vg|Norwegian Team Championship,Round 2 - 1st half,I,1,16,Heimdal BK 1,0,Heimdal BK 2,0| rs|4HW=,4SE=,3NE+3,3NE+3,4SS+1,4SN+1,5CW-1,4CW-1,4HE=,4HE+1,4SE+2,4SE+2,2SS+1,3SS+1,3NW+1,1SNx-3,3HW+1,3HW=,4HN+1,4HN+1,3SW-1,3SE-1,4HW+2,6HW=,2SE+1,2NS-1,5DN-1,3NN+1,5SE+2,4SE+2,3NS-2,3NS-1| pn|Eide,Helgemo,Livgaard,Austberg,Lund,Tøndel,Aa,Mathisen|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA97HJT42DJ8CK964,SJHAKQ875DKCJT875,SK52H3DT9642CAQ32,SQT8643H96DAQ753C|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d7|pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA97HJT42DJ8CK964,SJHAKQ875DKCJT875,SK52H3DT9642CAQ32,SQT8643H96DAQ753C|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph117: test|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|andersk: Hi all|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|andersk: ruff @C and play @S will work here|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA874HJTDQ432CJ82,SKJTHAKQ97D865CT4,S652H643DT97CK753,SQ93H852DAKJCAQ96|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|mc|12|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAJ64HAQJ4DAKQCJ8,S85HT932DJ72CQ632,SKT932H85D986CT97,SQ7HK76DT543CAK54|sv|e|mb|2C|an|strong|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAJ64HAQJ4DAKQCJ8,S85HT932DJ72CQ632,SKT932H85D986CT97,SQ7HK76DT543CAK54|sv|e|nt|tmice: aha... VP punishment....?|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello all |pg|| nt|othered1: this should get to an easy 4@S or a lucky 3N|pg|| nt|vugraph117: think so|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|rmac: hi kibs hi shirley|pg|| nt|sybarra: and Ed is here also |pg|| nt|othered1: looks like south must bid game here, as there's a play opposite @Sxxxxx and out|pg|| nt|rmac: hi ed|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|othered1: Hi, Ralph! rehi, Shirley!|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: Thomas you here?|pg|| nt|rmac: hi inger|pg|| nt|tmice: yes i am:) hi Shirley|pg|| pc|cA|nt|sybarra: great! |pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| nt|sybarra: ok leaviing you 3 gentleman to carry on |pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|rmac: i assume 4h would not be a retransfer|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAKQ7HAJ976D7542C,S3HKQ853DKTCAK642,SJT964HT42DQCQT97,S852HDAJ9863CJ853|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s4|mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAKQ7HAJ976D7542C,S3HKQ853DKTCAK642,SJT964HT42DQCQT97,S852HDAJ9863CJ853|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|othered1: EW are probably best out of this auction, unless they can stop pretty low|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|rmac: 4s wont quite fetch |pg|| nt|othered1: The @H opening should put a damper on NS's ambitions here.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|rmac: luckily|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Do you think east's raise was automatic, given the @H misfit?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: no, i would pass first rule of misfits is to pass asap|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|othered1: Only 2 losers off the top and the @D suit running may make this easy.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmac: would rather be in 2 than 4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cA|nt|tmice: have to go to... have fun...:)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|rmac: tx tom|pg|| nt|othered1: On a good day, however, 5@C can score an overtrick.|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|rmac: also true but i dont have many good days|pg|| nt|rmac: and does 2c promise 4? not with me|pg|| nt|othered1: we can see an easy 5, just play a low trump. But declarer doesn't know that there's a miracle @D lie.|pg|| nt|rmac: i would bid 2 dia as east, not 3c|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|rmac: unless 2c guarantees at least 4|pg|| pc|dT|nt|othered1: If 1N was forcing in a 2/1-type style, then 2@C may be short and I think a 2@D rebid by east is perferable|pg|| nt|othered1: But here declarer is just playing for his contract and will make it easily on this line|pg|| nt|rmac: 5c would have been more exciting|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|othered1: or maybe not. I think second trump there would have insured the contract|pg|| pc|h4|nt|rmac: yes seems wrong play here|pg|| nt|othered1: Actually, this looks like a winning defense at this point|pg|| nt|vugraph117: no Vp penalty. they just erase boards 1 and 2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|othered1: that's a nice ruling. In ACBL you get hung for that, routinely.|pg|| mc|9|nt|rmac: i mjissed it. what happened?|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQJ7HK6DT4CKJ9642,S84HT532DAKQCAQ85,SAKT52HQJD876CT73,S963HA9874DJ9532C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQJ7HK6DT4CKJ9642,S84HT532DAKQCAQ85,SAKT52HQJD876CT73,S963HA9874DJ9532C|sv|n|nt|othered1: @H return killed entries to dummy|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: on the protest|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|othered1: 2@H presumably a 2-suiter|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|othered1: Not too much to this one. Makes (on @S lead) with @H 2-2 and has some extra chances, such as the @C lead from the K|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmac: since the 2 suiter dont include spades, spade q seems more thoughtfull lead|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|othered1: really, whichever lets you cash your side suit tricks is best. |pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|rmac: single imps are more important than most think|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST962H854D82CAJ94,SKQ8753HJ2DJT9C86,SJHK93DK7543CKQ53,SA4HAQT76DAQ6CT72|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h7|mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST962H854D82CAJ94,SKQ8753HJ2DJT9C86,SJHK93DK7543CKQ53,SA4HAQT76DAQ6CT72|sv|e|nt|othered1: Do you really lead to save 1 imp on auctions like this?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|rmac: no, but spade seems best to try to beat also|pg|| nt|othered1: Standard 1N despite good 5-card major (not my preference, but I'm not hep)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: but as a practical matter, not all contracts are beatable so save where you can|pg|| pc|h4|nt|othered1: South-African Texas (transfer to @S) among other benefits, it avoids memory lapses after the 4@H transfer in standard Texas |pg|| nt|rmac: good point, ed|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|othered1: that's a friendly lead, not that it matters so much on the lie of the red suits|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|rmac: just make declarer more comfortable|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|othered1: A Grosvenor by south. (making a play that can lose a trick but for which declarer can't play).|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|nt|othered1: And, since J 10 and 9 were out, this wasn't a simple restricted choice situation|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|mc|12|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAQJ983HT8D6CT653,S65HQ2DAQ842CKJ87,STHKJ654DJT53CAQ2,SK742HA973DK97C94|sv|b|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAQJ983HT8D6CT653,S65HQ2DAQ842CKJ87,STHKJ654DJT53CAQ2,SK742HA973DK97C94|sv|b|nt|othered1: Routine first seat weak 2@S, if they play it.|pg|| nt|othered1: 2@S will likely buy the contract and probably will go plus|pg|| nt|othered1: Are the players taking a break?|pg|| nt|rmac: i like rule of 2,3,4 for preempts so south hand perfect|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm not a rule user exactly, but a minimum vul weak 2 has a good suit and some shape. South qualifies|pg|| nt|othered1: Same standard I've used for about 50 years.|pg|| nt|rmac: we would probably come to same place on most hands|pg|| nt|rmac: showing your age|pg|| nt|othered1: I wouldn't open with AQJ98x, xx, xx, xxx |pg|| nt|rmac: nor i|pg|| nt|vugraph117: sry.. missed the bidding and play|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm told their multi is 2-8 HCP, while a 2-bid is 8.5 to 12. That would have made this a 2@D opener|pg|| nt|othered1: 3-8 hcp|pg|| nt|rmac: 2-8 vul?|pg|| nt|rmac: too rich for me|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|othered1: 3 to 8, that's what I'm told, controlled by the 2 types of weak 2's. Keeps partner from going overboard. but I wonder if the opponents are allowed to listen in and act?|pg|| mc|10|nt|rmac: dont like 3s at all|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S65HQ9DA52CJT9532,S3HA432DQ86CAK876,SAT987HT865DT94CQ,SKQJ42HKJ7DKJ73C4|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|xy-nt|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S65HQ9DA52CJT9532,S3HA432DQ86CAK876,SAT987HT865DT94CQ,SKQJ42HKJ7DKJ73C4|sv|o|nt|othered1: Nor I. and 170 is a very nice score|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: is 2c natural at this point? i say yes|pg|| nt|othered1: From what I see on BBO, it seems like a large percentage of Europeans overcall on north's junk. A little foreign to American eyes.|pg|| mb|p|pc|c4|nt|rmac: not to my taste an overcall should show some tricks or a suit i know i want lead|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|rmac: this bid has nothing to recommend it imo|pg|| nt|othered1: looks like only 500, not a major loss against a making 3N|pg|| nt|rmac: true rather lucky in my view|pg|| nt|rmac: but what about the effect it has on future auctions?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|othered1: Little effect in an expert partnership that agrees to t his style. Different story if north is a pro with a customer in south|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|rmac: yes|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ875HJTDAKJT6C42,ST43HKQ752DQ4CAK8,SAQ62H93D975CQT95,SK9HA864D832CJ763|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4+ sp|mb|2D|an|good raise|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ875HJTDAKJT6C42,ST43HKQ752DQ4CAK8,SAQ62H93D975CQT95,SK9HA864D832CJ763|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: NS can make 1@S or 2, while EW does better in @H|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|rmac: aa missed out on the bermuda bowl win but very fine player|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|othered1: Only 2@H by east. Hasn't The Law been passed in Norway?|pg|| nt|rmac: was on norway national team for years|pg|| nt|othered1: (FWIW, I agree with 2@H)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 3h to me with or wo the law|pg|| nt|rmac: gl inger|pg|| pc|d5|nt|othered1: with @SA onside, this should go quickly|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|rmac: make us commentators look good|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|othered1: That looks like a really risky play (essentially playing south for both @CQ and @SA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|rmac: yes it does with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKJ94HAK52DAKJ8C8,S53HT7DQ9763CAQT6,SQ876HQ643D54CK73,SAT2HJ98DT2CJ9542|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKJ94HAK52DAKJ8C8,S53HT7DQ9763CAQT6,SQ876HQ643D54CK73,SAT2HJ98DT2CJ9542|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rmac: extremely low scoring match|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|othered1: 4 of either major looks normal here and will make|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: I like the 4@C bid, pretty classical (raise to game plu7s a singleton)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|rmac: me2|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|othered1: No @S ruff, no problem|pg|| nt|rmac: no second choice|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA9HQ982DJ82CKJT8,SQJT872HT76DT97C2,SK63HK3D654CA9765,S54HAJ54DAKQ3CQ43|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA9HQ982DJ82CKJT8,SQJT872HT76DT97C2,SK63HK3D654CA9765,S54HAJ54DAKQ3CQ43|sv|o|nt|othered1: Tjhere|pg|| nt|othered1: There's one of those 3 point weak 2's (though not vul here)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|othered1: Made at other table|pg|| nt|rmac: yes i noticed that looks ok if thats your range|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|othered1: I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use multi with the stronger hand and weak 2 with weaker, from the standpoint of better preemption. Of course, if you open on absolute junk, ...|pg|| nt|othered1: maybe it's best to give the opponents more room to take you out :)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: qjxxxx or k109xxx about only 3 pointers i can visualize|pg|| pc|h9|nt|rmac: but would have gotten to play 2s had he passed|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJT93HJ9D96432CJ9,SA87HQ7632DJCA863,SK642HT5DT87CKQ72,SQ5HAK84DAKQ5CT54|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|an|jacoby, gf|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJT93HJ9D96432CJ9,SA87HQ7632DJCA863,SK642HT5DT87CKQ72,SQ5HAK84DAKQ5CT54|sv|n|nt|rmac: i think multi with better hand is superior for the reason you just stated|pg|| nt|othered1: Thhey can say it's a good save over 3@C|pg|| mb|1H|nt|othered1: Good @H slam here. But it needs the @DJ, a tough card to evaluate|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|rmac: that presumes they will bid 3c over 1nt/2h/2s/p/p|pg|| nt|othered1: In the other room, east managed to stop in 4@H, perhaps with a serious 3N along the way.|pg|| nt|othered1: If east can find the singleton @D in west's hand, it may turn him off|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N!|nt|rmac: true|pg|| nt|othered1: We're duplicating the open room's auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S!|nt|othered1: Personally, if east has made a serious slam try, west's hand with controls in all side suits, is too good to sign off, despite the high card minimum|pg|| nt|rmac: east may find a 5d call over 4h|pg|| nt|othered1: And here west didn't.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|rmac: good choice by west|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: Now the question is to avoid getting too high|pg|| mb|5S|nt|rmac: still needs di jack tho|pg|| nt|othered1: probalby now 5N then sign off|pg|| mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: well judged.|pg|| nt|rmac: finally, some imps|pg|| nt|othered1: I"m told 3@H showed minimum, so east's auction is logical (as was west's continuation, once east showed slam interest)|pg|| nt|rmac: agree|pg|| pc|cK|nt|rmac: west very wise to hold di jack|pg|| nt|othered1: But I wonder if they would have gotten there without the @DJ?|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| nt|rmac: looks like they would|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|rmac: n/w will be very bummed out i think|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h3|nt|rmac: but luck follows the bold|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SK98HAKT62DT6CKJ3,SA5HQ854DJ87C7652,S42H73DA9432CQT94,SQJT763HJ9DKQ5CA8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|c8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SK98HAKT62DT6CKJ3,SA5HQ854DJ87C7652,S42H73DA9432CQT94,SQJT763HJ9DKQ5CA8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 110 the limit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: 1N? A pro-am bid to me.|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|othered1: But north has no sense of humor and they might find their 4-3 in @C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: i think they will|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|othered1: All west needs to do is to lead partner's suit for an easy -1|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| nt|rmac: 1nt wins an imp|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|c2|nt|othered1: East takes what's under his thumb and NS pick up 1 IMP|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|7|nt|rmac: but could have been a disaster with a different layout no worth the risk|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ86HKQ6432D6CAT3,SAJT92HA9D873CKQ2,SK7H5DAKQJT42C964,S543HJT87D95CJ875|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|h3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ86HKQ6432D6CAT3,SAJT92HA9D873CKQ2,SK7H5DAKQJT42C964,S543HJT87D95CJ875|sv|o|nt|othered1: This is still a close and reasonably well-played match, with only the slam producing a nontrivial swing so far.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|othered1: If yoiu open 2 on 8.5 to 12, this looks to qualify|pg|| nt|othered1: Or is south's hand too distributed?|pg|| nt|rmac: and, the slam was 11 away wo the unknown di jack luck of the draw|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like a 1h to me|pg|| nt|othered1: Probably. there were still single-dummy endplay chances|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rmac: i would bid 3nt over 1s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|othered1: I don't see a reason not to get my long suit into the auction. And from the 3@D bid made, my guess is that there are artificial meanings for some apparantly natural alternatives|pg|| nt|rmac: probably right|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s5|nt|othered1: Declarer may be able to play this into an overtrick|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|h6|nt|rmac: west needs to unblock club honor|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|hT|pc|cT|nt|othered1: In the other room, north bid 2@D, then committed a 2@S cue-bid over partner's rebid and the auction seems to have spun out of hand thereafter|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|nt|rmac: the danger of too many bids|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S965HQT7DAT6543C3,S8HAKJ963DK9CAJT8,ST72H854DQ82CKQ94,SAKQJ43H2DJ7C7652|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S965HQT7DAT6543C3,S8HAKJ963DK9CAJT8,ST72H854DQ82CKQ94,SAKQJ43H2DJ7C7652|sv|n|nt|rmac: must bid 3nt at some point|pg|| nt|othered1: Instead of jumping north in other room bid a simple 2@D then cue-bid twice. Too many bids, indeed.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rmac: 2d then 2nt spade bids only confuse|pg|| nt|othered1: and it does look like those 1 imp swings will have an effect on the match winner here|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|rmac: it's surprising how many events a decided by an imp or 2|pg|| nt|othered1: 5@S in the other room was a lucky fetch|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: If you lose the first 2@D and get @C back, you|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: willhate your chances at 5|pg|| nt|rmac: at the top level, evey card played is important|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|othered1: with @D ace gone, declarer won't have any tough decisions to make. Low @C initially might have changed his perspective.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c8|nt|rmac: or a low di|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h3|nt|rmac: and club at trick 3|pg|| nt|othered1: At worst, Lund's lead has tied the match|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|12|nt|othered1: But we have half a match to go, so nothing decisive is in play here|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SKQH642DAKJ4CAQJ7,S763HAKT85DQ9C654,SAJ95HQJDT8763C93,ST842H973D52CKT82|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|an|no 4/5c majors|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|mc|7|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SKQH642DAKJ4CAQJ7,S763HAKT85DQ9C654,SAJ95HQJDT8763C93,ST842H973D52CKT82|sv|e|nt|rmac: has been very well played, as expected|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ritong: expensive opening lead coming|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|othered1: likely pointcount 3N auction as in the other room. On actual lie of cards 5@D is only sure game|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|nt|othered1: looks like 5-card major stayman and denial of 4 or 5-card major by opener|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: HIgh lead pushes, anything else loses game swing|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ritong: oy|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|rmac: last hand tx to james, our outstanding operator and tx to kibs for attending. tx also to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possibe. and tx ed, always a preasure ...|pg|| nt|rmac: working with you|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks Ralph. and thanks, James, for the terrific presentation and specs for keeping me hep to what's going on. |pg|| nt|ritong: should get @ds right, since if AK fails, he can recover with friendky @ss and @c K on|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|rmac: hi henry|pg|| nt|ritong: hi|pg|| nt|rmac: henri sorry|pg|| nt|ritong: np|pg|| nt|othered1: Specs note that beating 3N 2 tricks was likely going to give BK2 a couple of imps anyway. Here it will be 11.|pg|| nt|othered1: And also that declarer hasn't made this contract yet.|pg|| nt|ritong: well, if he follows riton s way, he will make lol|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|ritong: uh oh|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|nt|rmac: wow|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s9|nt|ritong: a bit strange|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|othered1: still 2 imps north-south|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|ritong: single shot instead of a double one|pg|| nt|othered1: But the line Henri suggested is better|pg|| mc|8|nt|rmac: sure is we had wrong decl|pg|| nt|ritong: two horses batter than one, ya right:)|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks again everyone and bye for now|pg|| pg||