vg|Norwegian Team Championship,Round 6 - 2_ half,I,1,16,Stavanger BK,22,Heimdal 2,42| rs|4SN-1,3HE=,7HN-1,4HS+2,4SE=,4SW=,3NN+2,7CS-1,3SW-1,3SW-1,7HW=,6HW+1,4HW=,4HE-2,3NS-2,3NN-2,1NS-2,1NE+1,6HEx-1,6CW-3,3DW=,3DW=,4SN-1,4SN=,4HW=,4HW=,3DN=,4DN=,4SE=,4SE=,3SS-2,3NE-1| pn|Strøm,Lund,Moen,Helgemo,Aa,Herland,Molberg,Skimmeland|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAK3H5DAK43CAJT93,S4HAQ82DJT95CQ742,SQJ752H963D876C85,ST986HKJT74DQ2CK6|sv|o|nt|aldek: Niestety nie mam polskich czcionek, mam nadzieje ze jakos dam sobie rade|pg|| nt|tmice: 2half: Bergen ABK - Kristiansand BK|pg|| mb|p|nt|garden2005: x = starsza czwórka i m³odsza pi¹tka|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok lets hope ther are more dynamite in the cards now:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|garden2005: dzieñ dobry wszystkim|pg|| nt|bouncer: 4@S and a longer minor |pg|| nt|tmice: well it might be dynamite allready...:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: hoi|pg|| nt|bouncer: ER du sjef sten?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|sommer: and still -50 may be a good result for EW!|pg|| nt|bouncer: :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d!|an|3!s|nt|Walddk7: Bonjour à tous|pg|| mb|2S!|an|good lift !h|mb|p|nt|bouncer: Nice shot from Molberg|pg|| nt|sten: well, probably 1 down|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Still waiting for Marstrander to lead|pg|| nt|liujing: 3@C ÅäºÏÏÔʾ½Ð|pg|| mb|3H|nt|aldek: latwa koncowka|pg|| nt|bouncer: Marstrander and Andersen play very aggresiv bridge|pg|| mb|4H|nt|bouncer: who is Egil of them homme?|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: Resultats apres 7 tours: 1er Galinsky Courrias 635 2eme Malarme Chauvelot 622 3eme Grosset Chassagne 573 4eme Bessis Gaviard 565 5eme Vinay Seguineau 542|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: lot of work to do..if this can make|pg|| nt|hedyg: link for results http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|tmice: Both with M :)|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Resultater.html for running scores in all four matches|pg|| nt|bouncer: yup:)|pg|| nt|Walddk5: East is Egil|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok,tx|pg|| nt|vugraph117: North thought they were using negative X|pg|| mb|4S|nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|hedyg: @c lead doesnt help|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph117: test|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk5: Operator, could you pls give E-W initials? E. M. thanks|pg|| nt|tmice: Standings: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=10731050 before this match..|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|sommer: no, it needs a misdefence ..ie @H duck:) with @HA|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Tøndel is thinking about the lead|pg|| nt|aldek: Witaj Grzesiu, Roland poslal mnie do zamknietego pokoju zeby moj polski wyprobowac|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Thanks|pg|| nt|bouncer: well,if they are in 4@S in OR u need to play careful|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|nt|tmice: well he found the J@s...|pg|| pc|h6|nt|garden2005: znasz znakomicie, witaj :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: was easy now yes:)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bouncer: on a @C lead from W|pg|| pc|c4|nt|sommer: the duck came!|pg|| nt|tmice: and he knows that W have the @d lenght..|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sK|nt|tmice: hmm|pg|| nt|bouncer: i play X like 4 in M and 5 in m|pg|| pc|h8|nt|hedyg: will that be enough?|pg|| nt|sommer: a little closer to "unmakeable" make:)|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|tmice: i play 2@s as 5-5M-m|pg|| nt|tmice: If east didnt bid i guess they would arrive in 4@s N/S|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|bouncer: mm,and 2@C as majors,2@D as multi,2@H/@S + a minor|pg|| pc|cA|nt|hedyg: good duck|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|tmice: multilandy:)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bouncer: yes,most likely|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|garden2005: z³a obrona niestety|pg|| nt|tmice: brb|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|nt|hedyg: just a boring push|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAK3H5DAK43CAJT93,S4HAQ82DJT95CQ742,SQJ752H963D876C85,ST986HKJT74DQ2CK6|sv|o|nt|sybarra: my fellow commentator is Frank Budai from Australia, guess its good evening to you Frank |pg|| nt|mcphee: and we are off!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: you may watch all rooms same time|pg|| nt|vugraph35: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/index.html|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Guten Morgen Merle, rehi|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome back!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome to our final segment!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Bonn|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone and welcome back to Stavanger for the Norwegian Club Team Championships. Seven rounds of 32-board matches; this is the second half of a match from round 3|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to GeO Tislevoll, Thomas Nylund and Kenneth Skov, all from Norway|pg|| nt|tmice: Hi all|pg|| nt|geot: Hi frds, welcome|pg|| nt|kskov: hi all|pg|| nt|tmice: I see that Peter and Rune is out in this second halv...|pg|| nt|vugraph119: play now :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: g'day all|pg|| mb|p|nt|tmice: halv=half..|pg|| nt|westjava: hi all,good afternoon|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Hamdi Karluk and Andrei Varlan|pg|| mb|1C|nt|sybarra: Our operator is Felix Zimmerman |pg|| nt|vugraph35: E/W playing some kind of polish club |pg|| nt|h_karluk: NS are brothers|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: .|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last 8 boards of the final|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: Hi friends, and welcome|pg|| nt|westjava: here we are, Indonesian National Championships QF1 Inter Provinces, North Sulawesi(celebes) vs Banten|pg|| nt|westjava: from serpong,banten,this is semi final Ind National Champships|pg|| nt|aupillon: Thanks Roland for the job you do for the bridge community :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|vugraphh2: le mieux ds le meilleu des mondes|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html|pg|| nt|vugraph153: Witam wszystkich|pg|| nt|vugraph153: przed nami 5 segment z 8|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hamdi, do you know their basic system if ever ?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 2@d or x?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|frankaus: we say g'day at all time of day - too lazy or innebriated to check if the suns out!!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=8983 Nevzat AYDOGDU Orthopedic Dr|pg|| nt|h_karluk: green sys Andrei|pg|| mb|3H|nt|sybarra: lol |pg|| nt|westjava: 8 teams : Sulut VS Banten, Jabar Vs Gorontalo, Sumbar Vs Sulsel, Jateng Vs DKI|pg|| nt|aupillon: He played it the natural way|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: Hegrand wants partner to bid, mayb 2D from him would have been as good a bid? But any trump E/W choose is splitting 3-3:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: ok, thanks|pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: 25 pts EW for 3NT but only 8 tricks|pg|| nt|mcphee: well this one is going down|pg|| nt|westjava: West Java vs Jakarta|pg|| nt|h_karluk: yw - as far as i remember from their first session|pg|| nt|aupillon: 1 spade, 1 club, 2 diamonds it seems to me|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=4860 Terje AA|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=5433 Jorgen MOLBERG|pg|| nt|aupillon: but it seems some spades the other way unreacheable|pg|| nt|aupillon: if he doubles N 'll say 3 spades|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=21189 Hohn Helge HERLAND|pg|| nt|aupillon: is he thinking, vugraph ?|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: to reopen maybe|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph35: short break to get some water|pg|| pc|dA|nt|sybarra: 3 @H looks like a retransfer |pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=21850 Fikret AYDOGDU A police Commander on HQ|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Sten Bjertnes|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|westjava: the other semi final is North Sulawesi vs South Sulawesi|pg|| nt|aupillon: he needs immediately to open the spade ruff in dummy|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N/S playing strong club, 1 @d preparatory 0+ @d |pg|| nt|sybarra: they had 9 tricks in NT |pg|| nt|frankaus: arrived at the right terminus - |pg|| nt|mcphee: avoided @H lead, but that will not last long|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3746 Per Erik AUSTBERG|pg|| nt|rmac: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N doesn't look very happy|pg|| nt|sten: hi Roland|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|westjava: the new comer,I think is Gorontalo|pg|| pc|h9|nt|scoubi: c bien d'avoir une opératrice si heureuse !!!|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|chmitty: Le déclarant joue un peu avec le feu mais il est raisonnable de penser que Nord n'a pas 6 cartes à @s, vu la non-intervention|pg|| nt|geot: These two pairs are both very experienced, with a lot of appearances in Norw Champs finals, and E/W has also some titles|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Gerben42: can understand he will make 5...|pg|| nt|juror1: witamy Tomka Gotarda|pg|| pc|dK|nt|frankaus: now need to negotiate the traffic - may not be easy|pg|| nt|vugraph35: west thinking|pg|| nt|sybarra: declarer might get tapped a time or 2 |pg|| pc|d9|nt|rmac: hi gerben|pg|| nt|Gerben42: welcome Ralph|pg|| nt|tomek: witam wszystkich|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|aupillon: South is somewhere put in hand with no good exit card|pg|| pc|cA|nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3744 Erik SAELENSMINDE|pg|| nt|geot: Think diamond contract is a bit better, where you can ruff club on the shortest trump hand|pg|| nt|tomek: bardzo dobra obrona Skrzypczaka|pg|| nt|garden2005: czeœæ Tomek|pg|| pc|c2|nt|tomek: cz Grzesiu|pg|| pc|c8|nt|frankaus: not easy to find the 3@D fit with these methods|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all 4 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|westjava: Denny Sacul-Munawar Sawirudin vs Ong Keng Hin-Very Pangkerego|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|Gerben42: still to find game on these hands is not easy|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|Gerben42: 3@d = dont like @C, then what can S do|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|sybarra: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html is the link to the tournament website, German as well as English|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c3|nt|h_karluk: I think 2rounds @d would not change anything|pg|| mc|9|nt|aupillon: So : we won't ruff spades |pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAKJ985HAT43DAK4C,SQT4HJ72DJ52CAKJ4,S32HKQ98D93CQT832,S76H65DQT876C9765|sv|n|nt|sommer: it became a little more interesting than expected|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: w 2 lewie @SQ|pg|| nt|garden2005: nie to, odejœcie @c jest niedobre|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: ale rozgrywajaca zawsze mogla poradzic sobie|pg|| nt|bouncer: no, i stole it from fantoni/nunes:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: 7@S on|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: but i dont think they get there:)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|andersk: Hi all|pg|| nt|andersk: are there any commentators here|pg|| nt|liujing: Õâ¸ö¾Ö¿öEW¿ª1NTÒ»°ãºÅ³ÆÊÇ10-12µÄ£¬ËùÒÔÖ»ÄÜ¿ª½Ð 1@D|pg|| mb|1N|nt|vugraph117: yes you|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na drugim stole Pazur tez trafil pika wiec kwit|pg|| nt|bouncer: 6 @C now i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|tmice: kids fighting, so i am on/off sometimes:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: but bad @C split|pg|| nt|sten: yes but will find out that it depends on the hearts |pg|| mb|2N!|nt|andersk: Im not supposed to be here:) but open room, i guess we are short ofcommentators|pg|| nt|vugraph117: yes i guess so|pg|| nt|garden2005: jak pobi³a drug¹ rundê pików, to nie zawsze|pg|| nt|bouncer: dont give them sugar:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: y|pg|| nt|sten: probably with hearts as trumph|pg|| nt|bouncer: to early in the match i think,to get to grand|pg|| mb|p|nt|tmice: to late....:)|pg|| mb|3H|nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: no X with void|pg|| nt|sybarra: gm all |pg|| mb|5N|nt|aldek: EW maja razem 25 punktow, ale zadnej koncowki nie moga wygrac |pg|| nt|garden2005: gdyby dziewczyny gra³y kiery nonstop|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: he might have done it after pass, but I agree|pg|| nt|tmice: or maybe 4@H... |pg|| nt|sten: a question here when you answer the aces with west's hand is the 6th heart as good as the queen or ...|pg|| mb|7H|nt|hedyg: 4@c ok|pg|| nt|aldek: poprawna licytacja G-Skrz|pg|| nt|bouncer: no he didnt:)|pg|| nt|sten: hehe|pg|| nt|sten: what do you think?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sommer: 5@c is very close|pg|| nt|sommer: ..so 4@C should make easily|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi again all|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome, Judy Bramley!|pg|| nt|onebid: still close I see|pg|| mb|p|nt|andersk: tx for helping out J:)|pg|| nt|onebid: np Anders - great bridge in this event|pg|| pc|d6|nt|onebid: 11 tricks|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Morning Shirley, welcome|pg|| nt|sybarra: ty gm Roland and all |pg|| pc|dA|nt|sommer: W has to run @H9 to make 5@C, I guess|pg|| nt|bouncer: now they are luckey i think.6@C is a good spot|pg|| nt|bouncer: they play 2/1 dont they?|pg|| pc|d2|nt|milaszewsk: szansa na zysk|pg|| nt|tmice: sound contract this time...|pg|| nt|bouncer: but was 3@C forcing then?|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|nt|sten: I think they play it as GF except with rebid of minor|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|tmice: yes i think maybe E Homme should push on with his bare A@s..|pg|| nt|bouncer: if it was,ok then.|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|garden2005: dla Ramondta wszystko jest ju¿ jasne|pg|| nt|garden2005: wykorzystujemy atuta partnera|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na drugim stole pazur otworzyl 2@c i ten kontrakt rozgrywa (z kontra)|pg|| nt|aldek: 2@C slabe na starszych kolorach jest po partii raczej niebezbieczne|pg|| nt|aldek: niebezpieczne dla uzytkownikow|pg|| nt|aldek: i zyskowne dla przeciwnikow, moim zdaniem|pg|| nt|vugraph153: jak na slabe otwarcie to Pazur mial bardzo duzo|pg|| nt|tmice: mm|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|aldek: faktycznie i tez bedzie 800 kosztowac|pg|| pc|h8|nt|hedyg: W has to open in 3rd seat to make 5@c:)|pg|| nt|gracelin: srry, not readable.|pg|| nt|garden2005: Skrzypczak niepotrzebnie czas traci, ale nie ma mu jak tego przekazaæ:)|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|s2|nt|bouncer: next:)|pg|| pc|s6|nt|milaszewsk: teraz trzeba !|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: @C|pg|| nt|bouncer: anyway strange bidding|pg|| nt|sten: about the play nothing much to say|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|milaszewsk: odwrot w @S niezrozumialy|pg|| nt|vugraph153: ale dalej nie ma jak wygrac|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: 3@H, 2@S, 2@D i @C lub 3@D|pg|| pc|s3|nt|hedyg: EW play strong @c and he would have had to open 1@d.......|pg|| nt|tmice: yes|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|hedyg: not an attractive idea|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Bonjour à l'expert de la peche a la ligne|pg|| nt|chris3108: bonjour:)|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Little Touftouf|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|milaszewsk: rzeczywiscie po @HA odwrot @H oblozy|pg|| pc|hK|nt|chris3108: reprise de la selection des moins de 28 ans pour pékin |pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|milaszewsk: teraz juz nie oblozy|pg|| pc|h6|nt|garden2005: kibice bardzo czêsto prosz¹ komentatorów o analizê i pisanie rzeczowe, a jak widaæ nie jest to proste, szczególnie w rozdaniach skomplikowanych|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAKJ985HAT43DAK4C,SQT4HJ72DJ52CAKJ4,S32HKQ98D93CQT832,S76H65DQT876C9765|sv|n|nt|sybarra: can not believe E would not lead a @H |pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bbotv.com/v2/client_v10/bbo.php?m=n&v=y Anyone may watch other rooms same time for VUGRAPH events|pg|| nt|Gerben42: other room in 4@S|pg|| nt|westjava: jeffrey moningkey-yanny couple with henky lasut-eddy manoppo in OR|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: 1@D (1@H) 1@S (2@H) 3@S|pg|| nt|westjava: 20-20 hcp now|pg|| nt|aupillon: this is a good 7 (seven) Hearts !|pg|| nt|h_karluk: slam..@s or @h ? :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|frankaus: i can sympethise with the 4@S choice here|pg|| nt|sybarra: maybe only 8 tricks in nt |pg|| nt|mcphee: I am pleased to see Renouard did not open |pg|| mb|1N|nt|frankaus: last that is |pg|| nt|sybarra: right, still talking about that also |pg|| nt|geot: but likely a push, of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: With both AQ in diamonds in north he was home|pg|| nt|tomek: Ciezkie, praktycznie niemozliwe, 4@S do wygrania na WE|pg|| nt|westjava: 4 imps for Jakarta was carry over|pg|| nt|aupillon: let's see if they'll find the 4/4 fit better than ANYTHING |pg|| mb|2N!|an|forc|nt|westjava: normal lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph117: NS play pretty natural with 5 card maj|pg|| nt|vugraph117: So do EW, but 5-4 in majors|pg|| mb|3C!|an|rele|nt|geot: well place honors and nice fit here for N/S, so 4S will make|pg|| nt|kskov: cant see a way to avoid 9 tricks here... |pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: with @D lead -2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this wont be fun for EW|pg|| nt|aupillon: 3 clubs/ 3 hearts now|pg|| mb|3H|nt|frankaus: ugly to face a difficult choice on the first board|pg|| nt|kskov: so lets hope the next board is a bit more interesting|pg|| nt|h_karluk: to AA 4 queens are missing|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: this looks like good chance|pg|| nt|sten: they play with 5c spades and 4c hearts|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: Prananta-Taufik Nasution was 4th rank in National Selection last month|pg|| nt|kotstak: hi|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Hi Takis, welcome|pg|| nt|kotstak: to 2 koupes tha einai ena kalo skor giati an brethei h dysh sto reopening oi E/W tha synagonistoun mallon sta karo opote to pithanotero einai -50|pg|| nt|kotstak: gia E/W|pg|| mb|4H|nt|sten: Smith-Evjen|pg|| nt|westjava: trappy deal with 20-20|pg|| nt|garden2005: têpe 4@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: but might gain imps if other room plays 3NT from other side|pg|| nt|aupillon: queens are for gentlemen, not for bridge players...:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: come on, now...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: what can i say when my friend Andrei tells so :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: in addition @c A and @h K|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: Dupraz a voulu indiquer un bicolore mineur, mais le message n'est pas passé ... à juste titre d'ailleurs d'après moi|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: if they ve some methods to investigate all then all ok|pg|| pc|cA|nt|h_karluk: nice hold up|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but can that be bid?|pg|| nt|garden2005: brak cue@h|pg|| nt|tomek: Powinien byc maly zysk, przeciwnicy na drugim stole przelicytowali|pg|| nt|aupillon: No, no, let me take a beer. Sorry folks. No good|pg|| pc|c2|nt|sybarra: plays ace and sp and should be home |pg|| pc|c6|nt|h_karluk: @c 3 ok to discard|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|geot: If he believes the hearts are 5-3 he may go wrong...but as the first tricks went they look to be 4-4|pg|| nt|aupillon: 13 tricks later they'll be a little bit angry about this|pg|| nt|cindy: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Cindy Marshall from USA|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Not expressing it, Molberg_ Aa very disiplined at the table|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|chmitty: 2SA est plutôt du genre xxx D10x RVX Vxxx je pense |pg|| pc|s2|nt|kskov: could have been interesting with @s 4-2 and the 4th @s with A of @c, but here he can't go wrong|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: sacul-munawar + lasut-manoppo is runner up of senior world champship at shanghai 2007|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the 1@H minipsyche stole the board :)|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@s wyjaœni³aby teraz sprawê:) nierealne marzenie|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|mcphee: here comes the @S|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|frankaus: yes seeing his lordship fall is nice|pg|| nt|westjava: @h and @H again...|pg|| pc|hT|nt|h_karluk: in th tank for sure |pg|| nt|h_karluk: easy 9 now|pg|| nt|Gerben42: other room: East 1@D, West 1@H...|pg|| nt|tomek: Gracz S nie powinien za duzo kombinowac, tylko czekac spokojnie na swoje dwie lewy|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|westjava: oops|pg|| nt|garden2005: wiadomo ale serce moje podpowiada³o pomarañczowej koszulce, skuœ:)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|westjava: Ong Keng Hin - Very Pangkerego is 5th rank of national selection open last month|pg|| nt|h_karluk: when plays rounds @s it is time to push board|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Gerben42: both rooms bid 1@H, must be me but I wouldn't think of it|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi Gerben, hi all|pg|| nt|sten: Vidar Smith in south is a very good matchpoint player|pg|| nt|geot: he may try to get 4 tricks in spade the wrong way....but that will be on a bad day.... I guess he just play clubs?|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|geot: he can finesse in spades Kenneth?|pg|| nt|kskov: yes|pg|| nt|geot: Spade ace dropping the ten, spade to the Q....:) and....|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|geot: but didn't hearts look like 4-4? |pg|| nt|kskov: hehe, but he went for the @c's :-(|pg|| mc|12|nt|mcphee: still looks to be 2 in the dumper|pg|| nt|h_karluk: * three rounds @s|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S65HAJ843D643CJ82,SAQJ73H76DT852CQT,S82HQ5DQ9CA976543,SKT94HKT92DAKJ7CK|sv|e|nt|sommer: great result here for NS close room|pg|| nt|tmice: 4@h - 4@s|pg|| nt|tmice: 5@h - 5@s :)|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes 3 club was forcing|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|tmice: ok tx|pg|| nt|bouncer: This is the 3time Ksand is in the finals in 3 year.Strong!|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: "some" might miss 4@H here and there|pg|| nt|garden2005: Ewa rz¹dzi podawaniem kart i tempem zmiany - robi to jak b³yskawica|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a mimo to 4 rozdania w 40 minut|pg|| nt|chris3108: entame @s contre 3 sa pas une bonne idée sur cette donne :(|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: lets see.......|pg|| nt|sommer: not here of course:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@D=@H|pg|| nt|tmice: yes thats strong, but they have good players to:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: Been big cards E/W,last match as well|pg|| nt|sten: partscore swing on the first board|pg|| mb|2N|nt|hedyg: 5+@Hs|pg|| nt|sommer: the problem is 7 losers at S|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@H will show 4 card fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 4@H as well LOL|pg|| nt|garden2005: ale przynajmniej tu nadrabia:)|pg|| nt|tmice: would you pass 2@d Per?|pg|| nt|bouncer: Not so big club. about 6-8 tabels are playing i think|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|sommer: wd|pg|| nt|garden2005: w pokoju otwartym jednostronna licytacja w tym rozdaniu|pg|| mb|4S|nt|hedyg: maybe E should have raised @cs with 4 cards|pg|| nt|onebid: nice agreement to have|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: though.........|pg|| nt|hedyg: 5@c was -2|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: this mean min and 4card support|pg|| mb|p|pc|c2|nt|onebid: too high|pg|| nt|aldek: dobry szlemik, na podwojnym ficie|pg|| nt|garden2005: coœ Skrzypek nie ma wêchu z @d KDx|pg|| nt|tmice: i was watching Kvangraven in the Youth Team World cup in France, and he has been a very good player after finishing the youth period to!|pg|| nt|chris3108: l enchere de 3@c montre une main de 2 eme zone avec une belle couleur 6 me |pg|| pc|cT|nt|johnp: We hope all of you are prepared for to morrows marathon-bridge from Norway. From 09:00 - 22:00. |pg|| nt|scoubi: bjr stephane|pg|| nt|chris3108: 3 sa un peu poussé chez poulat mais bon pour gagner il faut trouver le roi de @c placé second ou sec ! |pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| nt|hedyg: bidding vulnerable 3@c not very appealing|pg|| nt|garden2005: no i co po takiej licytacji winien jest Gierulski?|pg|| nt|bouncer: on a @D lead,u have a lot of work to do|pg|| nt|sten: should be 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|chris3108: salut step :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s9|nt|kalliste: l'entame@h livre la 9ème|pg|| pc|c8|nt|bouncer: yes he is classplayer|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sommer: yes, but a @Csupport might have made the job easier for S ..and hard to sacrifice|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs suggesting 3NT in W with @d lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: though i dont see why N wouldnt lead pds suit|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome to john Stewart from canada. tx for joining us|pg|| nt|onebid: notice Geir's unblock to retain trump entry if needed|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|onebid: Hi Jon :)|pg|| nt|tmice: yes very good, and a gentleman to..|pg|| nt|bouncer: :)|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|nt|garden2005: wiele rozdañ nie wymaga komentarza, choæby obecne:)|pg|| nt|liujing: NS½ÐÅÆµÄÊֶλ¹ÊDz»Éٵ쬲»¹ý¶ÔÅÆÖµµÄÀí½â»¹ÊÇÓÐЩ²î¾à£¬±±¼Ò¸ß»¨Ê²Ã´¶¼Ã»ÓУ¬»¹Ò»Ö±ÔÚÊÔ̽£¬ÄÏÈ´ÎÞ¶¯ÓÚÖÔ|pg|| nt|liujing: Ò»Ö±¶¼Ã»ÏÔʾ¸ß»¨µÄ¿ØÖÆ|pg|| nt|kalliste: de nouveau, un retour neutre en N apres dame@d |pg|| pc|s5|nt|kalliste: grâce au 5@d , malarme connait les 6@d de de Tessier, et donc une main 6421, surement avec roi@h second|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|tmice: i think if M Homme got a bid from pd here she would x this contract...|pg|| nt|bouncer: they make 3@S E/W.but its harder to get in to the bidding here|pg|| nt|bouncer: y,but think he goes down on a @Dlead|pg|| nt|bouncer: rules:)|pg|| nt|sten: agree|pg|| nt|bouncer: but the normal lead is maybe a high @S|pg|| nt|sten: or maybe not ... |pg|| pc|h7|nt|kalliste: aie|pg|| pc|h5|nt|hedyg: 3NT was played and made at a few tables|pg|| nt|hedyg: maybe 1NT overcall..|pg|| nt|hedyg: however.................maybe EW play raptor NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: in which case W cannot bid 1NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/RGlossary/Raptor.html|pg|| nt|sommer: hard for us to see the problem here, but S doesn't know, that both MA are 1-1|pg|| nt|hedyg: also called Polish NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: he will have to decide|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sommer: as the cards lie, he cant go wrong|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|bouncer: but is a nice jugdement of molberg to bid 3 nt|pg|| nt|sten: you have to duck spades otherweis no problem|pg|| pc|hA|nt|johnp: Hello Judy @h|pg|| nt|vugraph153: teraz Holenderka stanela przed powaznym problemem|pg|| pc|h6|nt|garden2005: chocia¿ wyjœcie bokiem nie jest polecane, maj¹c trzy potencjalne lewy|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|hedyg: would W have led K@S with stiff AK?|pg|| nt|bouncer: he still only have 8|pg|| nt|bouncer: noe as well|pg|| nt|bouncer: now|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S65HAJ843D643CJ82,SAQJ73H76DT852CQT,S82HQ5DQ9CA976543,SKT94HKT92DAKJ7CK|sv|e|nt|sybarra: another 4 @S hand |pg|| nt|mcphee: no way he went up ace|pg|| nt|ybob: easy 4@S NS here|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 22 vs 18|pg|| nt|chmitty: Ca leur fera un sujet de discussion pour le diner|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it's a nice spot to use alert card about unusual calls, anyway most TDs believe if partner is also deceived then no foul.|pg|| nt|geot: He could have cashed two spades though....see if jack drops|pg|| nt|kskov: that is the best play|pg|| nt|westjava: 22-18 hacp now|pg|| nt|westjava: hcp|pg|| nt|aupillon: Remark, when you play 4, you do what to want to not annoy partener|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i hope other room has more lively auction|pg|| nt|aupillon: keep us in touch if you can.|pg|| mb|2D|an|multi|nt|mcphee: yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4@h for EW|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4 @s for EW|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: how many 1H by N ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: possible to over reach |pg|| nt|garden2005: Holendrzy graj¹ zaje.. pomarañczowych koszulkach, ra¿¹cych w oczy a na sercu maj¹ przyklejone bia³e trzylistne koniczynki:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: 2 diamonds i s multi 4441 and all|pg|| mb|3C|an|non forc|nt|frankaus: @H|pg|| nt|sybarra: N opens some form of weak H! |pg|| nt|sybarra: @H |pg|| nt|rmac: rehi|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hi Ralph|pg|| nt|westjava: we dont see imp compare...>|pg|| mb|d|nt|sybarra: multi works here, will see E treatment of defense to multi here |pg|| nt|geot: 25hcp, 3NT will make since the one with the heartshas no entry. But will they get there?|pg|| nt|kskov: dbl now from Allard?|pg|| nt|kskov: invitational|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 spades, yes , with no much hard work|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: hi hamdi|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: 8 teams : Sulut VS Banten, Jabar Vs Gorontalo, Sumbar Vs Sulsel, Jateng Vs DKI|pg|| nt|tomek: Troche pechowo dla biolo-czerwonych. Normalnie powinien byc duzy zysk z przelicytowania zawodnikow holenderskich|pg|| nt|cindy: 5C good save|pg|| mb|4S|nt|geot: D= invite for game|pg|| nt|geot: now Hegrand entered. And N/S should be out of it. E/W in trouble|pg|| nt|westjava: 27 hacp NS|pg|| nt|aupillon: 3 down, yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: if North had overcalled 1NT it would probably have ended the bidding, now they will bid it I think|pg|| nt|kskov: 4@c is risky from Hegrand|pg|| nt|geot: Yes, with singleton heart it seems a bit risky, and no reason to bid. Then better bid 2C the first time|pg|| nt|kskov: Allard taking his time, will he pass. 4@s is not a good bid now in my opinion|pg|| nt|kskov: better to double again then|pg|| nt|geot: Wests hand is a litte to weak for a direct overcall, maybe....but I like it. Bidding 2C over 1S, and you are not unhappy if partner jump to 3NT for excample...|pg|| nt|westjava: quarter final Ind National Chamship|pg|| nt|westjava: hcp|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: X here may be passed out|pg|| nt|sybarra: true|pg|| nt|frankaus: should not be off course|pg|| nt|geot: I think Allard has shown enough, and so do he|pg|| nt|kskov: agree, better go get in early in the auction, less risk|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 1@c , 2 @d and 2 @s doubled -3 = 500 vs 620|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|Gerben42: hi everyone|pg|| nt|Gerben42: please welcome Hedy Grey, Switzerland|pg|| nt|hedyg: hello:)|pg|| nt|sten: absolutely GeO ... I should know because we have played on the same team for about 15 years I think|pg|| nt|aupillon: you are so right; maybe Aa could have said 4 clubs to provoke the pre-emptive|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|frankaus: nice bid|pg|| nt|rmac: wont quite fetch|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Ralph do you agree with Hanlon's cue here ?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: in the category "you never know!|pg|| nt|rmac: very much so|pg|| nt|h_karluk: stopper ask i think|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I dont like 3@H, after unfav. 2@C overcall pd heard you the 1st time|pg|| nt|rmac: of course asking|pg|| nt|rmac: spade rates to be onside so looks like a very gd shot to me|pg|| nt|h_karluk: this is a nice spot that most bridge player should recognize at events. My partner is not a blind one |pg|| nt|geot: North showing 18-19|pg|| nt|westjava: easy landing|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|chmitty: Un flanc attentif devrait battre ici|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|aupillon: Bonjour. Excusez du retard mais je commentais en salle ouverte !|pg|| nt|mcphee: 4 or 5 depending on the @D guess it seems|pg|| nt|ybob: bj :)|pg|| nt|tomek: Ostre otwarcie wykluczylo z licytacji pare WE, pomimo przewagi sily|pg|| nt|tomek: poprawna obrona powinna zakonczyc sie wpadka|pg|| nt|h_karluk: +3 IMPs|pg|| pc|h6|nt|rmac: ducking is a waste of time|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Mesbur probably could have bid 2NT with the correct hand for 3NT|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2NT would not be natural with 3 players bidding|pg|| nt|h_karluk: partner saw 2 @c card and preferred to use 3@c, then i do not understand to ask @h stopper at 3 level while 2 NT not seen there...|pg|| pc|h5|nt|sybarra: so single @D lead, |pg|| nt|frankaus: nice dummy PD !!!!!!!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Wladow also bid 3@H|pg|| nt|rmac: he has the right hand for 3nt but the spade king is off|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe he bid it because he felt Hanlon would try it being 40 behind|pg|| nt|geot: surprised East didn't try a heart lead, but nothing will be threat anyway|pg|| nt|westjava: normal lead (rusinov)|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|nt|hedyg: and now?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: EW escaped here... 3@H was, well, down|pg|| nt|hedyg: way down:)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: anyway 3NT is an easy contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: what a pd! i bid 3@h and he leads @d!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: only a small @C gives you more than the 3 Aces|pg|| nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| nt|hedyg: i would too|pg|| nt|tomek: Rozgrywajacy moze uskrobac tylko 7 lew, 3+2+1+1|pg|| pc|sA|nt|sybarra: I never bring these to my pard |pg|| nt|frankaus: may yet go off|pg|| nt|sybarra: we had discussion in a match yesterday re passing first 2 @D bid, and double after, being stronger than initial dble (as played by some) |pg|| pc|c3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|frankaus: ooooooooppppppppppps|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mcphee: i just bang down AK@D on these hands, as if the Q fails to fall you endplay someone|pg|| nt|hedyg: maybe should have taken last @s and played another|pg|| nt|garden2005: witamy Karola Mykietyna - "kamyk" :)|pg|| nt|tomek: Ladne podegranie damy przez Bogusia|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Gerben42: if not @CK off, maybe @CK is off?|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Gerben42: one of them is a @S|pg|| nt|kotstak: den brethike i antam alla to - 1 mallon tha einai to pithanotero|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|nt|hedyg: bd 9 1NT +6!!!!|pg|| pc|s6|nt|h_karluk: true|pg|| pc|s7|nt|rmac: poor play lead 10 and unblock 7 is best|pg|| nt|westjava: 6@D,1@C and 3@H|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|h_karluk: agreed|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: claim|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|sybarra: needed the @H k as entry for another ruff |pg|| pc|dA|nt|frankaus: Pheww!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: strange contract with 5@D cold...|pg|| pc|d3|nt|frankaus: was readdy for a round of applause if they found the defence to shoot it|pg|| nt|vugraph35: west is probably thinking about if to play north for 4 @S in 3rd hand or 3- @S and @C breaking good|pg|| pc|d5|nt|h_karluk: while no entry to back hand|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|chmitty: disparition de la levée de chute|pg|| pc|cK|nt|rmac: nice play|pg|| nt|geot: Hegrand is actualle lucky with the lay out, he will go "only" two down, only one club loser|pg|| nt|kamyk: witam|pg|| pc|c2|nt|geot: maybe he will not dare to take the spade finesse now, and just take his 9|pg|| pc|cT|nt|sybarra: would have brilliant defense, if pard would believe to underlead aq of @H |pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|aupillon: and ... play a card now|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SA62HQT7DACAKT873,SQJT8HJ86DQT43C42,SK74HA52DKJ976CQ6,S953HK943D852CJ95|sv|b|nt|sommer: maybe not|pg|| nt|sommer: coffee-4@S?|pg|| nt|garden2005: a jednak te¿ 4@h:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na nasze szczescie Gosia sclaimowala dwie lewy i rozdanie sie skonczylo|pg|| nt|tmice: 3NT N/S|pg|| nt|scoubi: re bjr stephane !|pg|| nt|kalliste: bonjour Christophe, bonjour à tous|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: OK you can have the ace of trumps|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|garden2005: ³atwo mo¿na wypuœciæ, gdy¿ partner mo¿e posiadaæ jednego "dobrego" króla|pg|| nt|bouncer: 2@S looks like a push|pg|| nt|vugraph117: ..|pg|| mb|2C|nt|hedyg: After the conclusion of the Round Robin the leading teams from each group will play a final of 3rounds of 8 boards|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: I bet that Sveidal and Kåre K is in 6@C|pg|| nt|bouncer: on nr 2|pg|| nt|kalliste: 3@c, 4 atouts dans une main limite|pg|| mb|2D|nt|hedyg: At the same time the remaining 18 teams will play 3 more rounds of 8 boards in a swiss style|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|an|Forcing|mb|p|nt|hedyg: no rematches with teams from their own group|pg|| nt|onebid: 2NT some serious try?|pg|| nt|bouncer: small @C lead|pg|| mb|3N|nt|tmice: well you dont get any bets from me, when thoose "kids" are bidding:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|tmice: well a good contract for K BK|pg|| nt|sten: or J of hearts|pg|| nt|bouncer: or jof@H:)|pg|| nt|sten: hehe|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 4@c RKC|pg|| nt|hedyg: nice spacesaver|pg|| nt|vugraph153: wszystkie pary na sali oprocz dwoch zagraly koncowke|pg|| nt|vugraph153: jedna z par kobiecych 4 karo|pg|| nt|garden2005: wyj¹tkowo brzydka karta po splinterze, nie pozosta³o z niej prawie nic ...:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a Kalita-Kotorowicz 7@d !|pg|| nt|garden2005: m³odoœæ:) odwaga:) nastrój:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a latwo nie mieli bo holendrzy tez blokowali 3@c i 4@c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch 8! vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Open one browser window per table|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: and good stop|pg|| nt|onebid: Oh dear - surely that should be RKC?|pg|| nt|bouncer: y,they have 130 in @C N/S|pg|| nt|tmice: they have 3NT N/S|pg|| pc|hT|nt|aldek: to nie jest latwy kontrakt do grania|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bouncer: yes if u hit the @D after @S lead:)|pg|| nt|tmice: 5@c, 3@h, and 1 trick in spade or dia... if they do right in @d|pg|| nt|bouncer: I feel this 16 boards can take a while...........................................|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|nt|aldek: Skrzypczak wpuszcza przeciwnikow|pg|| nt|garden2005: 9 lew bedzie:(|pg|| nt|aldek: Chyba nie mozna wygrac|pg|| nt|aldek: jak obroncy mu nie dadza dojsc do reki|pg|| nt|kalliste: un chelem à 50%, le demander c'est bien, ne pas le jouer aussi:)|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraph117: think quantitative|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|bouncer: maybe he try 2 to hide some cards|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|d6|nt|sten: in open they hav finished 7 boards|pg|| nt|sten: have |pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h6|nt|tmice: hmm|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| nt|sten: who has dJ?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|bouncer: but i am not sure if i would pass on kvammes card|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|s2|nt|sten: 2 down|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SA62HQT7DACAKT873,SQJT8HJ86DQT43C42,SK74HA52DKJ976CQ6,S953HK943D852CJ95|sv|b|nt|frankaus: S can lead a SP card but will N beleive it |pg|| nt|mcphee: 4@S a good save|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|kskov: no, for Vikersund :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: 4 @S+1ns likely here |pg|| nt|ybob: 10 tricks in @H NS, 9 in @S EW|pg|| nt|mcphee: if E bids it at once it will get interesting|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@H in 3rd seat|pg|| nt|kskov: but could he loose anything on pitching the @d?|pg|| nt|kotstak: 3 NT to pithanotero kai kalytero symbolaio |pg|| mb|1D|nt|frankaus: good hands give the dealing machine operator a raise |pg|| nt|Gerben42: only 1?|pg|| nt|hedyg: i think so|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so 3NT needed: @CK onside, @SK onside and South cannot have 3@C |pg|| nt|aupillon: 3NT on route..../ on the way :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: and there you have it|pg|| nt|mcphee: places a problem to S and N|pg|| nt|geot: A normal 4H here, but will be problematic to win as the cards lay|pg|| nt|aupillon: 6 clubs in our furious dreams |pg|| nt|h_karluk: slammish..such as 6@c for NS..needs a good endplay|pg|| mb|3C|nt|vugraphh2: theone before claimed and gives one D|pg|| nt|chmitty: le top à 6SA mais déclarer 6@h serait très bien|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|rmac: david greenwood, north at other table, is a frequent commentator his login is jtr|pg|| nt|westjava: sry for incovenience...just set the computer|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: seems to be stuck on @S games |pg|| nt|mcphee: i doubt they defend|pg|| nt|cindy: that might help|pg|| nt|aupillon: as you perfectly say|pg|| nt|h_karluk: for now west has not bright chances to get rid of his hig cards..so potential thrown in play line there|pg|| nt|cindy: control in all side suits|pg|| nt|h_karluk: *high|pg|| mb|4C|nt|ybob: now 5@H -1 ?|pg|| nt|rmac: as it happens, yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 24 vs 16 Hcp|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3NT - 3 was a push|pg|| nt|westjava: fantastic score in the OR..!|pg|| nt|westjava: even NS bid small slam here|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: wd from Perez|pg|| nt|mcphee: very hard to pass a dble of 4@S as N when hand is all offensive|pg|| nt|ybob: agree|pg|| nt|hedyg: multi 2@D|pg|| nt|kskov: 4@s the superior contract here|pg|| nt|stoffers: 4 top loosers...|pg|| nt|aupillon: On 3NT rebid, I don't know. Ah !|pg|| nt|aupillon: South cannot stop now, I guess|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 diamonds|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 hearts|pg|| nt|h_karluk: maybe 4 @c minorwood|pg|| nt|aupillon: Blackwood|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|h_karluk: 20 vs 20 hcp|pg|| nt|chmitty: le choix de l'ouverture va fluidifier la séquence|pg|| nt|chmitty: s'ils jouent cette convention, 3@s serait demande de contrôle, avec réponse en écho à 3SA|pg|| nt|chmitty: qui indiquerait alors un contrôle @s en Sud|pg|| nt|Gerben42: that's fine by me, dont really like 1@H there|pg|| nt|hedyg: dont like 2@D either|pg|| nt|hedyg: like 2@d less|pg|| mb|4H|nt|tomek: Rozdanie raczej bez historii|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|sybarra: X is some form of card showing, (but I am not an expert on their system) |pg|| nt|h_karluk: hard to land 3@c|pg|| nt|aupillon: one key|pg|| mb|p|nt|garden2005: ciekawa 7@s zupe³nie niepolska|pg|| nt|kotstak: opou ean oi E/W paixoun deftero spathi h dysi sto 4o karo einai skouiz se koupes kai ton @sK gia 11 lebe|pg|| mb|4N|nt|frankaus: quick 11 here|pg|| nt|kskov: yes, with best def|pg|| nt|stoffers: I they csh them that is|pg|| nt|kotstak: alla me tin antam pika.........|pg|| nt|aupillon: take it slower now|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: this 3N seems to require less |pg|| nt|Gerben42: but bad @D break isnt helpful|pg|| nt|westjava: sry all,lost my conn|pg|| nt|cindy: cue bidding it looks like|pg|| nt|aupillon: yep|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 keys|pg|| mb|5D|nt|Gerben42: as it is, doesnt matter what you do|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|geot: with the trump length West does not lead his singleton|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: cash'em or you dont get 'em |pg|| nt|garden2005: du¿a iloœæ par ma ustalenie ¿e w kolor partnera pierwszy wist jest naturalny|pg|| nt|aupillon: 03/14|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hi Cindy. Welcome !)|pg|| nt|cindy: hi :)|pg|| mb|5S|nt|scoubi: bonjour michele|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @SA and a @H to lose|pg|| nt|stoffers: argh, the 1L coke having an effect on my keyboard now!|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: S'ils ne jouent pas cette convention, alors le 4@d de Sud devrait indiquer un contrôle @s par inférence|pg|| nt|rmac: and will get less|pg|| nt|westjava: yes,they are|pg|| nt|h_karluk: in addition without 2 controls 4@c should not be minorwood--i wld prefer 3 @h|pg|| nt|aupillon: with no heart second stopper say 6 clubs|pg|| nt|aupillon: please|pg|| nt|cindy: think 5S asks for kings|pg|| nt|aupillon: or grand slam force, I am afraid|pg|| nt|cindy: no need for grand slam force|pg|| nt|cindy: N knows S has AK of clubs|pg|| mb|6C|nt|hedyg: i would play small @s:(|pg|| nt|hedyg: just in case|pg|| nt|h_karluk: still hold on is Ok--because obvious @s stopper|pg|| nt|westjava: very friendly @C distrb...|pg|| nt|westjava: Taufik thinking...|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: I like K asks for count solves lots of cash out problems|pg|| nt|sybarra: saving the uptrick if not cashed |pg|| nt|vugraph35: a asks for count i think|pg|| nt|chmitty: et le 4@h de Nord devient alors très pessimiste|pg|| nt|sten: correct by north to bid 4h, but not a very promising game with the lay-out of the cards ... also impossible to stop before game here|pg|| nt|garden2005: dalej ju¿ odmiennie|pg|| nt|aupillon: cannot be an asking bid for the queen of clubs. he has it !|pg|| nt|cindy: 5H would be Q ask|pg|| nt|aupillon: Now, pard : make it|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Molberg thinking|pg|| nt|aupillon: AÏE !|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Partner opens 1D. In Lawrence style, the auction 1D-2C does not set up a game force. Responder may have invitational values for this bid.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Note: The Hardy style specifies that 1D-2C is forcing to game, but since the Forcing Notrump response is not available over 1D, this makes it |pg|| nt|h_karluk: impossible to describe an invitational hand with clubs. If you want to use 1D-2C as a game-force, it's a good idea to also play that 1D-3C is invitational (10-|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 11 pts., 6+-card suit). |pg|| nt|aupillon: Specs. I have bad news : at the other table they went down in 7 hearts. Mon Dieu :(|pg|| nt|cindy: he cant possibly bid 7|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hamdi, your knowledege about the American System impress me much :)|pg|| mb|7C|nt|kskov: hehe, coke error|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 54 af de 56 tilskuere er fra Norge i dette rum, så dere er velkomne til at kommentere på norsk i stedet for hvis dere foretrækker|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: mais bon tous les chemins mènent au chelem|pg|| nt|chmitty: ils ont beaucoup de jeu|pg|| nt|geot: then trumps....and heart J...should be possible?|pg|| nt|westjava: sry,prananta|pg|| nt|kamyk: na BA w kolor niepoparty z dubla gór¹ , a z trzech i wiecej - najnizsz¹ - taka jest ostatnio tendencja|pg|| nt|kotstak: +2 |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: I do too Frank |pg|| nt|stoffers: jaaaa|pg|| nt|stoffers: :)|pg|| nt|geot: wd|pg|| nt|Walddk4: OK, norsk da|pg|| nt|cindy: S could have bid 5N with an outside king|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i am a poor novice dear friend:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: you want to be in dummy for @H|pg|| nt|garden2005: tak, ale sk¹d 7-ka?:)|pg|| nt|garden2005: ja wyszed³bym 2@s|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kskov: jau|pg|| nt|aupillon: Don't say that. Anyway it 'll be a terrible board. Let me look if he's got 1 chance|pg|| nt|cindy: no chance|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i have a different idea-sorry|pg|| nt|h_karluk: preserve @s k at table|pg|| nt|h_karluk: cash @h A|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mcphee: N knows he is not going to get what he needs|pg|| nt|geot: and 3NT would also have failed|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Vienna coup|pg|| pc|s5|nt|hedyg: can go there with @c|pg|| nt|garden2005: kamyk zapewne te¿:)|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|h_karluk: run trumps|pg|| nt|aupillon: YES|pg|| pc|dA|nt|sybarra: gin |pg|| nt|stoffers: nice defence|pg|| nt|westjava: nice finess @D right,@C left...|pg|| pc|d3|nt|vugraph35: E/W prefer count everytme|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the next round will be journalists vs england (after germanygermany here)|pg|| nt|sybarra: I like count early in hand, on all suits, since I am blonde|pg|| nt|westjava: prananta is bbo'ers with nick 'MASKIO"|pg|| pc|d6|nt|aupillon: He can. Did he play that well ?|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|aupillon: trump, samall diam ruff|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|Gerben42: i dont disagree with you |pg|| nt|westjava: 9 tricks on @C finess|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Gerben42: 2 down coming up|pg|| nt|kotstak: allo ena exeretiko skor gia B/N|pg|| pc|c4|nt|kotstak: den einai omades h trith hmerida twn zebgwn einai alla logw texnikwn logwn emfanizontai ta apotelesmata se afth thn morfi|pg|| nt|kotstak: opote opws ginetai antilhpto oi anw exoun terastia shmasia|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|h_karluk: Right now 7 vugraph event same time on BBO|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bbotv.com/v2/client_v10/bbo.php?m=n&v=y You may watch another rooms sametime..enjoy pls|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N is thinking|pg|| nt|vugraph35: sorry, W |pg|| nt|Gerben42: good strategy by doctors in other room - play same contract as Irish|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|westjava: oopsss|pg|| nt|h_karluk: this inflicts agony on West collection|pg|| nt|aupillon: small|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|aupillon: small diamond, ruff|pg|| pc|c8|nt|westjava: for info: 8 teams : Sulut VS Banten, Jabar Vs Gorontalo, Sumbar Vs Sulsel, Jateng Vs DKI|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|nt|h_karluk: and then a thrown in occurs|pg|| pc|s8|nt|aupillon: heart|pg|| nt|h_karluk: on @s suit|pg|| pc|h2|nt|geot: East went up with the spade K, so declarer had some hopes, but got disappointed. This is likely a push too, now swings yet|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|aupillon: bon|pg|| nt|aupillon: spade|pg|| nt|aupillon: no, no spade|pg|| nt|cindy: thats called a miami endplay|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|geot: Tromsø scored the first imp, making 12 in the 4S since defenders did not cash the diamond trick|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sten: just one more overtrick for Tromsø on board 2|pg|| nt|garden2005: wist odmienny z dubletona ma³¹, nie sprawdza siê w praktycznej grze - g³ównie 9 x|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: other semi final north sulawesi vs south sulawesi|pg|| pc|dK|nt|sten: and +1 IMP|pg|| nt|geot: we are in stereo, Sten:)|pg|| nt|sten: but that's good, isn't it?|pg|| nt|geot: he he|pg|| nt|westjava: wd denny|pg|| pc|d8|nt|h_karluk: time to push the board|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|h_karluk: but for sure mine is a double dummy solution|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|aupillon: no way, i guess now|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| mc|12|nt|aupillon: it was the vienna Coup, as Hamdi said|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ7HK762DAKT8CQ53,SAKT98HT94D94CT94,S53HAJ8DJ653CK762,SJ642HQ53DQ72CAJ8|sv|n|nt|garden2005: trudne rozdanie, ale ostra gra pozosta³¹|pg|| nt|bouncer: I remember 1 time in Italia,think is was in EChampions 2001.I was recording behind AA-Grøtheim.It was the last match against France.|pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour a tous|pg|| nt|kalliste: Ouest, pouvait relancer par 5@c et reclamer ainsi le contrôle @s et conclure s'il pouvait à 6@d dans le fit 4 4|pg|| nt|kalliste: bonjour Michèle|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: Of course, RKC could have been better after 2@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|stewball: running scores available at http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| mb|2S|nt|hedyg: disciplined pass by W|pg|| nt|bouncer: 2@H |pg|| mb|3D|nt|liujing: 2@H = 4@S + 5m|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|onebid: another chance here|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hello again:)|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi Minnie|pg|| nt|stewball: lots of finesses:)|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hi Judy|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hi John|pg|| nt|stewball: 4nt-6nt looks a possibility|pg|| nt|onebid: and 2 work - not a great slam, but after last one who knows|pg|| nt|stewball: hey Minnie|pg|| nt|liujing: 4M+5m|pg|| nt|mgchat: ce chelem tient neanmoins a l'impasse @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Jim Hay from Scotland|pg|| nt|bouncer: And they have used a veeeeery long time for 12 boards,and french call the cops.|pg|| mb|p|nt|garden2005: rozd.4, jednym ze sposobów przed bezpoœrednim dogoleniem koñcówki jest zabezpieczenie sobie wistu|pg|| nt|ahh: hi all |pg|| nt|bouncer: Hoi Jim:)|pg|| nt|tmice: Hi Jim|pg|| nt|bouncer: And Terje look like a soccerplayer who had done nothing:)LOLOl out whit his arms asked ,Who me!!!|pg|| pc|d5|nt|hedyg: lead?|pg|| pc|d2|nt|sommer: @H4 for me|pg|| nt|hedyg: will get a trump promotion here|pg|| pc|dT|nt|stewball: or not|pg|| nt|aldek: Pazur wypuscil te cztery piki na drugim stole|pg|| nt|ahh: this is my kind of contract Jim proof |pg|| nt|bouncer: 9tricks|pg|| nt|sten: he might win this contract|pg|| nt|sten: what did the judge say?|pg|| nt|bouncer: yes,look that way|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|nt|stewball: lots of great spots in that W hand,,maybe E is tiptop max so W didnt even try|pg|| nt|minnie lee: a slam on 2 finesses? never great|pg|| pc|d4|nt|hedyg: unlikely to play 7@H|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: actually N now ordered the 10 of @Hs from the table and W followed low|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|liujing: ¿´ÀîÀÏʦÄÜ·ñ´ò³ÉÁË|pg|| nt|liujing: ¿ªÊÒһֱû¶ÒÏÖ @CA ×îºó¶ÒÏÖ²»µ½ÁË|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|sten: or TD|pg|| pc|dK|nt|hedyg: oh noooooooo|pg|| nt|hedyg: E played K?|pg|| nt|kalliste: en salle ouverte, Grosset a fait une tentative de manche à 3@h que le partenaire a refusé avec un jeu minimum et deux pts slmt dans les couleurs rouges|pg|| pc|s8|nt|onebid: but they just missed one with 12 tops|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|garden2005: mo¿an 4@h poprzedziænp. rebidem @c... a dopiero potem 4@h, uk³ad wistowy by³ na oczywisty wist @c ale w innych przypadkach takie zagranie odnosi pozytywny skutek|pg|| nt|bouncer: 8|pg|| nt|bouncer: if @D back|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bouncer: but he asked for @C|pg|| nt|ahh: can play @d then 4th @S stops overtrick|pg|| nt|bouncer: He ask me:) and i say maybe littel time they haved use.We won the match 23-7 i think'|pg|| nt|sten: well done by decl|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|minnie lee: it's a question of statistics...one can get lucky|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|minnie lee: can only play @c to not give anything away|pg|| nt|mgchat: a juste raison, il semble|pg|| nt|kalliste: a le choix de jouer A@d, D@d et @d en lob ou @d la dame et atout|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|onebid: Roald Ramer points out that from East, statistics favor it|pg|| nt|garden2005: stara szko³a np. Jurka Zaremby|pg|| nt|liujing: ÏÖÔڰѽ«ÅƵ÷ÁË£¬¶¥¸ö @H ¾Í¹»ÁË|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ahh: reverse attitude signals ?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|sommer: against preference contrackts it's often good to lead a trump ..so here (too) I would lead @h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: @D was fine, K@H wasnt|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|sten: sorry|pg|| nt|kalliste: en bon joueur de tennis il choisit la première option:)|pg|| nt|mgchat: ca c rigolo|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|minnie lee: discard a @d|pg|| pc|h2|nt|minnie lee: ooooooo|pg|| nt|onebid: we can learn a lot from watching Helgemo play his cards - watch the spots|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kalliste: 1 imp|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|sten: down now|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|sten: after playing hearts in trick 2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ7HK762DAKT8CQ53,SAKT98HT94D94CT94,S53HAJ8DJ653CK762,SJ642HQ53DQ72CAJ8|sv|n|nt|frankaus: no real advantage what ever your agreement as long as A ask for one , and K ask for the other|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 22 vs 18 HCP kinda partscore battle|pg|| nt|Gerben42: not always...|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1NT 3NT you lead?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: next chance for 3N|pg|| nt|rmac: better stratedy by the isirh is to play tight bridge wo hoping for miracles|pg|| nt|westjava: operator..?|pg|| nt|westjava: K@C from prananta..?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mcphee: poor N/S getting some hard decision hands|pg|| nt|rmac: irish|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 6@D er en god kontrakt|pg|| mb|1D|nt|frankaus: another 11 in @S |pg|| nt|sybarra: will W let them play 4, or push them to 5?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10@c|pg|| nt|kskov: blir no vanskelig å melde|pg|| nt|kotstak: 6@h gia B/N|pg|| mb|2S|nt|sten: n/s do not play 2/1|pg|| nt|kskov: nok|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det tror jeg også|pg|| nt|kskov: det dør nok ut i 3NT|pg|| mb|3D|nt|sybarra: note on bd. 1 3 nt played in the other room |pg|| nt|frankaus: minor save will earn a few imps but is it really value?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Our next match will feature Estonia and Sweden, in about 55 minutes|pg|| nt|rmac: only 37 down, not 137|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I much prefer 1NT over Dbl|pg|| nt|aupillon: at the other table they played 3NT. Because they are on the beach, bronzing|pg|| mb|3S|nt|frankaus: save does not look attractive to E|pg|| nt|rmac: and i much prefer 2d|pg|| nt|geot: Still a danger of getting to high here for N/S after the light opening bid. Most players open on such a hand though|pg|| nt|westjava: strong opening from west|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: have no reason to lead @s nor to lead for my weak pd|pg|| nt|Gerben42: now @S have been bid, 3NT certain to go down now|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have 3 entries to my hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: ah thats different|pg|| nt|geot: good pass by S|pg|| nt|sten: expecting a pass now on 2h|pg|| nt|geot: ja, etter 2H åpningen er det vanskelig, og i alle fall når han hoppet til 3N. Som vel er ganske normal melding|pg|| nt|stoffers: det som er med onkel wirkola (hegrand), er at det er LITT vanskelig å vite hva han har....|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: 3@H a bit skinny|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hegrand's hånd er måske for god til en direkte 3NT. Hvad med dobler først fulgt af 3NT?|pg|| nt|kskov: synest Hegrand har for mye her for å hoppe til 3NT. 23 hp.|pg|| nt|cindy: S has no bid there Q of spades is worthless|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: they dont play that one|pg|| nt|rmac: ah|pg|| nt|kotstak: sxetika efkolo symbolaio|pg|| nt|westjava: slam here|pg|| pc|d5|nt|mcphee: would be nice if N/S had some sort of invite mthods|pg|| nt|geot: E/W will play ok on diamonds, but will go down. Maybe Smith bid 3H|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rmac: hi kibs|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Ralph McNeal|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Men Wirkola hopper altid, ikke sant? :)|pg|| nt|kskov: men det blir nok vanskelig uansett|pg|| nt|stoffers: Regelen er at: når onkel hopper skal han spille det, det er vel de eneste systemavtalene de har!|pg|| nt|geot: hvis han dobler hopper vel øst til 3S|pg|| nt|westjava: 6@H made by S|pg|| nt|westjava: try to go,denny..?|pg|| nt|westjava: 5-4 fit on ur @D|pg|| nt|aupillon: I mean : You play 4 hearts instead of 6 or 7. Now you play 7 clubs instead 6. Are the Norwegian nerves as tight ? In france or italy, 47 infarctus on these 2 boards !|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mcphee: and it seems they do|pg|| nt|Gerben42: wow, good decision there|pg|| nt|Gerben42: very unusual in Europe to play a W2 in @D|pg|| nt|Gerben42: some play 2@C = W2 @D or strong|pg|| nt|garden2005: G-S licytuj¹ naturalnie po 2@d|pg|| nt|kotstak: kai efkola agorazomeno|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|sybarra: @S being 3/0 just a small pain |pg|| nt|rmac: tx roland|pg|| nt|geot: så 3NT|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@d sztuczny GF|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcphee: 2@C a relay to 2@D so they can show this sort of hand|pg|| nt|geot: Tromsø picking up some imps, so it looks like a soccer match, 3-0|pg|| nt|sten: starting with a trumph|pg|| nt|tomek: odwrotki jeszcze sie nie nauczyli:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: alla an paei gia 13 mpazes tha exei problhma|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mcphee: my bet is this shows poorish trumps|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s: that will teach you to overcall with nothing!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Irish South opened THREE @D|pg|| pc|s5|nt|frankaus: if W can make only 1 bid then should it be 5NT?|pg|| nt|kotstak: giati oi pikes kakostekoun |pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk5: and welcome to Rob Brown|pg|| nt|geot: that solved the diamonds for him, still there are five losers|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ybob: not sure , 2@C any CB, 2@D = no 3@H |pg|| nt|westjava: 32 total hcp...the same contarct in OR|pg|| pc|c6|nt|mcphee: uh oh|pg|| nt|ybob: this is french style i think|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|westjava: passive lead from east|pg|| nt|westjava: good spot|pg|| pc|c8|nt|mcphee: that is going to cost a bit of timing|pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour a tous et bon 1er Mai|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|rmac: hi rob|pg|| nt|kamyk: wszystko ju¿ by³o - tak licytowa³o siê w systemie Trybu³y ju¿ 40 lat temu|pg|| nt|kamyk: odwrotka to dobry wynalazek, ale nie z odpowiedziami 4-4,5-5,6-6|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I was busy to describe how 6 @c makeable..meanwhile they were reached a grand..so obviously no way out :(|pg|| pc|h2|nt|mcphee: difficult choice for a lead |pg|| pc|h4|nt|ybob: 3@H by N defeat @C lead , 3NT cold with @S lead|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Ralph|pg|| nt|chmitty: bjr et bon muguet :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: HVis Harr hopper til 3NT, er 3NT for lidt|pg|| nt|Walddk4: til 3@S mener jeg|pg|| nt|geot: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Da må man i hvert fald melde 4NT kvantitativt|pg|| nt|geot: Han heter jo Trond Tregrand (egentlig:))|pg|| nt|Walddk4: hehe|pg|| nt|kotstak: -1|pg|| nt|kotstak: se kathe periptwsh|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|mcphee: i hate the J4th lead so much I likely would choose to@D|pg|| nt|westjava: ten tricks: 4@C,3@H,1@D,2@S,thats all|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|Gerben42: still would be nice to play with partner not against :)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tomek: Kolejny zysk, na drugim stole chyba kolejne male nieporozumienie|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|h_karluk: declarer lost tempo|pg|| pc|hK|nt|mgchat: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|vugraph117: hegrand insiting on keeping @d7 in the table.. harr saying it s gonna be an expensive night|pg|| nt|kotstak: den tha mporesei na kopsei pika ston mor o extelesths prin kopsoun oi amynomenoi|pg|| pc|h9|nt|h_karluk: regained|pg|| nt|chmitty: il faut deviner maintenant|pg|| nt|chmitty: et il n'y a pas vraiment de motif pour trouver !|pg|| nt|hedyg: N is endplayed|pg|| nt|Gerben42: can play @S|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes he can but doesnt want to :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|geot: brb|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Han får ikke sidste stik på @D7|pg|| nt|stoffers: dukke en spar rundt?|pg|| nt|kskov: måtte dukke @h for å klare det|pg|| nt|vugraph117: hagrand get s his beer|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|h_karluk: maybe North would overtake and switch @c|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but wants to play something else even less|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|mcphee: only need to unblock our @H and lead a @C up, hard luck for E/w here|pg|| nt|chmitty: le choix est de jouer @h pour le 10 directement ... boum|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4@H tricks still to lose|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|chmitty: ou bien de jouer la dame de @h de la main qui oblige Sud à prendre et ensuite de monter un squeeze majeur sur Sud|pg|| nt|kamyk: jaka jest najlepsza wersja odwrotki? - jest chyba z dziesiêæ "najlepszych":)|pg|| nt|garden2005: moja:)|pg|| mc|8|nt|chmitty: mais il y a d'autres mauvais cas|pg|| nt|kotstak: oute h empas pika sonei thn katastash|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SA5HT98DJ5CQJ9876,SHAQJ532DK8642CA5,SQJ9842HD73CKT432,SKT763HK764DAQT9C|sv|e|nt|sommer: agree, but still makeable with hard work|pg|| nt|hedyg: harder:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: nope,overruled i think:)|pg|| nt|kalliste: une donne mouvementée surement|pg|| nt|mgchat: cette donne devrait creer du mouvement|pg|| mb|1S|nt|sommer: much:)|pg|| nt|mgchat: steph = copieur lol|pg|| nt|kalliste: j'ai dit avant:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: 1 or 2 @H opener ?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahh: i would open 1 |pg|| nt|bouncer: my style 1@H|pg|| nt|tmice: 3NT E/W.......|pg|| nt|ahh: @S suit too good to preempt with 2@H|pg|| nt|mgchat: c malheureusement exact|pg|| nt|kalliste: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: ..as expected, Germany gained 9 imps on the 4@S-1 in b30|pg|| nt|hedyg: cant have everything, @ss come in nicely, Q@H offside|pg|| mb|4C|nt|sten: mised that trick ... was talking about going up with the club King|pg|| mb|p|nt|liujing: 1@S? ²»ÊÇ½ÐµÄ 1@H?|pg|| mb|5S!|an|Exclution|nt|bouncer: they used shortsuit game try in OR|pg|| nt|bouncer: maybe he bid 2nt here|pg|| nt|bouncer: will|pg|| nt|mgchat: 1@s ne serait pas forcing en Nord ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: swap @S and a minor and would not object to 2@H in second seat|pg|| mb|6D|nt|kalliste: je prefere 1@s plutôt que 2@c et fité @h par la suite, le partenaire pouvant mieux juger|pg|| nt|kalliste: fiter|pg|| nt|kalliste: oui forcing|pg|| nt|mgchat: moi aussi, paérfois lezs doubles fits apportant des elements de decision|pg|| nt|kalliste: même si ca impose le palier de trois|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: well, 4@H was quite a bid here!|pg|| nt|bouncer: agree|pg|| nt|ahh: hate 4@S bid |pg|| mb|7H|nt|hedyg: 2@D multi|pg|| nt|minnie lee: I would have led the @c7|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome to jon sveindal from norway|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|tmice: yes me to..|pg|| nt|ahh: too unilateral |pg|| nt|bouncer: yup,|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@H relay, 3@H transfer|pg|| nt|bouncer: well good start:)|pg|| nt|ahh: lot of timber fell at trick 1|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|sommer: 2NT, 19-20 it seems|pg|| nt|stewball: hey Jon|pg|| nt|aldek: w otwarte karty mozna tutaj koncowke wygrac|pg|| nt|mgchat: palier parfait|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sten: no good slam|pg|| nt|bouncer: nope|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 20/21 with upgrade:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: duck a @S and play the @S for 3-3|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jbgood: may take nine if N ducks hearts two times|pg|| nt|vugraph117: A Roland slam? :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|sten: well he isn't here now so he can't defend himself|pg|| pc|s2|nt|garden2005: le¿enie gotowe, tylko bez ilu?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|sommer: yes, the 10's are good enough for that|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|bouncer: need @S 3-3 win |pg|| mc|13|nt|kalliste: la dame@d a le bon gout d'être deplacée|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SA5HT98DJ5CQJ9876,SHAQJ532DK8642CA5,SQJ9842HD73CKT432,SKT763HK764DAQT9C|sv|e|nt|sybarra: -3 or 4 frank in 6 @D?|pg|| nt|mariner1: seems a close match of only 1 imp|pg|| nt|rmac: not good breaking hand|pg|| nt|h_karluk: bloody board at first sight|pg|| nt|vugraph35: discussion at the table... but I don't understand anything :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: Ah un peu de bagarre en perspective|pg|| nt|hedyg: got away cheap|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the board is still bound to be good for Germany|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4 @s|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Wladow might do better than -2 after that openig|pg|| nt|westjava: 3@S|pg|| nt|westjava: tied score now|pg|| nt|garden2005: sprzed lat 12tu|pg|| nt|westjava: well done "bang" mun|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mariner1: nothing plays well eithe way here|pg|| nt|drdepp: les mains NS presentent des choi qui revelent la philosophie du joueur. certains (hors de la France, ca va sans dire) qui essayeraient 3T comme donneur. mais dans le monde entier ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: il y a beaucoup d'adherents d'une surenchere de 3P en S|pg|| nt|hedyg: should be|pg|| nt|westjava: 4@H or 4@S NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: wow|pg|| nt|chmitty: si tout le monde fait son boulot NS doivent aller jusqu'au palier de 6 ...|pg|| nt|westjava: they play 16 boards|pg|| mb|2H|nt|sybarra: I think maybe one too many?|pg|| nt|frankaus: defending with 0166 NV is a unpopular view but 5NT may push them to a making slam|pg|| nt|mcphee: 2@S definetly not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|rmac: better to defend|pg|| nt|h_karluk: seems a flat board|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: Looks like a normal 3N E/W, will make easily. Diamonds are friendly|pg|| nt|aupillon: Good pre-emptive at ANY level in clubs|pg|| nt|cindy: now this is a good grand|pg|| nt|aupillon: 7 hearts . hard to bid 8 clubs :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 3 and 4 @d i suppose|pg|| mb|4C|nt|mariner1: I would probably opened S 2@d if available,, I don't think the French have that though|pg|| nt|rmac: east did well not to stretch to bid|pg|| nt|sten: should be an easy 3NT here|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: between NS? they are brothers:) North is elder|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes, between N/S|pg|| nt|westjava: pre empt by denny|pg|| nt|cindy: i like a nice straightforward 3H bid by E|pg|| nt|cindy: set trumps and cue from there|pg|| mb|4N|nt|rmac: unlucky french|pg|| nt|Gerben42: see, 1@S alerted as "could be 3" |pg|| nt|sten: first real swing in the match|pg|| nt|geot: The so called Ekrens 2D was not a success in OR on board 4, the normal 4H going down.|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hvor hoppe Hegrand nu hen?|pg|| nt|stoffers: haha|pg|| mb|p|nt|westjava: but no problem|pg|| nt|westjava: normal lead|pg|| nt|cindy: 4C took up too much room|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i vote for natural sequence here - to me i am obliged to tell what i have in my collection..so 3 and 4 @d is on my methods|pg|| nt|cindy: now rkc does no good|pg|| nt|aupillon: absolutely. Curious thing but the strong jumps are more and more forgotten these days because of the small frequency.|pg|| mb|6C!|an|2+void in c|mb|p|nt|h_karluk: i guess the issue--most probably South started discussion..why not overtook @d and switched @c :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d relay|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|hedyg: seems to be showing a minimum hand|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@HXX is close|pg|| nt|h_karluk: brown sticker ?|pg|| nt|geot: E/W ended in 2S x going 500 , on a 4-3 split|pg|| nt|geot: 12 to Tromsø, up by 15 now|pg|| nt|Walddk4: OK, til 6@C|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er det ikke det 3@CX er?|pg|| nt|stoffers: hehe..vel, sitter fint for spillefører her..blir ca 8-9 stikk dette vel?|pg|| nt|westjava: 20-20 hcp|pg|| nt|kotstak: den exoun kalo symbolaio oi E/W |pg|| nt|cindy: i dont like to muddy the water by bidding diamonds|pg|| mb|6H|nt|ritong: dommage|pg|| nt|geot: Declarer has a problem here, he dont know diamonds are 3-3|pg|| nt|stoffers: jeg sier 8|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Ja, Harr har ingen defensiv hånd|pg|| nt|westjava: no @S partner..?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: this one will not scramble home|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: 2d being an intermediate 2 bid?|pg|| nt|ritong: ç eut été le commentaire de la semaine, sinon bonjour pierre|pg|| nt|cindy: prefer to tell my partner we have a heart fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: a bit to do here, in a common contract |pg|| nt|vugraph35: 2@D 11+ without 4c M|pg|| nt|chmitty: Je trouve Nord pas très combatif sur ce coup là|pg|| nt|chmitty: Salut HEnri|pg|| nt|mgchat: surtout avec une vulnerabilité favorable|pg|| nt|chmitty: mettez l'as de @c en Sud au lieu du Roi et il FAIT le chelem .. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: would make I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: last bd i only see 6 tricks in EW........|pg|| nt|hedyg: dont see where they got another|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes should have been -2, dont know why not|pg|| nt|hedyg: should be -2|pg|| nt|vugraph35: don't know... was claimed for one down|pg|| nt|geot: If he cash them from top there is no quick entry if he has to establish the suit|pg|| nt|sten: also that the clubs are 6-1|pg|| nt|geot: yes, but he is lacking tricks, so he will try diamonds from top, I think|pg|| nt|geot: with only four diamond tricks it wud have been a long way to 9|pg|| nt|geot: that is just what he now is thinking about....if he have needed only four diamond tricks he could have played a low diamond from dummy,keeping communication to West's hand|pg|| nt|geot: I am sorry frds, but need to move from this place to another now...so will be away for about ten minutes|pg|| nt|geot: Sten holds the fort:)|pg|| nt|sten: thanx GeO|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Declarer still thinking|pg|| nt|aupillon: Sorry to say that but the Splinter with a void is no as good|pg|| nt|cindy: partner will never believe you have a primary heart fit if you bid diamonds first|pg|| nt|h_karluk: unless i tell how come we will know we have 8+ side suit strength--is not also tells shape|pg|| nt|aupillon: Better would have been 3 diamonds. 7 now|pg|| nt|h_karluk: over 4 d i think i have chance to tell h|pg|| nt|cindy: of course but partner will never believe you have Kxxx|pg|| nt|cindy: sounds like a cue bid then|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mcphee: 3N on the other hand had a chance|pg|| nt|vugraph35: can't tell ou more... I don't understand Turkey :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok, no @H lead but then what?|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok Merle, not your fault:)|pg|| nt|stoffers: de har vel en regel til; når onkel dobler melder du ikek mere!|pg|| nt|westjava: draw trump and backward finess of @S|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|Gerben42: 2@D = GF, 3+@S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@H = 7 - 10, 4@S|pg|| nt|h_karluk: even carry some relay methods of highly unusual "red sticker"|pg|| nt|Gerben42: no... was papa mama Polish @C here|pg|| nt|kotstak: Me kalh amyna - 1|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|mariner1: no I play it 6-11 old school and P is a passed hand so this fits|pg|| nt|hedyg: small @C?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @h lead is logical, dummy has the strong @H |pg|| nt|hedyg: will play @d|pg|| nt|westjava: cash his top@D|pg|| pc|hA|nt|h_karluk: but not a "green sticker" :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: just with alerting the possible babypsyche that Hanlon made on 18|pg|| nt|westjava: need entry to dummy|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h4|nt|h_karluk: well not a big deal :) 1 IMP|pg|| nt|aupillon: the DOUBLE fit is essential in calling Grand Slams. If we cannot show this, we are no good. Sorry about this, but's true|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|hedyg: he sees 8 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: needs 1 more|pg|| nt|westjava: why not take over by Ace...then J@D for @C|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ritong: en l occurence lz defense optimum contre 6@d faisait chuter de deux, je crois, avec la coupe a @c|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kotstak: kamia tyxh pleon|pg|| pc|hK|nt|vugraph35: (hesitating for getting coffee and water at the table :)|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|h_karluk: still bloody board as i noticed at first sight|pg|| nt|h_karluk: obviously wld pull @c A after think a lot|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i can guarantee 2 mins|pg|| nt|Gerben42: there it is |pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lets find some more|pg|| nt|Gerben42: many more possible, @CJ and 4th @D|pg|| nt|stoffers: må vel tape 1@h og 2@c, om han ikek får GOD hjelp|pg|| nt|westjava: yup|pg|| pc|h7|nt|kskov: Tromsø bomma forsvaret mot 4@s i åpent, dermed har Vikersund tatt teten|pg|| nt|westjava: so far so good|pg|| nt|westjava: other table: north sulawesi vs south sulawesi|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|Gerben42: i dont like "green sticker" systems much|pg|| nt|cindy: they can play in 7D just as easily|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| mc|13|nt|rmac: too strong imo lot of playing potential|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it was the point i tried to notice|pg|| nt|cindy: your auction would lead to 7D but thats just as good|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAQ9HJ2DKT94CT952,S72HA64DA5CAKJ743,ST85HQ53DJ87632CQ,SKJ643HKT987DQC86|sv|b|nt|jbgood: by Judy|pg|| nt|minnie lee: bye Judy|pg|| nt|bouncer: i think the J of @C was the only card to give him 4@S|pg|| nt|ahh: looks like it |pg|| nt|ahh: missed chance as 3nt was going to make |pg|| nt|bouncer: y|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahh: more 4 @S this time but this will be a challenge|pg|| nt|tmice: they might try 3NT this time then:):)|pg|| nt|bouncer: wow ,big score in OR|pg|| mb|1N|nt|minnie lee: Hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: As Terje Aa is in the open room we will never get any live comparisons......|pg|| nt|minnie lee: didn'r "see" yu Anders, hi there:)|pg|| nt|aldek: ladny szlemik karowy |pg|| nt|sten: what a board in the open room!!|pg|| mb|2D|nt|sommer: 3NT W is possible on @Slead|pg|| nt|hedyg: again?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@H relay|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: Wladow now corrected the system in NT 18/19;)|pg|| nt|aldek: ciekawy problem dla Skrzypczaka|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|hedyg: lol ok|pg|| nt|ahh: obvious lead directing overcall |pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: stop in 3@S maybe|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| mb|3N|nt|sommer: well well...this can't be upgraded to 20|pg|| nt|aldek: dobrze rozwiazal, moim zdaniem|pg|| nt|aldek: na wysosci 5-ciu nie ma znaczenia w co sie gra, kiery czy kara|pg|| nt|bouncer: o no:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|aldek: teraz musi sobie wyobrazic single kier u partnera|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: west likes the sound of 4@S :)|pg|| mb|4H|nt|garden2005: "2BA = fit @s, limit or GF bez ³adnych r¹k" - t³umaczenie na kartce|pg|| nt|ahh: played by east 4@S better on @H lead |pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: @H lead would kill dummy|pg|| nt|hedyg: but he will lead @s|pg|| nt|jbgood: this 3 d bid is called Okunef?|pg|| nt|stewball: standard lead of an Ace against such an aution...|pg|| nt|aldek: brawo|pg|| nt|garden2005: poszed³ jak po swoje|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: yes, @Slead is normal, but is that enough?|pg|| nt|hedyg: still down|pg|| nt|sommer: looks like -1 or 2 still|pg|| nt|ahh: on the lie of course |pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: i dont think there was a way to play 3@d in their system|pg|| nt|bouncer: would u X neg on those cards. u have Qx in @H|pg|| nt|tmice: Running score: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| nt|ahh: may as well play @H back and let defence open a suit |pg|| nt|ahh: on face of it need to avoid @S loser and get lucky in minors to make |pg|| nt|bouncer: y,but this look heavy,when not Q held|pg|| nt|kalliste: un stayman tentant, malgré les 7 pts|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|sommer: his chance is ducking first @S and get more @S to A|pg|| nt|sommer: ..I think...|pg|| nt|hedyg: it was pass over 2NT or 3NT|pg|| nt|kalliste: l'espoir de decouvrir un fit @h |pg|| nt|mgchat: qui va sans doute couter cher|pg|| nt|kalliste: le flanc doit être attentif |pg|| pc|c6|nt|hedyg: no reason to switch!|pg|| nt|sommer: ...but still seems impossible|pg|| nt|jbgood: indeed - very important to remember|pg|| pc|c5|nt|sten: Hegrand doubled 4d and Harr didn't lead diamonds|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|nt|garden2005: obowi¹zuje t³umaczenie odzywek sztucznych po obu stronach deski wy³¹cznie na piœmie|pg|| nt|garden2005: dowody rzeczowe:)|pg|| nt|garden2005: w przypadku sporu|pg|| nt|bouncer: well now are they headed for 6@C|pg|| nt|sten: not|pg|| nt|bouncer: and dont think jørgen is leading a @D|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahh: will the Q play work ?|pg|| nt|mgchat: je trouve cette enchere un tantinet exagérée, surtout lorsque les SA deviennent de plus en plus atypique|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahh: would if dec had the 9|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: no 4th best ag such a sequence if you have an ace..|pg|| nt|bouncer: no Terje must X|pg|| nt|sten: maybe after a double now ..|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Now he is|pg|| nt|mgchat: prevision = -7|pg|| pc|c9|nt|bouncer: :)|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bouncer: taking time:)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sT|nt|bouncer: hm,a push now:)|pg|| nt|sten: probably|pg|| pc|s3|nt|sten: a push board then|pg|| pc|s9|nt|bouncer: not easy |pg|| nt|sten: certainly not|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Jørgen sais he didnt see the "X"...shows at least A or K|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|nt|Vugraph34: Elinescu said after Wladow winning the 2nd @S-trick: you always have to switch when he ducks:)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ahh: good duck|pg|| nt|tmice: well Per, Nils, did arrive in 3@c on board 4, not 6:) |pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|bouncer: small @D now|pg|| pc|d5|nt|sommer: -2 and 5 imps to Netherland|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: lol not this time|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: last board of this match|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAQ9HJ2DKT94CT952,S72HA64DA5CAKJ743,ST85HQ53DJ87632CQ,SKJ643HKT987DQC86|sv|b|nt|sybarra: oh, so we had a revoke |pg|| nt|sybarra: by declarer |pg|| nt|sybarra: TBR=touney bridge rules I guess |pg|| nt|ybob: i think Q @H denies J here|pg|| nt|mcphee: i agree with that|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: very big fght at the table|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: fight|pg|| nt|drdepp: s'il hesite et reflechit au deuxieme tour, c-a-d APRES l'enchere de Ouest qui lui pose un probleme, il se peut fort que Ouest se trouve en diffulcte au niveau d'ethique a son ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: prochain tour.|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Very humorous at the table now, :)|pg|| nt|westjava: very good result|pg|| nt|kotstak: agria dianomh|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to John Hornibrook from Australia|pg|| nt|johnnybear: hi all, thanks Roland|pg|| nt|westjava: six nt for west java in OR,board 5|pg|| nt|h_karluk: brb|pg|| nt|h_karluk: time to inject insuline:(|pg|| nt|cindy: not quite i guess because with 10 hearts a heart ruff more likely|pg|| nt|aupillon: My sequence : 1 spade- 2 hearts- 3 hearts (ultra forcing) 4 diamonds , etc|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: not a good sign|pg|| mb|1C!|an|11-13nt or (16)17+|nt|ybob: i open 2@S with W|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the penultimate board here|pg|| nt|westjava: now,25 vs 15 hcp |pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: let me remind you that E is our fellow commentator David Greenwood|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the frisky 3@H overcall on 11 didnt get doubled but still cost 11 IMPs when the other table played 4@S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@D = careful|pg|| nt|westjava: 2@C by taufik,@C + upper|pg|| nt|westjava: hi John,nice to have you here :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rmac: i think passing 2d is much too timid|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph35: the ruling can be other than you know it from tournaments in the past :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I have to go ... safe to say congratulations to team Germany! thanks all|pg|| nt|westjava: tks Roland:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: let's paly 4 hearts to calm nerves a bit|pg|| nt|aupillon: play|pg|| mb|2C|nt|hedyg: will this keep them out of slam?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html|pg|| nt|Walddk1: np|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: other room over reached on bd. 3 |pg|| nt|h_karluk: today BBO Vugraph panelists are highly busy--i started at 5.20 a..took a break 2.30p..same time i saw 9 live table transactatons.|pg|| nt|rmac: tx see you|pg|| nt|h_karluk: thanks Gerben|pg|| nt|vugraph35: bye!|pg|| nt|westjava: ohh sry,1@S pening by S|pg|| nt|westjava: I dont see:)|pg|| mb|3H|nt|hedyg: not any more......|pg|| nt|johnnybear: hi, so for the late comers, E-W playing a precision-type system?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: wow thay lepy all the way to 1@h well done|pg|| nt|rmac: what is north ashamed of?|pg|| nt|mariner1: lept|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|sybarra: will suggest they not try 3 nt here |pg|| nt|sten: another 3NT here|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@h najni¿szekarta od 11+, a wszystkie inne rebidy od 2@s do 4@s ze strefy 7-10 (ustawienie znaczeñ dowolne wed³ug ¿yczeñ) |pg|| nt|kotstak: 4 pikes par ola afta gia E/W|pg|| nt|westjava: yes John,both of them|pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: win now|pg|| nt|ybob: with only @C lead win |pg|| nt|mcphee: i suppose he must run this|pg|| nt|sybarra: I like lepy |pg|| nt|mariner1: they even|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Shirley|pg|| nt|rmac: seems a good solid opener to me|pg|| nt|mjc12: 1@h est forcing étrange|pg|| nt|drdepp: apres une pause assez nette et puis 2K, avec certaines mains qui produisent neuf levees a SA Ouest pourrait bien sentir des contraintes. soit il passe, soit les adversaires ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: appelent la surete|pg|| nt|chmitty: Il serait bien que Sud duque l'entame|pg|| nt|westjava: should be @H lead...|pg|| nt|garden2005: zachowuje przestrzeñ dla strefy szlemowej, ot ca³y sukces|pg|| nt|tomek: Tym razem Bogus rozpoczal licytacje z 10 PC, wybijajac przeciwnikow z wychodzacych 3ba|pg|| nt|johnnybear: seems unusual to lead the @sQ here|pg|| nt|westjava: prec basic with some modification,of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: le bon cas c'est celui de l'espèce|pg|| nt|h_karluk: *transactions|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Og de gik ned i 6NT på spil 5|pg|| pc|dT|nt|frankaus: nice auction to par spot|pg|| nt|vugraph35: if they get diamond lead, better to play A of spades or finesse? |pg|| nt|vugraph35: wow, they get @D lead|pg|| nt|Gerben42: NS have huge hands and know it|pg|| nt|hedyg: 4 keycards in @H|pg|| nt|Gerben42: except that @S is rump|pg|| nt|hedyg: are you sure? i am not|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes, sure|pg|| nt|sten: with AK of hearts right it should be ok |pg|| nt|westjava: 6@D, and three Aces|pg|| nt|aupillon: he'll never dare ...|pg|| nt|cindy: would be a practice finesse|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Skim is asking about leading methods :)|pg|| nt|cindy: no purpose|pg|| nt|aupillon: in pairs I call that mandatory|pg|| pc|dA|nt|vugraph35: now declarer has to guess right in @S if to finesse or not|pg|| nt|h_karluk: they do not needed drury or reverse drury|pg|| nt|chmitty: le mauvais c'est si sud a l'as de @c sec|pg|| nt|chmitty: ouest pardon|pg|| nt|chmitty: et défausse ses @h sur les @c en montant au roi de @s|pg|| nt|johnnybear: even without partner's overcall, there are grounds for leading a heart, considering the entry-less south hand|pg|| nt|aupillon: by principle|pg|| pc|d8|nt|Walddk4: Den var oplagt med singleton @SK i Nord|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: dyskolo symbolaio|pg|| nt|johnnybear: given partner's call vulnerable two-level call, I would have thought it would have been clear|pg|| nt|cindy: nothing to gain|pg|| pc|h4|nt|h_karluk: seems flat board |pg|| nt|drdepp: mais si Est planifie sa deuxieme enchere deja au premier tour d'encheres, il pourra au deuxieme tour glisser son 2K au rhythme qu'il faut|pg|| nt|hedyg: so 5@d asks for Q@s and 5@s denies|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes, back to trump denies the Q|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe thinking about 4-1 trump division after preempt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but should not worry too much|pg|| nt|hedyg: S could have bid 3NT over 3@d|pg|| nt|hedyg: it was an option for sure|pg|| nt|Gerben42: might bid 5NT choice of slams, keep open 6@C in case Smirnov has the @C variation|pg|| nt|sten: even an overtrick|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|hedyg: well, @cs are out now|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Men Smith spillede 10'en fra hånden!??|pg|| nt|stoffers: han spilte T@s..|pg|| nt|aupillon: enerving opps :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|rmac: hi shirley, hi michael|pg|| nt|ritong: il a passé d entrée|pg|| nt|westjava: any lead:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: den mporei na erthei sto xeri o extelestis opote mallon -1|pg|| nt|cindy: opps would think he had lost his mind|pg|| nt|cindy: a spade looked right at trick two|pg|| nt|cindy: instead of a trump|pg|| nt|h_karluk: back, seems traditions changed..in good old days we exchanged CC b4 tuff team matches|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ybob: is good duck to play later for @H 3/3 too|pg|| nt|Gerben42: dont know what 6@D is|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Germany won 7 on the hand with 2@S down here... 3N-2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 13 more here ... starting to get too much for Ireland|pg|| nt|hedyg: wonder what he is thinking|pg|| nt|Gerben42: me too, not much to do when opps have @SQ|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe 6NT|pg|| pc|h6|nt|rmac: hi henri|pg|| nt|stoffers: ja, så gjennom movie nå|pg|| nt|tomek: Chyba nalezalo polozyc dame, bo 10 teoretycznie nic nie daje|pg|| pc|h5|nt|h_karluk: too slow here |pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|ritong: hi there|pg|| nt|hedyg: knows nothing about Q@D|pg|| pc|c6|nt|frankaus: oooooppppppps|pg|| nt|sybarra: and down we go |pg|| nt|vugraph35: @C A now to get pds count in @C |pg|| nt|sybarra: spirit of convictions to continue, (counting I hope |pg|| nt|vugraph35: still does not know pd having 1 or 2 diamonds|pg|| nt|frankaus: -2 even possible|pg|| nt|vugraph35: -2? east can only ruff 1 time|pg|| nt|sybarra: cash k of hts, then diam. |pg|| nt|sybarra: and club |pg|| nt|vugraph35: ok, did not see @H K :) |pg|| nt|frankaus: oncne u lead @D u must follow throuh IMO|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I told them... but they won t play faster|pg|| nt|chmitty: là c'est cuit pour NS|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N isn't very happy!|pg|| pc|c5|nt|h_karluk: you are right Merle|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Tez and Zafer are "speedy gonzales" players :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: he should be!|pg|| pc|cA|nt|drdepp: veuillez excuser ces commentaires peu brefs, mais j'evite un style plus "telegraphique" dans un effort de ne pas me faire mecomprendre|pg|| nt|westjava: yes John,agree with you|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Henri|pg|| nt|aupillon: king of club and rest a while|pg|| nt|cindy: if N had stiff small club E would be going down now|pg|| pc|cK|nt|h_karluk: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|aupillon: voilà|pg|| nt|cindy: oops|pg|| nt|cindy: ruff|pg|| nt|aupillon: at the table I would have played like that, sorry|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|Walddk4: Det er aldrig rigtigt at spille 10'en|pg|| pc|c8|nt|hedyg: what did he want? 6NT?|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|mariner1: and Michel|pg|| nt|sten: Tromsø 18-12 in VP|pg|| nt|stoffers: jo, om den sitter xx foran og ikke blir dekt så..:)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: beating drums|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h9|nt|h_karluk: last positions|pg|| pc|d4|nt|sybarra: but W also has count on the spades|pg|| nt|hedyg: probably|pg|| nt|Gerben42: should not torture pd with 6@D bids I think|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes... he was asking for the @DQ|pg|| nt|rmac: making now|pg|| nt|stoffers: Hxx...|pg|| nt|kotstak: -2 mallon|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|ritong: le declarant devrait montrer son jeu|pg|| nt|westjava: wrong play in OR:)|pg|| nt|johnnybear: instructive hand in the bidding, I suppose. Once one knows there are long suits around, 22-23 points seems to be plenty for 3NT when the vul game premium is considered|pg|| nt|aupillon: now, we give 2 spades and tchao-tchao Mickey Mouse|pg|| nt|h_karluk: declarer let an enemy trump at large, we ll see result soon|pg|| nt|aupillon: it is curious his line, but never forget we see 52 cards|pg|| nt|cindy: he had it made at that point low club instead of king, ruff, heart to dummy |pg|| nt|aupillon: and Skimmeland only 26|pg|| nt|cindy: no|pg|| nt|cindy: he still had a club|pg|| nt|aupillon: one down|pg|| pc|s3|nt|hedyg: hmm|pg|| nt|hedyg: 6@s-6NT all the same|pg|| pc|s9|nt|sybarra: I dont think you can get them 2 frank |pg|| pc|s2|nt|aupillon: take the ace AA|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|hA|pc|d2|nt|geot: aldri er et farlig ord:) Roland|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Ja, med en modspilsfejl er det meste muligt|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Jeg taler om bridge|pg|| nt|geot: aldrig mener jeg|pg|| nt|kotstak: kalytero eitan na pexei karo anti thn Q@S |pg|| nt|aupillon: he wants more than 1 down, for sure|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det er aldrig rigtigt mod kompetente modstandere, der altid vil dække 10'en med Hxx|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|mcphee: yes|pg|| nt|rmac: n/s could still have game in a major|pg|| nt|sten: even 2 overtricks maybe|pg|| pc|d3|nt|mjc12: le roi @h s'impose|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c3|nt|mariner1: http://www.ffbridge.asso.fr/ Tournament Site|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAHJ975DA86CAK643,S965HQT6DKT4CT987,SQJT82HK8DQ953CJ2,SK743HA432DJ72CQ5|sv|o|nt|hedyg: ty Martin:) great job again!|pg|| nt|aldek: a teraz misfit na EW|pg|| nt|garden2005: niez³e lañsko|pg|| nt|garden2005: sprawdzimy odpornoœæ naszych Pañ na ciosy:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: "@H from W |pg|| nt|bouncer: 2|pg|| nt|ahh: 3nt easiest game for n/s|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Rognved said he thought his partner draw the wrong card|pg|| nt|sten: but it was Terje's lead against 6NT|pg|| nt|bouncer: yup|pg|| nt|kalliste: ligne de jeu possible, 4 tours de @c deux tours @d avec impasse et @s , et passer la bonne à @h en fin|pg|| nt|mgchat: CELLE CI AUSSI POURRAIT FAIRE UN ECART|pg|| nt|kalliste: avec roi@d placé evidement|pg|| nt|mgchat: Stephane, Noel c le 25 decembre|pg|| nt|kalliste: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: ty Povl:)|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: thx to you for filling the other box;)|pg|| nt|hedyg: Our appreciation to Deutscher Bridge-Verband (German Bridge Federation) for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph. Peter Eidt has been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: setting up a fine show|pg|| nt|bouncer: 3H now|pg|| nt|tmice: the "bad" 4@s had some value... 10 imps... B-6|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for their kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|sommer: tnx Hedy:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: i guess after this we will be showing the final|pg|| nt|bouncer: and 4@S from S|pg|| nt|kalliste: suis un optimiste:)|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jbgood: bid and made|pg|| nt|jbgood: Tøndel sh pass in a flach|pg|| nt|jbgood: flash even|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol,saw that|pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: as Trond against 6@H|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes, but Jørgen would X....knows partner had the A|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: ok thanx ... then it's another matter|pg|| nt|mgchat: et tu as bien raison|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|vugraph153: z rozpedu sclaimowalem lewe za duzo ale wyniku to nie zmienia|pg|| mb|p|nt|kalliste: il a esperé @s 4 4 et roi@h placé|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|bouncer: Agree on that.Hope they have that deal in Pau:)|pg|| nt|sten: lol|pg|| nt|bouncer: :)lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraph34: We are very sorry, but lost the connection unfortunately.|pg|| nt|kalliste: comme Malarme a limité sa main (passe d'entrée) pas d'ambiguité sur le contre de 2@h|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mgchat: c'etait budgeté|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: np!|pg|| nt|hedyg: avoid the @H lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: hard to find @D lead and @H return|pg|| nt|garden2005: "od 20 lat jest zerowa"... " na ciosy w³asn¹ piêœci¹"...."brak odpornoœci" - ujawniam privy|pg|| nt|bouncer: brb|pg|| nt|mgchat: entame = pas terrible|pg|| nt|kalliste: le roi@h pour rassurer le part sur sa teneur à l'atout:)|pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|nt|garden2005: reszta objêta ochron¹ danych osobowych, nie chcê wyl¹dowaæ w s¹dzie:)|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ahh: depends on the trump suit play |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: singleton trump unusual lead but his 3 kings not appealing|pg|| nt|vugraph153: wynik moznaby poprawic ale skasuje sie ladna licytacja Skrzypczaka, wiec zostawie|pg|| nt|garden2005: id¹ pod topór|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jbgood: no Cap F|pg|| nt|garden2005: Westra grzecznie tylko wypyta³|pg|| nt|bouncer: 1 off,is it|pg|| pc|cA|nt|aldek: Westra nie jest taki krwiozerczy|pg|| pc|c7|nt|garden2005: ospale wygl¹da|pg|| nt|ahh: with @C ruff impending not so routine |pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|dan_hohor: I just wonder why did't gierulsky accept 3NT when a total missfit is obvious |pg|| nt|garden2005: nie ma co wyrzuciæ, wszystko ma niedobre - trudny wybór:)|pg|| pc|cK|nt|garden2005: no ale @h kompletnie bez przysz³oœci|pg|| pc|c8|nt|aldek: 3 NT looked hopeless and 4@S could be a great game with a slightly different hand opposite|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hedyg: small= positive, 2@H= want @H|pg|| nt|bouncer: no,he need to play 4 rounds of @D|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|ahh: well he had the clues with the opener |pg|| pc|s8|nt|hedyg: confirming K@H|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|sten: 2 imps for Heimdal|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|hedyg: must play @D now|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@ds|pg|| nt|hedyg: disc J@H!|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back in ca 10 minutes|pg|| nt|hedyg: so dont go far!|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|hedyg: ace??|pg|| nt|bouncer: sloppy play|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh course! sry|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: in about 10 min we'll be back with the 1st session of the finals.|pg|| nt|hedyg: he knows K@H is in S|pg|| pc|sK|nt|hedyg: ty all! see you in 10 minutes!|pg|| nt|sybarra: yesssssssssssssss but not enough :(|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: thx all & bye for now.|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kalliste: un atout encore pour E|pg|| nt|mgchat: moins 2|pg|| nt|kalliste: chauvelot a un temps d avance|pg|| nt|kalliste: fallait couper dans le vide à @c, bien joué|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Walddk5: Sorry guys, but this room is with Polish commentary|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h2|nt|Walddk5: We have English in the open room|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|rimbus: pas beaucoup d'égalités dans ces matches de jeunes :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kalliste: bonjour Pierre|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d9|mc|7|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAHJ975DA86CAK643,S965HQT6DKT4CT987,SQJT82HK8DQ953CJ2,SK743HA432DJ72CQ5|sv|o|nt|mariner1: so interestingly NS played 7 in 2@H on 7 in Open|pg|| nt|rmac: cut the massive lead in half|pg|| nt|mariner1: N has a lot of @d|pg|| nt|rmac: 6n from south unbreakable|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I hope players at this table wld raise their tempo a bit|pg|| nt|chmitty: ca n'est pas le genre : à la 1, avec 7 de tête et pas la minuscule chance d'en faire 8, il a cartonné 1SA jusqu'au bout|pg|| nt|ritong: jai manqué ça:)|pg|| nt|vugraph35: he was afraid of W|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 38:0 this segment|pg|| nt|vugraph35: could have 5cards in @S|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board for now|pg|| nt|rmac: last tx kibs and tx to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possible|pg|| nt|westjava: maybe miss count of tricks...|pg|| nt|kotstak: Ena akoma exeretiko skor gia B/N|pg|| nt|aupillon: not nice when pard's will ask you " how come ?" at the nearest bar :(|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: and 6@d in S :)|pg|| nt|ritong: nice @d J, yes|pg|| nt|chmitty: ça use les adversaires je dois dire .. mais on s'use aussi du coup|pg|| nt|kotstak: to -2 |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 3@h asking for @h stopper|pg|| nt|mjc12: interrogation sur l'arret @h!|pg|| nt|rmac: dont like 3h which asks for a heart stop|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: the connection is very bad|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely final contract 5@d for EW|pg|| nt|westjava: now,22 vs 18 hcp|pg|| mb|1C|nt|h_karluk: ohh ..other room result appeared now|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Merle@H great job!|pg|| mb|p|nt|mjc12: tres bien jouée|pg|| nt|rmac: now 6nt?|pg|| nt|ritong: think 5@h|pg|| nt|kamyk: w otwartym S skontrowa³, a N tê kontrê utrzyma³!|pg|| nt|tomek: Celna kontra Kality w pokoju otwartym|pg|| mb|1S|nt|h_karluk: so another flat board|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I think so too...I'm tired and they are so slow!|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Gerben:)|pg|| nt|vugraph35: thank you all!|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: kibs suggesting 8 of @D at trick one |pg|| nt|mariner1: well a @h lead makes slam too|pg|| nt|aupillon: remark : when your teammates are called Helgemo and co, you can play in confidence|pg|| mb|2H|nt|frankaus: only -1 my bad|pg|| nt|chmitty: l'entame fait jouer quasiment à cartes ouvertes : on connait le roi de @c en Est donc tout le reste en Ouest à une dame près|pg|| nt|ritong: beaucoup de joueurs considerent, et a juste titre a mon avis, qu il est incorrect de ne pas tabler quand il est clair qu il ne peut rien se produire d inattendu|pg|| nt|hedyg: Our appreciation to Deutscher Bridge-Verband (German Bridge Federation) for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph. Peter Eidt has been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: setting up a fine show|pg|| nt|Gerben42: West to bid 2@H now|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be right back with the last segment!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the final segment will start in a few minutes|pg|| nt|hedyg: so dont go away!|pg|| nt|geot: ok du har rett, men alltid er også et farlig ord:)|pg|| nt|westjava: so far,the score so tied...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: With such defensive values against hearts, South must be disappointed the bidding has stopped so early|pg|| nt|westjava: 4 imp carry over for Jakarta|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: on last hand |pg|| nt|sybarra: still down 1 if takes sp finesse I see |pg|| nt|rmac: i really like south's 4nt|pg|| nt|mariner1: I did also|pg|| nt|chmitty: mon avis est le même et pour une bonne raison en général : il ne faut pas retarder l'apéro|pg|| mb|2N|nt|mariner1: N wimped out,, probably due to spade worry|pg|| nt|mjc12: now 6 make|pg|| nt|ritong: well, he politely answered his pard s question|pg|| nt|kotstak: kakh epilogh to stayman |pg|| nt|kotstak: kalytera eitan transfer|pg|| nt|vugraph165: east is thinking|pg|| nt|johnnybear: And liliek, how many boards are the teams playing?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: 5d looks sissy to me|pg|| nt|mjc12: 7|pg|| nt|drdepp: entame dame de trefle serait plus amusante|pg|| nt|ritong: ouais|pg|| mb|3N|nt|hedyg: this is slow room:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for their kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @S2 lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@H NF, trying to get back 40 imps now?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: some questions about the bidding at the table|pg|| nt|Gerben42: trying to get back IMPs is usually the best way to go more behind...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Q@s is correct on @s lead|pg|| nt|westjava: agressive 4@H from west|pg|| nt|westjava: 1@H,1@Cand...maybe 2@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: 3@h meaning " do you have a @h stopper?", 4nt means "yes honey"|pg|| nt|hedyg: i prefer 2NT to the 2@c bid in OR|pg|| nt|hedyg: N will be squeezed on @Hs but so will W|pg|| nt|Gerben42: basically needs @H 3 - 3 or @HJx|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: seen worse games|pg|| nt|kamyk: mozna siê na tê kontrê krzywiæ - punkty pod siln¹ rêk¹ - ale jak¿e trafna w tym przypadku|pg|| nt|kotstak: otan h dysh paixei thn Q @C|pg|| nt|westjava: 2 x 16 board,John|pg|| mb|p|pc|s3|nt|h_karluk: a friendly kibitzer from th netherlands guessed 3NT..I congratulate his nice guess..bravo|pg|| nt|hedyg: and they all went off?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: no...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Spil dog på den realle chance: singleton eller doubleton honnør i plads ... eller KD|pg|| nt|aupillon: there is a possible way to make it depending on the lead|pg|| nt|aupillon: This one allows :)|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mcphee: well there will be no problems in the play on this hand|pg|| nt|ybob: cold 9 tricks|pg|| nt|kotstak: O mor telos|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: only those played by my side|pg|| nt|westjava: this is the first half|pg|| pc|c3|nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|westjava: draw trump and play @C...|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|chmitty: suis pas très d'accord avec le déclarant sur celle là|pg|| nt|rmac: bid swing here|pg|| pc|h2|nt|westjava: try double finess on @D|pg|| nt|vugraph153: tylko tam bez atu bylo slabe a tu jest silne|pg|| nt|johnnybear: does not look like much of interest here, however we will keep an eye out to see whether declarer locates the queen of spades|pg|| pc|h5|nt|rmac: big|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Markku M. Mäkelä from Finland|pg|| nt|sten: now it's over|pg|| nt|sten: he's home|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hello everybody|pg|| nt|geot: Jevnt i de fleste matchene nå, bare hjemmelaget Stavanger ser ut til å gå mot en stor seier. Mot Sørreisa|pg|| nt|westjava: 3nt -1 in OR.a @H lead...|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|mcphee: maybe 10:)|pg|| nt|ybob: ?|pg|| nt|ybob: :)|pg|| nt|ybob: 9|pg|| nt|mcphee: i see no reason not to finesse|pg|| nt|chmitty: ouest est connu avec 4@d et doncla seule chance est une mise en mains finale|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 8 more here, 47 ahead I think we are close to congratulating team Germany...|pg|| nt|hedyg: 8@H wont help N|pg|| nt|h_karluk: bye all|pg|| nt|sten: hi Markku|pg|| nt|aupillon: spade, hoping King of Diamonds with West|pg|| nt|aupillon: no clu, please|pg|| nt|aupillon: club|pg|| nt|aupillon: play the queen of spades to see the effect, pliz|pg|| nt|aupillon: come on Jorgen, please|pg|| nt|vugraph117: He is thinking |pg|| pc|sT|nt|vugraph35: revoke at the table|pg|| nt|h_karluk: by?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: S didn t give a diamond... |pg|| nt|h_karluk: ty|pg|| nt|vugraph35: director at the table|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh my! i wish didnt revoke BBO matches! we cannot show revokes|pg|| nt|vugraph35: this tournament is played with the TBR 2007|pg|| nt|h_karluk: What do we do when someone revokes?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: we've to wait... :(|pg|| nt|hedyg: we sit and wait for the end of the board and the result|pg|| nt|h_karluk: A revoke is corrected until the offender or their partner plays to the next trick. There is no penalty if Dummy revokes, Otherwise, after play is over: |pg|| nt|westjava: @D now...|pg|| nt|aupillon: bon|pg|| pc|s4|nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the offending player, that trick plus 1 of any subsequent tricks won by the offending side is awarded. If the offending side doesn't win a trick ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: after the revoke, only the 1 revoke trick is awarded. So it's not automatically 2 tricks. |pg|| pc|d6|nt|chmitty: après avoir fait la dame de @h entre temps|pg|| nt|kamyk: a, to inna rozmowa|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|hedyg: 8@H was operator:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: queen now|pg|| nt|aupillon: and club discard|pg|| pc|h8|nt|johnnybear: this might be a stupid question, Liliek, but with the points 20-20, which side was declaring?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi Liliek and all|pg|| nt|westjava: :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|johnnybear: hi Hamdi|pg|| nt|westjava: hi hamdi,"how are you?":)|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|chmitty: genre : as de @c @c coupé et @h ... re @c coupé et @h|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hi John |pg|| pc|cT|nt|westjava: nice to see you again|pg|| pc|c2|nt|h_karluk: m fine tx :) likewise|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|chmitty: je crois bien qu'on arrivait légitimement à 10 levées|pg|| nt|aupillon: timing runs out|pg|| pc|d3|nt|sybarra: back to previous bd. with 8 of @D play, as others have shown to me, probably makes the hand with @S finesse |pg|| nt|sybarra: thx specs |pg|| nt|tomek: Bezbledna obrona przeciwnikow|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|aupillon: I think he thought about King 9xxx(x) in spades|pg|| pc|d7|nt|hedyg: didnt cash @H?|pg|| nt|hedyg: we are all getting tired|pg|| nt|hedyg: its been a long day|pg|| pc|dA|nt|hedyg: ah!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: wrong 9 ;)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: phew|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: we'll be right back!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: see you soon |pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all|pg|| nt|geot: http://live.bk2000.org/main.aspx |pg|| nt|aupillon: the only source of tricks were spades, in fact|pg|| pc|d4|nt|Gerben42: not 9@H?|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dT|pc|s8|nt|kotstak: telika den einai kako gia E/W giati bgazoun 3-4@c|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|aupillon: he is convinced that W hasn't got any more spades|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQ5HJT86DAQ94CQ76,SKJ2HQ754DKT7CA42,ST8764HA2D85CKT53,SA93HK93DJ632CJ98|sv|e|nt|hedyg: welcome to Bonn:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: re Martin!|pg|| nt|sybarra: Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Bonn for the 23rd Nations Cup. 20 teams divided into two groups of 10|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: Hello Hedy|pg|| nt|ahh: too quick i think he will have seen it now |pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour Pierre|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: A complete round-robin of 10 board matches before the finals. This is a match from round 9|pg|| nt|hedyg: last round of the round robin|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: a great score for Tromsø|pg|| nt|sten: on this board in the OR|pg|| mb|1D|nt|bouncer: yes,but theese guys copi that i think|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Terje thinking a lot, soon getting one more warning :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: He had 1?|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Still thinking|pg|| nt|vugraph117: He can be glad JohnP(TD) is not here at the moment :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugraph153: beda musieli troche przyspeiszyc bo sa rozdanie do tylu|pg|| nt|sten: well it is almost one hour left of the round and 8 boards|pg|| mb|1N|nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|sybarra: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html is the link to the tournament website, German as well as English|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: Elinescu stole the @D suit|pg|| nt|bouncer: wow:)|pg|| nt|kalliste: le 4333 l'a dissuadé d'un reveil à 3@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hK|nt|bouncer: strange,why not X|pg|| nt|sten: what a 4s bid by Terje here!|pg|| nt|bouncer: y,very good|pg|| nt|sten: max pressure on south|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|ahh: nobody wants to play this hand better to defend |pg|| pc|s4|nt|hedyg: welcome Povl Sommer|pg|| nt|bouncer: 4 down|pg|| pc|sA|nt|kalliste: je dois vous quiter, aurevoir tous|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|nt|sommer: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: cash your tricks and claim|pg|| nt|aldek: nadrobki beda|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|bouncer: maybe a endplay against Molberg|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|vugraphc2: µÚ11¸±ÓÉÓÚ·¢ÅÆ´íÎó£¬ÊÖ¹¤·¢ÅÆ´ò|pg|| nt|liujing: µÚ11¸±Ôõô»ØÊ£¿|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: Ö»¼Ç¼½á¹û|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: doomed for one down - but I agree with the suggestion tha N might have bid 3 spades on the diamond fit -- not much to gain thjough - and trumps could be 4-1 against|pg|| pc|c7|nt|sten: not now any longer|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|nt|bouncer: no|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|jbgood: promo now|pg|| nt|bouncer: this is well deserved|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: N discards|pg|| nt|tmice: yes indeed|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|flash: we're done in the Open Room - some people will go to any lengths to ensure the availability of comparisons :)|pg|| nt|mgchat: l'ambiguité du 2@d multi a frappé a la donne 8|pg|| nt|rimbus: les levees totales sont respectées : un fit huitieme et huit levees possibles dans chaque camp|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|stewball: srry folks distracted here momentarily|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|c9|nt|sten: ok ... still some play here as you can see|pg|| nt|bouncer: i think they are in timetroubel here|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|flash: they'll definitely be behind at the bar...|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|mc|5|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQ5HJT86DAQ94CQ76,SKJ2HQ754DKT7CA42,ST8764HA2D85CKT53,SA93HK93DJ632CJ98|sv|e|nt|ybob: well JX E QXXX W ?|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: sry played very very fast and claimed|pg|| nt|mcphee: and in serach of a ruff?|pg|| nt|ybob: np K :)|pg|| nt|rmac: and some values, i think|pg|| nt|ritong: not sure|pg|| nt|mjc12: yes|pg|| nt|mjc12: 4@h in EO|pg|| nt|ritong: mind you, the key card was the @d jack|pg|| nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the offender's partner, that trick is awarded. Also, if a trick is later won by the offender with a card in the revoke suit, then this trick too is ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: awarded.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the other side, then 1 of any subsequent tricks won by the offending side is awarded. Also, if a trick is later won by the offender with a card in ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the revoke suit, then this trick too is awarded. If the offending side doesn't win the revoke trick or any subsequent trick, then no tricks are awarded. No harm no foul.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Revokes on the 12th trick are merely corrected and there is no penalty applied since the cards are now put back and played out exactly as they should have been. |pg|| nt|hedyg: so here it seems there was 1 trick transferred since NS could take 3 tricks|pg|| nt|h_karluk: rehi all|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hi Sten|pg|| nt|westjava: 24 - 16 hcp now|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: 4N also probably indicates some other values|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6 @C has aplay here|pg|| mb|p|nt|drdepp: 1SA par Ouest serait normal ici|pg|| nt|johnnybear: and as we have seen, the 2@c opening usually shows 6+ clubs, or 5 clubs with a side major suit|pg|| nt|aupillon: If they play 2 spades on this one I offer a general tournée from Juan-Les-Pins|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i think AA wld start with @d|pg|| mb|1D|nt|westjava: re hi,hamdi|pg|| nt|h_karluk: @H|pg|| nt|westjava: and kibitzers...|pg|| nt|westjava: yes,sure|pg|| mb|d|nt|h_karluk: iya :)|pg|| nt|ritong: quelques @cs|pg|| nt|ritong: j en dirais quatre|pg|| nt|chmitty: 4 ??|pg|| nt|chmitty: c'est mon choix aussi|pg|| nt|chmitty: et après le partenaire se débrouille|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| mb|1S|nt|garden2005: uwaga! zmiany jutrzejszych terminów transmisji: 1) match 6 - 9:30 do 11:45, 2) match7 - 12:00 do 14:15|pg|| mb|1N|nt|rmac: i think after starting with 3h, north wasnt sure about the spades|pg|| nt|drdepp: sinon, Ouest aurait pu peut-etre essayer 2T au lieu de 1SA|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|westjava: in the OR,isman (west borneo) is my best friend:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: 99 spectators x 10 Euros, oh, I made a mistake, sorry|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 11 hcp < +4 and 4 = near to rule 20|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: 2NT here i expect |pg|| nt|h_karluk: how nice :)|pg|| nt|sten: he needs the club Q onside|pg|| nt|geot: ikke all verdens fart i kortene nå. Ser ut til at spillefører må gjette hjerteren her, for å vinne 2S. Med hjerter ut gjør han neppe feil?|pg|| nt|johnnybear: courageous 4@s call - possibly South is hoping North is short in hearts given the bidding|pg|| nt|aupillon: My granda pa told me : on this kind of boards, who play is down. How right he was...|pg|| nt|cindy: S has no good lead |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|rmac: and he does have 11 in hand|pg|| nt|garden2005: 3) match 8 - 14:45 do 16:30 i.. finisz|pg|| nt|tomek: Rozgrywajacy powinien sobie latwo poradzi z wygraniem 2@S|pg|| nt|cindy: thats as good as any doesnt give up a trick|pg|| nt|aupillon: French class lesson : Les carottes sont cuites pour Stavanger = carotts are now overboiled for Stavanger team|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: if hearts were splitted 4-4 it was easy try a chance for Ax on any opp..wonder how may declarer proceed|pg|| nt|cindy: he could play S for AQ of @d|pg|| nt|aupillon: you bid spades, I lead spades. If you'd bid clubs, , etc|pg|| nt|cindy: 3@s 2@d 1@c 1@h|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hedyg: seems that Helness took 4@d for a leaping michaels (as i would have too)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 12 tricks in clubs but not in NT|pg|| nt|sten: Marstrander in west knows about 2-3-4-4 and 15-17 hcp|pg|| nt|geot: Hi all, back again|pg|| nt|mmmakela: needs the heart ruff for 12th|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Marstrander in the tank, looking a bit worried..|pg|| nt|sten: that's right ... 4-2-1-5 tricks|pg|| nt|sten: that I can understand ... west has the aces but not much more|pg|| nt|mmmakela: y|pg|| nt|tomek: Kolory dobrze sie dziela, wiec nie powinno byc problemow|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hard contract , at least for me|pg|| nt|westjava: agressive bid from very,hoping a good@C...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: It did not turn out too badly considering no wastage in diamonds, however on a heart lead, things do not look so good for declarer|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mcphee: my goodness|pg|| nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg|| nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|mjc12: en 3ème position il est préférable d'ouvrir d'1@s|pg|| nt|mariner1: 4@h vul is a stretch imho|pg|| nt|vugraph35: 40sec left|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|ybob: cold game if S have KXX @C XX @H |pg|| nt|ybob: but i never bid 4@S |pg|| nt|mcphee: 2N and 3@S I could live with|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ritong: deux et deux quatre et un cinq|pg|| nt|aupillon: so my granpa was right|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ybob: yes|pg|| nt|hedyg: no way to play 2 boards in 40 secs|pg|| nt|westjava: say in bandung when he was student,medical doctor|pg|| nt|westjava: sacrifice by S|pg|| pc|dT|nt|mcphee: 4 strikes me as suicide|pg|| nt|westjava: stay|pg|| nt|kotstak: exeretiko stop|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|geot: Think East has shown 2-3-4-4 distribution with his 3H|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now they'll reach it|pg|| nt|sten: tough decision|pg|| nt|kotstak: malon den tha apofygei to mesa o extelwn alla allo 1 allo 2|pg|| nt|h_karluk: and our friend John defined well "co-u-ra-ge-o-us"|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it is also an option to try 3-3 hearts..both red suits 4-3 on EW collections|pg|| pc|c2|nt|geot: Ville vært betydelig verre om valget hadde kommet idet vest var inne senere i spillet.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|rmac: good lead, seems automatic|pg|| nt|h_karluk: great day today - same time 9 tables live transaction on Vugraph|pg|| nt|sten: I would have expected a pass on 3NT|pg|| nt|vugraph117: A lot of alerting ,but no info to be heard|pg|| nt|mmmakela: close decision imo|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|chmitty: EW font 6@s sur l'impasse @h ... l'addition ne va pas leur plaire|pg|| nt|ritong: trois de chute, donc|pg|| nt|tomek: Niestety musze konczyc komentowanie, czesc|pg|| pc|s6|nt|garden2005: dziêkujemy Tomku i zapraszamy|pg|| nt|vugraph153: dziekujemy i zapraszamy ponownie|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|h_karluk: In the game of bridge, Leaping Michaels is a conventional overcall made in defense to an opposing 2-level or 3-level preempt|pg|| nt|chmitty: mais quand même plus que leurs homologues de l'autre salle|pg|| nt|h_karluk: time to touch hearts|pg|| nt|aupillon: what is the obligation to say 1NT with East's hand. is him paid to bid ?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 9 HCP my friend and his p doubled|pg|| nt|aupillon: The par was 2 spades in NS = or 1 down|pg|| nt|h_karluk: on 1st seat|pg|| pc|h4|nt|cindy: i think 1N was auto|pg|| pc|h2|nt|h_karluk: Leaping Michaels is played by many pairs as it provides a means to show strong two-suited hands (5-5 or longer) that are less suitable for a takeout double.|pg|| nt|hedyg: these matches are great practice for Pau for these teams|pg|| nt|westjava: yes...its a national holiday in Indonesia:)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: E has absolute minimum but W has nice controls so heading towards 6 @C seems right|pg|| pc|h9|nt|h_karluk: To do so, Leaping Michaels, utilises the 4¦ and 4¦ bids. Similar to Michaels cuebid, in case this minor suit overcall is in the opposing suit, both major suits are implied. In case ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the overcall is not a cuebid, the suit bid plus a major suit is indicated.|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now he's happy he did|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Marstrander comments that anderssens hand was anemic :)|pg|| nt|sten: Tromsø is still picking up imp's|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|cindy: describes his hand at a low level|pg|| nt|h_karluk: doubler may held 17+ and then initial pass would not be a good idea|pg|| nt|aupillon: You convinced me|pg|| pc|d9|nt|h_karluk: :)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|westjava: good guess...!|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|h_karluk: nice decision|pg|| pc|h5|nt|h_karluk: *4@c /4@d|pg|| nt|vugraph35: our next match will be Germany I vs-. England|pg|| nt|johnnybear: yes, at first glance it seems courageous was a very nice word to describe it, however the auction does suggest that partner has a singleton or doubleton in hearts, in which case ...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: the all working values might see them through|pg|| nt|johnnybear: so perhaps it is not a terrible bid. However, I think I would have been passing quickly, and imagining -1 in 3@s|pg|| pc|hA|nt|chmitty: je présume une histoire de passe "forcing"|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mmmakela: claim time|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|frankaus: good choice wins 5 imps|pg|| nt|ritong: probablement|pg|| nt|johnnybear: those 5332 hands really do need partner to turn up with quite a bit|pg|| pc|s7|nt|vugraph35: it ll start in 10minutes|pg|| nt|ritong: et un apéro orageux a venir|pg|| pc|s9|nt|h_karluk: nice spot, 2 way finesse--even drop hope|pg|| pc|c7|nt|sybarra: coming up on last hand |pg|| nt|ritong: sigh|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|nt|ritong: no 2.2 trumps|pg|| nt|mjc12: well played|pg|| nt|vugraph35: sorry, they are too fast|pg|| nt|hedyg: last 2 matches in the RR|pg|| nt|MolvaM: öpim ben seni|pg|| nt|westjava: -2|pg|| nt|h_karluk: not sure abt this line|pg|| pc|hK|nt|hedyg: np Merle:)|pg|| nt|westjava: 300 for north sulawesi (=celebes)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I think press room gained a good example|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|h_karluk: for their bulletins|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S854HKT7DAQ65CT87,SAQJ9H3DKT9CKQ632,ST73H4DJ7432CJ954,SK62HAQJ98652D8CA|sv|b|nt|sommer: 3NT looks good from S here|pg|| nt|minnie lee: have a nuce evening all:)|pg|| nt|minnie lee: nice:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: 4@H now ,N/S. '|pg|| nt|bouncer: did he need a smoke now?|pg|| nt|liujing: »¹Ã»¿ªÊ¼?|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: Á½¶ÔÑ¡ÊÖÔÚѯÎʶԷ½µÄÔ¼¶¨ºÍÐźÅ|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: ±ÈÈü¿ªÊ¼|pg|| nt|mgchat: 6@h en EO|pg|| nt|mgchat: mais la defense a 7@c est rentable, puisque moins 3|pg|| nt|mgchat: moins 4|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|liujing: Ŷ£¬Ã»ÓпµÀÀîºîÄÑÃÙÖªÒôÁË|pg|| mb|2C|nt|hedyg: 3@s by N?|pg|| nt|jbgood: kibs suggest that W sh not cash the 3rd spade - but then Geir would certainly let prd in on the @h queen to give him a ruff|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol,X|pg|| nt|flash: i had a suggestion that the standard range for a NT opener by a male in Norway extended down to 14 HCP... i'm starting to believe it|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: yes!!!!!!!!|pg|| nt|hedyg: good bid|pg|| nt|bouncer: where is the @D?|pg|| nt|sten: trf or not?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|sommer: an option, yes..done|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@s= pls bid 3NT with a @s stopper|pg|| nt|hedyg: Wladow not happy, i wouldnt be either|pg|| nt|sommer: ..but W may lead @CJ!, wich will cause S troubles|pg|| nt|sommer: he can't seriously bid more|pg|| nt|hedyg: can make double dummy...but in reality impossible after J@c to play A@D, @c to hand and small @d for endplay|pg|| nt|hedyg: amazing board|pg|| mb|4N|nt|hedyg: wow!|pg|| nt|garden2005: p³askie rozdanie za 630/660|pg|| nt|ahh: getting messy|pg|| nt|bouncer: 3@C 16+ and so on:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: aiai|pg|| nt|bouncer: almost on evry CC its says 14-16 (17) :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rimbus: difficile de savoir si ce splinter imopse l'atout @h ou @s...|pg|| mb|5S|nt|sommer: very interestiing..but still 3NT, S is normal|pg|| nt|sommer: wow!..6 loserhand rebid|pg|| nt|hedyg: Dr Wladow doesnt like being stolen from|pg|| nt|sommer: 4@S is makeable for GIB:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: no entry to E hand|pg|| nt|sommer: @H|pg|| nt|sommer: always 1 @Hloser|pg|| nt|sten: or (14)15-17|pg|| mb|p|nt|aldek: N nie ma nadwyzek, zdyscyplinowany pas|pg|| nt|ahh: yuk yuk yuk |pg|| nt|tmice: :):)|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|bouncer: y|pg|| nt|rimbus: impose|pg|| mb|6H|nt|sommer: 4BT?|pg|| nt|sommer: NT..|pg|| nt|hedyg: hardly..|pg|| nt|hedyg: maybe 5@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: but his def now needed the @h 8 with N - so he should have played the ten and take the downer with a club ruff - just shows us that even he is human|pg|| nt|bouncer: good hand and 17 is 18-19|pg|| nt|flash: this was let through in the Open Room; needs a @D shift to beat it|pg|| nt|flash: (perhaps unfortunately,) this is well worth a think by Terje...|pg|| mb|p|nt|andersk: it was common to have 15-17, but these days, 17pointers are graduated in 2, weak for 1 NT and good for rebid 2 NT (18-19)|pg|| mb|p|nt|tmice: wow|pg|| mb|d|nt|sommer: may go down now|pg|| nt|ahh: send all people with heart problems out of the room bloodshed|pg|| nt|bouncer: wow,why dident he lead a @S|pg|| nt|liujing: @S µ¥È±×ösplinterÒԺ󣬶«»¹ÊÇÊÔÁËһϣ¬²»¹ý @C ¶¼Ã»¿ØÖÆ|pg|| nt|mgchat: trouveront pas sur cette sequence|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: what after A@D?|pg|| nt|garden2005: korzystaj¹c z okazji, przeprowadzê test na wiedzê: Kto wie co robi przy stole Ewa Harasimowicz w chwilach kiedy chce siê naprawdê skoncentrowaæ?|pg|| nt|garden2005: o 16:15 koñczê przyjmowanie propozycji|pg|| nt|flash: that was the last chance for the defense to prevail by force; now it would take some help|pg|| nt|rimbus: le controle @d n'est-il pas implicite quand l'ouvreur semble l'avoir dénié ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: play pd for J@C?|pg|| nt|sommer: just talked with a kib about that:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: all my kibs play small @C|pg|| nt|aldek: 2BA tez juz bez jednej|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: only 800 now |pg|| nt|bouncer: and all the children:)|pg|| nt|tmice: it looks like Kristiansand is scoring everything in this 2half, but now they get stucked...|pg|| nt|ahh: small @S now rapidly |pg|| nt|bouncer: yes he will do that|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|nt|garden2005: "pyta o znaczenie otwarcia 1@h u Holenderek" - ale to nie to :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: better play another @c|pg|| nt|ahh: basic principles v part scores doubled lead trumps |pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|hedyg: wd|pg|| nt|sommer: ..only problem is an entry to the table...with a helicopter, 10 tricks are easy:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: good defence|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bouncer: a push then|pg|| nt|flash: yes - West can ruff this low to prevent a pitch, but then declarer can cross to hand to repeat it|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahh: oh no he will not must be pantomime season |pg|| pc|h3|nt|garden2005: "poprawia makija¿" - te¿ pud³o :)|pg|| nt|ahh: 500 now |pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|bouncer: yes but very often u get nervous.:) and do some stupid things|pg|| nt|ahh: e/w play their get of jail free card |pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S854HKT7DAQ65CT87,SAQJ9H3DKT9CKQ632,ST73H4DJ7432CJ954,SK62HAQJ98652D8CA|sv|b|nt|sybarra: these are 10 bd. matches in a round robin format |pg|| nt|vugraph35: last one here, thx everybody... next section will start in about 20 minutes, journalists vs england|pg|| nt|sybarra: Many thanks to our excellent operator in Felix Zimmerman, Great job!|pg|| nt|sybarra: Thanks to my fellow commentator Frank Budai for joining me this session. Always interesting discussion and insights on the hands|pg|| nt|vugraph35: Next round in the closed will be the operator Merle Schwede, she will substitute me because I play for Germany IV |pg|| nt|mcphee: I think the N player here was trying to get some back|pg|| nt|mariner1: so in Open they only bid 3 yet made 4@h|pg|| nt|ritong: west had an excellent hand|pg|| nt|ritong: it just didn t fit with @ss|pg|| nt|rmac: t for jim yet?|pg|| nt|mariner1: yes however with both o's in auction I think 3@h VUL was enough,,,, just conservative me|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board now|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 20-20 trappy deal|pg|| nt|chmitty: le temps se couvre chez toi Henri ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: :)|pg|| nt|westjava: a phantom sacrifice...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: I imagine the operator's view might have been blocked at the finish|pg|| nt|westjava: :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: when will we play six hearts ? :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|drdepp: 4C facile|pg|| nt|ritong: il fait super beau, a montpellier|pg|| nt|chmitty: veinard|pg|| nt|sten: up in a 19-11 lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: vi:)|pg|| nt|geot: slam again, this time N/S|pg|| nt|mmmakela: spade slam here?|pg|| mb|2C|nt|mcphee: now W jumps into it|pg|| nt|ritong: bid 4@h, it makes or not however, i think he somewhat mistimed it|pg|| nt|ritong: @h Q was not a good idea|pg|| nt|ritong: would have worked with 2.2 trumps, tho|pg|| nt|ritong: next:)|pg|| nt|mariner1: N thinking of his call here? seems DBL comes to mind|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 4441 in original multy conventinal call|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 2 @d|pg|| nt|drdepp: 3SA un peu effrayant mais avec ce treflage amical, le declarant ne serait jamais en danger|pg|| nt|chmitty: bon on peut aller se chercher à boire, sur celle là|pg|| nt|westjava: 24-16 hcp now|pg|| nt|h_karluk: destiny is in a fickle mood there :(|pg|| mb|p|nt|mjc12: 3nt in NS|pg|| nt|geot: its a dangerous spade lay out....|pg|| mb|4H|nt|sybarra: Our appreciation to the DBV for bringing this wonderful tournament to BBO. And special thanks to Peter Eidt for putting this all together|pg|| nt|frankaus: tu all who make these vugraps possible - BBO, roland - the operators, and off course the specs|pg|| nt|mcphee: 2N a @C pre-empt|pg|| nt|h_karluk: alertable double there|pg|| nt|westjava: 4@H is normal contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: so good luck to you!!! |pg|| nt|vugraph35: tx|pg|| nt|sybarra: Germany IV=jrs right? |pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes|pg|| nt|sybarra: go gettem! |pg|| nt|sybarra: Finally a big thank you to the best audience in the world of bridge! Your inputs are very much appreciated|pg|| nt|frankaus: bye shirley tkx for the company|pg|| nt|vugraph35: josef piekarek already asks his partner if he knows its his turn :)|pg|| nt|vugraph35: thinking between 4 @S and 3 NT|pg|| nt|vugraph35: i think|pg|| nt|ritong: un trois sans atouts paisible|pg|| nt|johnnybear: Liliek are you familiar with the E-W methods? Is 1@h a relay-type call?|pg|| mb|4N|nt|ybob: X p p p ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: and we will see some part score dbled |pg|| nt|mjc12: may be|pg|| nt|westjava: yes|pg|| nt|westjava: penalty by S|pg|| nt|mmmakela: missing spade 8 might play spades right not dblfinessing|pg|| nt|sten: that's true|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: should S X 2@H ?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: depends if X shows i want this suit and i dont want this suit :) but I think he shdnt, it's not more than just 5 @H|pg|| nt|geot: its easy for us to see how to solve this spade, but not that easy at the table|pg|| nt|westjava: I'm not sure,John|pg|| mb|5S|nt|mcphee: i pass this fast|pg|| mb|p|nt|westjava: but I think so|pg|| mb|6C|nt|mcphee: partner can hit 3@C I am getting rich maybe|pg|| nt|ybob: with @C lead = -3|pg|| nt|h_karluk: otherwise TD and/or appeal committee decide|pg|| nt|chmitty: on me suggère 1@c d'ouverture : Henri tu rappelles la "règle" ?|pg|| nt|ritong: c est trop moin, deja|pg|| nt|sten: what's the correct play of the spades here?|pg|| nt|stoffers: 5-4 minor, minst GF|pg|| nt|westjava: but,they try to go...|pg|| nt|kamyk: 2@C - najpierw uk³ad, póŸniej si³a - to w³aœciwa taktyka|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: loin*|pg|| nt|ritong: la mienne est spades for ever|pg|| nt|chmitty: Il vaut mieux ouvrir les 55 noirs de 1@s avce une main limitée et 1@c avec une main forte ...|pg|| nt|ritong: bien que mon systeme me fasse ouvrir de deux @s, des @s et des @cs|pg|| nt|ritong: et du jeu|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: has the entries tho it will just drive them to 4@S |pg|| nt|sybarra: well N/S can beat 4 @S |pg|| nt|ybob: with @H lead too :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: given layout obviously take out for @h|pg|| nt|garden2005: móg³ Boguœ si³ê bardziej podreœliæ:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: S ruff 3º round|pg|| nt|ybob: 3NT ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: nastly lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: seems Hauge missed the lead|pg|| nt|chmitty: la raison rationnelle est l'espace disponible et le risque d'intervention|pg|| nt|kskov: Hard av Harr, selv om han har 5-4|pg|| nt|geot: Normal 3NT, vest viser 20-21, og nord løfter eller melder 3S= minor søk. Det er ni stikk i NT med tre i kløver, ti eller elleve om han finner kløveren|pg|| nt|geot: jeg mener øst løfter eller melder 3S|pg|| nt|kotstak: allo ena xeri pou oi E/W den exoun ikanopoihtiko symbolaio par olo to fyllo|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mjc12: 3nt or 3@h|pg|| nt|mariner1: 3N might make only takes a slight slip from defense|pg|| nt|ritong: ...|pg|| nt|chmitty: mais de nombreux joueurs ouvrent toujours de 1@s maintenant|pg|| nt|ritong: spades for eveeeer|pg|| nt|sten: the doubl finesse or small against the Q|pg|| nt|kamyk: nie móg³ : oni maj¹ kolor uzgodniony, partner milczy - w takiej sytuacji czêœciówek lepiej nie kontrowaæ|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Deni is one of th first International players in th field..05-07 his best crop years on seniors..|pg|| pc|d8|nt|vugraph35: how? |pg|| nt|sybarra: or maybe not, depends what W ruffs with |pg|| nt|frankaus: @C ruff|pg|| nt|vugraph35: i think smirnov is not a beginner and will ruff @S too|pg|| nt|sybarra: didnt see Jx. of clubs in W |pg|| nt|vugraph35: :) ok|pg|| nt|frankaus: but W will ruff with @SA|pg|| nt|ritong: you mean a colossal booboo|pg|| nt|h_karluk: so west should informed|pg|| nt|geot: different ways to attack it, and if he had the 8 as Marrku said, you should double finesse, |pg|| nt|johnnybear: It seems the extra bids have done well to buy the contract. 2@d should have no problems, and N-S look to have 8 tricks in 2@h|pg|| pc|dA|nt|garden2005: na cztery rêce móg³, w realu masz racjê Karol|pg|| nt|kamyk: ponadto nie mia³ wygodnego wistu, a wpadka bêdzie raptem bez jednej|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|stoffers: vel, hard 3@s der, og tror 2NT nå viser 22-24|pg|| nt|geot: synes dere 3S er det beste her? ikke bare løfte til 3NT?|pg|| nt|kotstak: kakh antam|pg|| nt|h_karluk: awful :(|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ritong: anyway, yhey preferred a lower shot|pg|| nt|rmac: you french dont pussyfoot around, henri|pg|| nt|h_karluk: where are @s tricks--inside or onside|pg|| nt|chmitty: la raison "rationnelle" étant : pour une fois que j'ai les @s je ne vais pas me priver|pg|| nt|geot: I am not sure, but maybe low from N is the correct play...this time it works so it is so easy to say:)|pg|| nt|kskov: i grenseland, Hegrand har vel sist 22-24 nå?|pg|| nt|kskov: vist|pg|| nt|westjava: ...and fly too high|pg|| pc|dK|nt|drdepp: la sequence de N, a mon avis est normalement a eviter. avec une si belle main en face une ouverture, repondre dans une couleur mediocre a 4 cartes avec du soutien a coeur n'est pas ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: un bon premier pas. mais...(a suivre)|pg|| nt|drdepp: mais on comprend que N n'a pas aime ses alternatives alors il s'est dit qu'au moins 1P conserverait de l'espace. le defaut de ce raisonnement se revele au prochain tour ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: d'encheres..... (a suivre)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|hedyg: hmmm he didnt!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|hedyg: but after Q@S he switched to @H!|pg|| nt|geot: Han må gjette kløveren|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det er ikke nok|pg|| nt|geot: seld det går vel ikke|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Når de sidder 4-1|pg|| nt|kotstak: alla par ola afta |pg|| nt|johnnybear: I suppose a simple 2@d bid passed around to South would result in a balance of some sort|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|mcphee: this may even go down|pg|| nt|ybob: hard to play @H to 9|pg|| nt|mcphee: yes|pg|| nt|ritong: l idee de l ouverture bicolore est que ça libere la redemande de 2@c conventionnelle|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|geot: they will end up in 6S now, 5H ask for the trump Q, and S say yes, plussK of hearts|pg|| nt|kskov: må vel røffe en hj i bordet, og da går det ikke|pg|| nt|westjava: take ace/king and @D return|pg|| nt|westjava: finished|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|mmmakela: missing the 8 think @S A-spade percentage play|pg|| nt|geot: yes, probably...low from North may be very bad, if W has a single honor|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ritong: montrant une bonne main sans bonne enchère|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i think he started t represent Inonesia on 76|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|johnnybear: wow!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: *I n d o n e s i a @H|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mjc12: good vchez guy|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|nt|mcphee: this is a back breaker for N/S when they