vg|Norwegian Team Championship,Round 6 - 1_ half,I,1,16,Stavanger BK,0,Heimdal 2,0| rs|2DN=,1NS=,2SS-2,1NS=,3HW=,2HW+1,4SS=,4SS=,4HE+1,5CNx-1,2SS-1,2HN=,4SW-1,2SW=,5CE+2,3NE+1,4SE+1,3DN=,3DS=,3DS=,4DW-3,1NS-1,4HN=,4HS-1,3DE=,3DE=,3CS-1,3CS-1,2DW=,2HN-1,4SW=,4SW-1| pn|Strøm,Lund,Moen,Aa,Helgemo,Lauvsnes,Austberg,Bjelland|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SK6HA7632D742CAKJ,SAQ83HJT95DAJCQ54,SJ742HK4DQT863C63,ST95HQ8DK95CT9872|sv|o|nt|xenya: i like Dave's way of playing trumps on the previous board|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|mrdct: @H lead might beat 1NT|pg|| nt|rmac: yes still makes if north has 4|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mrdct: Aa relieved to see 2@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: and no line is 100 per cent|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|rmac: what was2c?|pg|| nt|vugraph116: Majors|pg|| nt|xenya: majors i presume|pg|| nt|mrdct: trump switch looks indicated now|pg|| nt|rmac: really?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|rmac: hard to tell looking at his hand|pg|| nt|rmac: 44 is not my style|pg|| nt|xenya: he had 4-4 in them|pg|| nt|mrdct: well he does have both Majors|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| nt|rmac: making 2 for a push|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|nt|mrdct: could've made an overtrick by leading a @S towards the J - but this line is nice and safe for 8 tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SK6HA7632D742CAKJ,SAQ83HJT95DAJCQ54,SJ742HK4DQT863C63,ST95HQ8DK95CT9872|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|nt|vugraph117: test|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|andersk: Hi all|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|nt|andersk: ruff @C and play @S will work here|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAK753H432DKQ3CA7,SJT82HAQJDAT82C53,SQ96H876D974CJ642,S4HKT95DJ65CKQT98|sv|n|nt|rmac: west in other room didnt show his majors for some reason|pg|| nt|xenya: could have made an overtrick if he had established spades instead of hearts|pg|| nt|xenya: sorry Dave|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rmac: gotta be quick, vlad|pg|| nt|xenya: right|pg|| nt|mrdct: west will do well to find a @C lead here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|2S|nt|rmac: i like 1nt with 3h; with 2, i open 1s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|mrdct: @C lead still best here|pg|| nt|rmac: and duly found|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| nt|xenya: E's 2@H showed a 2-suiter with 4 @Hs i think, so the club lead looks quite reasonable|pg|| nt|mrdct: i wonder what 2@H is? @H & minor?|pg|| nt|xenya: must be|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|rmac: looks like d2|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|vugraph116: 4@h and longer minor|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: not much sitting right for declarer here|pg|| nt|xenya: then a club stands out i think|pg|| nt|rmac: still be a puch|pg|| nt|mrdct: overruff, cash 3 rounds of @H finishing with east and then lead another @C through for the trump promotion|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|rmac: aa was a mainstay of the norwegian national team. had the bad fortund not to be on the bermuda bowel-winng team|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mrdct: og course there are several ways to get this two down|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|6|nt|rmac: fortune|pg|| nt|mrdct: bowl :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAK753H432DKQ3CA7,SJT82HAQJDAT82C53,SQ96H876D974CJ642,S4HKT95DJ65CKQT98|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|andersk: Welcome to Thomas Nylund and Terjei Eck Hansen from Norway|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|nt|tmice: Thx Anders|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S9864HQJ9DKQ4C976,SAQ53HT542DATCJ43,ST7HA6D8532CKQ852,SKJ2HK873DJ976CAT|sv|e|nt|rmac: yes not a typing major|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a chance that EW might try for a vul game in @H here|pg|| nt|rmac: as i said earlier, must be quick|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|xenya: they certainly migh|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|xenya: *might|pg|| nt|rmac: west distribution too sterile, should only invite|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|xenya: inviting?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|rmac: good stop|pg|| nt|xenya: indeed -- 3 should make|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mrdct: lund had the advantage of being a passed hand so whatever he does his partner knows he's limited|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|rmac: a flattish 12 should still reject|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, and although 2N has been alerted, it looks like a perfectly natural bid|pg|| nt|mrdct: some may even have passed in this hand in 4th seat|pg|| pc|h7|nt|rmac: although overbidding vul is very common|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|rmac: being vul dont make a bad hand better. pard also knows the vulnerability|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|mrdct: they judged it well|pg|| mc|9|nt|rmac: true|pg|| nt|rmac: accuracy in part scores should be primary|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S9864HQJ9DKQ4C976,SAQ53HT542DATCJ43,ST7HA6D8532CKQ852,SKJ2HK873DJ976CAT|sv|e|nt|tmice: aha... VP punishment....?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello all |pg|| nt|othered1: this should get to an easy 4@S or a lucky 3N|pg|| nt|vugraph117: think so|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: hi kibs hi shirley|pg|| nt|sybarra: and Ed is here also |pg|| nt|othered1: looks like south must bid game here, as there's a play opposite @Sxxxxx and out|pg|| nt|rmac: hi ed|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|nt|othered1: Hi, Ralph! rehi, Shirley!|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|nt|sybarra: Thomas you here?|pg|| nt|rmac: hi inger|pg|| nt|tmice: yes i am:) hi Shirley|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|sybarra: great! |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|sybarra: ok leaviing you 3 gentleman to carry on |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|rmac: i assume 4h would not be a retransfer|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAKQ94HK9DJ4CQ753,ST72HA32DQ9732CA9,SJ863HQ754DAKTC42,S5HJT86D865CKJT86|sv|b|nt|rmac: bidding and going dn is 6 imps. a nv game swing is only 7|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: 2@c and a @h to lose in 4@s here which looks pretty easy to bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rmac: trump leads will give it problems|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: if need be you can take a @d finesse|pg|| nt|rmac: but dia hook works|pg|| mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|rmac: this will speed it up|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|rmac: looked like best lead to beat; requires the least|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, a trump lead would have been much better, and actually it looks appealing from E's perspective|pg|| nt|xenya: *W's|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|mc|10|nt|rmac: well, the club lead only requres kxxx in east|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAKQ94HK9DJ4CQ753,ST72HA32DQ9732CA9,SJ863HQ754DAKTC42,S5HJT86D865CKJT86|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|othered1: EW are probably best out of this auction, unless they can stop pretty low|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|Tornto/drury|mb|p|nt|rmac: 4s wont quite fetch |pg|| nt|othered1: The @H opening should put a damper on NS's ambitions here.|pg|| mb|2D!|an|Good opening|mb|p|nt|rmac: luckily|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|othered1: Do you think east's raise was automatic, given the @H misfit?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: no, i would pass first rule of misfits is to pass asap|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: Only 2 losers off the top and the @D suit running may make this easy.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|rmac: would rather be in 2 than 4|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| nt|tmice: have to go to... have fun...:)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|rmac: tx tom|pg|| nt|othered1: On a good day, however, 5@C can score an overtrick.|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rmac: also true but i dont have many good days|pg|| nt|rmac: and does 2c promise 4? not with me|pg|| nt|othered1: we can see an easy 5, just play a low trump. But declarer doesn't know that there's a miracle @D lie.|pg|| nt|rmac: i would bid 2 dia as east, not 3c|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|rmac: unless 2c guarantees at least 4|pg|| mc|10|nt|othered1: If 1N was forcing in a 2/1-type style, then 2@C may be short and I think a 2@D rebid by east is perferable|pg|| nt|othered1: But here declarer is just playing for his contract and will make it easily on this line|pg|| nt|rmac: 5c would have been more exciting|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S98632H965D95CQ43,SQJ4HKJ74DJ42C982,ST7H8DAK6CAKJT765,SAK5HAQT32DQT873C|sv|n|nt|mrdct: this one looks interesting|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW likely to confront a difficult 5-level decision|pg|| nt|mrdct: it looks like EW can make 5@d but not 5@h due to the @d ruff|pg|| nt|rmac: 4c by north; 4h ew|pg|| nt|mrdct: looks like there was some sort of technical glitch there|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|rmac: 5di a bit scary|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|rmac: will be dn several if it dont make|pg|| nt|mrdct: it's unrealistic for EW to get to 5@d when they have a perfectly good 9 card @H fit|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|mrdct: moen bidding 3@C instead of 3@H this time?|pg|| nt|rmac: sorry crashed|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|xenya: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: sure is |pg|| nt|rmac: dont give opps any unnecessary info|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: on a slightly different auction in the closed room, helgemo foud the @C raise for a good result for Heimdal 2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|rmac: 5c a reasonable shot|pg|| nt|rmac: might push ew beyond their limit|pg|| pc|c2|nt|mrdct: south's problem here is that he doesn;t really know partner has 7@C from the 3@H bid|pg|| nt|mrdct: moen still thinking?|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S98632H965D95CQ43,SQJ4HKJ74DJ42C982,ST7H8DAK6CAKJT765,SAK5HAQT32DQT873C|sv|n|nt|othered1: @H return killed entries to dummy|pg|| mb|1C|nt|rmac: on the protest|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|7-10 and heart support|nt|othered1: 2@H presumably a 2-suiter|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4H|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|othered1: Not too much to this one. Makes (on @S lead) with @H 2-2 and has some extra chances, such as the @C lead from the K|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|rmac: since the 2 suiter dont include spades, spade q seems more thoughtfull lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|othered1: really, whichever lets you cash your side suit tricks is best. |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|rmac: single imps are more important than most think|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAK8542HT9DK8CT83,SJ763HQ65D97CA976,ST9HAJ843DQT4CQ54,SQHK72DAJ6532CKJ2|sv|e|nt|xenya: we all did it seems|pg|| nt|rmac: ah thought it was my vista|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mrdct: the 6-2 @S fit looks superior to the the 5-2 @H on the surface|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|mrdct: but the @Hs break and the @Ss don't|pg|| nt|rmac: 2s d1|pg|| nt|rmac: maybe|pg|| nt|vugraph116: we lost connection, but are now back online, so bare with us|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|xenya: true, so the leaders have been lucky here|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h9|nt|rmac: cant untagle the di trick|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmac: untangle|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No problem Erik, most of us were thrown out|pg|| nt|mrdct: does he have his own private internet connection?|pg|| nt|mrdct: @C now by west seems to make sense|pg|| nt|mrdct: @H doesn't look right as declarer is playing on that suit and there is nothing for dummy to ruff|pg|| nt|xenya: again, as on board 2, declarer simply doesn't have 8 tricks|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|Walddk2: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx for standings and running scores in all four matches|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| mc|7|nt|mrdct: 1 off|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAK8542HT9DK8CT83,SJ763HQ65D97CA976,ST9HAJ843DQT4CQ54,SQHK72DAJ6532CKJ2|sv|e|nt|othered1: Do you really lead to save 1 imp on auctions like this?|pg|| mb|1D|nt|rmac: no, but spade seems best to try to beat also|pg|| nt|othered1: Standard 1N despite good 5-card major (not my preference, but I'm not hep)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|rmac: but as a practical matter, not all contracts are beatable so save where you can|pg|| pc|sA|nt|othered1: South-African Texas (transfer to @S) among other benefits, it avoids memory lapses after the 4@H transfer in standard Texas |pg|| nt|rmac: good point, ed|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|nt|othered1: that's a friendly lead, not that it matters so much on the lie of the red suits|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rmac: just make declarer more comfortable|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|nt|othered1: A Grosvenor by south. (making a play that can lose a trick but for which declarer can't play).|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|othered1: And, since J 10 and 9 were out, this wasn't a simple restricted choice situation|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SATHT7652D9542CA5,S87432HAKJ8DAQ7CT,SKQ9H943DK83CJ643,SJ65HQDJT6CKQ9872|sv|b|nt|rmac: but defense could always beat|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: EW almost have game values here at this vul|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mrdct: but 2@S looks like their limit as is happens|pg|| nt|mrdct: lost of wastage|pg|| nt|mrdct: lots*|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|xenya: indeed -- EW in the other room did very well to stop in 2@S |pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a meek but successful simple raise to 2@S was made by east in the closed room|pg|| nt|rmac: yes, transportation too bad for 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|mrdct: east sort of double counting his @HQ|pg|| nt|xenya: i was somewhat surprised by W's pass -- for a brief moment|pg|| nt|rmac: declarer will love those trumps|pg|| nt|mrdct: the danger with east upgrading is that if his partner doesn't have the @CA it is unlikely that the @C suit will be of much use|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, very true|pg|| nt|rmac: and 3 bad trumps wont be what p is expecting|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|mrdct: might get out for -1 now|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|nt|mrdct: can pitch the @D losers on the @HAK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|rmac: if you expect partner to use good judgement, dont give him bad information|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|mrdct: but south will score the @S10 now|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|xenya: so Stavanger gets on the board |pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|nt|mrdct: defensive cross-ruff now available|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SATHT7652D9542CA5,S87432HAKJ8DAQ7CT,SKQ9H943DK83CJ643,SJ65HQDJT6CKQ9872|sv|b|nt|othered1: Routine first seat weak 2@S, if they play it.|pg|| nt|othered1: 2@S will likely buy the contract and probably will go plus|pg|| nt|othered1: Are the players taking a break?|pg|| nt|rmac: i like rule of 2,3,4 for preempts so south hand perfect|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm not a rule user exactly, but a minimum vul weak 2 has a good suit and some shape. South qualifies|pg|| nt|othered1: Same standard I've used for about 50 years.|pg|| nt|rmac: we would probably come to same place on most hands|pg|| nt|rmac: showing your age|pg|| nt|othered1: I wouldn't open with AQJ98x, xx, xx, xxx |pg|| nt|rmac: nor i|pg|| nt|vugraph117: sry.. missed the bidding and play|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm told their multi is 2-8 HCP, while a 2-bid is 8.5 to 12. That would have made this a 2@D opener|pg|| nt|othered1: 3-8 hcp|pg|| nt|rmac: 2-8 vul?|pg|| nt|rmac: too rich for me|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|othered1: 3 to 8, that's what I'm told, controlled by the 2 types of weak 2's. Keeps partner from going overboard. but I wonder if the opponents are allowed to listen in and act?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: dont like 3s at all|pg|| mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2ST973HQT2DJ9865C3,SJ85H54DKQT7CQ976,SQ642HJ93D43CK542,SAKHAK876DA2CAJT8|sv|o|nt|mrdct: east has a good hand here|pg|| nt|rmac: 7c ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: 6@C more realistic|pg|| nt|rmac: just bidding 6 of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: let's see if EW's methods can find the minor 8-card fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|rmac: dont bid iffy grands unless far behind|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: many systems can't as they are geared around locating the major fit|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rmac: 2c/2d/2h/2nt/3c should get there|pg|| nt|mrdct: east choosing to bid 2@H rather than 2NT increases their chances of finding it|pg|| nt|rmac: chance for 10 more|pg|| nt|rmac: i think 2h much better than 2nt|pg|| nt|xenya: still not certain they will bid it |pg|| nt|xenya: yes, 2@H is much better|pg|| nt|xenya: E's hand is suit-oriented|pg|| nt|rmac: as little as kxxx of clubs gives 6c play|pg|| nt|rmac: and kqxx and dub heart makes it virtually cold|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: east also had knowledge that west doesn;t have 3 @H - so no loser there and a chance to establish the suit|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|rmac: exactly|pg|| nt|rmac: will get there easily good bidding doesnt have to be complicated|pg|| nt|mrdct: east will be genuinely thinking of the grand now - will bid 6@C for sure|pg|| nt|rmac: visualize the play and you can anticipate the bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D!|an|cue|mb|p|nt|rmac: an intelligent exchange of information-exactly what good bidding is about|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: a query for my norweigan friends: is the correct spelling of east's name "Aa" or "A" with a circle on top?|pg|| nt|rmac: pass? really?|pg|| nt|mrdct: lol - just as we were pumping them up!|pg|| nt|vugraph116: His name is Terje Aa|pg|| pc|d5|nt|rmac: i play cheaper minor is second neg|pg|| nt|rmac: easy to spell|pg|| nt|mrdct: well i managed to muck it up!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|rmac: must do some work now will be back later tx all|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|mrdct: could be Aa, A or Å :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The bridge player with the world's shortest surname|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Å is ok|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|xenya: so a flat board|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|mc|13|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2ST973HQT2DJ9865C3,SJ85H54DKQT7CQ976,SQ642HJ93D43CK542,SAKHAK876DA2CAJT8|sv|o|nt|othered1: Nor I. and 170 is a very nice score|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|an|strong|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|an|22-24|nt|rmac: is 2c natural at this point? i say yes|pg|| nt|othered1: From what I see on BBO, it seems like a large percentage of Europeans overcall on north's junk. A little foreign to American eyes.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|rmac: not to my taste an overcall should show some tricks or a suit i know i want lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| nt|rmac: this bid has nothing to recommend it imo|pg|| nt|othered1: looks like only 500, not a major loss against a making 3N|pg|| nt|rmac: true rather lucky in my view|pg|| nt|rmac: but what about the effect it has on future auctions?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|othered1: Little effect in an expert partnership that agrees to t his style. Different story if north is a pro with a customer in south|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|rmac: yes|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SKTH9653DA976CKT5,SQ865HKJT87D4C743,SJ92HQ42DKQJ83C62,SA743HADT52CAQJ98|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: The table with interesting surnames Strøm means "current" (as in water or electricity) ... and Lund = "grove"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mrdct: and what's Moen?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: hmmm|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: I don't think that translates to anything meaningful|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: EW can make a few tricks in spades here, but it was NS whou bought the contract in CR...|pg|| mb|2S|nt|mrdct: i think at this vul north should've found some way into the auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4@S looks makable|pg|| pc|h5|nt|xenya: yes -- 1@D, 1@S and 1@C to lose, on the face of it|pg|| nt|mrdct: might try @HJ to induce a cover here|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|mrdct: 7 did the job|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| nt|mrdct: 12 imps coming up for heimdal 2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Å = "stream" in Norwegian as well as Danish|pg|| nt|xenya: declarer needs trumps 3-2 and some luck in one of the black suits, so he naturally goes fot trumps first|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The Danes have one more one-letter word (the Norwegians have not" .... ø = "island"|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mrdct: an original low @d lead and then a @c back would've set north up to get a ruff - but a tough one to find if north doesn't bid @d|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sQ|nt|xenya: a huge swing for the leaders|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SKTH9653DA976CKT5,SQ865HKJT87D4C743,SJ92HQ42DKQJ83C62,SA743HADT52CAQJ98|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|othered1: NS can make 1@S or 2, while EW does better in @H|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|rmac: aa missed out on the bermuda bowl win but very fine player|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|othered1: Only 2@H by east. Hasn't The Law been passed in Norway?|pg|| nt|rmac: was on norway national team for years|pg|| nt|othered1: (FWIW, I agree with 2@H)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|rmac: looks like 3h to me with or wo the law|pg|| nt|rmac: gl inger|pg|| pc|h3|nt|othered1: with @SA onside, this should go quickly|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s7|nt|rmac: make us commentators look good|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|othered1: That looks like a really risky play (essentially playing south for both @CQ and @SA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|rmac: yes it does with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SJ32HQ72DKQ93CJ74,SQT96HAT43D8CAK63,SAK85HKJ5DJ7542C2,S74H986DAT6CQT985|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mrdct: each side here can make 3m|pg|| nt|mrdct: so @d should prevail|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|mrdct: should be a push. brb|pg|| nt|xenya: good prediction|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|nt|xenya: not much to the play here -- declarer probably losing a trick in each suit|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|d9|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SJ32HQ72DKQ93CJ74,SQT96HAT43D8CAK63,SAK85HKJ5DJ7542C2,S74H986DAT6CQT985|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rmac: extremely low scoring match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|2C|nt|othered1: 4 of either major looks normal here and will make|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2N|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: I like the 4@C bid, pretty classical (raise to game plu7s a singleton)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|rmac: me2|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|othered1: No @S ruff, no problem|pg|| nt|rmac: no second choice|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1STHKQT95D6532CQT5,S732H732DKJ94CKJ9,SKQ985HA64DQ7C876,SAJ64HJ8DAT8CA432|sv|o|mb|2H|an|h & Minor|nt|mrdct: defence have lots of quick tricks against any NS contract here|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: east might think this is an EW and enter the auction|pg|| mb|3H|nt|mrdct: *an EW hand|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|mrdct: EW could be in trouble now|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, he was never going to pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|xenya: is it makeable?|pg|| nt|mrdct: i dont think so - and a misguess in trumps will see it go 2 or 3 off|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mrdct: or a duck of the @S lead!|pg|| pc|sA|nt|xenya: yes|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|mrdct: when i'm declarer i hate it when this happens to me|pg|| nt|mrdct: as i'm sure everyone else does|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|mrdct: a few imp for stavanger which they badly need|pg|| nt|xenya: indeed -- i think he was likely to go 2 off anyway -- very difficult to get @Ds right|pg|| nt|xenya: so the @S ruff simplified matters for him -- in a sense|pg|| nt|mrdct: left to his own devices, delcarer may still have got the @DQ wrong, so perhaps south should've exited a @H|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|dT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s5|mc|7|nt|mrdct: lund wont be putting this hand in his memoirs|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1STHKQT95D6532CQT5,S732H732DKJ94CKJ9,SKQ985HA64DQ7C876,SAJ64HJ8DAT8CA432|sv|o|nt|othered1: Tjhere|pg|| nt|othered1: There's one of those 3 point weak 2's (though not vul here)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Made at other table|pg|| nt|rmac: yes i noticed that looks ok if thats your range|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use multi with the stronger hand and weak 2 with weaker, from the standpoint of better preemption. Of course, if you open on absolute junk, ...|pg|| nt|othered1: maybe it's best to give the opponents more room to take you out :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|rmac: qjxxxx or k109xxx about only 3 pointers i can visualize|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|rmac: but would have gotten to play 2s had he passed|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h6|mc|6|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ432HA8765DK4C32,SQ87HKJDT983CAJ54,SAK96HQT92DQ52CKQ,ST5H43DAJ76CT9876|sv|n|nt|xenya: he played for the @C with N, trying for a swueeze, no luck|pg|| nt|xenya: *@CQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: might be a chance to make 4@H here if declarer can organise an endplay on west|pg|| nt|xenya: also *squeeze|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|stayman|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|mrdct: if north is the closed hand, west has a chance to make an error and exit a @s later in the play after the minors are eliminated|pg|| nt|Walddk2: A rare misguess by Helgemo in the end game|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He knew West had three spades to the queen|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So he had to decide whether to double finesse for Q10x or pin the 10 from 10x offside|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|Walddk2: He guessed wrong|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mrdct: there are a few possibilities for the end position here|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mrdct: declarer going for the elimination in @D before needed to make any guesses|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not really, West can just exit with a minor after the elimination and "endplay"|pg|| nt|xenya: and there was no way to endplay W in trumps?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Which happened in the other room|pg|| pc|d6|nt|xenya: ah yes|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: West exited with a club and Helgemo was left with the decision in spades|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|mrdct: yes, but with north the closed hand he may not have count in @S|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|nt|mrdct: this would be called a "Claytons Endplay" in Australia|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|mrdct: the endplay you have when you are not having an endplay|pg|| nt|xenya: now the endplay works|pg|| nt|mrdct: indeed it does due to east flying in with the @DA|pg|| nt|xenya: after declarer was able to pitch a spade on @DQ|pg|| nt|xenya: W understands he is going to be endplayed|pg|| nt|mrdct: my money is on strøm|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Lund thinking about unblocking of course|pg|| nt|vugraph116: Lund is thinking...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He knows what's coming|pg|| nt|mrdct: yes - he can't see that north has the !Q and knows the endplay is coming|pg|| nt|mrdct: *@HQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Even if he follows small after the long tank, he has presented declarer with the spade guess|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He will let it ride|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oh well|pg|| mc|10|nt|Walddk2: Wasn't even put to the test|pg|| nt|mrdct: well earned game swing for stavanger|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ432HA8765DK4C32,SQ87HKJDT983CAJ54,SAK96HQT92DQ52CKQ,ST5H43DAJ76CT9876|sv|n|nt|rmac: i think multi with better hand is superior for the reason you just stated|pg|| nt|othered1: Thhey can say it's a good save over 3@C|pg|| mb|1N|nt|othered1: Good @H slam here. But it needs the @DJ, a tough card to evaluate|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|rmac: that presumes they will bid 3c over 1nt/2h/2s/p/p|pg|| nt|othered1: In the other room, east managed to stop in 4@H, perhaps with a serious 3N along the way.|pg|| nt|othered1: If east can find the singleton @D in west's hand, it may turn him off|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rmac: true|pg|| nt|othered1: We're duplicating the open room's auction|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|othered1: Personally, if east has made a serious slam try, west's hand with controls in all side suits, is too good to sign off, despite the high card minimum|pg|| nt|rmac: east may find a 5d call over 4h|pg|| nt|othered1: And here west didn't.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|rmac: good choice by west|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: Now the question is to avoid getting too high|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: still needs di jack tho|pg|| nt|othered1: probalby now 5N then sign off|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|nt|othered1: well judged.|pg|| nt|rmac: finally, some imps|pg|| nt|othered1: I"m told 3@H showed minimum, so east's auction is logical (as was west's continuation, once east showed slam interest)|pg|| nt|rmac: agree|pg|| pc|cA|nt|rmac: west very wise to hold di jack|pg|| nt|othered1: But I wonder if they would have gotten there without the @DJ?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d9|nt|rmac: looks like they would|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|rmac: n/w will be very bummed out i think|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|nt|rmac: but luck follows the bold|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJ75HKQ9D874CAJT4,SQ643H8632D2CQ976,SAK2HJT4D95CK8532,ST98HA75DAKQJT63C|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx for standings and running scores in all four matches|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: EW could bring 3NT home here if things go well|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Someone's got to bid NT then|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And you can't make 3NT on best defence|pg|| mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|mrdct: probably needed a 3NT opening by east - but most don't like doing that with a side Ace|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Most don't like 3NT at all|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: normal bridge prevails|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am among "most"|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|xenya: indeed it does|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|h6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It takes me about 45 secs to fill in a CC. "I don't play F, 3NT is not a gambling minor, 4@C is never G, and high from a doubleton"|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: you must write slowly|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJ75HKQ9D874CAJT4,SQ643H8632D2CQ976,SAK2HJT4D95CK8532,ST98HA75DAKQJT63C|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 110 the limit|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: 1N? A pro-am bid to me.|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|nt|othered1: But north has no sense of humor and they might find their 4-3 in @C|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|rmac: i think they will|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|dK|nt|othered1: All west needs to do is to lead partner's suit for an easy -1|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|h6|nt|rmac: 1nt wins an imp|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|nt|othered1: East takes what's under his thumb and NS pick up 1 IMP|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c5|nt|rmac: but could have been a disaster with a different layout no worth the risk|pg|| pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SJ7H65DQJ7CKQJ762,SAKQTHAJ97DAT5CT3,S632HKQT83D984CA4,S9854H42DK632C985|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Yes, it takes time to write @C nicely|pg|| nt|mrdct: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: EW have a @S partscore here so might be able to beat the 50 in the other room|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|xenya: they are not likely to bid to 3@S though i think|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|nt|mrdct: they probably won't bid any number of @S now|pg|| nt|mrdct: austberg found a nice 3@C bid at this point in the closed room to end the auction|pg|| mb|r|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: Aa could've taken the view here that the 2nd double pretty much guarantees a 4 card @S suit and bid 2@S here rather than 2@D|pg|| nt|xenya: this is the last board in this room|pg|| pc|sK|nt|mrdct: should be a flat one|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, hard to see where the defence could go wrong|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| mc|8|nt|Walddk2: Thanks all, back in Norway in 45 minutes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|vugraph116: we'll be back at 3:30 pm Oslo, Bergen, Stockholm, Stavanger time - 9:30 am New York time with 2nd half|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SJ7H65DQJ7CKQJ762,SAKQTHAJ97DAT5CT3,S632HKQT83D984CA4,S9854H42DK632C985|sv|o|nt|othered1: This is still a close and reasonably well-played match, with only the slam producing a nontrivial swing so far.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|othered1: If yoiu open 2 on 8.5 to 12, this looks to qualify|pg|| nt|othered1: Or is south's hand too distributed?|pg|| nt|rmac: and, the slam was 11 away wo the unknown di jack luck of the draw|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like a 1h to me|pg|| nt|othered1: Probably. there were still single-dummy endplay chances|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rmac: i would bid 3nt over 1s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|othered1: I don't see a reason not to get my long suit into the auction. And from the 3@D bid made, my guess is that there are artificial meanings for some apparantly natural alternatives|pg|| nt|rmac: probably right|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|othered1: Declarer may be able to play this into an overtrick|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|rmac: west needs to unblock club honor|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|othered1: In the other room, north bid 2@D, then committed a 2@S cue-bid over partner's rebid and the auction seems to have spun out of hand thereafter|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1ST5H986DKT74CJ543,SQ432H752DA9632C9,SAK987HAQJ3D8CQ82,SJ6HKT4DQJ5CAKT76|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h7|nt|xenya: a quiet auction -- N did well, i think, not to get too excited with his 16 hcp and a fine shape|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|xenya: the vulnerability deterred him perhaps|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|xenya: this should make however|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1ST5H986DKT74CJ543,SQ432H752DA9632C9,SAK987HAQJ3D8CQ82,SJ6HKT4DQJ5CAKT76|sv|n|nt|rmac: must bid 3nt at some point|pg|| nt|othered1: Instead of jumping north in other room bid a simple 2@D then cue-bid twice. Too many bids, indeed.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: 2d then 2nt spade bids only confuse|pg|| nt|othered1: and it does look like those 1 imp swings will have an effect on the match winner here|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|rmac: it's surprising how many events a decided by an imp or 2|pg|| nt|othered1: 5@S in the other room was a lucky fetch|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: If you lose the first 2@D and get @C back, you|pg|| pc|cA|nt|othered1: willhate your chances at 5|pg|| nt|rmac: at the top level, evey card played is important|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|othered1: with @D ace gone, declarer won't have any tough decisions to make. Low @C initially might have changed his perspective.|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmac: or a low di|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|rmac: and club at trick 3|pg|| nt|othered1: At worst, Lund's lead has tied the match|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hK|pc|dT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|othered1: But we have half a match to go, so nothing decisive is in play here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SK87HK8432D965CK2,SAJ43HJ7DQ743C985,ST5HAT965DKJ82CT3,SQ962HQDATCAQJ764|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Ralph McNeal|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: tx roland hi specs|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|xenya: 4@H for EW is nice here -- very likely to be bid|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Ralph|pg|| nt|xenya: 4@S of course|pg|| nt|rmac: 3s here if they get their di in time|pg|| nt|xenya: 4 makes here, no?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: will if he pins spade 10|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: yes, needs that|pg|| pc|d8|nt|xenya: not any longer though|pg|| nt|rmac: 4 now|pg|| nt|rmac: dont need pin|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|xenya: i have strong doubts about N's choice|pg|| nt|xenya: to lead a diamond|pg|| nt|rmac: chalk this up to "declarer's advantage" easier to defend from up here|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, that's true of course|pg|| nt|rmac: but i do think heart ace a better choice|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good evening to Dave Thompson|pg|| nt|mrdct: hi everyone|pg|| nt|rmac: hi dave|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Dave|pg|| nt|rmac: thing about 4-1 trumps|pg|| nt|rmac: thinking|pg|| nt|xenya: N's idea was to establish a @D trick while the @HA is still alive -- reasonable enough if he suspects that E has long clubs that might furnish discards|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mrdct: he might play @S to A and then towards the Q9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|rmac: not unreasonable heart ace could easily cost the contract|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|mrdct: and now the claim|pg|| mc|10|nt|rmac: this line would be my choice after dia loser goes away|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SK87HK8432D965CK2,SAJ43HJ7DQ743C985,ST5HAT965DKJ82CT3,SQ962HQDATCAQJ764|sv|e|nt|rmac: has been very well played, as expected|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|ritong: expensive opening lead coming|pg|| mb|4H|nt|othered1: likely pointcount 3N auction as in the other room. On actual lie of cards 5@D is only sure game|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: looks like 5-card major stayman and denial of 4 or 5-card major by opener|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|nt|othered1: HIgh lead pushes, anything else loses game swing|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ritong: oy|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|nt|rmac: last hand tx to james, our outstanding operator and tx to kibs for attending. tx also to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possibe. and tx ed, always a preasure ...|pg|| nt|rmac: working with you|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks Ralph. and thanks, James, for the terrific presentation and specs for keeping me hep to what's going on. |pg|| nt|ritong: should get @ds right, since if AK fails, he can recover with friendky @ss and @c K on|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|nt|rmac: hi henry|pg|| nt|ritong: hi|pg|| nt|rmac: henri sorry|pg|| nt|ritong: np|pg|| nt|othered1: Specs note that beating 3N 2 tricks was likely going to give BK2 a couple of imps anyway. Here it will be 11.|pg|| nt|othered1: And also that declarer hasn't made this contract yet.|pg|| nt|ritong: well, if he follows riton s way, he will make lol|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|ritong: uh oh|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|sK|nt|rmac: wow|pg|| mc|9|pg||