vg|Norwegian Team Championship,Round 4 - 2_ half,I,1,16,Kristiansand BK,20,Bergen Akadem BK,28|
rs|4SN+1,3NN+1,4HW+1,4HW+1,4HS-2,4HS-2,3CN+1,2HE-1,3HE-1,2HE=,2SE+2,4SE=,4SW-2,4SW-2,4SN=,4SS-1,3SN=,3SN-1,4HS-1,2SEx-2,6SW-4,4SW+1,2SN=,3NN=,1NN-1,3HNx-2,4HE=,4HW=,4HE=,4HE+1,5CNx-4,4SE-1|
pn|Stornes,Sveindal,Kvangraven,Kristianse,Rognved,M.Homme,Kvamme,E.Homme|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SAT842HQ42DK983C5,SJHKT873DJ652C832,SQ97HA6DAT74CAT96,SK653HJ95DQCKQJ74|sv|o|nt|royhughes: I'll agree, although I have pity|pg||
nt|vugraph116: ..|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|xenya: and it was at equal vulnerability too...|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|royhughes: no, w vs red|pg||
nt|xenya: ah sorry|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|andersk: I guess N will bid 4@S|pg||
mb|3S|nt|andersk: 3@S now|pg||
mb|p|nt|andersk: and 4|pg||
nt|royhughes: Do you know this  pair, Anders?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: sure|pg||
mb|p|pc|cK|nt|andersk: might be problem to make this|pg||
pc|c5|nt|xenya: 4@S ceratinly looks more reasonable thatn the 3N in the other room|pg||
nt|royhughes: A few good guess will help -- diamonds and spades can be brought in for no losers|pg||
nt|andersk: 11 double dummy, but it has to be played|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|andersk: If he runs a @S now, he is in trouble|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|andersk: more @C now|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|xenya: now the @SQ|pg||
nt|andersk: why didnt Jon play more @C|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|royhughes: It looks like the right idea, doesn't it?|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|xenya: it sure does|pg||
nt|andersk: perfect|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|s6|pg||
nt|xenya: 11 now|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d7|mc|11|nt|xenya: well done -- for a hard earned 1 imp|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SAT842HQ42DK983C5,SJHKT873DJ652C832,SQ97HA6DAT74CAT96,SK653HJ95DQCKQJ74|sv|o|mb|1N!|an|14-16|mb|2S!|an|spade and a minor|mb|d|mb|r!|an|Take out|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|vugraph117: test|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
nt|andersk: Hi all|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d8|nt|andersk: ruff @C and play @S will work here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4ST98543HK82D862C8,SJ2HAT654DQ7CAK73,SKQ76HQJDT53CJT96,SAH973DAKJ94CQ542|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|royhughes: EW have an interesting bidding problem here -- 6@c is a good contract but will fail|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|andersk: I dont think it will fail|pg||
nt|andersk: sry|pg||
nt|andersk: not enuff @D's|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Strange raise to 3@C in the other room. Is that forcing to any of you?|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|royhughes: not me|pg||
mb|p|nt|andersk: not to me|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|xenya: not for me either|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Sveindal went quietly|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Yes, as Roy pointed out 6@C is a good slam. Roughly 68% (clubs 3-2)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|andersk: And EW will be pleased with this @C split|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|royhughes: In a way it is good this board is a push -- a team bidding 6@c would be very unlucky|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|xenya: true|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|andersk: 68% slams are more than enuff for me|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c3|mc|11|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4ST98543HK82D862C8,SJ2HAT654DQ7CAK73,SKQ76HQJDT53CJT96,SAH973DAKJ94CQ542|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|andersk: Welcome to Thomas Nylund and Terjei Eck Hansen from Norway|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|tmice: Thx Anders|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h3|nt|teckh: best contract|pg||
pc|h2|nt|tmice: And there it died...|pg||
nt|tmice: yes good one|pg||
nt|othered1: Hi, everybody, from overcast central Pennslyvania, USA|pg||
nt|andersk: Hi Ed, and welcome!|pg||
nt|tmice: Hi|pg||
nt|andersk: tx all for helping out!  This is my session out, gl all!|pg||
nt|othered1: Bye!|pg||
nt|vugraph117: CR have been sitting wrong way the first 2 boards...|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SKQ9HKT92DAQ6C642,S87532HAQ8D985CJ8,SHJ7643DKT732CKT3,SAJT64H5DJ4CAQ975|sv|e|nt|xenya: it's not often though that you bid a minor-suit game when you have found an 8-card fit in a major suit|pg||
nt|xenya: slam rather|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|royhughes: It was a perfect fit for clubs|pg||
nt|royhughes: So NS play 4-card majors?|pg||
nt|andersk: 4@S makes here on any lead (exsept @D)|pg||
nt|royhughes: Ah, 4-card heart suits and 5 spades|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Standard Norwegian|pg||
nt|royhughes: (I am told by skaeran)|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|d|nt|andersk: not so standard these days|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|andersk: most play 1@H as 4 card if 4-4 in M, if not 5 card|pg||
nt|andersk: as far as I know|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|andersk: will disk a @C|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|andersk: bad line IMO|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
nt|royhughes: It's complicated|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|royhughes: I wondered if declarer might play a heart to the king, to try to keep West out|pg||
nt|andersk: you have possible 3 @C loosers, and can get it to 1 by disk @C|pg||
nt|royhughes: That's true, but maybe 2 clubs can go on diamonds and all 3 spades ruffed|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SKQ9HKT92DAQ6C642,S87532HAQ8D985CJ8,SHJ7643DKT732CKT3,SAJT64H5DJ4CAQ975|sv|e|nt|tmice: aha... VP punishment....?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|sybarra: hello all |pg||
nt|othered1: this should get to an easy 4@S or a lucky 3N|pg||
nt|vugraph117: think so|pg||
mb|2D|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|4 card support and min|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|rmac: hi kibs   hi shirley|pg||
nt|sybarra: and Ed is here also |pg||
nt|othered1: looks like south must bid game here, as there's a play opposite @Sxxxxx and out|pg||
nt|rmac: hi ed|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Hi, Ralph!  rehi, Shirley!|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|sybarra: Thomas you here?|pg||
nt|rmac: hi inger|pg||
nt|tmice: yes i am:) hi Shirley|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|sybarra: great! |pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|sybarra: ok leaviing you 3 gentleman to carry on |pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|tmice: :)|pg||
nt|rmac: i assume 4h would not be a retransfer|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sK|mc|8|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SJ43HAQJDKJCJ9853,ST9872H85DAT742CQ,SK65H974D95CAK764,SAQHKT632DQ863CT2|sv|b|nt|royhughes: Anyway, all lines go down|pg||
nt|andersk: I wouldnt beleve that |pg||
nt|andersk: by the way, @H to 10 is poor! @H to K is my choise|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: I thought he would, too|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Wow, 2@c.  Looks dangerous to me|pg||
nt|andersk: 2@H here not the best spot|pg||
mb|3C|nt|andersk: They like to bid in kristiansand|pg||
nt|royhughes: North bought a good dummy for clubs!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: very dangerous indeed -- but worked quite well here|pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|nt|royhughes: Nice of South to provide 5 trumps, 4 red tricks and spade help|pg||
nt|andersk: I thin EW have 3 @D|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|andersk: 9 card fit and 7 card fit in 2 majors, still opps play the hand|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, but NS can make 4@C|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cA|nt|andersk: is @H K onside?  Yes!  claim!|pg||
nt|royhughes: East was trying for 3 spade tricks|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|xenya: am i missing something? Did E really played @SA on the small spade?|pg||
nt|royhughes: Maybe West led a spade spot that was ambiguous with respect to the king|pg||
nt|andersk: I doubt he didnt unblock|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SJ43HAQJDKJCJ9853,ST9872H85DAT742CQ,SK65H974D95CAK764,SAQHKT632DQ863CT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|5 hearts and a 4card minor|mb|p|nt|othered1: EW are probably best out of this auction, unless they can stop pretty low|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|rmac: 4s wont quite fetch |pg||
nt|othered1: The @H opening should put a damper on NS's ambitions here.|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|rmac: luckily|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s5|nt|othered1: Do you think east's raise was automatic, given the @H misfit?|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|rmac: no, i would pass     first rule of misfits is to pass asap|pg||
pc|s3|nt|othered1: Only 2 losers off the top and the @D suit running may make this easy.|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|rmac: would rather be in 2 than 4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|tmice: have to go to... have fun...:)|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rmac: tx tom|pg||
nt|othered1: On a good day, however, 5@C can score an overtrick.|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rmac: also true      but i dont have many good days|pg||
nt|rmac: and does 2c promise 4?  not with me|pg||
nt|othered1: we can see an easy 5, just play a low trump.  But declarer doesn't know that there's a miracle @D lie.|pg||
nt|rmac: i would bid 2 dia as east, not 3c|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|rmac: unless 2c guarantees at least 4|pg||
pc|sK|nt|othered1: If 1N was forcing in a 2/1-type style, then 2@C may be short and I think a 2@D rebid by east is perferable|pg||
nt|othered1: But here declarer is just playing for his contract and will make it easily on this line|pg||
nt|rmac: 5c would have been more exciting|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|othered1: or maybe not.  I think second trump there would have insured the contract|pg||
pc|h8|nt|rmac: yes     seems wrong play here|pg||
nt|othered1: Actually, this looks like a winning defense at this point|pg||
nt|vugraph117: no Vp penalty. they just erase boards 1 and 2|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|cA|nt|othered1: that's a nice ruling.  In ACBL you get hung for that, routinely.|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|rmac: i mjissed it. what happened?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAK86HJDAT94CJT83,S9743HK43DK7CA754,ST5HT97DJ8632CK62,SQJ2HAQ8652DQ5CQ9|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|Walddk3: Good news for our many Helgemo supporters. He will be on vugraph for the Heimdal 2 match at 19.45 local time, in about 1 hour and 45 minutes|pg||
nt|royhughes: That will please the fans -- but here are many fine Norwegian players|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|royhughes: I think EW can make 3@h -- if NS get the spade ruff, the spade 9 is good for a club pitch|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Resultater.html  for running scores in all four matches|pg||
nt|Walddk3: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=10731050  for participants and standings after round 3|pg||
nt|royhughes: But I guess they can kill the spade 9|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|royhughes: So the defense has a chance|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|andersk: for me small @S is Q or ruff, so @S Q cleared that|pg||
nt|xenya: yes|pg||
nt|xenya: nice defence|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|royhughes: well done|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|royhughes: West bought the contract at the two level in the other room|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pg||
mc|8|nt|andersk: 15-15 in VP now|pg||
pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAK86HJDAT94CJT83,S9743HK43DK7CA754,ST5HT97DJ8632CK62,SQJ2HAQ8652DQ5CQ9|sv|n|nt|othered1: @H return killed entries to dummy|pg||
mb|p|nt|rmac: on the protest|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r|nt|othered1: 2@H presumably a 2-suiter|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|othered1: Not too much to this one. Makes (on @S lead) with @H 2-2 and has some extra chances, such as the @C lead from the K|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: since the 2 suiter dont include spades, spade q seems more thoughtfull lead|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|othered1: really, whichever lets you cash your side suit tricks is best.  |pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rmac: single imps are more important than most think|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|mc|8|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SK52HKQ9542DJTCJ7,SAJ4HAJ87DAK643CQ,SQT3H3D975CK86542,S9876HT6DQ82CAT93|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|royhughes: South opened 1@h in both rooms|pg||
nt|andersk: 1@H for me|pg||
mb|d|nt|andersk: some pictures from the event here: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Bildegalleri.html|pg||
nt|royhughes: It within the range of a weak 2 for me, but I don't object to opening one|pg||
nt|xenya: i would need some more values to open 1@H here|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|royhughes: The 2@h bid is awkward for West|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|xenya: in CR, E bid 2@C over 2@C -- looks questionable to me|pg||
nt|xenya: 2@S rather|pg||
nt|andersk: can Sveindal pass now?|pg||
nt|andersk: I doubt it|pg||
nt|andersk: 3@C?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: i don't understand that|pg||
nt|andersk: he's partenr bidded vouln over a 12 pointer X, and he have 19|pg||
nt|royhughes: NS made it really tough for EW to get to 3N, where I think they belong|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|xenya: surely W's 2nd pass was not forcing, so E had to have a few points?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|royhughes: If EW bid aggressively over 2@c, then maybe the delayed 2@s showed less|pg||
nt|andersk: yes|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|andersk: thats why I dont understand pass from Sveindal|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|royhughes: I have sympathy for West, but the EW methods didn't work too well|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|andersk: what if partne have Kxxxx, xx, Qx, xxx, 4 @S would be my chise|pg||
nt|andersk: choise|pg||
mc|10|nt|royhughes: I think he might bid 2@s on that|pg||
nt|royhughes: directly|pg||
pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SK52HKQ9542DJTCJ7,SAJ4HAJ87DAK643CQ,SQT3H3D975CK86542,S9876HT6DQ82CAT93|sv|e|nt|othered1: Do you really lead to save 1 imp on auctions like this?|pg||
mb|p|nt|rmac: no, but spade seems best to try to beat also|pg||
nt|othered1: Standard 1N despite good 5-card major (not my preference, but I'm not hep)|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|rmac: but as a practical matter, not all contracts are beatable so save where you can|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: South-African Texas  (transfer to @S) among other benefits, it avoids memory lapses after the 4@H transfer in standard Texas |pg||
nt|rmac: good point, ed|pg||
mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|othered1: that's a friendly lead, not that it matters so much on the lie of the red suits|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|rmac: just make declarer more comfortable|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|othered1: A Grosvenor by south.  (making a play that can lose a trick but for which declarer can't play).|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d5|nt|othered1: And, since J 10 and 9 were out, this wasn't a simple restricted choice situation|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1S964HKJ5DQ986C753,SAJ75HA8DA75CKQ42,SQTHT97632DK2CAJ6,SK832HQ4DJT43CT98|sv|b|nt|andersk: after 2@C in North, I doubt it|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think most experts would|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2H|nt|royhughes: Except you only gave the hand 12 cards|pg||
nt|andersk: with that hand i would pass(first cheek if North bid was forceing) then bid @S next time|pg||
mb|d!|nt|andersk: pick a card:)|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|royhughes: :)|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|royhughes: Is bidding normally this spirited in Norway?|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|andersk: for some players it is|pg||
pc|h8|nt|royhughes: The kibitzers assure me that it is|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|andersk: this is clasic, we saw it yesterday too, missed a game, next hand pushing because they missed it prewious hand, and go down!|pg||
nt|xenya: it didn't look too spirited on the previous hand though|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
nt|andersk: I will be away for abt 10 min|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|s3|nt|xenya: nasty lie for EW here -- same 2 down as in CR it seems|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
mc|8|nt|royhughes: I have been chatting -- didn't watch the play closely|pg||
pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1S964HKJ5DQ986C753,SAJ75HA8DA75CKQ42,SQTHT97632DK2CAJ6,SK832HQ4DJT43CT98|sv|b|nt|othered1: Routine first seat weak 2@S,  if they play it.|pg||
nt|othered1: 2@S will likely buy the contract and probably will go plus|pg||
nt|othered1: Are the players taking a break?|pg||
nt|rmac: i like rule of 2,3,4 for preempts so south hand perfect|pg||
nt|othered1: I'm not a rule user exactly, but a minimum vul weak 2 has a good suit and some shape.  South qualifies|pg||
nt|othered1: Same standard I've used for about 50 years.|pg||
nt|rmac: we would probably come to same place on most hands|pg||
nt|rmac: showing your age|pg||
nt|othered1: I wouldn't open with AQJ98x, xx, xx, xxx |pg||
nt|rmac: nor i|pg||
nt|vugraph117: sry.. missed the bidding and play|pg||
nt|othered1: I'm told their multi is 2-8 HCP, while a 2-bid is 8.5 to 12.   That would have made this a 2@D opener|pg||
nt|othered1: 3-8 hcp|pg||
nt|rmac: 2-8 vul?|pg||
nt|rmac: too rich for me|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|neg, 4 spades|mb|2H|nt|othered1: 3 to 8, that's what I'm told, controlled by the 2 types of weak 2's.  Keeps partner from going overboard. but I wonder if the opponents are allowed to listen in and act?|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rmac: dont like 3s at all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SK9732H72DAK8CJ72,S8HAT984D74CKQ984,SAT4HK5DQJT32CAT3,SQJ65HQJ63D965C65|sv|o|nt|xenya: you haven't missed much Roy|pg||
nt|royhughes: Who opens 1@h?|pg||
mb|p|nt|xenya: depends on the state of my stomach|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|d|nt|xenya: i might|pg||
nt|royhughes: It's an opening for me if partner is understanding|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|xenya: a big IF|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: You have to pick your partners carefully|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|royhughes: The defense has a chance on a club shift|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|royhughes: I think declarer needs to duck, double-dummy|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s4|nt|royhughes: Declarer made the normal play and I guess will go down|pg||
nt|xenya: agree|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|royhughes: How about 4 rounds of diamonds?|pg||
nt|royhughes: Maybe declarer is ok then|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, that works|pg||
nt|royhughes: It maybe isn't clear, though|pg||
nt|xenya: but is it clear that ckub ruff is coming?|pg||
nt|royhughes: No, I don't think so|pg||
nt|royhughes: Declarer is trying to work it out|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c5|nt|xenya: how much easier it would have been if declarer had ducked 1st club!|pg||
pc|c7|nt|royhughes: Yes, declarer might have ducked the club king, but that could be wrong, too, like if Kx|pg||
pc|cK|nt|xenya: true|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|hT|nt|royhughes: I'm reminded the shift was to the queen|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg||
pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SK9732H72DAK8CJ72,S8HAT984D74CKQ984,SAT4HK5DQJT32CAT3,SQJ65HQJ63D965C65|sv|o|nt|othered1: Nor I.  and 170 is a very nice score|pg||
mb|2H!|an|5 hearts and and a 4 card minor|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: is 2c natural at this point? i say yes|pg||
nt|othered1: From what I see on BBO, it seems like a large percentage of Europeans overcall on north's junk.  A little foreign to American eyes.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|rmac: not to my taste      an overcall should show some tricks or a suit i know i want lead|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rmac: this bid has nothing to recommend it imo|pg||
nt|othered1: looks like only 500, not a major loss against a making 3N|pg||
nt|rmac: true     rather lucky in my view|pg||
nt|rmac: but what about the effect it has on future auctions?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s7|nt|othered1: Little effect in an expert partnership that agrees to t his style.   Different story if north is a pro with a customer in south|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rmac: yes|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3ST87HA983D63CAKQT,S53HKT4DJ8542C932,SAQJ94H652DT9C865,SK62HQJ7DAKQ7CJ74|sv|e|nt|andersk: re|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|2N|mb|d|nt|xenya: so he made it after all -- haven't been watching the play...|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|andersk: de we all agree on 2 nT|pg||
nt|andersk: not many options |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|royhughes: I agree with 2NT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|xenya: so do i|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|andersk: then we all agree|pg||
nt|royhughes: I agree with the defense, too|pg||
pc|hA|nt|andersk: :)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s7|nt|andersk: now @S to A|pg||
pc|s5|nt|andersk: small @S|pg||
nt|andersk: :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|royhughes: That would be right if East had, say Kx QJ in majors|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
nt|andersk: :)|pg||
nt|andersk: wd|pg||
nt|royhughes: woops!|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cT|nt|royhughes: East had to take the spade and cash out|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h2|nt|andersk: time for a sorry pard|pg||
mc|9|nt|royhughes: It wouldn't appear to him that his partner had anything in spades|pg||
nt|royhughes: Yes, a good time|pg||
nt|andersk: operator tell me, KK said sorry|pg||
pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3ST87HA983D63CAKQT,S53HKT4DJ8542C932,SAQJ94H652DT9C865,SK62HQJ7DAKQ7CJ74|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|2N|nt|othered1: NS can make 1@S or 2, while EW does better in @H|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|rmac: aa missed out on the bermuda bowl win but very fine player|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Only 2@H by east.  Hasn't The Law been passed in Norway?|pg||
nt|rmac: was on norway national team for years|pg||
nt|othered1: (FWIW, I agree with 2@H)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|nt|rmac: looks like 3h to me with or wo the law|pg||
nt|rmac: gl inger|pg||
pc|d6|nt|othered1: with @SA onside, this should go quickly|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rmac: make us commentators look good|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s7|nt|othered1: That looks like a really  risky play (essentially playing south for both @CQ and @SA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|rmac: yes it does with 9 tricks|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SQJ932HA5DAJ96CK3,SK765HKQ43DCQJT94,SAHJT9876DKQ2C876,ST84H2DT87543CA52|sv|b|nt|royhughes: Of course, I wasn't watching the spots -- sometimes partner plays something that makes it harder for you|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|xenya: so more imps to Kristiansand, who seem to be building up a strong lead|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Horrible contract in the other room, and the defence was also  .... oh well, not so good|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Is there something in the system that suggests 1NT on the South hand?|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: not for me|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|Walddk3: The worst bid of them all in the other room has got to be West's double of 1@S|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|andersk: isnt that a std pass?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|Walddk3: She must have pulled the wrong card from the box|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|Walddk3: I can't think of a better explanation|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|royhughes: It looks like EW lost their diamond ruff|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|s3|nt|royhughes: and I guess the defense could have drawn trump and made a club trick|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg||
mc|9|nt|andersk: why didnt he play @S A and @H A @S Q and ruff home on @D and disk @C|pg||
nt|xenya: yes |pg||
nt|andersk: this time @D would been ruffed, but declearer didnt know that|pg||
nt|royhughes: I don't know -- it's a complicated hand|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SQJ932HA5DAJ96CK3,SK765HKQ43DCQJT94,SAHJT9876DKQ2C876,ST84H2DT87543CA52|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rmac: extremely low scoring match|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2D|nt|othered1: 4 of either major looks normal here and will make|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|othered1: I like the 4@C bid, pretty classical (raise to game plu7s a singleton)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|rmac: me2|pg||
pc|h3|nt|othered1: No @S ruff, no problem|pg||
nt|rmac: no second choice|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|sT|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1ST982HKT42D6CJ974,SAQJ3HJDAK973CT62,S6HQ53DT852CAKQ83,SK754HA9876DQJ4C5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|3C|nt|andersk: 4@S I presume|pg||
mb|4S|nt|royhughes: It's a decent slam|pg||
nt|royhughes: Hard to bid -- perfect cards, and could go down as the cards lie|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|royhughes: Quite a bid by East -- evaluating diamond fit, prime controls|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|mb|d|mb|6S|mb|p|nt|andersk: 4@S is  slidgely an overbid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: slam looks cold if trumps are 3-2 i think|pg||
nt|royhughes: Well done in the bidding.  I think a double-dummy diamond lead beats 6|pg||
nt|andersk: maybe @H lead sets it too|pg||
pc|h3|nt|xenya: but the 4-1 trump split seems hard to overcome|pg||
pc|hA|nt|royhughes: Both 4-1s are troublesome|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c6|nt|royhughes: This is bad luck for EW|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|andersk: 11 IMP for Kristiansand|pg||
nt|xenya: unfair|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|sK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|nt|andersk: 12 now|pg||
nt|xenya: now declarer has lost control and is going down a lot|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
mc|8|nt|royhughes: I think he needed to play as he did, maybe, to get to 12 when trumps 3-2|pg||
nt|xenya: looks like that, yes|pg||
nt|royhughes: It's a tough game|pg||
nt|andersk: I cant see anything wrong with the line|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1ST982HKT42D6CJ974,SAQJ3HJDAK973CT62,S6HQ53DT852CAKQ83,SK754HA9876DQJ4C5|sv|o|nt|othered1: Tjhere|pg||
nt|othered1: There's one of those 3 point weak 2's (though not vul here)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|othered1: Made at other table|pg||
nt|rmac: yes i noticed that     looks ok if thats your range|pg||
mb|3C|mb|d|an|negative|mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|othered1: I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use multi with the stronger hand and weak 2 with weaker, from the standpoint of better preemption.  Of course, if you open on absolute junk, ...|pg||
nt|othered1: maybe it's best to give the opponents more room to take you out :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|rmac: qjxxxx or k109xxx about only 3 pointers i can visualize|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rmac: but would have gotten to play 2s had he passed|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c8|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2S4H82DJT872CK8762,SJ98HQJ7543DKQ3CT,SAT632HAK6D5CAJ93,SKQ75HT9DA964CQ54|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|c2|nt|andersk: any comments on 2@S?|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|royhughes: I agree with it|pg||
nt|andersk: maybe|pg||
pc|c4|nt|andersk: still diffecoult|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|nt|xenya: hardly an elegant contract, this, but i agree with the 2@S bid|pg||
nt|royhughes: Partner is supposed to have more|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|d2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|andersk: safeplay for 8 now|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|andersk: just play @C|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|royhughes: Is east's last spade really the 7?|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|andersk: probably not|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|xenya: especially as he can make it now -- if he gets clubs right|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|8|nt|xenya: oh he can't go wrong here -- sorry|pg||
pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2S4H82DJT872CK8762,SJ98HQJ7543DKQ3CT,SAT632HAK6D5CAJ93,SKQ75HT9DA964CQ54|sv|n|nt|rmac: i think multi with better hand is superior for the reason you just stated|pg||
nt|othered1: Thhey can say it's a good save over 3@C|pg||
mb|2D!|an|weak 6 cards major|nt|othered1: Good @H slam here.  But it needs the @DJ, a tough card to evaluate|pg||
mb|d|mb|r!|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rmac: that presumes they will bid 3c over 1nt/2h/2s/p/p|pg||
nt|othered1: In the other room, east managed to stop in 4@H, perhaps with a serious 3N along the way.|pg||
nt|othered1: If east can find the singleton @D in west's hand, it may turn him off|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rmac: true|pg||
nt|othered1: We're duplicating the open room's auction|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|othered1: Personally, if east has made a serious slam try, west's hand with controls in all side suits, is too good to sign off, despite the high card minimum|pg||
nt|rmac: east may find a 5d call over 4h|pg||
nt|othered1: And here west didn't.|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|rmac: good choice by west|pg||
pc|h5|nt|othered1: Now the question is to avoid getting too high|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|rmac: still needs di jack tho|pg||
nt|othered1: probalby now 5N then sign off|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|othered1: well judged.|pg||
nt|rmac: finally, some imps|pg||
nt|othered1: I"m told 3@H showed minimum, so east's auction is logical (as was west's continuation, once east showed slam interest)|pg||
nt|rmac: agree|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rmac: west very wise to hold di jack|pg||
nt|othered1: But I wonder if they would have gotten there without the @DJ?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c9|nt|rmac: looks like they would|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rmac: n/w will be very bummed out i think|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c8|mc|9|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SK9HQJ6DQ8753CT52,S42HKT54DKT6CK987,SQJ53HA9873DA9C64,SAT876H2DJ42CAQJ3|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|royhughes: South, playing 4-card heart suits, chose a double rather than 2@h|pg||
mb|1N|nt|xenya:  much needed 10 imps to EW|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: well, I would bid 2@H anyway|pg||
nt|royhughes: me too|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|royhughes: The defense can build a diamond for the setting trick, I think|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|andersk: EW have the rest now|pg||
nt|xenya: well defended by EW|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hT|nt|andersk: and NS punished for their 4 card M openings|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|royhughes: Hey, now|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|cQ|pc|d7|pg||
nt|andersk: last hand from this match now|pg||
pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SK9HQJ6DQ8753CT52,S42HKT54DKT6CK987,SQJ53HA9873DA9C64,SAT876H2DJ42CAQJ3|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 110 the limit|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|d|nt|othered1: 1N?  A pro-am bid to me.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: But north has no sense of humor and they might find their 4-3 in @C|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|nt|rmac: i think they will|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|nt|othered1: All west needs to do is to lead partner's suit for an easy -1|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rmac: 1nt wins an imp|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|othered1: East takes what's under his thumb and NS pick up 1 IMP|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|h6|nt|rmac: but could have been a disaster with a different layout     no worth the risk|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
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qx|o14|st||md|4SKT65H83DJ732CA54,SQ98H97652DT8CQT2,SJ43HAQ4D654CJ963,SA72HKJTDAKQ9CK87|sv|o|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|andersk: I guess Bergen might pick up 5 or 6 IMP on previous hand|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|xenya: but i doubt 2@H was likely to be made on the previous board|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|andersk: We are sceduled to be back in about 15-20 minutes|pg||
nt|andersk: With geir helgemo in action!|pg||
nt|royhughes: Does 3@h show a fit here, anyone know?|pg||
mb|p|nt|stoffers: no, 4 would :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|andersk: great tx to norwegian Bridge federation, Stavanger BK with paul Bang, among others!|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: Also thx to our great commentators|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
nt|andersk: Roy Hughs, Vladimir Ivano and Roland Wald|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|royhughes: An unlucky lead, but I think 4@h was fated to make regardless|pg||
nt|andersk: sry abt spelling Roy:)|pg||
nt|royhughes: close enough|pg||
nt|andersk: Welcome back in about 15 min +|pg||
nt|Walddk3: 40 minutes|pg||
nt|Walddk3: 19.45 local time|pg||
nt|andersk: Oh  thats right|pg||
nt|andersk: sorry|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Heimdal 2 with Geir Helgemo will be on|pg||
nt|royhughes: Declarer has a problem here.|pg||
nt|royhughes: As the clubs lie, it is ok to play low to the queen, but that is hardly obvious|pg||
nt|andersk: or @S to Q|pg||
nt|royhughes: So maybe a spade is best|pg||
nt|andersk: I beleve @C is best, since you have the 10 for a possible stopper if AJx in North|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
nt|andersk: no problems any more|pg||
nt|royhughes: Well read by declarer|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|mc|10|nt|royhughes: Thank you to everyone -- it was fun|pg||
nt|andersk: tx all   cya in 35 min|pg||
nt|royhughes: bye|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone -- bye for now|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SKT65H83DJ732CA54,SQ98H97652DT8CQT2,SJ43HAQ4D654CJ963,SA72HKJTDAKQ9CK87|sv|o|nt|othered1: This is still a close and reasonably well-played match, with only the slam producing a nontrivial swing so far.|pg||
mb|2D!|an|strong nt or weak H or S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|othered1: If yoiu open 2 on 8.5 to 12, this looks to qualify|pg||
nt|othered1: Or is south's hand too distributed?|pg||
nt|rmac: and, the slam was 11 away wo the unknown di jack      luck of the draw|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rmac: looks like a 1h to me|pg||
nt|othered1: Probably.  there were still single-dummy endplay chances|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|rmac: i would bid 3nt over 1s|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|othered1: I don't see a reason not to get my long suit into the auction.  And from the 3@D bid made, my guess is that there are artificial meanings for some apparantly natural alternatives|pg||
nt|rmac: probably right|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h2|nt|othered1: Declarer may be able to play this into an overtrick|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|rmac: west needs to unblock club honor|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|othered1: In the other room, north bid 2@D, then committed a 2@S cue-bid over partner's rebid and the auction seems to have spun out of hand thereafter|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SQJ72HKDQ94CA7432,SAH53DJT8763CKJ65,ST8543H9872DA2CQ9,SK96HAQJT64DK5CT8|sv|n|nt|royhughes: Do we know anything about the methods of the pairs here?|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Yes, natural|pg||
mb|1C|nt|royhughes: That's nice!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|royhughes: EW can make 4@h with a good guess or two|pg||
mb|3C!|nt|andersk: I dont think so|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|Walddk3: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Resultater.html  for running scores in all four matches|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: A kibitzer corrected me -- 3 good guesses|pg||
mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|andersk: maybe he doesnt need to guess|pg||
pc|sA|nt|royhughes: It's complicated -- I'm just speculating|pg||
nt|andersk: @D in trick 2 and @H switch|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
nt|royhughes: A diamond now makes sense, while you are in dummy|pg||
nt|royhughes: But I don't see why you would guess correctly|pg||
nt|andersk: then it wont be a guess, just a normal play to ruff a @S and get 10|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|royhughes: Declarer will want to ruff a spade, so won't play trumps|pg||
nt|andersk: @D K is my bet|pg||
nt|royhughes: It seems North was ready for the diamond play|pg||
nt|xenya: well assuming N should have an ace, it is more likely to be the @DA...|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|royhughes: Anders wins|pg||
nt|xenya: well done -- now it's plain sailing|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|h3|nt|andersk: maybe he will top play @H too|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|xenya: of course|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|xenya: no -- but he is still home|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|nt|royhughes: 2 out of 3 was enough|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|royhughes: Will be enough, I should say|pg||
nt|andersk: actually, when the 1st held, all 3 should have been made:)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|royhughes: +420 good enough|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, N just MIGHT have had @HK...|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c4|nt|xenya: if S had @CAQ|pg||
nt|royhughes: But North is unlikely to have just 2 hearts|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
nt|xenya: that's true|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|h4|mc|10|nt|andersk: south is likely to hav max 2@H IMO|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1SQJ72HKDQ94CA7432,SAH53DJT8763CKJ65,ST8543H9872DA2CQ9,SK96HAQJT64DK5CT8|sv|n|nt|rmac: must bid 3nt at some point|pg||
nt|othered1: Instead of jumping north in other room bid a simple 2@D then cue-bid twice.  Too many bids, indeed.|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|an|4 cards|mb|3D|nt|rmac: 2d then 2nt     spade bids only confuse|pg||
nt|othered1: and it does look like those 1 imp swings will have an effect on the match winner here|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|rmac: it's surprising how many events a decided by an imp or 2|pg||
nt|othered1: 5@S in the other room was a lucky fetch|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: If you lose the first 2@D and get @C back, you|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: willhate your chances at 5|pg||
nt|rmac: at the top level, evey card played is important|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|othered1: with @D ace gone, declarer won't have any tough decisions to make.  Low @C initially might have changed his perspective.|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|nt|rmac: or a low di|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|rmac: and club at trick 3|pg||
nt|othered1: At worst, Lund's lead has tied the match|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2S87HAT62D9CT87542,S962H9854DAQ852CJ,SKJTH73DKJT7CK963,SAQ543HKQJD643CAQ|sv|e|nt|xenya: so @HA was indicated|pg||
nt|xenya: well done by EW anyway|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|andersk: 3@C for me|pg||
mb|5C|nt|xenya: :)|pg||
nt|andersk: this will be exspensive|pg||
nt|royhughes: Do NS play 5-card majors?|pg||
nt|xenya: seems so -- from what i've seen|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|andersk: 800 over partscoore|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|andersk: KK in East will love this dummy|pg||
pc|h2|nt|royhughes: Stornes was unlucky, regardless of how you feel about the 5@c bid|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
nt|xenya: 5@C really looks too much -- i would opt for 4|pg||
nt|andersk: why bid 5@C when you have possible cards to set any game?|pg||
nt|royhughes: But playing 5-card majors, 1@c is usually a weak notrump, so maybe bidding 5 was too much|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s4|nt|xenya: 4@C would create just the right amount of pressure i think|pg||
nt|royhughes: One problem with bidding only 4 is that if the opponents bid 4@s, you will feel you have extra offense|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|andersk: and if pard have 3 card with 4-4 i M, then 3 would be enuff, so 3@C for me....still|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|royhughes: Another approach is just to bid 1@h, and bid clubs later|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg||
mc|7|nt|andersk: You can even blow a Game NS with 5@C  give pard a 18-19 NT then you might have 3 NT as only game|pg||
nt|royhughes: That is possible, to be sure|pg||
nt|andersk: so I think we all agree that 5 is way too much:)|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2S87HAT62D9CT87542,S962H9854DAQ852CJ,SKJTH73DKJT7CK963,SAQ543HKQJD643CAQ|sv|e|nt|rmac: has been very well played, as expected|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|d!|an|responsive|nt|ritong: expensive opening lead coming|pg||
mb|p|nt|othered1: likely pointcount 3N auction as in the other room.  On actual lie of cards 5@D is only sure game|pg||
mb|3N|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|othered1: looks like 5-card major stayman and denial of 4 or 5-card major by opener|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|othered1: HIgh lead pushes, anything else loses game swing|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: oy|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|rmac: last hand    tx to james, our outstanding operator and tx to kibs for attending. tx also to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possibe. and tx ed, always a preasure ...|pg||
nt|rmac: working with you|pg||
nt|othered1: Thanks Ralph.  and thanks, James, for the terrific presentation and specs for keeping me hep to what's going on.  |pg||
nt|ritong: should get @ds right, since if AK fails, he can recover with friendky @ss and @c K on|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rmac: hi henry|pg||
nt|ritong: hi|pg||
nt|rmac: henri   sorry|pg||
nt|ritong: np|pg||
nt|othered1: Specs note that beating 3N 2 tricks was likely going to give BK2 a couple of imps anyway.  Here it will be 11.|pg||
nt|othered1: And also that declarer hasn't made this contract yet.|pg||
nt|ritong: well, if he follows riton s way, he will make lol|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|ritong: uh oh|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|rmac: wow|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|c9|nt|ritong: a bit strange|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|othered1: still 2 imps north-south|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|ritong: single shot instead of a double one|pg||
nt|othered1: But the line Henri suggested is better|pg||
pc|h6|nt|rmac: sure is   we had wrong decl|pg||
nt|ritong: two horses batter than one, ya right:)|pg||
nt|othered1: Thanks again everyone and bye for now|pg||
pc|h9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg||
mc|9|pg||