vg|Norwegian Team Championship,5_ round - 1_ half,I,1,16,Heimdal BK 2,0,Tromsø BK,0| rs|3DE+1,5DE-1,6HW+1,6HW+1,4HW-1,3NW-1,2SS-1,2SS-2,2HW+1,2SN-1,4SN+2,4SN+2,6HS+1,6NS+1,1NW-2,1NW-1,4SE=,5CSx-5,3HS=,3HN=,2SS+1,1NW-1,5CN=,3NS+4,3CW-1,2SS-1,2SS+2,4SS-1,2NE+1,3NE=,4NW-1,3NE=| pn|Lund,Hegrand,Helgemo,Harr,Marstrande,Aa,Anderssen,Molberg|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SJ862HAT943D86CJ4,ST93HQJ752DQ43C32,S754HK8D2CAKQT976,SAKQH6DAKJT975C85|sv|o|nt|swanson: This proved to be a 3 or 6 hand, depending on the diamond split.|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: Most of his friends and team-mates call him "uncle"|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: Harr is "walking the dog"|pg|| mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|swanson: Surely Harr was worth 3@D over 2@C, but no danger of getting overboard to game anyway.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|nt|flash: so first blood to Tromso|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SJ862HAT943D86CJ4,ST93HQJ752DQ43C32,S754HK8D2CAKQT976,SAKQH6DAKJT975C85|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|vugraph117: test|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|nt|andersk: Hi all|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST82HQ2DT86CJT863,SJ95HA97653D5CAK7,S7HT8DKQJ9732CQ95,SAKQ643HKJ4DA4C42|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: ø|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Just for you, Jim|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Tromsø|pg|| nt|flash: i'll need to borrow that character :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Finally an opportunity for Hegrand to jump|pg|| nt|flash: got it; thnx :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|flash: high enough % for the grand?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|henryb: a bad but making grand|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: no, you need 56% and this is 52%|pg|| nt|swanson: There is not a lot of science in the auction - but enough to determine that the @HQ is missing.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|flash: and no real chance to show the compensating(?) length|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST82HQ2DT86CJT863,SJ95HA97653D5CAK7,S7HT8DKQJ9732CQ95,SAKQ643HKJ4DA4C42|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|andersk: Welcome to Thomas Nylund and Terjei Eck Hansen from Norway|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|tmice: Thx Anders|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|teckh: best contract|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|tmice: And there it died...|pg|| nt|tmice: yes good one|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, everybody, from overcast central Pennslyvania, USA|pg|| nt|andersk: Hi Ed, and welcome!|pg|| nt|tmice: Hi|pg|| nt|andersk: tx all for helping out! This is my session out, gl all!|pg|| nt|othered1: Bye!|pg|| nt|vugraph117: CR have been sitting wrong way the first 2 boards...|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S8763HQ86DT3CKT42,ST9HAK92DAKQCA763,SAK2HT5D987542CQ8,SQJ54HJ743DJ6CJ95|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: This is different than watching Bauke Muller in action (our broadcast from Poland earlier). That was excruciatingly slow|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: He would need 2 extra hearts to compensate for the Q|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|an|puppet|mb|p|mb|3D|an|One or both 4c M|mb|p|mb|4D|an|pick M|nt|Walddk2: 3@D = at least one 4-card major|pg|| nt|swanson: Woule Hegrand have shown the @HQ if he held a seven card suit? Close in my view.|pg|| nt|flash: 3@D one or more 4-card major(s)|pg|| nt|swanson: Would|pg|| mb|p|nt|flash: 4@D both|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: I think he should John|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Indeed, since 4NT shows at least 3-card support|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|henryb: I suppose partner might have KX of @h and independent @s|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|nt|flash: as predicted, we're about to lap the Closed Room|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S8763HQ86DT3CKT42,ST9HAK92DAKQCA763,SAK2HT5D987542CQ8,SQJ54HJ743DJ6CJ95|sv|e|nt|tmice: aha... VP punishment....?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|sybarra: hello all |pg|| nt|othered1: this should get to an easy 4@S or a lucky 3N|pg|| nt|vugraph117: think so|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|rmac: hi kibs hi shirley|pg|| nt|sybarra: and Ed is here also |pg|| nt|othered1: looks like south must bid game here, as there's a play opposite @Sxxxxx and out|pg|| nt|rmac: hi ed|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|othered1: Hi, Ralph! rehi, Shirley!|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|sybarra: Thomas you here?|pg|| nt|rmac: hi inger|pg|| nt|tmice: yes i am:) hi Shirley|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|sybarra: great! |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|sybarra: ok leaviing you 3 gentleman to carry on |pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|rmac: i assume 4h would not be a retransfer|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SKQ95H982DQ75C987,ST7HKJTDJ64CQT543,SAJ86HQ53DKT93CK2,S432HA764DA82CAJ6|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: We have|pg|| nt|flash: so no comparisons as we go; i'll try to keep an eye on scores from the other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|swanson: Didn't discarding on the diamond rather than ruffing (to gain an entry to the spades) give up on making the contract?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Yes John|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c6|nt|flash: no 8th trick?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|henryb: When @h Q did not fall, was always going to lose two more tricks|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|flash: particularly now...|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|flash: good shift|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Resultater.html for running scores in all four matches|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|flash: web site now updated through round 4 http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=10731050|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This event started last autumn with 301 teams from 171 clubs! The lowest number of entries for years. Amazing number nevertheless|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sQ|pc|cQ|nt|flash: Heimdal2 94; Heimdal1 82; Tromsø 76|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|Walddk2: Norway is a huge country with a small population. Only 4.5 million inhabitants|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SKQ95H982DQ75C987,ST7HKJTDJ64CQT543,SAJ86HQ53DKT93CK2,S432HA764DA82CAJ6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|othered1: EW are probably best out of this auction, unless they can stop pretty low|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2S!|an|4!s|mb|p|nt|rmac: 4s wont quite fetch |pg|| nt|othered1: The @H opening should put a damper on NS's ambitions here.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: luckily|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|othered1: Do you think east's raise was automatic, given the @H misfit?|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rmac: no, i would pass first rule of misfits is to pass asap|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|othered1: Only 2 losers off the top and the @D suit running may make this easy.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|rmac: would rather be in 2 than 4|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|tmice: have to go to... have fun...:)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|rmac: tx tom|pg|| nt|othered1: On a good day, however, 5@C can score an overtrick.|pg|| pc|h5|nt|rmac: also true but i dont have many good days|pg|| nt|rmac: and does 2c promise 4? not with me|pg|| nt|othered1: we can see an easy 5, just play a low trump. But declarer doesn't know that there's a miracle @D lie.|pg|| nt|rmac: i would bid 2 dia as east, not 3c|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|rmac: unless 2c guarantees at least 4|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|othered1: If 1N was forcing in a 2/1-type style, then 2@C may be short and I think a 2@D rebid by east is perferable|pg|| nt|othered1: But here declarer is just playing for his contract and will make it easily on this line|pg|| nt|rmac: 5c would have been more exciting|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|othered1: or maybe not. I think second trump there would have insured the contract|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|rmac: yes seems wrong play here|pg|| nt|othered1: Actually, this looks like a winning defense at this point|pg|| nt|vugraph117: no Vp penalty. they just erase boards 1 and 2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|othered1: that's a nice ruling. In ACBL you get hung for that, routinely.|pg|| pc|sA|nt|rmac: i mjissed it. what happened?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA864HK976D76CJ96,SKJHTDAQT42CAT873,S9753HA5DKJ95CK52,SQT2HQJ8432D83CQ4|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Stavanger is a city and municipality in the county of Rogaland. It is the 4th largest city, with a population of 120,000|pg|| nt|flash: Board 3 in as a push|pg|| nt|swanson: We have extras we could send.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The city is located on a peninsula on the southwest coast of Norway. Stavanger has been called the Petroleum Capital of Norway|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|weak two in M or 22-24 nt|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| nt|flash: looks as though E-W have added to their arsenal since Roland last surveyed it|pg|| nt|henryb: looks like 1 down|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|henryb: not after @c lead|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|flash: very difficult to lead anything but a minor suit? chalk this one up to the xfer aspect of Multi??|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|swanson: One of the best features of multi is getting the lead up to the stronger hand.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|johnp: men det var kansje galt--|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA864HK976D76CJ96,SKJHTDAQT42CAT873,S9753HA5DKJ95CK52,SQT2HQJ8432D83CQ4|sv|n|nt|othered1: @H return killed entries to dummy|pg|| mb|1D|nt|rmac: on the protest|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|othered1: 2@H presumably a 2-suiter|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Not too much to this one. Makes (on @S lead) with @H 2-2 and has some extra chances, such as the @C lead from the K|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|rmac: since the 2 suiter dont include spades, spade q seems more thoughtfull lead|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|othered1: really, whichever lets you cash your side suit tricks is best. |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| nt|rmac: single imps are more important than most think|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SK743HQJ76DKJCKT6,SQHKT93D98542CA42,SAJ985HA85DAT73CQ,ST62H42DQ6CJ98753|sv|e|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Straightforward 4@S now; nothing much to write home about|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|henryb: can make 6 easily on lie of cards|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|swanson: 12 tricks are available if N-S overbid.|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: 4 hearts, 5 spades in the NS system|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: The same Helgemo plays with Helness|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|swanson: South will not offer any encouragement.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: So Lund borrowed a @h from somewhere?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No, why?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@H promises 4, 1@S 5|pg|| nt|henryb: oh, sorry, misunderstood|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The advantage of that method is that 1@D is always 4, and 1@C is also 4 unless specifically 4333, then 1@C|pg|| nt|swanson: Sneaky @C10 by Helgemo, hoping for a 'cover' by the @CJ.|pg|| pc|c4|nt|swanson: That man is not to be trusted.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|henryb: We have known that for years|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SK743HQJ76DKJCKT6,SQHKT93D98542CA42,SAJ985HA85DAT73CQ,ST62H42DQ6CJ98753|sv|e|nt|othered1: Do you really lead to save 1 imp on auctions like this?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: no, but spade seems best to try to beat also|pg|| nt|othered1: Standard 1N despite good 5-card major (not my preference, but I'm not hep)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|rmac: but as a practical matter, not all contracts are beatable so save where you can|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: South-African Texas (transfer to @S) among other benefits, it avoids memory lapses after the 4@H transfer in standard Texas |pg|| nt|rmac: good point, ed|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|othered1: that's a friendly lead, not that it matters so much on the lie of the red suits|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|nt|rmac: just make declarer more comfortable|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|nt|othered1: A Grosvenor by south. (making a play that can lose a trick but for which declarer can't play).|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|othered1: And, since J 10 and 9 were out, this wasn't a simple restricted choice situation|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|mc|12|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAK95HA7DQ942CQ73,SQ8762H32DAJT83C5,SHKQJ96D76CAKJ642,SJT43HT854DK5CT98|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|henryb: South has the wrong AK|pg|| nt|flash: still working on Board 4 in the Closed Room; it would seem that there will be a lot to watch on 'instant replay' once we finish here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3NT, 4@H or 5@C here, but I'd like to see them lead a diamond against slam|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|swanson: A blast into slam will probably work here. Delicate bidding is apt to pinpoint the lead.|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Yes, like 4@C 4@H now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Denying a diamond control|pg|| nt|flash: 2@S down 2 on Board 4; 3 IMPs to Heimdal2|pg|| mb|4D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Was 4@D a psyche I wonder. If it was, Hegrand exposed it|pg|| nt|henryb: next two results are good for Tromso|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|henryb: If Helgemo bids 6N he may get away with it|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: 4@D could have been keycard asking in diamonds,|pg|| nt|flash: the 'exposure' might not deter Helgemo? wouldn't the auction be the same with @DA in South and K in West?|pg|| pc|s2|nt|swanson: Helgemo believes his partner.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hQ|nt|Walddk2: So Hegrand doubled to remind himself not to lead a diamond|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| mc|13|nt|flash: and gets the contract played from the right side, to boot|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 13 tricks now|pg|| nt|andersk: Hegrand didnt follow Helgemo's law, cash a Ace against slam|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAK95HA7DQ942CQ73,SQ8762H32DAJT83C5,SHKQJ96D76CAKJ642,SJT43HT854DK5CT98|sv|b|nt|othered1: Routine first seat weak 2@S, if they play it.|pg|| nt|othered1: 2@S will likely buy the contract and probably will go plus|pg|| nt|othered1: Are the players taking a break?|pg|| nt|rmac: i like rule of 2,3,4 for preempts so south hand perfect|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm not a rule user exactly, but a minimum vul weak 2 has a good suit and some shape. South qualifies|pg|| nt|othered1: Same standard I've used for about 50 years.|pg|| nt|rmac: we would probably come to same place on most hands|pg|| nt|rmac: showing your age|pg|| nt|othered1: I wouldn't open with AQJ98x, xx, xx, xxx |pg|| nt|rmac: nor i|pg|| nt|vugraph117: sry.. missed the bidding and play|pg|| nt|othered1: I'm told their multi is 2-8 HCP, while a 2-bid is 8.5 to 12. That would have made this a 2@D opener|pg|| nt|othered1: 3-8 hcp|pg|| nt|rmac: 2-8 vul?|pg|| nt|rmac: too rich for me|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|othered1: 3 to 8, that's what I'm told, controlled by the 2 types of weak 2's. Keeps partner from going overboard. but I wonder if the opponents are allowed to listen in and act?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: dont like 3s at all|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|an|to play|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|d|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|mc|13|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAT62HQJDA974C643,SKJ7HK42D32CAQJ87,S954HAT753DJT8CK2,SQ83H986DKQ65CT95|sv|o|nt|vugraph116: Harr "accusing" Lund of cheating :) |pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: To be fair, Hegrand thought he would set up declarer's @DK if he led the ace. Who can blame him?|pg|| nt|swanson: The @DA seems a marked lead, but it is so much easier looking at all the cards.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: NT range starts (or includes) 14? or an upgrade?|pg|| nt|andersk: I dont beleve any would blame him after this bidding|pg|| nt|henryb: perhaps it was denial cue bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|andersk: I will applaude Lund's Quebid!|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Helgemo doesn't play too much fancy stuff. It's a relatively "simple" system he has with Helness|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|flash: if it backfires, you're up de Nile widdout a paddle, Henry?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: And that has served them well as we all know|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d9|mc|5|nt|flash: 2@S down 1 on Board 5, so 1 IMP to Tromsø|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAT62HQJDA974C643,SKJ7HK42D32CAQJ87,S954HAT753DJT8CK2,SQ83H986DKQ65CT95|sv|o|nt|othered1: Nor I. and 170 is a very nice score|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|rmac: is 2c natural at this point? i say yes|pg|| nt|othered1: From what I see on BBO, it seems like a large percentage of Europeans overcall on north's junk. A little foreign to American eyes.|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|nt|rmac: not to my taste an overcall should show some tricks or a suit i know i want lead|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|rmac: this bid has nothing to recommend it imo|pg|| nt|othered1: looks like only 500, not a major loss against a making 3N|pg|| nt|rmac: true rather lucky in my view|pg|| nt|rmac: but what about the effect it has on future auctions?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| nt|othered1: Little effect in an expert partnership that agrees to t his style. Different story if north is a pro with a customer in south|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|rmac: yes|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S5HAKQ2D653CKQJT9,SAQ6HT97543DQT94C,ST987HJ86DK72C653,SKJ432HDAJ8CA8742|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all 6 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Open one browser window per table|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|henryb: a reasonable 4@s: E has to elope with small trumps|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: 2NT limit + (self-evidently with either 3- or 4-card support)|pg|| pc|hK|nt|henryb: after cashing some number of @d|pg|| nt|swanson: With the fortunate diamond position declarer can take 3 diamonds, 1 club and 7 spades. (ruffing 3 hearts in his hand)|pg|| nt|henryb: 8 spades|pg|| nt|andersk: and 3 @C ruffs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|henryb: no|pg|| nt|henryb: 7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|sA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|andersk: Gunnar harr took the 10 safe|pg|| nt|flash: both potential overtricks gone, but that's certainly a safe line for 10 tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S5HAKQ2D653CKQJT9,SAQ6HT97543DQT94C,ST987HJ86DK72C653,SKJ432HDAJ8CA8742|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|othered1: NS can make 1@S or 2, while EW does better in @H|pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|nt|rmac: aa missed out on the bermuda bowl win but very fine player|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Only 2@H by east. Hasn't The Law been passed in Norway?|pg|| nt|rmac: was on norway national team for years|pg|| nt|othered1: (FWIW, I agree with 2@H)|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 3h to me with or wo the law|pg|| nt|rmac: gl inger|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: with @SA onside, this should go quickly|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|rmac: make us commentators look good|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h5|nt|othered1: That looks like a really risky play (essentially playing south for both @CQ and @SA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|rmac: yes it does with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S53HK6DAJ64CKQJ73,SAKQ64HAQ8DQ97C95,SJT9HJT9752D53CA8,S872H43DKT82CT642|sv|b|nt|flash: 5 boards and 11 comparisons to go... |pg|| nt|Walddk2: The 7% hand. What do I mean by that?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: The chance of both sides having 20 hcp is 7%|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|andersk: overcall any?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|andersk: I wouldnt pass|pg|| nt|flash: i'd been told that the NT range for Norwegian males extends down to 14; i'm beginning to believe it|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|henryb: for Scandinavian females it starts at 16?:)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|andersk: Geir and Tor have opened 2 times against me with 13 pointers, both times it was a great board for them!|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| nt|swanson: Overcalling with the minors against a strong notrump tells a lot, risks a lot, and has little to gain.|pg|| nt|flash: board 6 in as a push; Heimdal 2 seems to have survived the boards where Tromsø had a possible advantage|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h9|nt|flash: declarer has been given a chance here|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|henryb: declarer is cold now|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|d8|mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S53HK6DAJ64CKQJ73,SAKQ64HAQ8DQ97C95,SJT9HJT9752D53CA8,S872H43DKT82CT642|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rmac: extremely low scoring match|pg|| mb|1N|mb|d|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|othered1: 4 of either major looks normal here and will make|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|othered1: I like the 4@C bid, pretty classical (raise to game plu7s a singleton)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|rmac: me2|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|othered1: No @S ruff, no problem|pg|| nt|rmac: no second choice|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|cT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKQ75HT3DJT32C932,S93H9865DA94CKJT5,SJT4HKQJ72D6CAQ64,SA862HA4DKQ875C87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: we'd expect to see a big jump on the scoreboard; the Closed Room is on the slam-off-two-cashing-@Ds hand|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: They have been playing 10 boards in less than an hour. That is very fast|pg|| mb|2C|nt|andersk: actually 12 boards|pg|| nt|flash: i think we omitted a pass there?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oh right|pg|| nt|henryb: no|pg|| mb|d|an|3c sp|mb|p|nt|flash: perhaps not; i omitted the X from my vision :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|henryb: declarer should now know (from auction) that E is 4-2-5-2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|andersk: that 6@H, tromsø is now in 6 NT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|flash: South finds a non-standard, but effective way to pull trumps|pg|| nt|Walddk2: West with AJ10xx in diamonds is on lead against 6NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Terje Aa|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|sT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|andersk: @H lead|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Just another boring push|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|andersk: :)|pg|| nt|flash: and it's on the scorecard...|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKQ75HT3DJT32C932,S93H9865DA94CKJT5,SJT4HKQJ72D6CAQ64,SA862HA4DKQ875C87|sv|o|nt|othered1: Tjhere|pg|| nt|othered1: There's one of those 3 point weak 2's (though not vul here)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: Made at other table|pg|| nt|rmac: yes i noticed that looks ok if thats your range|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|othered1: I wonder if it wouldn't be better to use multi with the stronger hand and weak 2 with weaker, from the standpoint of better preemption. Of course, if you open on absolute junk, ...|pg|| nt|othered1: maybe it's best to give the opponents more room to take you out :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|rmac: qjxxxx or k109xxx about only 3 pointers i can visualize|pg|| pc|hT|nt|rmac: but would have gotten to play 2s had he passed|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|mc|6|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S62HAK4DAKJ82CKQ3,SKJ85HT732DT94CJ6,S743HQ65D7CAT8742,SAQT9HJ98DQ653C95|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: 3 boards left in this room; they'll be on their 3rd round before the Closed Room finishes...|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|andersk: 3 nT and 5@C makes here|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|flash: East gets in his lead-director|pg|| nt|andersk: I like Gunnar harr's 1 @S here|pg|| mb|3S|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Yes, me too in 3rd seat, non-vulnerable|pg|| nt|henryb: this is almost as fast as Chagas|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: will Børre Lund bid game in @C now?|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|flash: well done|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|andersk: notise the 1 @S instead of 1 @D, huge differse in quality of the suit!|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| mc|11|nt|flash: next-to-last board coming up; re-start in 13 hours|pg|| nt|swanson: I wonder why Hegrand didn't bid 3@S - not that it would have made any difference in the final contract.|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S62HAK4DAKJ82CKQ3,SKJ85HT732DT94CJ6,S743HQ65D7CAT8742,SAQT9HJ98DQ653C95|sv|n|nt|rmac: i think multi with better hand is superior for the reason you just stated|pg|| nt|othered1: Thhey can say it's a good save over 3@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: Good @H slam here. But it needs the @DJ, a tough card to evaluate|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|rmac: that presumes they will bid 3c over 1nt/2h/2s/p/p|pg|| nt|othered1: In the other room, east managed to stop in 4@H, perhaps with a serious 3N along the way.|pg|| nt|othered1: If east can find the singleton @D in west's hand, it may turn him off|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rmac: true|pg|| nt|othered1: We're duplicating the open room's auction|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|othered1: Personally, if east has made a serious slam try, west's hand with controls in all side suits, is too good to sign off, despite the high card minimum|pg|| nt|rmac: east may find a 5d call over 4h|pg|| nt|othered1: And here west didn't.|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|rmac: good choice by west|pg|| pc|cK|nt|othered1: Now the question is to avoid getting too high|pg|| pc|c6|nt|rmac: still needs di jack tho|pg|| nt|othered1: probalby now 5N then sign off|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|othered1: well judged.|pg|| nt|rmac: finally, some imps|pg|| nt|othered1: I"m told 3@H showed minimum, so east's auction is logical (as was west's continuation, once east showed slam interest)|pg|| nt|rmac: agree|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|rmac: west very wise to hold di jack|pg|| nt|othered1: But I wonder if they would have gotten there without the @DJ?|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d9|pc|cA|nt|rmac: looks like they would|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|hJ|nt|rmac: n/w will be very bummed out i think|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|rmac: but luck follows the bold|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKJT85H96DK97CK53,SQ764HA7DAT6CQT64,SA93HJT842DQJCJ72,S2HKQ53D85432CA98|sv|b|nt|flash: lots of Vugraph options this weekend; pls check your bookmarked BBO Vugraph Schedule web page for events and local times|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: did not want to go for 800?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|swanson: Details.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: They won't beat Chagas' BBO vugraph record, though. 1 hour and 11 minutes to complete 16 boards|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: I said almost, Roland|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|flash: while this is playing out, let me get a head start on... thnx to our operator, Geir, for a great job|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|flash: thnx to Stavanger BK (particularly Carl Mathiesen and Paul Bang) and the Norwegian Bridge Federation for organizing this broadcast and inviting us to participate|pg|| nt|flash: thnx to our commentators for guiding us through the session|pg|| nt|flash: again, plenty of boards to watch on 'instant replay' in the Closed Room|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: I dare say, they are on board 8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and did not play 15 and 16 first|pg|| pc|dK|pc|cT|nt|flash: 1NT down only 1 on Board 8, so 2 IMPs to Heimdal 2|pg|| nt|andersk: :) Andersen / marstrander does normally playtempo, but as we all know Aa takes he's time:)|pg|| nt|flash: i've had a suggestion that the 'instant replay' will be in super slo motion...|pg|| nt|henryb: and his partner's and his opponent's and the vg operator's and the kibitzers and the commenters and, and ...|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|nt|swanson: Nobody wants to overruff!|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|flash: his sisters and his cousins (which he reckons by the dozens) and his aunts?|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|swanson: Hoarding their trumps for something really tasty?|pg|| nt|henryb: exactly|pg|| nt|andersk: maybe they will, when it is too late:)|pg|| nt|henryb: they are getting close to letting this through|pg|| nt|andersk: yes|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|andersk: I beleve @C now|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|henryb: better tak dummy now|pg|| nt|flash: trump also works|pg|| nt|henryb: actually, no way to make|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|cA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d5|mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKJT85H96DK97CK53,SQ764HA7DAT6CQT64,SA93HJT842DQJCJ72,S2HKQ53D85432CA98|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|rmac: looks like 110 the limit|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: 1N? A pro-am bid to me.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|nt|othered1: But north has no sense of humor and they might find their 4-3 in @C|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|rmac: i think they will|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|nt|othered1: All west needs to do is to lead partner's suit for an easy -1|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|rmac: 1nt wins an imp|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c8|nt|othered1: East takes what's under his thumb and NS pick up 1 IMP|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|nt|rmac: but could have been a disaster with a different layout no worth the risk|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|d4|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAQ75H98DKCAT6532,SJ8HAJT54DAT982CQ,SKT932HKQ7DJ3C874,S64H632DQ7654CKJ9|sv|o|nt|flash: last board now; thnx again, all; we hope to see you soon on another BBO Vugraph presentation|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4+ sp|mb|p|nt|andersk: probably 9 tricks in @S |pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|andersk: and 8 in @D|pg|| nt|swanson: I expect them to contract for 10.|pg|| nt|andersk: 19 trumphs, and 17 tricks|pg|| nt|swanson: In spades.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|swanson: Good stop (with clubs 3-1)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|andersk: this will be 170 now|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|andersk: cya all|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|nt|flash: pls join us in the Closed Room (if you like to watch grass grow...)|pg|| nt|flash: thnx again|pg|| nt|swanson: Bye for now.|pg|| nt|vugraph116: will leave table open for comparison with closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and good night|pg|| nt|vugraph116: so another 1 1/2 hrs I guess...|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAQ75H98DKCAT6532,SJ8HAJT54DAT982CQ,SKT932HKQ7DJ3C874,S64H632DQ7654CKJ9|sv|o|nt|othered1: This is still a close and reasonably well-played match, with only the slam producing a nontrivial swing so far.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2N!|nt|othered1: If yoiu open 2 on 8.5 to 12, this looks to qualify|pg|| nt|othered1: Or is south's hand too distributed?|pg|| nt|rmac: and, the slam was 11 away wo the unknown di jack luck of the draw|pg|| mb|d|mb|4D|nt|rmac: looks like a 1h to me|pg|| nt|othered1: Probably. there were still single-dummy endplay chances|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmac: i would bid 3nt over 1s|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|othered1: I don't see a reason not to get my long suit into the auction. And from the 3@D bid made, my guess is that there are artificial meanings for some apparantly natural alternatives|pg|| nt|rmac: probably right|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|othered1: Declarer may be able to play this into an overtrick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rmac: west needs to unblock club honor|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h6|mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ654HAJ2DTCKT876,SAT8H6DKJ532CAJ53,SQ7HKT543D9864CQ2,SK932HQ987DAQ7C94|sv|n|nt|flash: the standings through the 3rd round are at http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=10731050|pg|| nt|andersk: I predict a fast set here! Helgemo and Hegrand are usually very fast!|pg|| nt|flash: Heimdal 2 was in the lead with 79 VPS (apparently including carry-over)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|henryb: Borre Lund has been quite successful in NA pair games recently|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|flash: Heimdal 1 was 2nd with 69 and Tromso 3rd with 62|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: Hegrand is known as Wirkola, because he always jumps to the final contract. Bjørn Wirkola was one of Norway's best ski jumpers for many years long time ago|pg|| nt|andersk: This is heimdal 2, they are current leaders|pg|| nt|flash: unless someone on-site can update us, we'll keep an eye on the web site for 4th round results|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|henryb: 9th trick|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|nt|swanson: Did Hegrand fail to bid 3NT because he couldn't jump to the final contract?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: EW only have two agreements: 1. When Hegrand jumps to some game contract, partner must always pass - 2. When Hegrand doubles at the 2-level and higher, partner must always pass|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ654HAJ2DTCKT876,SAT8H6DKJ532CAJ53,SQ7HKT543D9864CQ2,SK932HQ987DAQ7C94|sv|n|nt|rmac: must bid 3nt at some point|pg|| nt|othered1: Instead of jumping north in other room bid a simple 2@D then cue-bid twice. Too many bids, indeed.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rmac: 2d then 2nt spade bids only confuse|pg|| nt|othered1: and it does look like those 1 imp swings will have an effect on the match winner here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rmac: it's surprising how many events a decided by an imp or 2|pg|| nt|othered1: 5@S in the other room was a lucky fetch|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|othered1: If you lose the first 2@D and get @C back, you|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: willhate your chances at 5|pg|| nt|rmac: at the top level, evey card played is important|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|othered1: with @D ace gone, declarer won't have any tough decisions to make. Low @C initially might have changed his perspective.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rmac: or a low di|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S872H942DQT84CQT2,SAJ4HA7DK76532C95,S965HQJT853DJCK74,SKQT3HK6DA9CAJ863|sv|e|nt|henryb: perhaps because he had only 13|pg|| mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: 15 and 16 in this room first, and then comparisons from the closed room when we get to board 1|pg|| nt|andersk: Gunnar harr playe for Norway junior team in the 90's, I was he's first Junior partner, he's father play on my team!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3@H?|pg|| nt|henryb: this is the type of 3N I like to play at imps|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|nt|swanson: Maybe 2@H is enough.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: Too early for Hegrand to jump I think (but you never know)|pg|| nt|henryb: but 6@d may suit Wirkola better|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|swanson: 6@D is not unreasonable, but the preempt reduces the likelihood of a 3-2 diamond split a bit.|pg|| nt|henryb: yes, agree|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oh, this is the 3rd agreement. When Hegrand bids 3NT, partner must always pass|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Well, he can bid on with a 28 count|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|henryb: 17 is not enough?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Did you see how fast he passed 4NT?|pg|| nt|henryb: you are right of course|pg|| nt|flash: is dispensation granted if there are an easy 10 tricks?|pg|| nt|swanson: East has his raise - maybe 4@D was a better choice.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Because he was fuming after Harr did not pass 3NT|pg|| nt|vugraph116: it was a fast pass yes :)|pg|| nt|flash: down on a @H lead|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|nt|flash: steam continuing to pour from the West seat?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|henryb: same result as 6@d|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: Wirkola is his nickname as I said earlier. Jokingly, he is also called Trond Tregrand (instead of Hegrand). Tre grand in Norwegian is 3NT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S872H942DQT84CQT2,SAJ4HA7DK76532C95,S965HQJT853DJCK74,SKQT3HK6DA9CAJ863|sv|e|nt|rmac: has been very well played, as expected|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ritong: expensive opening lead coming|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: likely pointcount 3N auction as in the other room. On actual lie of cards 5@D is only sure game|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: looks like 5-card major stayman and denial of 4 or 5-card major by opener|pg|| mb|p|pc|h2|nt|othered1: HIgh lead pushes, anything else loses game swing|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ritong: oy|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|nt|rmac: last hand tx to james, our outstanding operator and tx to kibs for attending. tx also to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possibe. and tx ed, always a preasure ...|pg|| nt|rmac: working with you|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks Ralph. and thanks, James, for the terrific presentation and specs for keeping me hep to what's going on. |pg|| nt|ritong: should get @ds right, since if AK fails, he can recover with friendky @ss and @c K on|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d9|nt|rmac: hi henry|pg|| nt|ritong: hi|pg|| nt|rmac: henri sorry|pg|| nt|ritong: np|pg|| nt|othered1: Specs note that beating 3N 2 tricks was likely going to give BK2 a couple of imps anyway. Here it will be 11.|pg|| nt|othered1: And also that declarer hasn't made this contract yet.|pg|| nt|ritong: well, if he follows riton s way, he will make lol|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|ritong: uh oh|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg||