @CJ so he can be on lead after winning @C, but Wu found the good return anyway|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome sight for Shen, @C9 and Queen|pg|| nt|hedyg: ooops|pg|| pc|dK|nt|lc: I doubt he would have chosen that line (requiring South to have specifically singleton @H10 or @HJ).|pg|| nt|lc: So, had South played @D, @D, @D overruff back to @SA, overruff -- that would have been down 1 off the top.|pg|| nt|henryb: Do does that mean that he ends up +50?|pg|| nt|gerben42: 150 honors = Royal Flush? sorry in my rubber games we never count honors|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, the opponents are also vulnerable|pg|| nt|hedyg: are you joking'|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Aren't we all vulnerable to some extent?|pg|| nt|hedyg: :))|pg|| nt|gerben42: is it a corollary of Burn's Law is that when you have more trumps than the opponents and they are vuln. you should let them declare?|pg|| nt|dburn: so +50 isn't all that likely - unless they go down two and North claims his 150 honours|pg|| nt|henryb: I think he will end up down 1|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|lc: Good rule of thumb is to put in the JACK in these situations. If no other clue, assume they "might have taken ACE" if they had it, so assume they don't.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Larry, what's your opinion on requiring declarer to pause 10 seconds at trick 1 so as to give East some time to think about the whole hand?|pg|| nt|lc: Therefore, East shifted to @S.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He did show a balanced hand after all|pg|| nt|gerben42: is trying to give pd a ruff now worth a call to the director?|pg|| nt|hedyg: that comes from opening 1nt|pg|| nt|hedyg: why a ruff? pd is supposed to have Q@d!|pg|| nt|hedyg: so can play it|pg|| pc|c6|nt|eyhung: oops, that set up the queen of hearts.|pg|| nt|lc: Seems like declarer is OK now.|pg|| nt|lc: Most experts, though, as here, are capable of smoothly ducking when they hold the ACE.|pg|| nt|jwit: there's trick number nine|pg|| nt|sharkirl: making now|pg|| nt|othered1: Just another vul 3NT|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|lc: I prefer no talking, calmness -- only thing to say to partner is "nicely played" or something.|pg|| nt|lc: No facial expressions, etc.|pg|| nt|lc: Boring. If you want to kibbiitz live, it is much more fun to watch the top Italians.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: you would never cut it in Italy. :)) They probably think the Americans need to liven up!!|pg|| nt|lc: Almost all of the top Americans this way are super-quiet at the table. Not like in the old days.|pg|| pc|cK|nt|timty: 僋儔僽傪偼偢偡偺偼晛捠偱偟傚偆|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: ruffing with Q was good play to ensure the contract|pg|| nt|dave_w: looks like you'll always get home in 3NT regardless of the lead roland - perhaps handed a few overtricks away.|pg|| nt|dave_w: hard to fault anyone with the missed game in this room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You have 8 top tricks, yes, and you'll get the 9th somewhere, eventually|pg|| nt|qing: taichang is a small city near Suzhou, which is the highest growing city in china in recent years|pg|| nt|roswolf: hm this is getting dangerous - my wife IS watchiing!|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|lc: These guys are doing it faster than I can type it!|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: led back careful Jof @s|pg|| nt|lc: Anyway -- good bridge, I'd say. (You know the saying "Down 1 is good bridge")|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 6 imps back for Guangdong|pg|| nt|henryb: No, that would be -50 for N-S. He goes down one and claims honors|pg|| nt|dburn: I imagine he will|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That's +50 for NS|pg|| nt|henryb: that is +50|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Sorry specs if this sounds confusing|pg|| nt|gerben42: how about 5 IMPs for EW|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Gerben will explain how you get a bonus for honours playing rubber bridge|pg|| pc|sK|nt|lc: People like Al Roth, Ira Rubin -- they could put on a show.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @C俀枃傑偱昁梫丅|pg|| pc|s4|nt|henryb: I think he is too young|pg|| pc|s7|nt|eyhung: this way was far more "natural" though.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偱偡偹丅|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|lc: So, def could have switched to @S to set up 5th trick -- too late now.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: @D could still be 4-1|pg|| nt|eyhung: (at the highest levels, of course)|pg|| nt|lc: Eugene -- I would like it if dec always took a little time at T1 to allow East to get ready. I don't like when they fast-play.|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Li chose a different line and was actually 3 down a minute ago|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|gracelin1: or 5|pg|| pc|c2|nt|timty: 偙傟偱侾僟僂儞偱偡偹|pg|| nt|qing: only 4 I think|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Anyone ever read about Auction bridge scoring?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Back to down 2 now|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|mc|6|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAT2HAK5D87CT8542,SK6HQT32DKQJ9652C,SJ4HJ94DAT43CAKQJ,SQ98753H876DC9763|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|an| |mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|mc|7|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SK9863HKT875DKCKJ,SA7HAJ42DA842C762,S542H9DJ653CQ9854,SQJTHQ63DQT97CAT3|sv|e|nt|lc: Maybe North would raise with @DKJ10 -- but, yes that was also a possibility. Anyway-- it would have prob been down with another @D paly.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: the field will open the south hand but will Amos?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Kaminsky|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: All quiet on the Italian front |pg|| nt|lc: Roth has the most famous line of all (to a partner), I think. But definitely not to be printed here :)|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Woolsey sighs OK|pg|| nt|lc: So, as much as I love and teach 1NT with 5-card major, this N hand would be my exception to the rule.|pg|| nt|lc: I think N-S could have been pushed to 3, but no matter since 9 easy tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: Personally, I would act over 2@S with BOTH E-W hands -- but that's just my way.|pg|| nt|lc: I don't know if Martel-Fleisher are playing weak NT -- we will soon find out.|pg|| nt|lc: although, the South hand looks weak to me even though it is 15.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: More Italian. Less Dutch:)|pg|| nt|lc: Over North's weak 2@D, N-S might reach slam.|pg|| nt|lc: Here, 6@D is a good contract -- sort of on 1 of 2 red-suit finesses.|pg|| nt|lc: Good thing the last deal is coming -- I feel more worn out mentally than when I play!|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅傑偨偼丄俻丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 侾俶丂@俁俶丂@僷僗丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俽 偱忋偑偭偨僨傿僋儗傾儔乕偼丄俤偵丄俽俲俰丄丂@俢俻俰丄俠俲丂@傪婜懸偟偨僾儗僀揥奐側傫偱偡偹丅丂@丂@|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @DA偑倂偵側偄偲巒傑傜側偄偺偱丄巇曽側偟偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|jwit: In retrospect, best defense may have been to attack hearts at trick two. Not easy to do.|pg|| nt|othered1: No, it's a two-way partial swing. Might blame 2-bid for that|pg|| nt|vugraph191: 2@h doesn't promise a minor |pg|| nt|gracelin1: srry|pg|| nt|loganrun: diamonds always break well?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not in Spain|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOLLLL|pg|| nt|henryb: I have|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Thanks, old time friend!|pg|| nt|hedyg: she didnt say play it! she said read about it!|pg|| nt|qing: you have my sympathy|pg|| nt|Walddk2: "Small" cities in China usually have 1 million inhabitants :-)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :-))|pg|| nt|gerben42: funny - even when you escaped from the transfer to your singleton you still get a bad score :)|pg|| nt|robbg: what's with these @d suits?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraph2: nothing spoken on to the next one|pg|| nt|lc: I'd open 1@H, intending to invent a rebid (presumably 2m). |pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 5 min warning|pg|| nt|lc: So, looks like 3NT E-W -- but they have to play it from West or a @S lead beats it.|pg|| nt|lc: Presuming Martel bids 1@S, West will play it and have no trouble.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Martel overcalled . waiting for Bertens|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|lc: At Fav, I'd have to give up bridge before I passed the South hand. I can't play that way.|pg|| nt|lc: No insult intended -- I just feel strongly that opening is winning action in this situation.|pg|| nt|lc: Maybe with the time pressure, Passell chose a faster 1NT :)|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: passell ALWAYS opens 1nt|pg|| nt|lc: OK -- so since he opened 1@C, my guess is 1NT would have been 12-14 -- what Martel plays with his regular partner, Lew Stansby.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Multi is not allowed in this event for those telling me I have it wrong last hand|pg|| nt|lc: However, we can see that declarer might fail -- losing a trick in each red suit. (We kibbitzers would lose NO red-suit tricks).|pg|| nt|doty: LEADERS WITH ONE ROUND TO PLAY:|pg|| nt|doty: 1 - Bertens-Bakkeren +2098|pg|| nt|doty: 2 - Hampson-Rodwell +1744|pg|| nt|doty: 3 - Cohler-Weinstein +1644|pg|| nt|doty: 4 - Cheek-Grue +1432|pg|| nt|doty: 5 - Fleisher-Martel +1362|pg|| nt|doty: 6 - Jacobs-Katz +1361|pg|| nt|doty: 7 - Nagy-Richman +1358|pg|| nt|doty: 8 - Levin-Weinstein +1337|pg|| nt|doty: 9 - Sementa-Versace +1280|pg|| nt|doty: 10 - Brogeland-Del'Monte +1226|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT|pg|| nt|doty: |pg|| nt|lc: it's hard enough to worry about my own 13 cards -- to worry about 52 must be 4 times as hard!|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偲偙傠偑丄僆億乕僱儞僩偑儊僕儍乕偱嫞偭偰偒傑偟偨丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 儊僕儍乕僘偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 2@c偑儊僕儍乕僘偲偄偆偙偲偼丄2@d偑偳偪傜偐偺儊僕儍乕偺侾僗乕 乕偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僶儖偱傕丄俆俆偱偡偐傜丄婃挘偭偰傒傑偡偹丅丂@僷乕僩僫乕偑係丄俆枃儊僕儍乕側傜丄|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偡傞偲丄俽俲丄俠俲偼俤偵嫃傞偲憐掕偟偰丄儊僀僋 儍儞僗傪峫偊傞丅偲偄偆|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 嶌傞偨傔偵偼丄梋暘偺僟僂儞偼婥偵偟側偄偲丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 幚嵺偵偦偆側偭偰側偄帪偵丄俀僟僂儞偟偨偲偟偰傕丄偦傟偼|pg|| nt|hanayama: 乽婥偵偟側偄乿|pg|| nt|gerben42: well since reading about it was before my time I have to conclude that Liz is at least 30 years old, sorry for uncovering that secret|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: We have a chance to set the record for fastest round ever.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Looks like a fairly dull set of boards. |pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Zia complaining about the hands he got on vugraph|pg|| nt|lc: Slow down guys !!! We don't want to have to fill 15 minutes again.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Larry . What do you think of opening 1 nt with West?|pg|| nt|lc: North might have X 1!X, but I prefer 1@H.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 仈侾俋丄僨傿僼僃儞僗偺榬帋偟側係俫偺傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|henryb: maybe West should balance with 2N or 3@c?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hardly a surprise when we are having broadcasts from China. Very strong bridge nation|pg|| nt|sybarra: must have missed getting 1 ace in the other room |pg|| nt|sybarra: for n/s|pg|| nt|robbg: 7@s here with right view|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|lc: Now, it won't be clear if X by Passell is @H or T.O. of @H.|pg|| nt|lc: So, these 3 deals 19-20-21 are super-swingy -- IMPs flying all over the room on each one.|pg|| nt|lc: So, the Dutch pair, that had a huge +620 (on 16) that we saw here, is in the lead.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 倂偺4@S偼@H儕乕僪偱僲乕 儍儞僗丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僀僫乕僗僥僀 儞偐傜丄@d偺僒僀儞僆僼偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅丂@倂偼係俽價僢僪偡傞傗傕丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俤倂偺4@s偼!K偺儕乕僪偱丄僆乕僶乕僥僀僋偟偰@C僔僼僩偲偄偆摉慠偺僨傿僼僃儞僗偱侾僟僂儞丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: @DK偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偺摉慠偑丄側偐側偐丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 倂偑僨傿僋儗傾儔乕側傜偽丄傑偨柪偄傕偁傝偦偆丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙偺僴儞僪偼@SA偺偲偒偵傕偆堦搙 儍儞僗偑偁傞偺偱丅|pg|| nt|henryb: It was also 6 points for spades, 7 for clubs, 8 for diamonds and 9 for hearts|pg|| nt|othered1: Another flawed (aceless) 12 point hand opposite an "opening bid."|pg|| nt|Walddk2: East had a cunning plan against 3NT in the other room|pg|| nt|qing: yeah my hometown is a small city with about 2 million ppl and 100 miles away|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 690 would be a top at MP and would win the board at BAM|pg|| nt|hedyg: missing 2 aces. all else is good|pg|| nt|reisig: 2 4@d opening in a row:))|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: 1N-3N -- @H lead |pg|| nt|lc: Or, less likely, he downgraded this hand and eschewed a strong notrump.|pg|| nt|lc: Most players like to upgrade, but don't like to downgrade when it comes to 1NT openings.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Yes, it's rare to see experts downgrade when they play the hands so well.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: may have 4 card major|pg|| nt|lc: So, 2@S presumably LIMIT-RAISE or better in @D. |pg|| nt|lc: North X to show @S card, and that will worry West a little, but seems like 3NT is inevitable.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Don't duck!|pg|| nt|lc: I don't like 1NT when hand easy to bid by 1@C then @S.|pg|| nt|lc: If you reversed the major, then we could talk.|pg|| nt|lc: here, the hand is very suity, and not notrumpy, so why distort it when you have an easy auction?|pg|| nt|ahalim: will EW bid slam ?|pg|| nt|hedyg: hard to find the slam after S's pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, West has upgraded to call his hand 20. I agree.|pg|| nt|lc: If they land in 5@D, I don't expect another defensive disasater by Martel-Fleisher -- so they would be down 1.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 帺暘払偵係俽丄係俫偑偁傞偐傕丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偝偰丄椙偄僨傿僼僃儞僗僾儗僀偺尒偣強偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|roswolf: this slam is a little unlucky - both finesses wrong|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3@S was definitely living dangerously and maximum EW result|pg|| nt|roswolf: the ladies certainly like to bid even when they dont have the traditional values|pg|| nt|othered1: Might be tricky to find the @CQ now|pg|| nt|robbg: I think N hand is worth a try|pg|| nt|hedyg: 6 makes without a view:)|pg|| nt|robbg: I don't think they will bid or make 7|pg|| nt|hedyg: S would bid 4@s with 0 points..|pg|| nt|reisig: everyone like 4@s bid?|pg|| mb|d|nt|lc: Most treat Pass then X by South as takeout. For Penalty, you X first, then X.|pg|| nt|lc: Still, a few will hog it up with 1NT>|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 儕僗僋傛傝傕丄僎僀儞偺曽偑戝偒偦偆偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅 惉丅|pg|| nt|othered1: It's good enough|pg|| nt|vugraph191: they found a 3-3 fit :-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: AK A10 and AKJ -- are worth 20 -- especially with the points in the long suits.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: supposed to dbl this?|pg|| nt|lc: WEst could have bid a LAWful 4@S, but probably didn't like the make up of the hand (flattish -- queen-jacky).|pg|| nt|eyhung: I like to call that "quacky". |pg|| nt|lc: So, this would be down 4 -- if North sits, 800 for N-S. |pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Sementa sits back in his chair and looks up at the ceiling|pg|| nt|hanayama: 傑偨偼丄儊僀僋偡傞俆俢丠|pg|| nt|henryb: too good. not sporting to bid slams that only need no 7-1 side suit break|pg|| nt|qing: here's the swing hand, 6@H here is slightly better than one finesse if played by @S|pg|| nt|gerben42: how often do you have to duck your aces not to get them?|pg|| nt|hedyg: he should bid more|pg|| nt|robbg: I would bid 4@s. |pg|| mb|2S|nt|lc: Now, the alert confirms what I thought. Weak NT's.|pg|| nt|lc: It would help if their were a mirror on the ceiling.|pg|| nt|lc: Easy Neg X but East and 4@H for South and 4@S by West -- then not clear.|pg|| nt|lc: South might have figured his partner has 4@S (since E and W each rate to have 4).|pg|| nt|lc: They are plus about 300 for the session -- they probably don't feel as if they are winning. (They started this session in 2nd place at +1842).|pg|| nt|othered1: Was 1@S natural? Do they have no forcing bid in @C?|pg|| nt|henryb: can he get back to clubs?|pg|| nt|henryb: I would rather respond 6@c than 1@s|pg|| nt|ahalim: the 1@S bid makes things complicated|pg|| nt|johnp: Adam, look at sys.card - what would 2@c be?|pg|| nt|othered1: I hate "what's trumps?" auctions|pg|| nt|vugraph191: he can always say that a club was among the @ss :-) |pg|| nt|henryb: 1@c presumably is possibly short|pg|| nt|ahalim: maybe more than one club :))|pg|| nt|othered1: Still, east's hand looks oriented to forcing with clubs|pg|| nt|ahalim: How short Henry ?|pg|| nt|othered1: Even if it's his own suit and not really support|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, a slam you would like to be in|pg|| nt|fabsayc: mirror shape though, almost a sure loser in spades, so not really a good slam|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: probably needed a @D ruff to beat 3@S|pg|| nt|davidstern: I watched a Chinese women's match a month or so ago and the standard was incredibly high - I wish that the Australian Open team would play that well|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They really should be playing poker|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Beforew North had AKQJ10 now East has KQJ109|pg|| nt|gerben42: I am NOT playing poker against these players, all these straight flushes|pg|| nt|henryb: How did they get out for down 2?|pg|| nt|gerben42: maybe East threw a @C|pg|| nt|cuttysark: He's wondering whether East has no clubs.|pg|| nt|sybarra: options richie?|pg|| nt|reisig: 5@s|pg|| nt|othered1: 4@S looks OK. Preempts work.|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Many possible games for N-S to reach here -- some good, some not.|pg|| nt|eyhung: a critical card happens to be the @S2. If North East switched the @S2 and @C2, 3NT would not make as the defense would take the first 5 spades. It shows the power of a 9-card fit ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: as opposed to an 8-card one.|pg|| nt|lc: On the other hand, it was possible West was 5-5 or 5-6 in blacks -- and potentiall huge double fit.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偍偍丄婥偑偮偒傑偣傫偱偟偨丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俽 丄俻丄俢侾丄俠俻偱丄係屄偲傟傞偐偳偆偐丄丅|pg|| nt|henryb: I would guess 2+ with balanced hands|pg|| nt|gracelin1: if South plays the hand and West makes an aggressive lead...|pg|| nt|qing: or 6@C, for that matter|pg|| mb|p|nt|eyhung: If we have time during the next break, and if people are interested, I can tell a story involving Stone and Mitchell. But on to the next hand...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 10 ambiguous to cheek|pg|| nt|eyhung: Apparently this pair leads Rusinow. Have any opinions on Rusinow leads vs standard honor leads, Larry?|pg|| nt|lc: barry -- Tell Zia I said that if he were doing better, he'd be on Vugraph more.|pg|| nt|lc: West had to be concened about his partner holding a singleton @S -- that's why it was a slow 3NT, not a fast one :)|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Bertens asking about the dbl|pg|| nt|eyhung: Swift auction to 3NT, without checking for a 4-4 @S fit. Usually it's not a good idea to do that with 4=3=3=3.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 幐楃丄庤寴偄俀俫偺傛偆偱丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 傑偨俆揰弅傑傝傑偟偨丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俆枃俫偁傞偗傟偳丄俢俻俰僟僽儖僩儞側偺偱丄僩儔僀偟側偄偺偼擺摼偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|johnp: yes - bot how many times must E bid @c before W stop preferring to @s?|pg|| nt|ahalim: then you already have a 10 crd fit :))|pg|| nt|ahalim: Luckily 6NT makes|pg|| nt|henryb: Yes. Problem is, what is 2@c. I play it as natural and gf, sort of a 2/1 with @c|pg|| nt|othered1: It really feels like this auction is hardly natural. Would make more sense if 1S were a transfer to clubs :)|pg|| nt|henryb: but X was "support"|pg|| nt|ahalim: Well East knows that @s is a 3-3 fit, the problem is that West does not|pg|| nt|henryb: Are there any kibitzers who know the E-W system?|pg|| nt|vugraph191: will ask them after the board|pg|| nt|johnp: I must rofl - this is just like beeing at the highway and forget reading the last speed-sign...|pg|| nt|henryb: I will repeat a comment from the last segment: the Hungarians should take tempo lessons in Brazil|pg|| nt|henryb: There is really little excuse for this|pg|| nt|henryb: The only advantage is that if you pause all the time, partner cannot read anything into the pauses|pg|| nt|johnp: E still at the table?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I remember that one, was great bridge|pg|| nt|hedyg: so no A@s|pg|| nt|sybarra: my guess also |pg|| nt|hedyg: 4nt- 5@s and now how do you stop?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: trump lead will make 4@H less than certain|pg|| nt|gracelin1: Yudidn't give too much respect on pd's unfav Vul. two opening|pg|| nt|gracelin1: just draw trumps and duck a Club|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The EW cards fit pretty well, but the 3-3 club break is lucky|pg|| mb|4H|nt|lc: Of course, it isn't a good idea to upgrade when partner has the garbage that East does.|pg|| nt|barnets: 16 days|pg|| nt|eyhung: I suppose X was takeout in both positions. So they'll find hearts, but they'll end up wishing they hadn't with the matching black-suit lengths.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Larry . crowd wants to know why you dont open 1nt|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Compton leaves|pg|| nt|lc: After @SA and a @S back, declarer will face an annoying guess -- but since the suit is blocked, he can't go wrong.|pg|| nt|lc: If South has @SAK10xx opp @SJxx -- dec has to go up with the @SQ on 2nd round ...|pg|| nt|lc: Then, he could bid 7@D and pick up both red suits.|pg|| nt|timty: 僲儞僶儖偱俀@h傪擖傟傞偺偑晛捠偱偟傚偆偐丠|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偱傕側偄偱偡偹丅@s 俲偲庢偭偰丄@C傪弌偣偽丅|pg|| nt|othered1: Or club shift at trick 2 would have been a squeeze killer.|pg|| nt|jwit: Good stop by NS|pg|| nt|othered1: But wasn't a likely, at the table defense.|pg|| nt|sybarra: some defenses easier to see from this angle |pg|| nt|ahalim: wiil there be any unauthorized info ??|pg|| nt|fabsayc: does anybody understand this auction?|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 3 showing 11-13 with 4C and a higher suit, 4D is probaly RKC|pg|| nt|davidstern: Everybody ready for the World Cup Soccer|pg|| nt|Walddk2: THis looks like down 1 but still 3 IMPs to Guangdong|pg|| nt|roswolf: but n/s should stop safely|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South didn't open in the other room. This lady Yang Yang is the aggressive type|pg|| nt|qing: note: they are not obligated to table down a nice dummy, though|pg|| nt|fabsayc: a well tuned partnership|pg|| nt|Walddk2: (and my wife is not watching)|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| nt|qing: and again, the gentleman defender is nice enough to have some general garbage and singleton trump|pg|| nt|fabsayc: there are many variations of this 2@C rebid, in most south can say very bad with 3 spades|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i suspect that was case here|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: So, this game -- 3NT -- is not one of the better ones.|pg|| nt|lc: Hampson-Rodwell started at +2221 - and are minus.|pg|| nt|hanayama: @@|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僾儗僀偼丄侾侾屄偱寛傑傝偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俶偺係俶偱丄嫞傝崌偄偺敾抐偑愨柇偱偟偨丅丂@尒帠側敾抐丅|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 3C|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The vulnerable game is just slightly below par|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Presuming a @C lead, declarer would need 3-3 @H and the @S finesse -- it won't happen here.|pg|| nt|lc: 4@H would be better than 3NT -- but we see the 5-1 @H.|pg|| nt|lc: Probably, 5@D is best --|pg|| nt|lc: I play Rusinow (second from honors), but have no strong feelings. I think STD is good enough.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Robson asks if KJ10 possible|pg|| nt|lc: So, a check-back type of auction to look for a 4-4 M fit and settle into the normal 3NT.|pg|| nt|lc: If South has @SAJ10xx and North has @SKxx, dec has to play low to block them.|pg|| nt|lc: But, on actual layout, he is Bertens-proof.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: fingering a club|pg|| nt|lc: In fact, Martely might try a @C switch, knowing @S won't work.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Surprisingly, sometimes there are in certain regional ballrooms! I've always wondered whether that's where people picked up the habit from.|pg|| nt|lc: 4@S would have been interesting -- to see if the 4-1 break would have beaten it or not (my guess is no).|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 1C is Precison, 1NT 8-13 bal|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Patrick is arguably one of the leading experts on Precision, so I assume he can see us through this|pg|| nt|gracelin1: I only understand the simpler version which is probably what they use here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: A slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 5NT is to play|pg|| nt|gracelin1: North needs to find the trump lead to test declarer|pg|| mb|p|nt|lc: Even 6@D isn't the worst contract ever.|pg|| nt|barnets: how about 4s|pg|| nt|lc: The field will bid 1N-2@C-2@S-3N and get a @C lead.|pg|| nt|lc: A @S lead might have caused problems.|pg|| nt|lc: Hard to know if this will be GOOD or BAD for each pair. Depends on play in those tables that reach slam.|pg|| nt|lc: If @SA is led against 6@D, ...|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僗 僀儖偺栤戣偱偟傚偆丅僷乕僩僫乕偑僷僗僩僴儞僪偱丄僆億乕僱儞僩偺僎乕儉偑擹岤側偺偱丅|pg|| nt|othered1: What in the world could have made him bid 3NT, unless some artificial sequence has gone off the tracks?|pg|| nt|hedyg: this seems a good way:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolol Roland|pg|| nt|sybarra: best way |pg|| nt|bjacobs: RKCB 101: Check whether a 5@S response leaves you too high|pg|| nt|fabsayc: south on lead, less clear|pg|| pc|c7|nt|othered1: If you are going to respond on almost anything, it pays to have ways out into a suit at the 3-level|pg|| nt|henryb: I think this underestimates the offensive potential of East's hand|pg|| nt|davidstern: Could be -2 with a trump promotion on 4th round clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, then the spade loser will go away|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Now the roof caves in|pg|| nt|dave_w: oops, might be struggling now|pg|| nt|bjacobs: If the defence divine what's going on|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting lead. I guess most of us would have selected a low club|pg|| nt|qing: 2@S looks quite a good contract when dummy comes down, I'm sure|pg|| nt|robbg: I think 5@s is too dangerous. I would expect to go down in 5 more often than I bid and make 6|pg|| nt|gracelin1: who can blame the poor North for reopening?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Team-mates? :-)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you dont tell them the auction|pg|| nt|gracelin1: I don't agree with East's 2H bid earlier, but I fully agree with the 4H recover|pg|| pc|c4|nt|lc: We will get to find out.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Cheek got a @d lead in though|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup - a good start for the defence - not that it makes much difference|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|lc: On a @S lead, I could see declarer losing 2 @S tricks, the @CA and @DAQ.|pg|| nt|lc: But, on this auction, or the field auction, declarer will show 4@S, making the @S lead unlikely.|pg|| nt|eyhung: due to the fortunate club position (@CJT) declarer has 9 tricks on power (@SAK, @HAKQJ, 2 clubs, 1 diamond). It appears he now has the tempi to take them.|pg|| nt|lc: Still decl not abale to claim -- he doesn't know the @H finesse is working.|pg|| nt|lc: Declare gets discard for his @H -- as here -- so easy 12+ tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: 5@S feels a bit undisciplined to me in front of partner in an obviuous F.P. situation.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: welllll maybe not:)|pg|| nt|lc: So, double-dummy, we are told, 10 tricks for E-W in @S.|pg|| nt|lc: But, we should try not to get too carried away by "looking at all 4 hands."|pg|| nt|hanayama: 嫮偄曽偺俽儕乕僪傪偟偰丄俽偑懯栚側傜偽丄俫偺 儍儞僗偼愭偢摼傜傟側偄偱偟傚偆偐傜丄|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俫儕乕僪傪慖戰偡傞偺傕丄偁傝偦偆偱偟偨丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 寢壥榑偱偡偑係俽偼傗傇幹偺傛偆偱偡丅晛捠偱偼俆俢偄偗側偄偐傕|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俽偑3@C偱偼側偔丄3@d偲價僢僪偟偨偺傕惉岟丅|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes Bill and E did just that|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|lc: he sees only 8 sure tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: Much better habit to try to think about it "single dummy."|pg|| nt|ahalim: well 3NT is definitely not the contract if you're so far behind|pg|| nt|qing: now the spot light is on Shi|pg|| pc|d2|nt|lc: A @H or @D lead also fatal to the defense against 6 ..|pg|| nt|lc: So, only a @C lead would cause declarer a problem.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Versace pulls down Sementas hand so he can see the cars|pg|| nt|lc: Let's speculate on how dec would play 6@D with a @C lead ....|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: More Italian flying|pg|| nt|lc: (since any other lead lets it make) ...|pg|| nt|lc: DEclarer could decide to just take 2 red finesses -- that would fail --- |pg|| nt|lc: But, maybe instead it is better to lay down @DA ---|pg|| nt|lc: This works if @DK singleton -- as here ...|pg|| nt|lc: Or, maybe some sort of parital strip and throw-in.|pg|| nt|lc: I suggest you click over to other tables to see if 6@D played -- click "BACK" -- go to other table. (Sorry to send you away, though) :)|pg|| nt|doty: We'll have a few minutes wait while the other tables finish the round and turn in results. There are two rounds left to play (27 boards in this final session).|pg|| nt|doty: For today's tournament bulletin (prizes, standings, etc): www.thecavendish.com/2006/SUNBULL2006.pdf|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 8 min left before next round|pg|| nt|doty: Even though the boards are played 'barometer style', official scores aren't posted until the end of the session.|pg|| nt|doty: However, pairs go out into the lobby between rounds and discuss, so they usually have a fair idea of whether their own results have been good, bad, or average.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Since we've got some time, here's another famous bridge story.|pg|| nt|eyhung: This one involves Ron Andersen and Steve Sion|pg|| nt|eyhung: Now these two guys were very similar -- both gamblers|pg|| nt|eyhung: both extremely competitive, and sometimes obnoxious|pg|| nt|eyhung: Now, in the Western US, there was a player renowned for banging his head on the table|pg|| nt|eyhung: whenever the auction or play exceeded his (low) tolerance for frustration|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron knew that Steve had never seen the headbanger before|pg|| nt|eyhung: and in this combination, he saw an opportunity.|pg|| nt|eyhung: so when Ron + Steve were playing on the same Swiss team and drew the headbanger's team,|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron said , "Boy I hate playing against this guy, you play at his table!"|pg|| nt|eyhung: Steve says, "Why, what's the matter with him?"|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron : "He always bangs his head on the table when he plays against me."|pg|| nt|eyhung: Steve: "No way!"|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron: "It's the truth!"|pg|| nt|eyhung: Steve: "You are NUTS."|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron: "Look, I'll bet you $100 I am telling the truth."|pg|| nt|eyhung: Steve: "you are ON!"|pg|| nt|eyhung: So Ron heads over to the headbanger's table. After a couple of uneventful boards, Ron declares a slam, with headbanger as RHO.|pg|| nt|eyhung: The opening lead is the @DJ. The diamond suit is @DKxx in dummy, and Ron has @DQ (singleton)|pg|| nt|eyhung: Also, the trump ace is in dummy, and headbanger-RHO has the guarded king of trump|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron calls for a low diamond from dummy.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Headbanger thinks for a few seconds, and plays the ace.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron "ruffs" the ace.|pg|| nt|eyhung: ****BANG!****|pg|| nt|eyhung: The headbanger slams his head into the table.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron stands up on his chair, sticks both fingers in his mouth, and issues a shrill whistle|pg|| nt|eyhung: Then he points at his table.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Steve Sion looks up and sees Ron and the guy banging his head on the table|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron then gets off his chair, retakes his seats, and says to the table |pg|| nt|eyhung: "I'm sorry, did I play a trump? I must have revoked," and plays the @DQ|pg|| nt|eyhung: And that's how Ron won $100 off knowing his opponents.|pg|| nt|doty: :-)|pg|| nt|lc: Thanks, Eugene for the comic relief. I was scoping out 21 at the other 2 Vugraph tables to see if 6@D made ... AND ...|pg|| nt|lc: One table bid it, but opps saved in 6@S X.|pg|| nt|lc: Other table played 4@SX.|pg|| nt|lc: But, I suspect those that do play 6@D will make it -- as @C lead not likely -- and they still might make it anyway.|pg|| nt|lc: OK Eugene -- back to your comedy ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: There's actually an interesting followup to the headbanger story.|pg|| nt|eyhung: One day, Ron was telling this story (as he did to everyone he knew)|pg|| nt|eyhung: and one group of ladies seemed particularly amused.|pg|| nt|eyhung: He wandered over and asked them if they had enjoyed his story.|pg|| nt|eyhung: One of the little old ladies replied, "Well, yes, but I think I have to tell you something."|pg|| nt|eyhung: "That headbanger in your story is my son."|pg|| nt|eyhung: Ron was completely flabbergasted|pg|| nt|eyhung: and he stumbled over his words as he tried to apologize.|pg|| nt|eyhung: The old lady cut him off.|pg|| nt|eyhung: "That's all right", she said. "He does it when he plays with me too."|pg|| nt|eyhung: Happy Mother's Day everyone!|pg|| nt|lc: :) -- I didn't know that part of the story. But, the original Headbanger story I love to tell in my classes.|pg|| nt|rain: Only cool, interesting people live in the west coast eh|pg|| nt|lc: There are so many stories of the "characters" of the game from years past. I wonder if people will be talking years from now about today's top players -- surely, not as much ...|pg|| nt|lc: jocularity.|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure what this one is but it worked |pg|| nt|jwit: This contract should make on time|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Bad play?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Right, "They just bid 2@H 4@H, nothing we could do"|pg|| pc|d4|nt|liarakos: alla leo 3H me ton South|pg|| nt|lc: 4@S also has play, yes -- but not likely to reach that one.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偼偄丄杔偼@H傪儕乕僪偟偦偆偱偡丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俽偱憗偄彑晧傪寛抐偟偨傫偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|roswolf: sound lead|pg|| nt|dave_w: looks to me like declarer should have overtaken the @D9|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes|pg|| nt|gerben42: now quick 2 down|pg|| nt|othered1: or maybe not so quick|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|gerben42: dont get it|pg|| nt|gerben42: you have @SA and a lot of @D to cash|pg|| nt|gerben42: surely cant be ducking this|pg|| nt|hedyg: and a @c to ruff!|pg|| nt|qing: Lu has one too many @C and one too few @H for an endplay to work here|pg|| pc|dT|nt|Vugraph2: Sadek doesnt like it|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俤倂偑僶儖側偺偱丄俫俠俹偑俤倂侾俋亅揰偟偐側偄偼偢側偺偵丄僶儖偱係俽價僢僪偱偒傞偲偄偆偙偲偼丄|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偙偺僨傿乕儖偼僩儔儞僾偑崌寁俀侽枃偁傞偩傠偆丄偲偄偆俶偺敾抐偱丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俆俢偑僟僂儞偱傕丄係俽儊僀僋偺偙偲傕偁傞偲敾抐偟偨偺偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俶偑丄俢僔儞僌儖僩儞偺 俁揰偱丄俁俫偺僕儍儞僾儗僀僘偡傞偐偲梊憐偟傑偟偨偑丅|pg|| nt|sybarra: its only 50's |pg|| nt|reisig: not me|pg|| nt|robbg: But if I had another @d and one less card in another side suit I might be persuaded|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|lc: He would play on @D, no matter what, though -- so the lucky @C position wouldn't factor into his thinking.|pg|| nt|lc: Here is declarer's problem -- even though we see he is OK ...|pg|| nt|lc: If WEst had the same @C holding we see here, AND the @DA, covering this club would let West set up the suit.|pg|| nt|lc: So, dec is considering ducking.|pg|| nt|nakatani: SA丄俲偺屻傪4儔僂儞僪僾儗僀偟偰俫幪偰傞偱偼娫偵崌偄傑偣傫偐丠|pg|| nt|davidstern: Here we go|pg|| nt|gracelin1: you may even add : " I amost double"|pg|| pc|h4|nt|lc: Can ducking hurt ? ...|pg|| nt|gracelin1: almost|pg|| pc|hA|nt|eyhung: the fortunate club lie means that declarer is likely to take 4 club tricks -- although he won't be easily able to reach dummy to lead clubs, it's likely the defense will have to ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: break clubs at some point.|pg|| nt|lc: In a way, Schermer-Chambers got lucky here. They reached the worst game, but won't lose too much since the very bad breaks will doom most other games.|pg|| nt|lc: Time for Plan B.|pg|| nt|timty: 偙偺價僢僪偐傜偼@s偺僼傿僱僗偼柍偄偱偡偹|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俫儕乕僪偟偰傕丄傑偩丄俽偱僋僀僢僋側 儍儞僗偼偁傞偗偳丄俽儕乕僪偟偰懯栚側傜丄偍廔偄丅偲偄偆丅|pg|| pc|h7|nt|lc: If East has another @C, then the suit is 4-3 -- so no problem.|pg|| nt|lc: if East shifts, dec can knock out @D ace -- and will have enough tricks if @D not 4-1.|pg|| nt|lc: So, that is why declarer made what looks (when seeing all 4 hands) to be the strange play of not covering the @CJ.|pg|| nt|eyhung: but might as well run the long suit first.|pg|| nt|lc: So, the typical solution is to run your long suit and try to read the cards.|pg|| nt|johnp: Bu E had a small problem if 2@c was oldies natural and 3@c preemptive|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|lc: Overtricks are unimportant at this form of scoring.|pg|| nt|lc: Now what is he thinking about. Good declarers worry about bad breaks. We can all make it if @D 3-2 from this position ...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: yes and no larry. if you got 20 imps on everyhand you would win the event|pg|| nt|lc: So, Martel is thinking -- what if @D 4-1 ...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 5 min left|pg|| nt|lc: The thinking goes ... if @D 3-2, I can win @SA, cash @HKQ, and play the @DJ and another @D ...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: keeps fingering the 5 of spades |pg|| nt|lc: What can I do about it if East started with @DAQ96. (West followed with the @D8 on the first round of @D).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: now the 10|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: ace too . 2 not being considered|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: now can drive club|pg|| pc|d5|nt|lc: At most tables, South will open 1@C -- West will X, and I don't expect the auction to get above the 1-level.|pg|| nt|lc: Declarer will preumably knock out the @DA and gracefully go down 1.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 4 min warning|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: club pitch makes it interesting|pg|| nt|eyhung: as opposed to the Italian style of kicking and screaming going down 1.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: need to duck this now |pg|| nt|eyhung: Versace had a tough pitch there.|pg|| nt|lc: At times like this, I wish somebody could just tap my shoulder and say -- save your mental energy -- @D split.|pg|| nt|lc: Good result for E-W, since 4@H down (@CK, @DA, @CA, ruff).|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偙傟偼僩乕 儖僩儕僢僋揑側僨傿乕儖偲丄偦偺敾抐偺岲椺偺傛偆偵傒偊傑偡丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偱傕丄俶俽偺僴儞僪偩偗傪尒偨傜丄僾儗僀偟偨偔側偄僐儞僩儔僋僩偱偡偹丅俆偺戙偼丅|pg|| nt|jwit: 3C was a Wolff signoff bid|pg|| nt|bjacobs: West should have continued @S9|pg|| nt|dave_w: i think the Ten|pg|| nt|bjacobs: At least, not the !J|pg|| nt|gerben42: ah sorry I must be blonde, thinking about 3NT|pg|| nt|gerben42: right - that one holds for all ace asking bids|pg|| pc|d7|nt|Vugraph2: Chambers asking about carding|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: told UDCA|pg|| nt|lc: Dec thinks he can make now if North has 2@C. (Ruff this, @CA, @S finesse, @SQ, back to club and draw last trump).|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Elahmedy left the room|pg|| nt|lc: But, as we can see, dec won't be able to get back to draw the last trump, because West can ruff the 2nd round of @S.|pg|| nt|lc: Are you turning the dummy for him, Barry?|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: me???? no. i can only do so much between this and flirting with women:)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|lc: I know we see all the hands, but it seems strange to throw the likely setting trick.|pg|| nt|sybarra: agree|pg|| nt|jwit: Forced 3D by partner|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Still only 1 down even is @H9 scores|pg|| nt|davidstern: Ah thought they were in 3 - helps if us commentators look at the fine print|pg|| nt|Walddk2: if|pg|| nt|loganrun: 2 would have been more spectalular|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|lc: Couldn't West have spared a low @S and kept all his @C?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: with a king and an ace, you might attack, but here i think you have to hope both kings will score|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh oh!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: lu can clear spades but at cost of a trump trick, traded for a club trick|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Looks as if N took @DA, South ducked the 2nd spade, N got squeezed |pg|| pc|d6|nt|lc: Go now -- let me cue you -|pg|| nt|lc: Oh -- there is the cue -- to everyone --|pg|| nt|lc: Susan giving us info now ..|pg|| nt|doty: We've reached the final board of the 2006 Cavendish Pairs. Thank you for joining us for this exciting tournament!|pg|| nt|doty: During our session today we've enjoyed commentary at three tables from: Adam Wildavsky, Alexander Petrunin, Barnet Shenkin, David Birman, Drew Cannell, Eugene Hung, Haig Tchamitch, ...|pg|| nt|doty: Henri Schweitzer, Joey Silver, Larry Cohen, Luis Argerich, Ron Smith, and Steve Robinson.|pg|| nt|doty: Our tireless vugraph operators during this event were Jan Martel, Barry Goren, David Stern, and Donna Compton, who did an excellent job throughout.|pg|| nt|doty: Thanks to BBO and World Bridge Productions for making this broadcast possible.|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT. Table 1 will remain open after the last board to hear the winners.|pg|| nt|lc: And thanks again, from all of us, to you, Susan -- for all the many hours of hard work to arrange this show.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Yes, thank you, Susan, you did a great job!|pg|| nt|lc: So, this deal will cost Cohler-Weinstein who were in 3rd place with these 3 deals to go. Some E-W will be -50 in 4@H.|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偱傕@h儕乕僪偱丄@S偑懪偪敳偒偩偭偨偲偄偆偙偲傕懡偄偺偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: !K偲忋偑偭偰俆儊僀僪偐側丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am asked why a spade lead would give it. Because declarer can eliminate clubs and hearts and throw West in with a spade to lead away from @DK|pg|| pc|dK|nt|lc: Dec suspects 4-1 @S -- so I expect him to try to play as I mentioned above.|pg|| nt|lc: This might drop them a few places, but stil, a nice profit fot Cohler-Weinstein.|pg|| nt|timty: 娫偵崌偄傑偡偹|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 傕偆堦曽偺僥乕僽儖偱偼丄俤偺 僯俶俿偐傜巒傑偭偰丄俁俶俿偵側偭偨傛偆偱偡丅|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|lc: He might have sacrificed an overtrick by playing this way -- but maybe he figured out a way to cope with 4-1 @D.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: conceded last|pg|| nt|lc: yes -- he blocked the @H in order to lead that @D from dummy. |pg|| nt|sybarra: for the vugraph audience |pg|| nt|bjacobs: So the point is, West was crying out for a club return if East ruffs the spade - the way to do that is suit preference with his spade play|pg|| nt|hedyg: duck?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East worked it out anyway: missing the spade ace (no 3@S bid), slam cannot be great|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|kokojp: @@僴乕僩偼僥儞億偑偄傝偦偆偱丄僗儁乕僪偼侾侽俋偲撪梕傕媗傑偭偰偄傞偺偱丄partner偵1屄婜懸偟偰偲偄偆偺傕偁傝偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俠偑憱傜傟傞帪乮俆丄俇屄乯偵偼偁傝傑偡偹丅|pg|| pc|cK|nt|lc: OK -- time to bring out all the filler material -- probably at least 10 minutes before we get to 13 -- as all the tables have to finish 10-12 first.|pg|| nt|davidstern: E/W sold out very cheaply|pg|| nt|cuttysark: (still looking at 3NT+3!)|pg|| nt|sybarra: I think he ducked @S ace 2 x|pg|| nt|gerben42: so at least something pretty happened :)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|eyhung: now declarer can make his contract|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 俇IMP偵側傝傑偟偨丅侾俋揰嵎丅|pg|| nt|fabsayc: wasnt any obvious error though, perhaps double by west over 2@H takeout|pg|| pc|c9|nt|gracelin1: yes, and opponents are likely to hv two balanced hands|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|lc: meanwhile, E-W were in 10th entering this round. This could keep them in the money -- maybe even move them up a nothc or 2.|pg|| nt|doty: LEADERS WITH ONE ROUND TO PLAY:|pg|| nt|doty: 1 - Bertens-Bakkeren +2098|pg|| nt|doty: 2 - Hampson-Rodwell +1744|pg|| nt|doty: 3 - Cohler-Weinstein +1644|pg|| nt|doty: 4 - Cheek-Grue +1432|pg|| nt|doty: 5 - Fleisher-Martel +1362|pg|| nt|doty: 6 - Jacobs-Katz +1361|pg|| nt|doty: 7 - Nagy-Richman +1358|pg|| nt|doty: 8 - Levin-Weinstein +1337|pg|| nt|doty: 9 - Sementa-Versace +1280|pg|| nt|doty: 10 - Brogeland-Del'Monte +1226|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT|pg|| nt|doty: |pg|| nt|doty: We will keep a table open to announce the leaders, but we may have a bit of a wait after the session.|pg|| nt|lc: I'm told very few reaching 4@H on 27. Almost all 3NT -- makes sense, I suppose.|pg|| nt|lc: And, on 25, where we saw N-S down in misfit 3NT, some N-S pairs made 4@S in the 6-1 fit.|pg|| nt|lc: So, maybe Cohler-Weinstein will actually slip a little this round.|pg|| nt|lc: For E-W, to see if the are in the top 10 (and where, if so) is a nervous wait. Big money swing -- as there is money not just from the auction pool, but the players pool.|pg|| nt|haig: Hampson and Rodwell did not have a good last set either..|pg|| nt|lc: Well -- that's it for me. Thanks everyone for watching. And thank you to my fellow commentator, Eugene Hung.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Thanks Larry -- it's always a pleasure to collaborate with you.|pg|| nt|doty: We've reached the end of play at this table, and are coming to the close of the 2006 Cavendish pairs.|pg|| nt|doty: We will be announcing the winners at the other vugraph table as soon as possible|pg|| nt|doty: LEADERS WITH ONE ROUND TO PLAY:|pg|| nt|doty: 1 - Bertens-Bakkeren +2098|pg|| nt|doty: 2 - Hampson-Rodwell +1744|pg|| nt|doty: 3 - Cohler-Weinstein +1644|pg|| nt|doty: 4 - Cheek-Grue +1432|pg|| nt|doty: 5 - Fleisher-Martel +1362|pg|| nt|doty: 6 - Jacobs-Katz +1361|pg|| nt|doty: 7 - Nagy-Richman +1358|pg|| nt|doty: 8 - Levin-Weinstein +1337|pg|| nt|doty: 9 - Sementa-Versace +1280|pg|| nt|doty: 10 - Brogeland-Del'Monte +1226|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT|pg|| nt|doty: |pg|| nt|doty: Play in the 2006 Cavendish Pairs has completed. We're now waiting to hear who won. :-)|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Dutch won Rodwell second|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Congrats to Berten and Bakkeren of the Netherlands . Rookie Winners. That is really tuff to do|pg|| nt|doty: FINAL STANDINGS IN THE 2006 CAVENDISH PAIRS (provisional):|pg|| nt|doty: 1 - Bertens-Bakkeren +2131|pg|| nt|doty: 2 - Hampson-Rodwell +1629|pg|| nt|doty: 3 - Cohler-Weinstein +1623|pg|| nt|doty: 4 - Versace-Sementa +1606 ** appeal could move them down|pg|| nt|doty: 5 - Cheek-Grue +1399|pg|| nt|doty: 6 - Nagy-Richman +1366|pg|| nt|doty: 7 - Fleisher-Martel +1347|pg|| nt|doty: 8 - Jacobs-Katz +1301|pg|| nt|doty: 9 - Brogeland-Del'Monte +1251|pg|| nt|doty: 10 - Levin-Weinstein +1229|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT|pg|| nt|doty: |pg|| nt|doty: FINAL STANDINGS IN THE 2006 CAVENDISH PAIRS (provisional):|pg|| nt|doty: 1 - Bertens-Bakkeren +2131|pg|| nt|doty: 2 - Hampson-Rodwell +1629|pg|| nt|doty: 3 - Cohler-Weinstein +1623|pg|| nt|doty: 4 - Versace-Sementa +1606 ** appeal could move them down|pg|| nt|doty: 5 - Cheek-Grue +1399|pg|| nt|doty: 6 - Nagy-Richman +1366|pg|| nt|doty: 7 - Fleisher-Martel +1347|pg|| nt|doty: 8 - Jacobs-Katz +1301|pg|| nt|doty: 9 - Brogeland-Del'Monte +1251|pg|| nt|doty: 10 - Levin-Weinstein +1229|pg|| nt|doty: Complete final standings will be posted after the session at: www.thecavendish.com/2006/PAIRS5O.TXT|pg|| nt|doty: |pg|| pc|c3|nt|lc: Now, his hopes are up. North could easily be, say 4=5=2=2.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|hanayama: 偼偄丅丂@擇恖偩偗側傜偽丄惷偐側俁俢偩偭偨偱偟傚偆偹丅|pg|| pc|h9|nt|davidstern: I would have doubled 2@H for takeout we certainly have a fit somewhere|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|hanayama: 擸傑偟偄倂偺僴儞僪偱偡丅丂@|pg|| pc|hK|nt|lc: Alas -- nothing he could have done on the actual layout.|pg|| nt|lc: I expect all tables to reach at least 4@S E-W. Then it is a question of whether contract is 4@S, 5@H , or 5@S.|pg|| nt|lc: It seems like each contract will likely make 10 tricks.|pg|| nt|lc: So, the big money goes to E-W pairs that buy it in 4@S and make it.|pg|| nt|lc: The big money N-S goes to those that push them to 5@S and beat it (I doubt any N-S will get to buy it in 4@H making)|pg|| nt|eyhung: After reading your books, Larry, I doubt it. |pg|| nt|lc: My guess for the "mode" is 5@H X down 1 -- 100 to E-W.|pg|| nt|lc: thanks for the plug, Eugene ...|pg|| nt|eyhung: I've often seen some amazing calls made in honor of the principle -- when in doubt, bid 4@S over 4@H|pg|| nt|lc: Eugene -- you are a math wiz -- so let's make sure that the mode is the "most common result." -- right?|pg|| nt|eyhung: That's right. |pg|| nt|henryb: At the 3 vg tables. one is in 5HX. one in 5@c and this one|pg|| nt|lc: Oopps -- 4@H off 4 aces -- |pg|| nt|lc: Getting weary here, I'd say.|pg|| nt|lc: So, let's change that mode to 5@H X -2. 300 for E-W|pg|| nt|lc: Thanks Henry. So, no mode established yet.|pg|| nt|henryb: 5@c is cold with the @s guess|pg|| nt|lc: Do you have to guess @S? THrow one on @HA?|pg|| nt|lc: I'm told someone went down in 5@C by double-hooking the @C.|pg|| nt|lc: Lost a @C trick -- no doubt based on the auction.|pg|| nt|eyhung: That shows the courage that is often necessary to play at these high levels. Most players wouldn't dare try that for fear of looking stupid.|pg|| nt|eyhung: or worse, for fear of partner hissing italian at them.|pg|| nt|lc: Even worse -- I know who it was heh-heh.|pg|| nt|eyhung: Apparently a kibitzer tells me it was Berkowitz's partner.|pg|| nt|lc: I was sworn not to tell -- but I suppose you weren't :)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|Vugraph2: I guess you shouldnt dbl!!|pg|| nt|eyhung: this was a very complicated hand -- essentially the clubs were a "frozen" suit|pg|| nt|eyhung: with declarer unable to lead clubs from dummy, whichever side was stuck on lead in the endgame would have to lead clubs|pg|| nt|eyhung: and blow a trick for their side|pg|| nt|eyhung: near the end, when South was in with diamond ace, he could have returned a spade or a heart.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: The Late John Lowenthal of NY had a theory about dbling when the auction goes 2nt pass pass . This worked out quite well tillm he came across the late Larry Edwards who passed 2nt ...|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: and when it went dbl pass pass to him , he rdbled and tabled a balanced 12 count|pg|| pc|s3|nt|npcjpn: 俤偼帺暘偺@C10傪僷乕僩僫乕偵搉偟偨偄偵堘偄側偄丅|pg|| nt|othered1: And no other way to show a strong club hand on either of the first two rounds? Must get a lot back from their system on other types of hands.|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: 27 boards today|pg|| nt|lc: For more about opening 1NT or the 5-card major : http://www.larryco.com/BG%20articles/A041NT%20w%205-car%20Maj.htm|pg|| nt|lc: Once Martel threw @S, dec was safe to set up the @C for 9th trick -- didn't need @H finesse.|pg|| nt|lc: So, 2 normalish results this round and one H-U-G-E swing to Bertens-Bakkeren -- who if they are having a decent session, could easily win the event.|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: Versace Sementa coming to play the Dutch|pg|| nt|lc: Are there a lot of Dutch specs out there? Try to stay awake another few hours ... work Monday morning?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|lc: Maybe he figured this all out (that if partner had @DA he could effectively hold it up anyway). Complex.|pg|| nt|hanayama: 僥乕僽儖偺壓偐傜丅丅|pg|| nt|timty: 10|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SK9863HKT875DKCKJ,SA7HAJ42DA842C762,S542H9DJ653CQ9854,SQJTHQ63DQT97CAT3|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQJ3H75D986CQ8743,S872HAJTDQ543CT92,SKT965HKQ864DKCAK,SA4H932DAJT72CJ65|sv|b|nt|timty: 偝偡偑偵僕儍僗僩儊僀僋偱偟傚偆|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偆偐丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: K偼傑偢偄丅4@s偑偱偒偰偟傑偆偐傜丅|pg|| nt|qing: surprisingly Wu did not explored the chance that Zhu has doubleton @SK|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|hedyg: only hope was to duck and E doesnt ruff|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Right|pg|| nt|sybarra: for "communications" |pg|| nt|othered1: A lot depends on how aggressively you get into auctions with shortness in preempter's suit|pg|| nt|hedyg: found Q@c|pg|| nt|robbg: or squeeze|pg|| nt|gracelin1: time for South to say : " I will double , too"|pg|| mb|1D|nt|npcjpn: 崱偺偼俈儊僀僪偱偼側偔丄係儊僀僪偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|timty: 侾侽偱傕嶌傜傟偦偆|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偦偆偱偟偨偹丅|pg|| nt|davidstern: Easy 3NT but best by South|pg|| nt|roswolf: female intuition?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is a 3NT even I might be able to make at 7 am|pg|| mb|d|nt|bjacobs: So, looks like Precision N/S|pg|| mb|p|nt|nakatani: 僩乕 儖億僀儞僩偱寛拝偮偗傞偺偩偗偼姩曎偟偰偹|pg|| nt|fabsayc: shi was smiling too much for that to work :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If I can count to 9 that is|pg|| nt|sybarra: does west come in?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|hanayama: @s|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 6@c傕6@d|pg|| nt|timty: 偙偪傜偼俁NT偵側傝偦偆|pg|| nt|davidstern: I suggest a cup of coffee on this one just in case there is something better on the horizon. Coke Roland?|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: might end up in 4@H|pg|| nt|Walddk2: diet, yes please|pg|| nt|roswolf: true always a challenge roland|pg|| nt|bjacobs: West???|pg|| nt|sybarra: guess not |pg|| nt|sybarra: east I meant |pg|| nt|gerben42: east would be more likely|pg|| nt|fabsayc: both majors, double better than 1nt overcall|pg|| mb|2H|nt|npcjpn: 偙傟偑2@s偲偼丄傛傎偳寉偄僗 僀儖側偺偐丅|pg|| nt|timty: 儖 傪巊偭偰偄傞恖偼寉偄偙偲偑懡偄偱偡偹|pg|| nt|othered1: 2@C?|pg|| nt|vugraph191: starting of escape|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East???? :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolol|pg|| mb|p|nt|npcjpn: 俽偼僟僽儖偱偼側偔丄1@d偱偡偐丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 傕僐乕儖僪偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僾儗僀僆僼偱偼側偔丄僩乕 儖億僀儞僩偱偡偐丠|pg|| nt|gracelin1: women's instinct tells her to play drop|pg|| nt|qing: well I may manage to go down only 1 on a good day on @H lead from Kxx|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 6@C is good contract though, but probably down|pg|| nt|qing: if played by N|pg|| nt|Walddk2: David Stern is suggesting 6@C|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Much too complicated for me at this hour|pg|| nt|sybarra: we have seen them bid on "less"|pg|| nt|reisig: XX usually forces 2@c|pg|| nt|hedyg: XX= i have a suit to play in?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this looks like a routine game only the overtrick in doubt |pg|| nt|Walddk2: What do you play after winning @DA, spade or club?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Look at the EW cards only |pg|| nt|bjacobs: spade feels right|pg|| nt|loganrun: duck a club - spade guess for 1NT|pg|| nt|dave_w: i think a spade|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed but 6@C is certainly a good spot on this layout|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Life expectancy not great bidding with that East hand, vul, opposite a passed partner|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hanayama: 摿偵偙偺倂偼丄旕忢偵寉偄傜偟偄丄偲偺忣曬偁傝丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僶儖側傜俀俶俿偲偐尵偭偰偟傑偄偦偆偩偗偳丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 僉僔 儉偺傛偆側僴儞僪偼1@s側偺偱偟傚偆偹丅|pg|| nt|henryb: The way I play X, you should pass with either S or W hand|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Mane use 2NT as a relay on this auction|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 如果是,那么这个3NT就是11-13HCP的均型,如果1NT=14-16的话 meaning that NS in the open room play 11-13 NV, 14-16 V, so Wang YW upgraaded his hand there|pg|| pc|sA|nt|timty: @D偺撪梕偑椙偄偐傜侾@D偵偟偨偺偱偟傚偆|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 4@h偑偱偒偦偆偱偡偑丄價僢僪偡傞偺偼柍棟偐丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 幚愴偱偟偐楙廗偱偒側偄偟<崱擔偺儌僯 偼俛俛俷偼弶懱尡偱偡丂@偲偵偐偔恖庤晄懌偱偡|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c accepts, any other bid= i have my own suit|pg|| nt|reisig: I use XX as ..I want to play in 2@c ..or ..have 2 places to play|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And the reward is a partscore swing|pg|| pc|s6|nt|othered1: Me, too.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Either black suit could be 3-3 - spades seems to have more possibilities|pg|| nt|dave_w: ducking the club still needs you to get spades right ..|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oh well|pg|| nt|sybarra: ugh|pg|| nt|dave_w: i wondered if that continuation might happen|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The @D10 was an unexpected trick one must say|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this looks suspiciously like NS play precision|pg|| nt|roswolf: but the lady makes the standard man's bid!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: else not sure how south can afford to start with 1nt|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偦傟偱傕僟僽儖傪慖傇恖偑懡偦偆偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 2@d偺屻丄3@s偺僗僾儕儞 乕偼側偄偱偟傚偆偐丅|pg|| nt|ahalim: that's fairly standard|pg|| nt|johnp: one of my horses )as Geoffrey use to say): the weaker I am, the sooner I bid pass here|pg|| nt|othered1: That's if the double is strictly a power hand|pg|| nt|johnp: yes|pg|| nt|ahalim: well that's the problem - the range of the double|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Some use 2@S when hearts are agreed|pg|| nt|gracelin1: yes, in case Shi raised on 3|pg|| nt|davidstern: Done |pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the closed room North opened a 15-17 1NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: North did not have that option here|pg|| nt|davidstern: Might still be OK here|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: not if North makes another move|pg|| nt|hedyg: even @h lead doesnt beat 4@h|pg|| pc|hK|nt|npcjpn: 晛捠偺恖偺丅|pg|| nt|jwit: Two levels too high|pg|| nt|hedyg: ruff 1@c and lose 1@s 1@d and 1@c|pg|| nt|gerben42: sure, still ruff a @C|pg|| nt|hedyg: as long as @cs are no worse than 4-2 you are ok|pg|| nt|hedyg: he went there all alone in the other room:)|pg|| nt|gerben42: well the hand allows it|pg|| pc|h2|nt|timty: S偼3@H偲偡偖尵偆偺傕偁偭偨偺偱偼丠|pg|| nt|hanayama: 3S|pg|| nt|hanayama: NO|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2 working finesses|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Got to like those diamonds|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Walddk2: He can survive the 5-0 trump break in 4|pg|| nt|davidstern: I am backing declarer |pg|| nt|Walddk2: But it will take him a while once he discovers the diabolical split|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3nt anybody?, by south virtually cold|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 6 IMPs most likely|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偼偄丅偱傕俶偑4@H偲忔傞偐偳偆偐偼 栤丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 幐楃偟傑偟偨丅丂@俁俽偺僗僾儕儞 乕偼揟 揑偵尒偊傑偡丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 偦偆偱偡丄僩乕 儖億僀儞僩偑摨偠側傜俀 乕僪偺僾儗僀僆僼乮僩乕 儖億僀儞僩偱乯|pg|| nt|dave_w: @C4-3-2-8 s the next trick?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And now we will never know how declarer would have answered Roland's interesting question|pg|| nt|dave_w: close ...|pg|| nt|sybarra: now playing for @C 4333 |pg|| nt|gerben42: 4 losers and vuln.|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes they are certainly worth another point|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes good upgrade|pg|| nt|robbg: I use xx as "game if you make it partner"|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|timty: 愭傎偳偺 乕僪棤偼俁NT傪儊僀僋|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: might need both the minor finesses? could go down if he tries to ruff the club too early|pg|| pc|hT|nt|hanayama: 傢偨偟偩偲丄俀俠偵俁俫僗僾儕儞 乕傕岓曗偱偡偹丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱傕丄偙偺岦偐偄崌傢偣偱丄俇俢丄俇俠偼昁偢價僢僪偝傟傞偙偲偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The risk of a 5-0 break (a priori) is roughly 4%|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: I'll back declarer too.. but will take quite a while|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Some would claim 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| pc|h6|nt|othered1: But I pass with west hand, even if partner hasn't shown more than a "solidly equal" hand. They haven't redoubled yet.|pg|| nt|othered1: Declarer knows where the high cards are and shoud have no problems making|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hanayama: 丠丂@丂@俆俠丂@僷僗丄丄丄丄丅|pg|| nt|davidstern: low best|pg|| nt|gerben42: surely you are going to give it a try|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There really should be a commentator claim button|pg|| nt|hedyg: hard to read 5@h|pg|| pc|h8|nt|npcjpn: 俁斣偼侾俶俿,2@s,DBL,3@c,3@s,P,P偺屻丄俽偑俁俶俿偲婃挘偭偰丄@H儕乕僪偱偼側偄偺偱丄俆儊僀僪丅|pg|| nt|henryb: Only the @dJ is in question|pg|| nt|roswolf: in the other room south bid 3nt after a 3@C rebid which is very stolid imo|pg|| nt|fabsayc: can duck a spade, then if they dont cash you have chances for 2 over tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: i use it just for @c|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|timty: 偡偖偵@S傪偝傢傞偐側|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 棤偺僥乕僽儖偱偼丄俽偑僟僽儖丄倂偺1@s偵俶偑3@H偲僕儍儞僾偟偰廔傢傝丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 寢嬊丄俽偐傜偼丄俶偺俫僔儞僌儖僩儞僐儞僩儘乕儖偑尒偊側偄傫偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|othered1: Another very aggressive contract. West's hand looks light to me, if that were a Drury, a bit too quacky.|pg|| nt|davidstern: East may think part has QT9x|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They will have a long break after the quarter-finals. The semi-finals are scheduled to start in 3 hours and 20 minutes|pg|| nt|dave_w: now that you have an extra diamond trick ducking a club gives you more options (club break or spade guess)|pg|| nt|gracelin1: how was 1NT going down at other table? did he has 7 tricks by knocking out HA?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|hanayama: 側傫偐偟偭偔傝偟側偄僆乕僋僔儑儞偱偡丅|pg|| nt|vugraph191: S can have a king, since N can be 11|pg|| nt|vugraph191: n, srry|pg|| nt|hedyg: dummy is a help though|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolol|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|kokojp: @@2C偵傾儔乕僩偑偱偰偄傞偺偱僫 儏儔儖偱偼側偝偦偆偱偡偑丄僔僗僥儉傪挷傋側偄偲傢偐傝傑偣傫偹丅|pg|| nt|othered1: I like xx (with strong NT) to say "they've made a mistake"|pg|| nt|reisig: Then -- Robb leaves the table:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: to each his own:)|pg|| pc|c7|nt|npcjpn: 崱偺撪偵丄俁僙僢僔儑儞暘寁嶼偟偰偍偄偨傜丠|pg|| nt|jwit: I have some sympathy for the Drury bidder, though a little on the light side, especially with only three trumps and secondary values. Will pay for aggresiveness on this hand|pg|| nt|othered1: and another spade will force north to give the lead to dummy. |pg|| pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: This is the last QF segment of 12 boards|pg|| nt|fabsayc: as usual 10/9=0 or 2 higher easier for defense|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: actually i doubt as a defender you will return a @D from QT9x|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The venue is the Taichang City Stadium in the Jiangsu province, hosting a total of 8 tournaments this week. It's 3.10 pm Tuesday local time now|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: various ways to make from here.. the easiest is prob to play a @S to the 8 |pg|| nt|davidstern: Club and second club is OK|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: since the T is 'marked' on the opening lead|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: on the first trick, i mean|pg|| nt|davidstern: Assuming West pitches ruff a club|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is it?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Some lead 4th from any holding. I do with some partners|pg|| nt|bridgeboy: oops.. sorry.. i missed declarer plyed the J.. |pg|| nt|davidstern: I think that West not returning a spade marks him the with Ace and the low spade from Eats suggests the ten|pg|| nt|davidstern: I dont think there is a way to fail from here|pg|| pc|cA|nt|npcjpn: 僆乕僾儞儖乕儉偺寢壥偺偲偙傠偵 僂僗傪帩偭偰偄偔偲丄價僢僪宱夁偑尒傜傟傑偡丅|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|timty: 1枃愗傜傟偰傕3@H側傜偦偺曽偑埨慡偦偆|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱偡偹丅丂@恖偺夛榖偱偡偐傜丄 恖払偵偟偐敾傜側偄晹暘偑偁傝傑偡偐傜偹丅|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is this right???|pg|| nt|qing: no this can't be true|pg|| nt|roswolf: hopefully not|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2 segments of 12 boards in the quarter-finals. The second segment will start after a short break (in 45 minutes). Later today we will be showing the 2 semi-final segments|pg|| nt|fabsayc: very true, 1nt was cold|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He won the club lead and took a spade finesse. Curtains|pg|| nt|fabsayc: maybe won club lead and spade hook|pg|| nt|gracelin1: very strenge not knocking out HA to ensure 7 tricks at 1NT|pg|| mc|9|nt|hanayama: 俁俶偱偟偨偐丅丂@偦偟偰丄俽儕乕僪偹丅丂@丂@|pg|| nt|hedyg: i am for sure! i'm a sucker for these hands|pg|| nt|robbg: lol|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SQJ3H75D986CQ8743,S872HAJTDQ543CT92,SKT965HKQ864DKCAK,SA4H932DAJT72CJ65|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT95HAK76DT75CA2,SKQ82HQJ2DK3CT953,S3HT98543DJ4CK864,SJ764HDAQ9862CQJ7|sv|n|nt|hanayama: 俽偺係俢偵俶偺俆俠偑僉乕僇乕僪儗僗億儞僗偵側偭偰偄傞偺偱偟傚偆偑丄|pg|| nt|hanayama: @@|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 2@c偼偝偡偑偵僫 儏儔儖偱偼丅偒偭偲FG偲偄偆偙偲偩偲巚偆偺偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俽偐傜偼丄俫僔儞僌儖僩儞偑尒偊側偐偭偨丄偲偄偆偙偲偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偱傕丄忣偗側偄價僢僪偱偟偨丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 傑偢柍懯側嶌嬈偱偟傚偆|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偼偄丅忕択偱偟偨丅|pg|| nt|sybarra: and best everyone consider part scores on this hand |pg|| nt|othered1: THis hand won't be pushed to game.|pg|| nt|jwit: No. Auction likely 1S 2NT 3S all pass. Still probably too high|pg|| nt|johnp: Board 3 - 6@c in OR|pg|| nt|sybarra: and the finale had was? game, slam partscore?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@S in one room, 3@D in the other|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Find @DQ and make 4@S. Declarer got it wrong at the other table|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@S was a lucky make as far as I recall|pg|| nt|gerben42: close to 6@C here, bid in closed|pg|| nt|hedyg: can buy the hand in 2@h|pg|| mb|1N|nt|npcjpn: 偙傟傕係儊僀僪偺娫堘偄偱偡丅嵶偐偄IMP偼娫堘偭偰偄傑偡丅偙偺儔僂儞僪偑廔椆屻偵丄惓偟偄僗僐傾偵掶惓偝傟傑偡丅|pg|| nt|kokojp: @@NAT側傜3H偑暘傝傗偡偐偭偨偱偡偹|pg|| nt|npcjpn: EW偵偼5@c偑偱偒傑偡偑丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 偙傟偼崙嵺揑偵俁俶俿偵側傝偦偆偱偡偑丄僾儗僀偵偼僎僗偑丅|pg|| nt|loganrun: what is the panel's opening on N?|pg|| nt|gerben42: will North let him?|pg|| nt|gerben42: typical balancing X situation|pg|| mb|p|nt|jwit: So much for that lol|pg|| nt|othered1: -50 IMPs with 12 hands to go may dictate a change in strategy.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: So is this - North has no spades to lead|pg|| nt|sybarra: must say the bidding in other room was "scientific" |pg|| nt|bjacobs: If no Namyats, I will go along with 4@C|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Not a great slam, this - possible gain for Shanghai|pg|| nt|othered1: 6@C is an aggressive spot and doesn't seem to be makable as cards lie|pg|| nt|hedyg: need A@s in N or working @H finesse|pg|| nt|gerben42: not or, AND|pg|| nt|hedyg: not that bad|pg|| nt|cuttysark: And some good breaks....|pg|| nt|qing: this is short match (32 boards) so every imp may count, but I recall meckstroth once said that when u look at a match that lost by 1imp|pg|| nt|cuttysark: West must raise, surely|pg|| nt|robbg: If that 2@s is weak, it is awfully big for the vulnerability|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|hanayama: 倂偐傜俠價僢僪偟偰偒偨傜丄俤偼俆俠丄帪偵俇俠傑偱偮偒偁偄偦偆側丅|pg|| nt|hanayama: 俶偺侾俽偵僥僀僋傾僂僩僟僽儖傪偡傞偺偼丄偳偆偱偡偐丠丂@|pg|| nt|hanayama: 偦偙傑偱敀擬偡傞偲偄偄偱偡偗偳偹丅|pg|| nt|nakatani: 偩傫偩傫偄傗側梊姶偑丏丏丏|pg|| nt|henryb: some 2@h bid!|pg|| nt|gracelin1: 6C shud be on|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php for full schedule |pg|| nt|qing: the NS in other room must have some sweat, going down in 2 slams|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 6 nt needs the @H J to be well placed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You could play rev Namyats and still open 4@C Bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm a near slam hand but probably against the odds even for roland!|pg|| nt|qing: u did not lose the match for that overtrick, but lost on bigger swings|pg|| nt|robbg: E-W are a @d ruff away from being cold for 4@s|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have found that their weak 2s are soild|pg|| nt|othered1: Tough to find that ruff|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: Interestng reopening. If it implies spades (Landy-like), may keep NS out.|pg|| nt|jwit: Shows majors|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Pardon?|pg|| nt|hedyg: K@d is a useless card|pg|| nt|gerben42: however if @S are 3 - 3 you may discard a @H|pg|| nt|gerben42: so a bit better than 25%|pg|| nt|hedyg: if A@s is right|pg|| nt|hedyg: so you try @s first and when that doesnt work..|pg|| nt|dburn: and if hearts are 3-3 onside (or South has the doubleton ten) you could discard a spade|pg|| nt|sybarra: 3 @H by west (as in closed room) keeps the kids off the street so to say |pg|| mb|3D|nt|hanayama: 俀俶傛傝偼偄偄偱偟傚偆丅|pg|| nt|npcjpn: 岲傒偺栤戣偱偡偑丅|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, in the closed room 5NT asked North to pick a slam. He didn't choose the right strain|pg|| nt|gracelin1: the last one is probably ok but this figures to be a minus position|pg|| nt|davidstern: Ladies at my club would get it right play the jack when it isnt covered finesse the other way|pg|| nt|robbg: This one would be too good for Goren|pg|| nt|reisig: I like 1@h 2@s as intermediate|pg|| nt|gracelin1: NS bid to 5H at other table as a sacrifice over an unmakeable 5D|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Let 3NT be the strong H or S hand|pg|| nt|dave_w: I like 4@C. Infact I like 4m preempts so much that I don't like to play Namyats|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Popular treatment|pg|| nt|sybarra: 6 @H may not be so ea