vg|Norwegian Teams Ch_ships,Round 4B,I,17,48,Kristiansand,36,Heimdal,58|
rs|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,4SN-2,4SN=,5DS-1,5DSx-1,5DW=,5DW=,3DS=,2SE-2,3HS+1,4HN=,5CS=,3NN=,4SN+1,4SN+1,3SE+3,4SE+1,2CSx-1,2SE+1,3NN-1,3NS+3,2SE+1,3SE=,1NS+2,3NN=,2HW+1,3NE-1,3NS=,4SN=,5SN=,6SN-1,3NN+1,3NN+2|
pn|R.Mæsel,Helgemo,H.Mæsel,Helness,Furunes,Høiland,Austberg,Kvangraven|pg||
qx|o33|st||md|3SKQ74HKT96DA3CA98,S9HJ743DK842CT632,SJT63HQ8DJ5CKQJ74,SA852HA52DQT976C5|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Our operator is Jorunn Olsen. Welcome back to you|pg||
nt|ahalim: seems a routine 4@s|pg||
nt|vugraph175: ty roland;-))|pg||
nt|jtr: some complications here maybe on a @d lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: just grab a @h trick early though|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahalim: yes because of the 4-1 trump split|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dburn: surprising that West at the other table took no action after East's 1@d opening was doubled by South|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|dburn: but perhaps the opening could have been a short suit|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|jtr: This is not so easy at all|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|dburn: Helness has found the best lead - when you have trump length, lead a long side suit to try to tap declarer|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jtr: @h now can lead to @c ruff|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|dburn: although Anders Wirgren wrote a long article suggesting that you should lead your singleton anyway|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|jtr: I must hasten to read it...|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|dburn: I'm not sure what declarer is supposed to do here - can he actually make this?|pg||
nt|jtr: Now a @c|pg||
nt|jtr: or @d @d even|pg||
nt|kskov: Think he is doomed now|pg||
nt|jtr: as DB42 pointed out, it could probably always be defeated|pg||
nt|dburn: simplest appears to be for East to lead his club, win @sA, lead a diamond to West's king, and get a club ruff|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d8|nt|dburn: or, the defence can play two rounds of diamonds, giving a ruff and discard|pg||
nt|jtr: Helgemo was there  Like lightening too|pg||
nt|ahalim: this is more elegant defense|pg||
nt|kskov: not so primitive :-)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|dQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|jtr: If East has 2 @cs he would be ok with the @h finesse too|pg||
nt|jtr: maybe no @h finesse actually|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|jtr: So this defence got an extra trick for its elegance|pg||
nt|dburn: this looks like two down|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm  is the link to the official web site with much useful info, results and player profiles + photos|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c33|st||md|3SKQ74HKT96DA3CA98,S9HJ743DK842CT632,SJT63HQ8DJ5CKQJ74,SA852HA52DQT976C5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o34|st||md|4S6H876DAKJ9852CJ5,SQ9753HJTDQT76C73,SAT4HAK32D4CAQ842,SKJ82HQ954D3CKT96|sv|n|nt|dburn: worth an extra IMP|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jtr: East found a 1@c opening at the other table|pg||
nt|jtr: From where he found it i dont know|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Was a wee bit light|pg||
nt|kskov: They open extremely light|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No games makes for NS|pg||
nt|Walddk2: game|pg||
nt|kskov: a diciplined pass from N?|pg||
nt|ahalim: easy david he found it from his bidding-box :))|pg||
mb|5D|nt|jtr: ah!:-)|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But no double|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: sensible enough 5@d raise though|pg||
mb|p|pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Didn't take Helgemo long to lead from his longest suit|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Often the correct attack when you have trump length|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|jtr: Talking about Roland slams by the way|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg||
nt|skjaeran: This wld be a Roland grand slam:-)|pg||
nt|kskov: 3 imps for Kristiansand, Høiland doubled in closed|pg||
nt|jtr: lol|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Would I have made it?|pg||
nt|kskov: maybe with 3 revokes|pg||
nt|skjaeran: If you cld rearrange the EW cards - YES!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would. I just ask the opponents to revoke twice|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Just exchange @DQ for @CK|pg||
nt|jtr: 5@d was certainly unlucky|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Did Helness go for a smoke already, Jorunn?|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c34|st||md|4S6H876DAKJ9852CJ5,SQ9753HJTDQT76C73,SAT4HAK32D4CAQ842,SKJ82HQ954D3CKT96|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|mc|10|pg||
qx|o35|st||md|1S743HAQ65D3CQT653,SKQ986HKJ9DAKT7C7,SA52HT8432D92CK94,SJTH7DQJ8654CAJ82|sv|e|nt|jtr: But why did declarer throw a @c on the 3rd @d?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: Well done by Kvangraven - Høiland in the closed room. 5@D is top spot ... or 4@S if you like, but not 3NT|pg||
nt|jtr: Should investigate 6@d even|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: @hA instead of KJ|pg||
mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: THis won't take long|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|jtr: Nö|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c35|st||md|1S743HAQ65D3CQT653,SKQ986HKJ9DAKT7C7,SA52HT8432D92CK94,SJTH7DQJ8654CAJ82|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o36|st||md|2SA6H76DQJ8743CA53,SK97HAJ4DKT2CQ962,SQT2HKQT92DACT874,SJ8543H853D965CKJ|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|nt|jtr: support X|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Same auction as in the closed room|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Until 3@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|jtr: I would X rather than 2@d as South i think|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jtr: Cards lie reasonably well for this|pg||
nt|jtr: Although an odd view at trick one|pg||
nt|kskov: might go down now|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Yes, since Helness was marked with a @C honour.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to our boss, Fred Gitelman from USA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hi Fred|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Hi Fred!|pg||
nt|fred: Hi Roland, but as far as vugraph goes - you are the boss :)|pg||
nt|jtr: Good day Fred  Welcome to BBO:-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
nt|fred: hi all|pg||
nt|ahalim: hi fred|pg||
nt|vugraph175: geir is thining|pg||
nt|fred: a real treat to Helgemo-Helness in action again today - their bridge is always a pleasure to watch|pg||
nt|ahalim: is this Helgemo thinking ?|pg||
nt|jtr: I think he can restrict himself to a loser in each suit although that @d9 may come into play|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|jtr: May need to finesse 10 here if helgemo ducks|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: Helge and Roald Mæsel are brothers and have been a regular partnership for decades|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, he's in better shape now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I believe that they also represented Norway many years ago|pg||
nt|jtr: Yes, soft defence this time|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c5|nt|dburn: and may even make an overtrick|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dA|nt|skjaeran: Bronze madalists at Wiesbaden 1983 European Teams Ch.ships|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg||
nt|jtr: Nope trump promotion soon|pg||
nt|dburn: although the defence can probably score a couple of diamond tricks now|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c36|st||md|2SA6H76DQJ8743CA53,SK97HAJ4DKT2CQ962,SQT2HKQT92DACT874,SJ8543H853D965CKJ|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o37|st||md|3S983HAKQJ5DA32CA8,ST76HT32D76CKQ632,S54H9874DQJT4CJT5,SAKQJ2H6DK985C974|sv|n|nt|fred: Helgemo is one of the rare prodigies in bridge. Every generation there are only a couple of players born with his skills. He is truly brilliant.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|dburn: this isn't a bad result for North-South|pg||
nt|jtr: 'delayed game raise' at the other table|pg||
nt|fred: Helness is not quite as famous and he is a different type of player - more steady in nature. He is no less effective at the table than his brilliant partner in my view|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: since 4@s East-West is not an expensive sacrifice|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: It's hard to say who is the stronges player of the two.|pg||
nt|jtr: South will like his xxx@s|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, without a diamond lead or early diamond switch, 4@s might even make|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe we could say that Helgemo is the more imaginative, Helness the rock solid type of player|pg||
nt|fred: North doesn't have much, but his minor suit honors look like their will be good for finessing purposes and finesses through opening bidder rate to work|pg||
nt|dburn: ...although even that...|pg||
nt|ahalim: I agree with you Roland|pg||
nt|fred: so despite having only 4 HCP, he has a problem here|pg||
nt|kskov: 4@s makes, doesnt it?, N will not be on lead|pg||
nt|jtr: I would look at the vulnerability and bid 4|pg||
nt|dburn: he probably owes his partner a raise - this is a strongish sequence by South|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Only 2 discards on @C's|pg||
pc|s6|nt|dburn: and North can think of his cards as worth about a trick and a half|pg||
nt|fred: I think a good general principle on auctions like this is...|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|fred: If all you need to make game is 1 useful card and a decent trump fit, you can bid game yourself|pg||
nt|fred: putting too much pressure on partner if all you need for game is the right Queen and, say, xxx of trumps|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|sA|pg||
nt|fred: so North should think "do I have more than that?" and raise to 4@H if the answer is yes|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s5|nt|skjaeran: But holding 4 trumps, a doubleton and QJTx, I'd always raise to game.|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|fred: I think it is a close decision, but agree with the others that I would take the push with the actual north hand|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s9|nt|jtr: Well, the auction at the other table was hardly erudite|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c37|st||md|3S983HAKQJ5DA32CA8,ST76HT32D76CKQ632,S54H9874DQJT4CJT5,SAKQJ2H6DK985C974|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o38|st||md|4S2H95DAQTCAKT8752,ST96HAQJ872D8CQ64,SAJ743HK6DKJ543C9,SKQ85HT43D9762CJ3|sv|e|nt|skjaeran: But I wld rate the south hand as subminimum for this auction.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|ahalim: wiil they bid 6@D ?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I doubt it|pg||
mb|d!|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2@C was Precision|pg||
nt|dburn: will they make it if they do?|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|jtr: No|pg||
nt|fred: 6@D is not an especially good contract here, but it is close to making - the 4-1 diamond break would cause it to fail |pg||
nt|jtr: Even 5@d has problems|pg||
nt|fred: defense might have to trump to prevent crossruff|pg||
nt|kskov: Why not 2@s from N, do they play hi-lo doubles?|pg||
nt|dburn: North has an awkward decision now|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|fred: i guess it is guess down regardless of the defense|pg||
nt|jtr: Endplayed into 5@c i think|pg||
nt|dburn: he wants to show his spades, but to do this might leave South unable to bid 3NT is that is the right contract|pg||
nt|jtr: I guess 2@s would be non-forcing over 2@h?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Helge Mæsel might even pass this|pg||
nt|dburn: South is bidding as though he has a complete minimum, which he is some way from having|pg||
nt|dburn: but his two small hearts are acting as a deterrent|pg||
nt|jtr: Surely 3@s created a game force?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Roald has a very good hand for his 2@C opening|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes David, but you are allowed to take a view|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: Assuming 5@C, what do you think Helgemo will lead? Singleton diamond may be less attractive than normal with Qxx of trumps|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|fred: declarer will want to take safety play in trumps - first round finesse is % play|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, it will sound to him as though no one has a heart stop, since no one bid 3NT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|nt|fred: loses to 2 singleton honors, but gains against 3 small singletons|pg||
nt|jtr: He is hearing you Fred:-)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jtr: That @d was a little dangerous for returning to hand|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c38|st||md|4S2H95DAQTCAKT8752,ST96HAQJ872D8CQ64,SAJ743HK6DKJ543C9,SKQ85HT43D9762CJ3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o39|st||md|1SAQT8HAT984D94C54,SJ73H63DQJT32CK76,SK6542HKQ75DK7CA2,S9HJ2DA865CQJT983|sv|b|nt|jtr: East cant have 6@ss|pg||
nt|ahalim: very|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|jtr: Roland would not have fared well with the N/S cards  None of his slams making|pg||
nt|Walddk2: On the contrary|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Mine never make|pg||
nt|jtr: ah ok:-)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|ahalim: Roland bids them but never makes them :))|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jtr: You sound almost proud of it?|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|fred: Are NS playing a strong 1@C system? If not, I am surprised by South's 4@S call|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|jtr: yes they are|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d6|pc|h8|nt|jtr: Not even that strong, they open flat 16 counts 1@c|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c39|st||md|1SAQT8HAT984D94C54,SJ73H63DQJT32CK76,SK6542HKQ75DK7CA2,S9HJ2DA865CQJT983|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o40|st||md|2SQ7HK7543DKJ985CK,SK96H2DQTCAQ98632,SJ2HAJ98DA6432CJ5,SAT8543HQT6D7CT74|sv|o|nt|fred: Playing a natural system, the South hand is "too good" for 4@S - you could miss a slam as partner would expect a different hand for 4@S|pg||
nt|kskov: they play old style precision|pg||
mb|1C|nt|fred: but if 1@S is limited to less than 16 HCP, 4@S has a lot more going for it|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|jtr: Surprised South didnt take the save with the double fit at the other table. But he chose well|pg||
nt|fred: EW did well at the other table to bid to 4@S with so few HCP|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Few high cards for EW but a perfect fit|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And even 2 red queens wasted|pg||
nt|jtr: Bid 4@s as a two-way shot i think  4@h might be making|pg||
nt|fred: Would you just bid 5@D with the South hand here?|pg||
nt|jtr: 3@h if i can|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d!|nt|Walddk2: Another support double|pg||
nt|jtr: X support not @cs i think|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Surely support|pg||
nt|fred: ideally you would probably want your partner to make the final decision, and i agree that mentioning your hearts is a good way to help him to judge accurately|pg||
nt|jtr: I would like a better suit but game in @hs is an option|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Do you play support doubles with Brad, Fred?|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|jtr: East will compete to 3@s but will that end it?|pg||
nt|fred: still - i have seen people make "fit jumps" on such a wide variety of hands, that these bids don't always help that much in practice - they also sometimes help the opponents|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Then you and David Burn could have a nice discussion about the merit of support doubles. I know David dislikes them|pg||
nt|fred: Hard for Helgemo to know that there are not 2 diamond losers|pg||
pc|d5|nt|fred: I do play support doubles with all my regular partners Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Where are you David?|pg||
nt|jtr: Not ½ as much as i do|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|kskov: David loves support doubles :-)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jtr: What do you do with strong balanced hands then Fred?  Just limit in NT?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|fred: that's right|pg||
nt|fred: occasionally you have a hand with no stopper and no 3-card support - that is a problem|pg||
nt|fred: but that doesn't happen much|pg||
nt|jtr: I just prefer 2NT as a raise and X with strong balanced|pg||
nt|fred: and it is a problem for everyone (unless you play DBL suggests a hand like that)|pg||
nt|kskov: in my opinion there are more advantages than disadvantages with support doubles|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|fred: agree - in my experience support DBLs have been a big winner|pg||
nt|jtr: Often raise with three cards but i know that is an anathema over there|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c40|st||md|2SQ7HK7543DKJ985CK,SK96H2DQTCAQ98632,SJ2HAJ98DA6432CJ5,SAT8543HQT6D7CT74|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o41|st||md|3S64H63DAQT63CQT98,SAQT2HQ942DJ95C52,SJ53HKJ85DK72CK43,SK987HAT7D84CAJ76|sv|e|nt|jtr: Anyway, South did well to go quietly|pg||
nt|fred: i don't mind sometimes raising on 3-card support in uncontested auction, but in competitive auction i have found it more useful to distinguish between 3 and 4-card support|pg||
mb|1N|nt|skjaeran: Agree, Fred|pg||
mb|d|nt|fred: also support DBLs solve your problem on some strange hands with, say, 3-card support and a long minor and a good hand|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|fred: or at least delay your problem :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Dont want this to go on and on but you can jump raise with weak 4 card support and cue with good a good hand and four cards|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fred: I am surprised that Helness would DBL 1NT here|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 10-12 most likely|pg||
pc|c5|nt|jtr: 9-12NT i think|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Is it Harald?|pg||
nt|skjaeran: 10-12|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fred: whatever the range i am surprised :)|pg||
nt|jtr: ty|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@c=@cs and a higher?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: What about North America and the mini-NT, Fred?|pg||
nt|kskov: both minors I think|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Don't know|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
nt|vugraph175: nilslands linklinger|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|skjaeran: But looks like both minors:-)|pg||
nt|fred: you don't see many 10-12 notrumps in America at the highest levels these days. they were more in style a few years ago, but from what i can tell most of the experts decided that ...|pg||
nt|fred: they did not work very well|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You are hardly a supporter since you prefer 15-17 to 12-14 yourself|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|skjaeran: If it's Nilsland, it shows both minors|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jtr: Didnt Meckwell play it?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d7|nt|fred: at one point Meckwell played 10-12 notrumps at some vulnerabilities|pg||
nt|fred: but not anymore|pg||
nt|fred: now they play 14-16 most of the time and 15-17 in a couple of positions|pg||
nt|vugraph175: thet play  Nilslands'|pg||
pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Then a direct bid shows the suit and the one above|pg||
nt|jtr: Thanks Jerunn|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|jtr: Jorunn sorry |pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|fred: i personally like the idea of having a little more to double a 10-12 notrump - a good 13-count at the very least|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
nt|fred: but obviously from what we see here, some very good players would not agree with this :)|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c41|st||md|3S64H63DAQT63CQT98,SAQT2HQ942DJ95C52,SJ53HKJ85DK72CK43,SK987HAT7D84CAJ76|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o42|st||md|4SJTHA2DKJT864CAK7,S87542HJT873DA9C8,SA63HKQ5DQ53CJT43,SKQ9H964D72CQ9652|sv|b|mb|p|nt|jtr: well it probably gained him 5 IMPs|pg||
nt|fred: also important in my view to have an attractive opening lead against 1NT if you are minimum for your DBL|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jtr: Chance here|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|jtr: Not any more|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: 3NT is a little lucky actually|pg||
nt|fred: 5@D is probably where you want to play on these cards, but I suspect that many pairs would have a notrump auction|pg||
nt|jtr: If Helness can find a @s lead declarer needs to guess|pg||
nt|fred: if Helness leads a spade, declarer has to not hold up in order to make|pg||
nt|fred: due to blockage in spade suit|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jtr: well done!|pg||
nt|fred: in real life that is not going to happen - he will hold up and go down|pg||
nt|fred: very obscure and against the odds to play for the actual position|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg||
nt|kskov: 3NT S in closed, and probably a @h lead|pg||
nt|jtr: Fantoni had a position like that in the BB|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Yes, Høiland led the @HJ|pg||
nt|fred: Spade lead not at all obvious in my view - Helness did very well|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c42|st||md|4SJTHA2DKJT864CAK7,S87542HJT873DA9C8,SA63HKQ5DQ53CJT43,SKQ9H964D72CQ9652|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|cJ|pc|sK|pg||
pg||
qx|o43|st||md|1SK6HKJT65DQT84CJT,ST83HA9843DJ5C875,S975HQDA9632CK643,SAQJ42H72DK7CAQ92|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|jtr: He has a habit of doing that:-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is a match from round 4 of 7 in the Norwegian Club Team Championships. 8 teams play a complete round-robin over 4 days. 32 boards per match. One more segment today after this ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: match|pg||
nt|fred: 1@H may look extremely agressive to some of the audience, but NS are using a system where they open 1@C on hands with 16+ HCP|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1st half of round 5|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|fred: this gives them the luxury of being able to open light at the 1-level|pg||
mb|2S|nt|skjaeran: We're testing a better result service now. All table results is updated every minute.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Using Bridgemate?|pg||
mb|p|nt|skjaeran: The adress is: resultater.bk2000.org/main.aspx|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Yes - BridgeMate is being used|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fred: For those of you who do not know about "Bridgemate", this is an electronic device that the players can use to enter the results of each board|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fred: it allows the tournament to be scored in an automated fashion|pg||
nt|fred: it is really a brilliant innovation - we are currently working on an interface between Bridgemate and BBO|pg||
nt|skjaeran: http://resultater.bk2000.org/main.aspx|pg||
nt|fred: so that we can display all the results and scores of a tournament in real time directly through our software|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fred: this system will be in use on BBO for the first time in August for our coverage of the European Championships in Warsaw|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
nt|jtr: @d guess coming up|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|jtr: or not...|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|mc|9|pg||
qx|c43|st||md|1SK6HKJT65DQT84CJT,ST83HA9843DJ5C875,S975HQDA9632CK643,SAQJ42H72DK7CAQ92|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|mc|9|pg||
qx|o44|st||md|2SQHJ9542DJTCA7532,SJ8732HQ73DA76C94,SAT64HA8DK953CKJ6,SK95HKT6DQ842CQT8|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: Good effort by Austberg - Furunes in the closed room|pg||
nt|fred: NS at the other table did well to bid and make 3NT on this one|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: Not that obvious to bid 3NT, not obvious to make it either|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p!|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|ahalim: do you see a line for 9 tricks, roland ?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fred: playing a "normal system", North would open 1NT, South would transfer to hearts and then face a tough decision on the next round|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|kskov: far from obvious to make 3NT I think|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|jtr: made 3@ss 4@cs @d @h|pg||
nt|fred: agree - at first glance it looks like you need some help from the defense|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
nt|jtr: The defence thought it a good idea to keep playing @ss|pg||
nt|kskov: a bit different when N is declarer|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|fred: Not sure what the 2@D opening on the West hand was all about, but it didn't work very well on this deal|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c3|nt|fred: at the other table I mean|pg||
nt|kskov: "garbage multi" its called|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Garbage Multi - 0-7 and normally 5cM|pg||
nt|Walddk2: weak weak Multi|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2MA would be a constructive weak 2|pg||
nt|fred: i can understand using that system, but i can't understand why anyone would feel compelled to use it on the actual West hand|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Oh Fred, that's a maximum :-)|pg||
nt|jtr: Kristiansand were leading before this match but now well overtaken by Heimdal|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Heimdal now in the 25-5 VP range|pg||
nt|skjaeran: We jsut moved into the 25-5 range|pg||
nt|jtr: Has everything bad going for it  Poor @s suit an Ace outside and Qxx in the other major|pg||
nt|kskov: I really dont like that convention, too agressive|pg||
nt|vugraph175: waiting for cards here;) |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Harald where are you?|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Right here;)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Harald Skjæran is also the on site tournament director|pg||
nt|Walddk2: multi-talented|pg||
nt|jtr: Expert at the Multi?:-)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: The next board is not finished in the closed room - they have to wait|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c44|st||md|2SQHJ9542DJTCA7532,SJ8732HQ73DA76C94,SAT64HA8DK953CKJ6,SK95HKT6DQ842CQT8|sv|n|mb|2D|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pg||
qx|o45|st||md|3SJ872HKJ8DA864C87,S93HAQ742DQ3CKQ53,SAQT6HT53DJT2CJ94,SK54H96DK975CAT62|sv|b|nt|jtr: The standard 23 point 3NT|pg||
nt|fred: EW at the other table bid too much on this one - everything was as friendly as could be, but 3NT still had no chance|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not sure where Høiland got his raise from|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: His partner was a passed hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|jtr: 3@c seems plenty|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahalim: maybe state-of-the match Roland|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2@C may not be a suit|pg||
nt|jtr: Why not raise to 3@c?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Helness the rock-solid bidder|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jtr: facing a passed hand?|pg||
nt|kskov: Helness has a good hand, why not 2@s, showing max and @c support|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@c must be artificial but ti wasnt alerted|pg||
nt|fred: obviously lots of options for Helness - 2@H, 2@S, 2NT, and 3@C all possible|pg||
nt|skjaeran: I can guarantee it's natural|pg||
nt|fred: i am pretty sure 2@C was natural|pg||
pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: The international top pair with few gadgets|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sound natural bridge|pg||
nt|fred: in my regular partnerships, 2@H shows a "constructive preference" - rough good 8 to 10 with 2 hearts|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That's how Helgemo likes it|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@h seems very strange then  Must be something of which we are not aware|pg||
nt|fred: i play a conventional 2@D rebid - opener must bid 2@H over that|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|fred: that is how you show a "bad preference" (as well as various good hands)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg||
nt|fred: you lose the natural 2@D bid, but being able to distinguish between good and bad preference seems to work well on a lot of hands|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|h3|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Still playing 46 in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Half way through the play of the hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's a game contract, won't reveal more|pg||
nt|jtr: No photo of you on the site Harald?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Time to say a few words then ....|pg||
nt|kskov: there is one on the index page, the middle picture. he is the one to the right|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The next board is the last board of the match. Thanks very much to Jorunn Olsen, our splendid operator at Kristiansand. Well done again!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators: Fred Gitelman, David Greenwood, Kenneth Skov, David Burn, Arifin Halim and Harald Skjæran|pg||
nt|vugraph175: tyv roland;-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Finally thanks to the NBF and Kristiansand BK for their support, and especially to Snorre Aalberg who has been instrumental in organising this broadcast|pg||
nt|fred: and thank you Roland for your tireless (and no doubt tiring!) efforts!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I had a nap today :-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: David approved!|pg||
nt|jtr: lol|pg||
nt|jtr: He always asks my permission:-)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: We're playing the first half of round 5 tonight, starting in 46 minutes.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Harald is a strict TD|pg||
nt|ahalim: Roland is always taking a nap, walddk2,3 and 4 are working walddk is sleeping :))|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Starting in 46 minutes, not 45|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And a nice surprise for you .....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Fred will be back in 45 minutes!|pg||
nt|jtr: he having a nap?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: He asked me, but I said no|pg||
nt|jtr: lol|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So he is coming back :-)|pg||
nt|fred: i love watching this EW pair play - i can't stay away :)|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c45|st||md|3SJ872HKJ8DA864C87,S93HAQ742DQ3CKQ53,SAQT6HT53DJT2CJ94,SK54H96DK975CAT62|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|h7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SJ76HAQ86DA842CK9,STHKJ432DKJ65CQ82,SAK983HT5D73CAT53,SQ542H97DQT9CJ764|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: They may not be here in the next match Fred|pg||
mb|1S|nt|jtr: Needs some good play to make 4@s here|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jtr: Harald will arrange it i am sure|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Which match are we getting Harald?|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: will Helgemo avoid the @h lead?|pg||
nt|fred: i think there is a good chance he will find the diamond lead|pg||
nt|skjaeran: It will be Flekkefjord vs Studentenes, featuring Brogeland and the juniors|pg||
nt|fred: 1@D did not show diamonds here because NS are playing a strong 1@C system|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jtr: A relief to see that he is human|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|fred: declarer's plan should be to cash a high honor and lead low toward the @SJ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|fred: won't be necessary when the 10 drops|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|skjaeran: Just continue wtih the king and unblock|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They have done enough, 25-5 or 25-4 it will be|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|fred: but the play i suggest would guard against Q10xx in either hand|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: 25-4 if this is kept to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|fred: if you need to play spades for no losers, it is better to cash the AK (versus double finesse against Q10)|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Yes - a classic safety play|pg||
nt|fred: a lot easier to learn these things and memorize them than to do the math at the table :)|pg||
nt|fred: interesting falsecarding possibilities too in this spade suit|pg||
nt|fred: with Q10 doubleton...|pg||
nt|skjaeran: Bye all, I'm leaving for the closed room.|pg||
nt|fred: West can drop the Q under the Ace and perhaps score a trick with the 10|pg||
nt|vugraph175: Helness isv thinking|pg||
nt|jtr: That maybe changes the odds |pg||
nt|fred: Helgemo is one of the few players who I can guarantee would have made that play if he had been dealt @SQ10 doubleton :)|pg||
nt|fred: so against Helgemo you probably shouldn't fall for that - Q10 a little more likely than singleton Q|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jtr: @cQ coming?|pg||
nt|jtr: Players always think longest when it doesnt matter what they do|pg||
nt|jtr: Because they are working out the improbable|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks to all our spectators for coming; hope you enjoyed the show from Kristiansand. See you in about 33 minutes for another 16 boards from this high quality event|pg||
pc|cK|nt|jtr: @dK next|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|cT|pg||
nt|fred: Thanks everyone - see you in a half hour|pg||
nt|Walddk2: From all of us: bye for now, see you soon|pg||
nt|jtr: OK thats it for now people  Thanks for watching and hope you enjoyed|pg||
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qx|c46|st||md|4SJ76HAQ86DA842CK9,STHKJ432DKJ65CQ82,SAK983HT5D73CAT53,SQ542H97DQT9CJ764|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o47|st||md|1SKJ85HKJDAKT8CK75,ST6H987642D3C9643,SAQ7432HAD752CJ82,S9HQT53DQJ964CAQT|sv|n|nt|ahalim: Hi all, greetings from Jakarta|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome David x 2, Arifin and Kenneth|pg||
nt|kskov: Hi all|pg||
nt|jtr: Hello again people|pg||
nt|dburn: this is a Roland slam|pg||
nt|dburn: which, for the benefit of new spectators, is defined as an awful slam that happens to make|pg||
nt|ahalim: agree david|pg||
nt|kskov: also called a "Norwegian slam"|pg||
nt|jtr: Not inconceivable that they will bid it|pg||
nt|kskov: earlier when bidding methods was not so sofisticated Norwegians were known for their 3% slams that made|pg||
nt|dburn: In that case, the board will presumably be flat at 1430 in both rooms|pg||
mb|1C|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|5H|nt|dburn: although declarer can adopt a losing line of play|pg||
nt|dburn: by pitching a diamond on @hK, then trying for a 3-3 diamond break to set up a pitch for the club loser|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahalim: yes he can try for 3-3 @d's|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Forcing pass seems right|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|ahalim: alas no roland slam|pg||
nt|dburn: good judgement by North-South, though even 5@s isn't the world's greatest contract|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Strange how people seem to stay out of cold slams :-)|pg||
nt|dburn: Still, no sensible losing line available to declarer at the five level|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|jtr: More likely to make 6 when in 5 i think|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|jtr: nope|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: not sure about that - he's likely to play as I suggested|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm  is the link to the official web site with much useful info, results and player profiles + photos|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And an opportunity to improve your Norwegian|pg||
nt|dburn: since he would then make five if diamonds break, or East has @cA, or West has @cQ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|s4|nt|jtr: seems ducking a @d caters for 3-3 as well plus the chance of QJ onside|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|jtr: in 5|pg||
nt|dburn: yes, but ducking a diamond doesn't cater for the club honours to be split as I have just suggested|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c47|st||md|1SKJ85HKJDAKT8CK75,ST6H987642D3C9643,SAQ7432HAD752CJ82,S9HQT53DQJ964CAQT|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|d7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|sQ|pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2S2HAJ86DQ983CKJT9,SA973HQ2DJ6542C64,SKJT8H543DAKT7CAQ,SQ654HKT97DC87532|sv|e|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: We will be starting with boards 47 and 48 in this room; then comparisons from the closed room when we get to board 33|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: Another strong @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|kskov: yes, Mæsel-Mæsel play old style Precision with few gadgets|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jtr: another hand close to slam values too|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|jtr: Must be around the 3% mark|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Standard leads in Norway: 3rd and 5th, also against NT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Reverse attitude, standard count|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
nt|jtr: Reverse 'noddy' too?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: Everything is reversed these days|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
nt|dburn: Why? 6@d isn't all that bad - trumps 3-2 plus the short @sQ with West. That's around 30%, not 3%|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|skjaeran: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=100020 for standings and butler|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|Walddk2: Although the Norwegians have kept standard count|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jtr: Qxx is 50%?|pg||
nt|skjaeran: That's because it's called Norwegian count here:-)|pg||
nt|jtr: I guess it is, either Qxx or not Qxx|pg||
nt|dburn: No - but 3-2 trumps is 68%|pg||
nt|skjaeran: It was invented in Akademsisk Bridge Club in Oslo by Helge Vinje and some others.|pg||
nt|dburn: in fact, this is not nearly bad enough to be a Roland slam|pg||
nt|vugraph175: helness is thinking|pg||
nt|dburn: Helness is usually thinking|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How many people have games or slams named after them? I am truly honoured|pg||
nt|ahalim: what about helgemo ?|pg||
nt|dburn: but unfortunately for his opponents, he usually thinks the right things|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d6|nt|skjaeran: Helgemo is also thinking - but seldom use more than 0.2 seconds doing it|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|kskov: Helgemo is incredibly fast|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|h9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c48|st||md|2S2HAJ86DQ983CKJT9,SA973HQ2DJ6542C64,SKJT8H543DAKT7CAQ,SQ654HKT97DC87532|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|h7|pg||
mc|11|pg||