vg|Norewegian ChShip TEMAS,Round 4A,I,1,32,Kristiansand,0,Heimdal,0| rs|2SE+2,2HW-1,4SW+1,4SW=,6CS+1,7NS=,2SW-1,3NS=,2NS=,3NS-3,3HW-1,2HW-1,2SN-1,2HN+1,4SE-2,4HN-1,3NN-2,2DN+2,4CEx-1,4CEx=,3NE+1,3NE+1,2NN=,3NN-1,3CE=,3NE-2,4SS=,4SN=,6DE=,3NW+1,2DW-2,2DW-1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,| pn|R. Mæsel,Furunes,H. Mæsel,Austberg,Grøtheim,Høiland,Aa,Kvangraven|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA97HT9DQ32CT8763,ST42HA653DK4CQ954,SK63HKJ74DT95CAJ2,SQJ85HQ82DAJ876CK|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Chris Hughes, Australia, Henry Bethe, USA, Harald Skjæran, Norway, and David Greenwood, Ireland. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome Chris and David|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|loganrun: Good morning/evening Roland and everybody else|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Hi all!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: good morning/afternoon|pg|| pc|hT|nt|skjaeran: Strange technical problem - had to change PC to be able to load correct round|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jtr: Hello again people|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Boards 15-16 have been completed.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|nt|jtr: 2@s was odd unless it is some sort of reversed cappelletti|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have Helness - Helgemo in the closed room so once again we will switch to English commentary|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 2@S showed 4c@s and longer minor|pg|| nt|jtr: Most Scandanavians speak better English than English speaking nations anyway:-)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d9|nt|skjaeran: Grøtheim-Aa in closed room, Helgemo-Helness is sitting out|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|jtr: Specs have confirmed it shows 4M 5m|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|loganrun: it is common in some parts to play 2 of a minor over 1NT as this sort of hand (ie 2D on this hand)|pg|| nt|jtr: Ah Harlad did too Missed that|pg|| nt|jtr: Harald even|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|skjaeran: Quite common in Norway to play 2@C=MM, 2@D=M, 2M=4M+5m|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|dT|pg|| nt|jtr: I play that but with 5 in the major|pg|| nt|skjaeran: We call it Mulit-Landy|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA97HT9DQ32CT8763,ST42HA653DK4CQ954,SK63HKJ74DT95CAJ2,SQJ85HQ82DAJ876CK|sv|o|nt|davidstern: Have fun with DanWegian|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Daswenorgian|pg|| nt|Walddk2: A language I invented yesterday|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: How similar are the languages?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Many similarities|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: Something like German and Dutch|pg|| nt|davidstern: ?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: closer|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Although many don't understand each other anyway|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin1: believe the pass of the transfer bid showed D|pg|| nt|fabsayc: we have an interesting auction going here, if a little confusing|pg|| nt|davidstern: 2@d may show touching suits or a heart transfer|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if long believes his partner has long diamonds, should pass|pg|| nt|davidstern: Either way pass by North is in order|pg|| mb|p|pc|c2|nt|jbgood: Hei igjen:)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Velkommen tilbage allesammen|pg|| mc|7|nt|davidstern: Not easy for West but he should bid 2@s?|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S953HKQ8DK864CJT2,SKQ42HAT9DJ3CAQ83,S8H653DAQT75C9754,SAJT76HJ742D92CK6|sv|n|nt|jtr: well, it is complete reversed capp|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 5M-4m is treated as 1-suited, if bid|pg|| nt|henryb: also known in Disney World as Mulan|pg|| nt|jtr: Anyway, what's in a name:-)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|trf|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|jtr: No Smolen in Norway though it seems|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|loganrun: breaking into Shakespeare already David|pg|| nt|skjaeran: No, very few play it, Høiland-Kvangraven in CR do.|pg|| nt|jtr: lol|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I know, since I've played their system on BBO with Kvangraven|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jtr: Will play @d now i think|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jtr: ah no need|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d5|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|jtr: At least most of these guys seem to claim quickly|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And now a bidding contest|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S953HKQ8DK864CJT2,SKQ42HAT9DJ3CAQ83,S8H653DAQT75C9754,SAJT76HJ742D92CK6|sv|n|nt|davidstern: Yes I think a transfer which north elected to pass and he gladly accepted that but may have been mentally reading the notes to make sure 2@d wasnt natural and partner thought ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: South had diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: zhuang could perhaps have bid 2@H instead of double?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: og velkommen til Jon Sveindal, Kenneth Skov og John-Eldar Pedersen|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|johnp: Hei igjen og velkommen - hadde vært fint med noen spillernavn:)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAHA653DJ4CK98532,SJT92HKQT842D95CQ,SKQ4HJ7DAKQ2CAJT4,S87653H9DT8763C76|sv|e|nt|henryb: The Cavendish players could take lessons|pg|| nt|jtr: wow Nice 7NT|pg|| nt|skjaeran: The red jacks are wasted paper;)|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: If south's 6th @C is showed.|pg|| nt|henryb: With 14 top tricks, perhaps they should bid 8, but maybe they could not find the @dJ|pg|| nt|jtr: Nice hand for a Precision 2@c|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Grøtheim-Aa started with precision 2@C and relayed to 7NT|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Want to see what it all meant?|pg|| nt|loganrun: as Harald said - N needs to find out about 6th club to make it a good 7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.vikingclub.starwarsguiden.net/system.php|pg|| nt|jtr: All 8 rounds?|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I think it shld be easy for the Mæsel brothers too.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|Walddk2: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|jtr: well they cut out 4 rounds here|pg|| nt|jtr: ah South thinks @hs are agreed?|pg|| nt|loganrun: impossible to bid now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I don't blame him|pg|| mb|6C|nt|skjaeran: Strange not making @s's trumps before BWing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|skjaeran: @C's;)|pg|| nt|jtr: Another quick claim hand|pg|| pc|s4|nt|skjaeran: But cld have asked for specific kings, maybe?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|henryb: maybe he could not?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jtr: North probably thought he was agreeing @cs|pg|| nt|jtr: Although i cant see why myself|pg|| nt|henryb: I would have thought agreeing @h|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Jumping to 4NT over 2@H normally agrees @H's|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAHA653DJ4CK98532,SJT92HKQT842D95CQ,SKQ4HJ7DAKQ2CAJT4,S87653H9DT8763C76|sv|e|nt|kskov: God ettermiddag|pg|| nt|johnp: ser ut som de tar igjen noe etterslep|pg|| nt|johnp: Hei Kenneth|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Ja, men det får vi rettet op på|pg|| mb|2D|nt|kskov: ja, det er ihvertfall ikke Grøtheim - Aa som spiller nå......|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kskov: Hei John-Eldar og Jon|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3@D is often played forcing, in fact in NA it is alertable if not forcing|pg|| mb|3C|nt|Walddk4: Jeg tror vi gå over til engelsk igen nu når vi har Helness - Helgemo her igen|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Er det ok med jer?|pg|| nt|johnp: ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: oui|pg|| nt|kskov: yepp|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jbgood: maght make an overtick in 7 NT on this one|pg|| nt|jbgood: might|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: E/W have sold out very cheaply here|pg|| nt|davidstern: Some play 3@D as non-forcing depending on what you play 2NT as|pg|| nt|gracelin1: East shud overtake and shift to C, knowing declarer has SK|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|fabsayc: moment of truth for defense|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: well done|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.vikingclub.net for a summary of the NS system|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Nu går vi tilbage til skandinavisk altså|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|Walddk4: Velkommen tilbage Kåre|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|johnp: Som Andreas sa i går - denne hadde nok jeg også spilt hjem|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kskov: Grøtheim sjekker litt sits i tilfelle @c sitter 3-0, men ingen problemer her|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|h3|nt|Walddk4: Spil 1 gave 6 IMP til Heimdal|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|brann: Takk Roland :)|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQ62HA87DJT2CAKQ6,SKT8743HK32DAQ7C8,SAJ9HQ954D63CT743,S5HJT6DK9854CJ952|sv|b|nt|henryb: Perhaps should bid 4@d (kickback) over 2@c|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|loganrun: NS did well in the closed room|pg|| mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Extremely good result for Heimdal in closed|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jtr: 1NT stymied South|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d5|nt|skjaeran: Høiland failed to switch to @D when winning the @HK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jtr: oops|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jtr: another chance missed|pg|| nt|vugraph175: waiting for card here..|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SQ62HA87DJT2CAKQ6,SKT8743HK32DAQ7C8,SAJ9HQ954D63CT743,S5HJT6DK9854CJ952|sv|b|nt|davidstern: Good pickup for Meikuang|pg|| mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: EW are rattled, as Patrick said that was not a tough defense|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: For stærk til 1NT i baghånden for de fleste|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|johnp: ja, det var nok det han tenkte på|pg|| nt|kskov: de fleste i Norge spiller 1NT i denne posisjonen som 15-17(18)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: http://www.vikingclub.starwarsguiden.net/system.php|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Takk til Ray Håkonsen|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Walddk4: 4 brillante norske kommentatorer til denne halvleg, så jeg vil tage en pause. God fornøjelse!|pg|| nt|jbgood: like så Roland|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Tak|pg|| pc|s9|nt|brann: Takk Roland, enjoy the break :)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|kskov: Grøtheim må prøve en hj mot bordet, så får vi se om Høiland klarer ruterskiften|pg|| nt|jbgood: Høiland får prøven etter hjerter konge - |pg|| nt|johnp: det er jo lett å si det fra vår plass, men @d ess hadde vært et alternativ - nå får han jo sjansen en gang til da|pg|| nt|brann: Blir det en prøve da ? Nils legger vel @h10 så snart han får sjansen og da er det game over slik jeg ser det.|pg|| nt|kskov: enig med deg, men som alltid skal det gjøres ved bordet......|pg|| nt|jbgood: best om dere har noen vitser på lager folkens - dette kan bli en laaaaaang halvrunde:)|pg|| nt|brann: Grøtheim er den som skal angripe @d først, da blir det straks værre.|pg|| nt|johnp: Jon, quiz er bedre|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|davidstern: Nice safe spot and N/S have sold out cheaply again being able to make 140 themselves - the diamond ruff will simply hold declarer to 2|pg|| nt|johnp: nå avsløres mye|pg|| nt|vugraph103: straffepoengene sitter løst hos Skjæran|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|gracelin1: is north worth a 2S balance with his 4 points. I will|pg|| nt|brann: :) Hard mann han Skjæran:)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|kskov: Hard mot de harde|pg|| pc|s3|nt|jbgood: ja - nå er det enda lettere å finne ruterskiftet - men fikk ikke mye hjelp hos makker|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|gracelin1: brb|pg|| nt|davidstern: This is the classic hand we use to teach about hesitations - even if partner hesitates for 10 minutes North is within his rights to balance knowing his partner holds a minimum of ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: 10 points and may have a lot more|pg|| nt|davidstern: Mandatory on every level I think unless you are a pessimist and worried about pushing opps into 4@h!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that is a realistic danger|pg|| nt|davidstern: It has to be wrong and 4@s has to be bad sacrifice as well|pg|| nt|davidstern: if 44@sx is -200 it is worth balancing to try and steal the pot|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kskov: hmm, ikke så lett ved bordet........|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 2 x Mæsel standsede i 6@C på spil 3|pg|| pc|cT|nt|Walddk4: 11 IMP til Heimdal|pg|| nt|brann: hmm, Nils tenker sikkert riktig men kan @h6 være riktig noen gang ?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|kskov: Heimdal har fått en flying start|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|johnp: ja det må man kunne si uten å overdrive|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S83HA9542DAK92CT2,SKT4HK8DQJ653C986,SA962HJ6DT4CAQ753,SQJ75HQT73D87CKJ4|sv|n|nt|jtr: A chance for Kristiansand to get a few back|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jtr: If they can stop|pg|| nt|loganrun: this 3NT had stoppers in all suits and went 3 off (as opposed to their previous 3NT) - just lacked points and luck|pg|| mb|2N|nt|henryb: This is one of those boards where North opens minimum values and South forces to game as if North had a sound opener|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|henryb: did not lack points, just any sensible source of tricks|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And opps cld knock out dummy's entry.|pg|| nt|loganrun: 22 only|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c2|nt|skjaeran: Oops, making now.|pg|| nt|henryb: well, players under the age of 60 seem to think that is enough points.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jtr: Needed a switch|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|skjaeran: The Mæsel's are just below 60;))|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|henryb: Just look at Meckwell or the Hacketts|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jtr: 9IMPs back|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s2|nt|skjaeran: Badly needed|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jtr: Long match|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|skjaeran: I think Furunes reverse Smithed that he didn't like his lead.|pg|| nt|jtr: No mean judge:-)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: He played the 9 on the first @C lead.|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S83HA9542DAK92CT2,SKT4HK8DQJ653C986,SA962HJ6DT4CAQ753,SQJ75HQT73D87CKJ4|sv|n|nt|davidstern: Anyway looking at all 4 hands it is right H-e-r-e|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|davidstern: 27 combined cold 4@h time for a late afternoon latte - anybody want anything|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|brann: @h6 er IKKE ett informativt kort, Nils vet at spillefører har 9 hp i@c + at han har @hA og @sQ, da er enda sjansen at makker har akkurat det han hadde.|pg|| mb|2C|nt|davidstern: 500 if they elect to stick this|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: Easy 4@h from North but why did South not bid 4@H|pg|| nt|johnp: ja, det så litt merkelig ut|pg|| mb|3C|nt|brann: Men det er lett for oss som ser alle kort, men det betyr ikke at det ikke er lov til å tenke.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|johnp: hm - |pg|| nt|jbgood: hardt nok dette også - men denne gangen tror jeg på bet:)|pg|| nt|kskov: Dette må man ihverfall være magiker for å få hjem, men litt hjelp i utspillet|pg|| nt|jbgood: tror ikke all erdens tryllestaver hjelper her|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|davidstern: Hope that doesnt make South nervous about a club ruff|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|kskov: steindødt er vel et dekkende uttrykk|pg|| nt|johnp: 2 @c er vel en chckbck-variant, og da har N det vanskelig, men 2 NT hadde kansje vært bedre|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|johnp: Per opplyser at 2@c er utgangskrav|pg|| nt|brann: Systemkortet til blant annet Grøtheim - Aa finner du her: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/CCards/systemkort_nm_klubber.htm|pg|| nt|brann: Ellers kan vi anbefale en tur innom Kristiansand's BK sine flotte NM sider: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|jbgood: men skal du lese det må du helst bestille time hos kiropraktor får å rette ut nakken etterpå |pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|davidstern: Nice @HK hoping for declarer putting on low|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - skriver som et får:((|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|nt|davidstern: OK moving right along|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| nt|brann: Vi må bare beklage at Snorre fortsatt spiser og ikke har oppdatert stillingen på forsiden:), men du kan se stillingen etter 3 kamper her: http://nbfdata.bridge.n...|pg|| nt|brann: o/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=100020|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|c3|nt|brann: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=100020|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST7HT5DAQJTCAK865,SHKQ632D432CQJ972,SJ86543HA98DK96C4,SAKQ92HJ74D875CT3|sv|e|nt|skjaeran: I which case Austberg should have found the switch.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|jtr: Grotheim dodged a bullet on this|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D!|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Blocking the @D's:(|pg|| nt|henryb: DTAC for a push|pg|| nt|jtr: South could have led the Q rather than the A|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Yes|pg|| nt|henryb: DTAC stands for draw trumps and claim|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jtr: soon|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jtr: website for things is http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm|pg|| nt|jtr: No point in quick claims if we have to wait for boards|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST7HT5DAQJTCAK865,SHKQ632D432CQJ972,SJ86543HA98DK96C4,SAKQ92HJ74D875CT3|sv|e|mb|1S|nt|davidstern: Hard to see why N/S got so high on limited values|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2D|nt|jbgood: En kib gir følgende kommentar til forrige spill: De meldte'n med overbevisning!!|pg|| mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: south hand not worth more than 2@S, or a constructive raise of 2@H, which is what we are seeing|pg|| nt|brann: 2@h pass rundt ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@H showing a good spade raise|pg|| mb|p|pc|c4|nt|davidstern: Pass will be good here|pg|| pc|c3|nt|davidstern: Well done by South AND west|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|davidstern: @c2 will optimise the defence|pg|| nt|fabsayc: looks automatically down via repeated club leads|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| nt|johnp: 2@h står nesten, så det er jo ikke så galt|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|davidstern: Ruff high an duck a trump|pg|| nt|fabsayc: does he know club break?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|davidstern: Must suspect on @CT lead and @D2 back and what was 2NT with singleton and there is your answer|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|nt|davidstern: Exceptionally well done declarer|pg|| nt|davidstern: He has picked this hand superbly|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|nt|davidstern: Still one down but picking up 6 imps for his troubles|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJ3HA73D872CKJ873,SA654HQ95DT543CT6,SKQT87HKT84DQ6CQ2,S92HJ62DAKJ9CA954|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jtr: North may pass this|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jtr: East likely to have @hs so not much point in removing|pg|| mb|2S|nt|skjaeran: Quick claims allow us all to fetch coffee or visit the bathroom:-)|pg|| nt|jtr: You cant Harald|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: And me to check all the tables|pg|| pc|dA|nt|henryb: or take other much desired breaks|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|skjaeran: We just passed half of the time, and all tables are on track, except for CR in our match - 1 board late.|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|nt|jtr: The 7NT maybe took a while to bid|pg|| pc|sA|nt|henryb: how much time do you give for 16 boards?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dT|nt|skjaeran: 2 hours 15 minutes|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jtr: Hmmm Just gone down in this|pg|| nt|skjaeran: When playing with screens, 2 hours otherwise|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|henryb: Co peop,e should have no more than 7 boards left|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jtr: Nice duck|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jtr: Cut communications|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jtr: Otherwise declarer could win this in hand and play @cs|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|skjaeran: The signal for 1 hour left just chimed|pg|| nt|jtr: We dont have the scores for round 3 Harald?|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Just a moment|pg|| nt|jtr: have half time scores|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJ3HA73D872CKJ873,SA654HQ95DT543CT6,SKQT87HKT84DQ6CQ2,S92HJ62DAKJ9CA954|sv|b|nt|davidstern: I am very impressed with this play|pg|| nt|kskov: 9 tilbake til Kristiansand, Mæsel-Mæsel fikk hjem 2NT det Grøtheim gikk 3 sonebeit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|davidstern: 4@h can make here I think 4@s seems doomed if they duck the club king|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is like everybody knows opponents styles|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|brann: lien @d ut og der var ingen problemer for Mæsel, 3@d+3@c og 2 ess ga vunnet kontrakt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|kskov: ja, øst må ha "glemt" å skifte spar når han kom inn på kløver|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4@H beatable with diamond leads|pg|| nt|gracelin1: South shud honor pd's decision when he already showed his 6-5 in blacks|pg|| pc|h2|nt|davidstern: Declarer will always make 4@s provided he plays clubs before drawing trumps|pg|| nt|davidstern: And this wont damage anything|pg|| nt|brann: Det er riktig, han spelt @d ja|pg|| nt|brann: Dem bruker vel smith og Furu var vel overlykkelig med utspillet, så han signaliserte vel for mer @d :)|pg|| nt|kskov: sikkert medlem i Smiths venner|pg|| nt|brann: :)|pg|| nt|brann: Eller: smith's uvenner|pg|| nt|jbgood: merkelig preferanse av Grøtheim - 5-2 spiller oftest bedre enn 4-3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|gracelin1: yes, if oppo ducks, declarer can overtake trump to lose 1S, 1D and 1C|pg|| nt|davidstern: If declarer tries to draw trumps he has hand entry difficulties in 4@s|pg|| nt|gracelin1: looking at the NS hands I wud say 4S a better contract than 4H|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|fabsayc: perhaps even 5@C is better|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|nt|johnp: dette blir en lang dag|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|d8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|davidstern: I can see declarer smiling from here|pg|| nt|brann: Hvor lang spilletid har dem ?|pg|| nt|kskov: Aa tar med seg det 9.ende stikket, fort et imp|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA43HJ875DK63CAT5,SKQJ7HA3D72CQJ864,S2HKQ962DAT9C9732,ST9865HT4DQJ854CK|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|jtr: 4@h gets defeated by ruffing out declarer's @c trick|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: needs sharp defence|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: However....|pg|| nt|loganrun: 4H has chances to make as well but..|pg|| pc|h7|nt|skjaeran: Round 3: Narvik-Kr.sand 59-91 - 10-20|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Studentene-Heimdal 79-81 - 15-15|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Bodø-Flekkefjord 69-69|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jtr: Great Harald Thanks|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Norrøna-OBK/!VJ 69-59 - 16-14|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jtr: So Kristiansand lead|pg|| nt|skjaeran: OBK/@CJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Yes, Kr.sand in the lead, but not with the standing in this match|pg|| nt|jtr: Heimdal were about 3 behind|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Butler at: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=100020|pg|| nt|jtr: results at: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=100020|pg|| nt|jtr: lol|pg|| nt|jtr: yes thanks to the specs for that link|pg|| nt|loganrun: NS haven't set the world on fire at this table to date but things may change|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA43HJ875DK63CAT5,SKQJ7HA3D72CQJ864,S2HKQ962DAT9C9732,ST9865HT4DQJ854CK|sv|o|nt|brann: 2 1/2 ?|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|davidstern: 5@c must have clubs breaking others have possibilities without that|pg|| nt|kskov: 2t 15 min|pg|| mb|1S|nt|davidstern: As it turns out with the @d blockage 3NT is best|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 10x is enough|pg|| mb|2C|an|hjerterstøtte|nt|davidstern: Indeed|pg|| nt|brann: Så dem tåler ikke flere grukker nå og har ett spill eller 2 å ta igjen....|pg|| nt|vugraph103: 1. spill bak i følge Harald|pg|| nt|vugraph103: kom sent i gang|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|brann: ok|pg|| mb|3S|nt|davidstern: A bit of low level fun here|pg|| nt|davidstern: Double by South would be good|pg|| nt|kskov: min erfaring er at det ikke er så lett å jage på dem :-)|pg|| mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: now i double, cant sit forever throwing green cards out|pg|| nt|davidstern: Everything so well placed for declarer|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: One note about the bidding I have watched in this tournament and I think of it positively and that is that the players seem to sell out cheaply a lot of the time|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|kskov: ser ut som 4@h er beit, men det er vel en variant i @c......|pg|| nt|kskov: ikke nå lenger....|pg|| pc|cA|nt|davidstern: Queen is BAD here|pg|| nt|davidstern: I am reasonably asked: should east respond 2S in the 1st round if playing Weak Jumps?|pg|| nt|davidstern: I would only because of the singleton heart|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kskov: Høiland må bare være påpasselig og spille den fjerde kløveren til røff|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|davidstern: Good play North |pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| pc|h2|nt|davidstern: Excellent indeed|pg|| nt|davidstern: Gets the trick back and perhaps with interest|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|johnp: kansje Nils finner ut at han vil være inne|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|jbgood: han bør være ute|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|hT|nt|kskov: godt motspill|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|davidstern: For any newbies here click on table on the right hand panel. This will show you the tables in play. Run your cursor over the tables to see who is playing. Click on a table to move ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: to that table without going back and reentering that theatre.|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|c8|pg|| nt|davidstern: With so many tables in play at once like now you will have to use the scrollbar up and down|pg|| pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: board 10 declarer had 9 tricks but somehow went down in closed room|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|davidstern: One good thing about doubling is that you can afford to let a trick or two slip away|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ42HJ854DKQ843CJ,SK9HA963D962CKT54,SA76HQT2DA5CAQ863,SQT853HK7DJT7C972|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jtr: Going to game here|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Expected @s lead will sink it|pg|| pc|s3|nt|loganrun: W must put in the 9|pg|| nt|jtr: North may go J anyway|pg|| nt|loganrun: I was just about to say if S plays low but J does look a good shot|pg|| nt|jtr: The think will give the position away to West anyway|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|loganrun: QS rather than 8S would normally suggest a H entry|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jtr: He can take 8 with @ds breaking and the @c finesse|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|nt|jtr: But settling for 2 down|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jtr: I suppose he could make if West had everything|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jtr: Spec pointed out that ducking the @s twice would make the hand|pg|| nt|jtr: Low from dummy and duck the K after West plays the 9 first bround|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ42HJ854DKQ843CJ,SK9HA963D962CKT54,SA76HQT2DA5CAQ863,SQT853HK7DJT7C972|sv|e|nt|davidstern: There is a lot of VuGraph coming up. Complete details can be found at http://tinyurl.com/pqjht This tournament however continues at 12.30 Paris, 11:30 am London, 6:30 am New York, ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: 8:30 pm Sydney, 6:30 pm Beijing or around 2h40m from now|pg|| nt|davidstern: Thanks to our commentators for this match Patrick Huang Taiwan Martin Johnson Canada Prakash India and I am David Stern from Australia. Thanks also to Roland Wald our VG host and ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: Fred Gittelman who provides this awesome service for all of us without any cost. Thanks to the tournament organisers and our fantastic VG operator who regrettably is unamed.|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4-3 i hjerter var 2 stikk bedre enn 5-2 i spar som Mæselbrødrene kom i|pg|| nt|pelu: det kræver lidt forsigtigt modspil at sætte 3 NT|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|davidstern: 5@d certainly can make by playinf clubs well|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: If you feel like travelling after this, the last board, feel free to board the BBO jet to Tallin or Norway|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i think (without looking) gib will disagree about 5@D|pg|| nt|davidstern: Wow - West could be thinking slam in diamonds here|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|davidstern: I would have bd 4@s on his hand|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jbgood: blir vanskelig å bete denne kontrakten:)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|davidstern: I am going to go out on a limb here and back declarer|pg|| pc|dK|nt|davidstern: For those who are interested the VuGraphs on BBO are organised by Roland Wald. He sends out emails each week calling from Volunteers from the panel of 225 volunteers from around ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: the world who range from average players to world champions.|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|davidstern: Declarer in the CR ruffed 2 clubs and hoped diamonds were anything but 4-0 onside and would lose a club but this failed|pg|| nt|davidstern: I think North may shift to a heart|pg|| nt|davidstern: Lots of ways home|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: actually declarer can make i think by using hearts to draw trumps, but obscure line|pg|| nt|davidstern: GIB suggests any card from dummy will make|pg|| nt|fabsayc: well gib cheats|pg|| nt|davidstern: So do we sitting here so let us indulge ourselves by knowing that declarer doesnt need to do anything too obtuce to succeed|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|nt|pelu: overfor 15-17 kunne S gamble på 3 ut|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|johnp: denne er morro|pg|| nt|pelu: selvmords squize|pg|| nt|johnp: ja|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAT6HQT6DAKQ63CK5,SKQ972H7432D2CA73,SJ843HA95DJT874CT,S5HKJ8D95CQJ98642|sv|b|mb|3C|nt|loganrun: but W can counter by leading the KC at trick 3|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jtr: Right|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|jtr: Need to switch to @hs quickly|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jtr: Shouldnt be difficult|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|loganrun: very tight must switch to low H at trick 2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jtr: although it was next door|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Grøtheim led two rounds of @D's for some reason|pg|| nt|jtr: And then switched when in with the @sA to save declarer a guess|pg|| nt|jtr: switched to @hs|pg|| nt|vugraph104: almost LIVE pictures: http://kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm|pg|| nt|loganrun: I thougth that N should DBL as long as it is takeout|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|vugraph104: sry for problems in start of this match.... Proxy problems...|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h5|nt|jtr: Np|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAT6HQT6DAKQ63CK5,SKQ972H7432D2CA73,SJ843HA95DJT874CT,S5HKJ8D95CQJ98642|sv|b|mb|3C|mb|3N|mb|4C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon/evening and welcome back to Taichang for the 3rd All-China Games. Day 4 of 6. Open/Ladies Teams now, 7 rounds of 12 boards in the qualifying; this is the 6th|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Prakash K. Paranjape, India, Martin Johnson, Canada, and David Stern, Australia. I am Roland Wald from Denmark|pg|| nt|panja: Good Morning Roland, hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hello Prakash|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/qx93x is the link to the official web site. Simplified Chinese translated into English with schedule, results and photos|pg|| nt|johnp: Nå må @h skift komme ellers dette kan for bli + på Ø/V|pg|| nt|jbgood: hjerterskift er vel opplagt?|pg|| nt|kskov: ja, det er ikke noe annet fornuftig å ta seg til, men det vil nok ta sin tid.......|pg|| nt|jbgood: lurer på hva alternativet kan være:)|pg|| nt|johnp: kansje korte bordet? Noe må det jo være han tenker på...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kskov: huff....|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|kskov: Kvangraven må fortsatt gjøre rett i @h|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|panja: this should be a routine game|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|panja: easy 9 tricks|pg|| nt|panja: well..it has become interesting now..|pg|| nt|panja: as you can see by clicking on DF..a @H return will defeat 3Nt|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We will be starting with boards 10-12 in this room; then comparisons from the closed room when we get to board 1 |pg|| nt|panja: the Club finesse had all the outward appearance of a safety play....but it wasn't one...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is a match from the Open series|pg|| nt|davidstern: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon to David Stern|pg|| nt|panja: hi David|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|kskov: veldig uheldig motspill av Grøtheim|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: Zhuang - Shi are playing for the Chinese national team|pg|| nt|davidstern: There is not much to the play here I see|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Shanghai among the favourites for the title|pg|| nt|davidstern: Yesterday we had a run of 5 hands with cold games and almost no commentary possible so hoping for something more interesting today|pg|| nt|davidstern: A few slam hands to make Roland Happy |pg|| pc|cK|nt|jbgood: Albert Engström sier: Tenke inte - det bare förvirar|pg|| pc|cA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST7HQ753D8764CAKJ,S64HAJ84DK95CT532,SQ98532H962DQ32CQ,SAKJHKTDAJTC98764|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jtr: North didnt fancy 2@s here|pg|| mb|2N|nt|jtr: Dont blame him|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: as an opening i mean|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: That's a 2@d in my methods|pg|| mb|p|pc|h5|nt|jtr: Pretty yucky at equal vul|pg|| pc|h4|nt|skjaeran: Only 4 down;))|pg|| nt|loganrun: Is this an over 60 thing again David?|pg|| nt|jtr: it might be in 10 years:-)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jtr: Claim please|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|loganrun: next (as a Canadian would say)|pg|| nt|vugraph175: waiting for cards here|pg|| nt|skjaeran: There's no need to claim when Grøtheim-Aa is playing at the other table....|pg|| nt|skjaeran: You have to wait Jorunn@H|pg|| nt|vugraph175: yeah;-)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST7HQ753D8764CAKJ,S64HAJ84DK95CT532,SQ98532H962DQ32CQ,SAKJHKTDAJTC98764|sv|o|nt|pelu: "uheldig"|pg|| nt|kskov: enig, en gammel makker sa til meg:"Slutt med den stygge tenkingen".|pg|| nt|jbgood: uheldig er galt adjektiv|pg|| nt|pelu: og det har du så efterlevet .:-)|pg|| nt|kskov: prøver å være litt diplomatisk for en gang skyld i livet mitt :-)|pg|| nt|johnp: Det er vel det sterkeste adjektiv Roland gir oss lov å bruke:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|davidstern: 3@D by E/W looks the go here|pg|| mb|p|nt|brann: :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 1NT all pass is my guess|pg|| mb|3N|nt|panja: interesting lead..|pg|| nt|davidstern: 7 top tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: Roland er ikke her nå:)))|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: "ikke bedste løsning" er også tilladt|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|kskov: kanskje "mindre vellykket variant" også er tillatt|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hr. Lund kan få sagt det|pg|| nt|johnp: Dette går jo av seg selv så vi tar en quiz: Gammelt engelsk navn på @c 4?|pg|| nt|jbgood: Der fikk Grøtheim - Aa noe å tenke på!|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|nt|davidstern: Ah this is the club play I noted a few days ago. Play the jack and if not covered finesse the other way on the basis that there is some small percentage that the person holding the ...|pg|| nt|davidstern: queen may cover the jack|pg|| nt|davidstern: So it beats a simple cashing|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S8643HKJDAQ3CK943,SQ975HT4DJ762CA65,SAKJHQ982DT984C87,ST2HA7653DK5CQJT2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|loganrun: another under 60 hand - 13 opposite 10 for 3NT in the closed|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jtr: Looks like 6 more to Kristiansand|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|jtr: Exciting to see who will win the last trick:-)|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Last board of the set coming up. 2nd half will resume in just over half an hour.|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Thx to Jorunn Olsen, our excellent operator.|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S8643HKJDAQ3CK943,SQ975HT4DJ762CA65,SAKJHQ982DT984C87,ST2HA7653DK5CQJT2|sv|n|nt|brann: Du kan se bilder fra denne kampen på Kristiansand's flotte finaleside: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/NM%20klubber%202006/Index%20NM.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|kskov: Furunes-Austberg "stampet" også i 4@c, og der hadde Mæsel i syd ingen problemer med å finne @h-skiftet|pg|| nt|pelu: hvorfor melde på vest-hånden?|pg|| nt|pelu: er I enige i å¨bningen på Øst-hånden?|pg|| nt|johnp: Det er Lee Hazen-stil:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: helt normalt i Norge |pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|davidstern: E/W will have to avoid getting too high in spaded here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: helt normalt det og:)|pg|| nt|pelu: hvad er normalt - at åbne i Øst eller melde i Vest? - begge dele er mig meget imod|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kskov: mye Møllers tran i omløp|pg|| nt|jbgood: begge deler normalt - :)|pg|| nt|pelu: i Norge!|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|panja: how should South play the Club suit?|pg|| nt|davidstern: All roads lead to success except finesse and then ace|pg|| nt|davidstern: This leads me to a question what is better finesse and then ace or Ace and another|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Patrick Huang from Taiwan|pg|| nt|gracelin1: Hi all|pg|| nt|davidstern: Hi Patrick|pg|| nt|davidstern: I recall being asked this some years ago and thinking how bad a finesse and then the ace was so I looked up the answer|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Also welcome to Martin Johnson from Canada|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|pelu: jeg foretrækket at have en 5-farve når Syd har doblet til @S|pg|| nt|johnp: siden han nå får et @c-stikk, @d og@s finesse går, og @h 10 faller, så går jo dette bra|pg|| nt|kskov: det er faktisk spill for denne med den gunstige hjertersitsen|pg|| nt|jbgood: nemlig Peter - her ignorerer vi doblingen og melder helt naturlig|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: good evening everybody|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|davidstern: Hi M|pg|| nt|kskov: må spille liten @c nå|pg|| nt|jbgood: Aa likte tieren|pg|| nt|kskov: ikke noe vondt syn|pg|| pc|s3|nt|gracelin1: Hi Martin|pg|| pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: Finessing first then going for the drop is the worst of the 3 options|pg|| nt|gracelin1: declarer might have timing problem unless he plays D first|pg|| nt|davidstern: I dont believe that is correct - it is in fact marginally better than ace and another|pg|| nt|davidstern: I will just get the stats for you|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you cant calculate odds in isolation :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|nt|gracelin1: this solves declarer's timing problem. Now he only needs to play C right|pg|| pc|d5|nt|davidstern: Double finesse is 76% Finesse and Ace is 70.35 and Ace and Another 65.6%|pg|| nt|davidstern: Roudinescu's book is the reference for this and for me for all of these problems|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not after a pre-empt by RHO|pg|| nt|kskov: nå blir det nok beit|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this is coming down to 6322 or 6631 for east|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|gracelin1: if declarer plays East for DA and a Spade honor, then unlike to ave both C honors for the 2S bid|pg|| nt|pelu: "uheldig" spilføring|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|davidstern: I was simply discussing in isolation - it always seemed bad to me but is better than Ace another|pg|| nt|davidstern: These are the hands I like everything declarer is LIKELY to do leads to success|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that is because of possible 4-0 breaks|pg|| nt|gracelin1: double finesse is right if also possese C8, missing that, all reasonable lays are about equal|pg|| nt|fabsayc: eliminating that changes the odds|pg|| nt|gracelin1: plays|pg|| nt|brann: Ja :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d4|nt|fabsayc: here east can have two small singletons or two honour singletons, those are equal barring any other clues|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I'm off to Estonia and Norway in a few minutes. Have fun|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQ98HAQJT42D6CQJ8,SKJ52H9763DA7C965,ST7643H5DQJ532C72,SAHK8DKT984CAKT43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|skjaeran: And thx to my fellow commentators: Henry Bethe (left some time ago), David Greenwood and Chris Hughes.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jtr: Looks like 3NT can make here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jtr: Maybe not actually|pg|| nt|skjaeran: And finally, thanks to the Norwegian Bridge Federation, Kristiansands BK and Snorre Aalberg who'se been instrumental in making this broadcast possible.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: We shall never see|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| nt|loganrun: good night my time and thank you to the operator, fellow commentators and the specs|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Good night Chris!|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|c9|nt|jtr: Can make 4 by giving up a @d and guessing @s|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Bye all - Jorunn will keep the room open until CR is finished|pg|| nt|jtr: OK people, back with the 2nd half of this match in about 30 minutes i think|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 42 minutes|pg|| nt|skjaeran: 27, sry|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQ98HAQJT42D6CQJ8,SKJ52H9763DA7C965,ST7643H5DQJ532C72,SAHK8DKT984CAKT43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kskov: 3@c er vel utgangs-krav, og da kommer Kvangraven-Høiland for høyt|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: helt korrekt Kenneth|pg|| nt|pelu: 4. højeste i bedste farve!|pg|| nt|brann: Ja, men det er jo litt "uheldig" da, hadde Nils hatt honnørene i @d hadde det vært spill for 3NT.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|pelu: selv GIB kan ikke vinde denne - DD kan der spilles på @D-farven|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kskov: Grøtheim gir Kvangraven et lite håp|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|s4|mc|7|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAJTHQJ84DT93CKT6,S986HK753DA84CJ94,SKQ754HTDKJ62CAQ5,S32HA962DQ75C8732|sv|o|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: They will play brd 14 now, but will have to wait later if they play quicker than closed room|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|skjaeran: Which they will, with Grøtheim-Aa sitting there......|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|loganrun: what is there 1NT Harald 10-12 or upgraded 12-14?|pg|| nt|jtr: 2@s must show 3 cards i guess|pg|| pc|hT|nt|skjaeran: 10-12 NV|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|loganrun: ty|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Don't think so, David|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|jtr: Why the raise to 4@s then?|pg|| nt|henryb: Probably we should play 12 and 13 here also.|pg|| nt|skjaeran: Don't know, wld prefer 3@d|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAJTHQJ84DT93CKT6,S986HK753DA84CJ94,SKQ754HTDKJ62CAQ5,S32HA962DQ75C8732|sv|o|nt|brann: 2xMæsel har stoppet i 2NT 2 ganger denne halvrunden, det har gitt 15 imp inn!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|brann: Kun 8 imp skiller nå, Kristansand kom sterkt tilbake etter en famlende start.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: du verden vi er diplomatiske i dag!!|pg|| mb|3H|nt|jbgood: Selv Kåre - hva har skjedd med deg Brann?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: modspillet mod den første 2NT var nu heller så "heldig"|pg|| nt|kskov: han er i godlune - Brann leder jo Tippeligaen|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brann: Riktig Kenneth :)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1ST3HK9542D3CKQJ65,SAKHAQDQT8642C843,SQJ72HJ8763D7CT92,S98654HTDAKJ95CA7|sv|n|nt|pelu: i den umulige 3 ut nøjedes Øst i åben med at melde 2@C (han nedvurderede korrekt @HK) og ØV stoppede i 3@C|pg|| nt|jbgood: To spill etter dette i denne halvrunden - takk Snorre Aalberg og Kr.sand BK for at vi får se dette i levende live, og TD Harald Skjæran og NBF som gir oss lov!|pg|| mb|2D|an| 5 major 7-10 hp|nt|kskov: Det Står 7!|pg|| nt|kskov: det står 7!r ØV, men det er vel vanskelig å komme dit|pg|| nt|kskov: 7@d|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kskov: får skylde på tastaturet jeg også Jon :-)|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kskov: tøft nok å komme i 6@d etter denne innledningen|pg|| nt|pelu: nej i sidste halvleg sagde Hr. Sveindal pænt tak til hr. tastatur|pg|| nt|jbgood: Og takk Lajla Elefskaas - vår eminente operatør - samt bridgenettsted 1 - BBO - med Fred Gitelman og Roland Wald ! Og ikke minst våre glimrende tilskuere - verdens beste! Og ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: endelig: takk til kommentatorene som ikke har hatt for mange "uheldige" kommentarer!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|johnp: Neste runde: 17:15|pg|| nt|brann: Jeg har ingen forståelse for at det ikke ble meldt @d på noen av sidene....|pg|| nt|brann: en kommentar var: nei, det var "uheldig" ;-)|pg|| nt|jbgood: endelig kom Kåre på banen!|pg|| pc|cT|nt|brann: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: En tilskuer bemerker at det er første gang et par ikke melder en farge hvor de har 11 kort tilsammen!|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SK4HQT82DT52CQT75,S97652HK64DAK84CK,SAQJT3HADQ96C8643,S8HJ9753DJ73CAJ92|sv|e|nt|johnp: Ja, det var vel litt uheldig...|pg|| mb|1S|nt|kskov: Kanskje bedre å overføre på Kvangravens hånd og så melde 4@d? 4@d må vel da være naturlig?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|brann: Naturlig er det, men 3NT kan være akkurat der du skal være så det er ikke sikkert 4@d er riktig med den dårlige @s-fargen.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kskov: det er et godt poeng, det ble vanskelig etter at Grøtheim åpnet|pg|| nt|pelu: ok hej med jer - vi ses senere|pg|| nt|johnp: vi kan vel tro på @d-utspill nå|pg|| nt|brann: Takk Peter vi sees! :)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|brann: Spilleføringen i Åpent rom var vel litt "uheldig" om vi får si det......|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|brann: siden vi ikke kan se hvordan det gikk ved det bordet....|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|h3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jbgood: Heimdal 22 opp ved halvtid - sees snart igjen - kaffe (avec) venter|pg|| pc|h8|nt|johnp: bye - cu|pg|| nt|brann: Takk, vi sees senere :)|pg|| mc|7|pg||