vg|Norwegian Team Championship,1_ round - 2_ half,I,1,16,Stavanger BK,20,Heimdal BK 1,80| rs|2HW-2,3HNx-2,4SE-3,4SE=,4SN=,4SN=,3NN-1,1SS+1,4DSx-3,4SW-1,1NS=,1NS=,4HW-1,2SN-2,3NN+3,3NN+1,1SE=,2DN=,3NE+2,3NW+1,3SN-1,3NW=,3NS-1,3NS-1,4SE=,4SE=,2SS+1,2SS+2,4SE+2,6SE=,3NS-1,1NS+3| pn|Stroem,Toendel,Moen,Mathisen,Eide,Lauvsnes,Livgård,Bjelland|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQ8765H9764D3CQT6,SA2HKQT52D4CAJ754,SJ3HAJ83DAKJT876C,SKT94HDQ952CK9832|sv|o|nt|geot: controlled defence by E/W|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|andersk: 6@c here?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stoffers: or 2@h|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|geot: N/S has a nice contract in hearts here....if you look only at their cards. But Tøndel bought the contract ...in hearts|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|geot: So Heimdal played 3H in CR, and 2H the other direction in Open Room:)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|geot: Should west have shown a 2 suiter here? some way or another|pg|| nt|vugraph116: Director at the table|pg|| nt|stoffers: 1NT used as natural is most common these days, but 2@d definitly an option in my eyes yes|pg|| nt|vugraph116: penalty card by south,he didnt see he was overruffed|pg|| nt|geot: he could double, or bid a Michaels Cue 2D or 2NT ...what do I know....2H was not the best this time...|pg|| nt|andersk: what card is penalty card?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|stoffers: @h6 is my guess|pg|| nt|geot: he played out to the nest trick Anders|pg|| nt|geot: next|pg|| nt|andersk: yes, but what did he play?|pg|| nt|andersk: that was my question|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|geot: yes probably heart 6|pg|| pc|s4|nt|andersk: that @S J looks like it was a small @S|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|stoffers: yes|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|nt|geot: terrible contract this. having a superb club support....well need some of these to get match a little closer|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|andersk: I wonder why Tøndel didnt X|pg|| nt|stoffers: no mather what: playing a parscore (or game) in the same suit different ways in a teamgame is NOT a good idea! |pg|| mc|6|nt|geot: I wondered too Anders five minutes ago:) or a 2 suiter bid|pg|| nt|stoffers: an idea wich cost them 9imp's this time|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQ8765H9764D3CQT6,SA2HKQT52D4CAJ754,SJ3HAJ83DAKJT876C,SKT94HDQ952CK9832|sv|o|nt|atlantajon: of his own making ...not acting over 2@d|pg|| nt|othered1: Somehow being given a free run from 2@H on should have let them investigate more efficiently. Or maybe you need to spend more time on continuations after your very definitive ...|pg|| nt|othered1: leaping Micheals call.|pg|| nt|petergill: This Round 9 match is the most vital clash of the 2008 Camrose|pg|| nt|petergill: A NS slam to begin. |pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hello Cornelia and Jon. Good luck!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: John I mean|pg|| nt|granguru: tks Roland..same to u|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome everyone!|pg|| nt|garden2005: ruszy³y|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Can someone give me a link to the ccs?|pg|| nt|atlantajon: Agreed Ed|pg|| nt|petergill: 6@C looks easy, but 6@H looks hard to make, with the bad heart break.|pg|| nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6H needs a good view in trumps|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|didev: http://www.bridgeur.be/teams07/|pg|| nt|galadriel: cheers :-)|pg|| nt|petergill: This transfer to clubs is be a good way to ensure that hearts is not the final contract. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6@C maybe|pg|| nt|vugraph14: a little think from West|pg|| mb|2H|nt|chick: Hello Roland, and John!|pg|| mb|3C|nt|granguru: HI CHICK|pg|| nt|granguru: EW did well to stay out of the bidding|pg|| mb|3H|nt|vugraph153: 2@d stary albo 22+ BAL|pg|| mb|d|nt|petergill: I think 3@C is the positive reply, showing a good fit in clubs, but I'm not sure. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: North needs to find the @c lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: @C lead is pretty important here|pg|| nt|atlantajon: much better contract in the closed room....4@s by east....|pg|| pc|c2|nt|atlantajon: -1|pg|| nt|othered1: Would you have taken a slower auction as west? Still would get the @S in the wrong hand.|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I would have bid 2@s over 2@h raise...then you get to 4@s....still from wrong side|pg|| pc|cT|nt|mmmakela: normally 2 NT shows pos|pg|| nt|petergill: 5NT was "pick a slam". A good auction. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: easy now|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|granguru: now they need to cash the 2 round aces and 3 trump tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: which looks pretty easy|pg|| nt|granguru: from here|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|didev: open majors by 4 and easts plays 4@s|pg|| nt|atlantajon: or souths opens 1nt with his 15 hcp...then west shows the majors....and east plays a @s contract|pg|| nt|granguru: done|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|nt|petergill: 920, a good start for Ireland. After 8 of 10 matches, England lead on 160 VPs, Ireland 2nd on 141 VPs. Ireland need a good win. |pg|| pc|d2|nt|mmmakela: H 10 the vital card|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Gerben42: good morning all|pg|| pc|s4|nt|petergill: This is the second half of the Round 9 match. |pg|| pc|s5|nt|didev: what happened with the @c lead?|pg|| nt|othered1: nice @H pips to have in dummy|pg|| nt|galadriel: How well do you know the teams Dirk?|pg|| nt|galadriel: Would BCOB be the fancied team?|pg|| nt|stevedr: yes|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Gerben42: welcome to the Round Robin match between Germany 1 and England|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|didev: i played them the last 2 years|pg|| nt|didev: but it was my last year:(|pg|| nt|didev: BCOB won the final the last 5 or 6 years|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ah, so they are very experienced|pg|| nt|didev: Amsel is new on the team|pg|| nt|Gerben42: should go down after NS have been pushed to the 3-level|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d6|nt|petergill: In Round 10, Ireland play Northern Ireland who are coming last, whereas England have a slightly tougher draw in CBAI, Ireland's 2nd team (the host country has two teams to prevent ...|pg|| nt|petergill: a bye). |pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h6|nt|didev: and Cornelis and Dedonder were new last year|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c3|nt|Gerben42: but 3@D was making|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|galadriel: Is this a trial for the Europeans?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|didev: no|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST753HK98DQJ864CQ,SA64HA5DAT753CT73,S2HQT763DK92CA985,SKQJ98HJ42DCKJ642|sv|n|nt|geot: good rule that one Stoffers|pg|| nt|andersk: I was still busy getting commentators:)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|geot: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|geot: wd Anders lots of them now:)|pg|| nt|andersk: ty|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: looks like a flat board here|pg|| nt|geot: So Heimdal was in for 25VP by not losing anything in last half, now they are down to 24-6|pg|| nt|stoffers: long trumps: lead your longest suit...|pg|| pc|d8|nt|stoffers: and he did!|pg|| nt|andersk: actually 51 IMP is 23-7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|geot: so 2VP flew away already on that hand|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|stoffers: more imps here: this is going down now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|andersk: I think so too|pg|| nt|geot: 420 is a strong result! yes, they will not win 4S here, I think|pg|| nt|andersk: @C Q lead in closed room, didnt actually hurt much|pg|| pc|c3|nt|geot: no club Q was maybe not a good lead with four trumps?|pg|| pc|c5|nt|stoffers: huh? not a club?|pg|| nt|andersk: @D, realy?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|andersk: 2 or 3 down|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|nt|geot: this means 11 imps to Stavanger who has started very well in this half!|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|hT|mc|7|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST753HK98DQJ864CQ,SA64HA5DAT753CT73,S2HQT763DK92CA985,SKQJ98HJ42DCKJ642|sv|n|nt|didev: championship|pg|| nt|didev: final of trial|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ok thx :-)|pg|| nt|didev: in a week or 2 weeks|pg|| mb|1S|nt|boltonian2: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: HI Alex|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 17+ any. |pg|| nt|chick: Hello Alex welcome :)|pg|| mb|2D|nt|didev: BCOB also favourite for trial for Europ champs|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the question is here if EW have the methods to NOT play 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|galadriel: Both sides have a double fit, may see a competitive auction|pg|| nt|didev: Cornelis Amsel were by far first in the butler of the round robin of the championship|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: Patterson-Rees play a 14-16 NT |pg|| nt|granguru: so a in-between NT|pg|| mb|4S|nt|petergill: 1@H = common expert practice to overcall on a strong four card major if the hand is unsuitable for a t/o dbl. |pg|| mb|p|nt|mmmakela: wow N took a big chance imo|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: tough to beat 1N here|pg|| nt|granguru: probably only a @C could have done it|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: after an initial @H lead, declarer must find @C|pg|| nt|vugraph35: Hallberg told Piekarek, his partner could have 3 @D, but only if he is 4432|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Gerben42: hmm... he has only 3@D but not 4432|pg|| pc|c3|nt|granguru: with a @H return if declarer ducked|pg|| pc|cA|nt|atlantajon: 590 is this score|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|galadriel: Well, S didn't find out about the double fit|pg|| nt|galadriel: Which may have influenced his decision|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes...|pg|| pc|s5|nt|garden2005: mecze kobiece i open rozgrywane s¹ na oœmiu sto³ach w jednej przestronnej sali|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|mmmakela: ag many 11-13 game is on|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|benjy: Good afternoon|pg|| pc|sK|nt|petergill: 3NT fails by a trick or more, so this looks like a good stop by the Irish pair. |pg|| pc|s7|nt|granguru: The lead of AQJxx is most desirable against 3N but no so much against 1N|pg|| pc|s6|nt|boltonian2: declarer has a lot of options though, which could lead to mistake, discards might be difficult|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Piekarek did not play the smallest @C, that might be a "Smith echo", don't return @H|pg|| nt|garden2005: rozgrywane bêd¹ mecze 16to rozdaniowe przeliczane na VP na obu sto³ach|pg|| pc|s9|nt|atlantajon: looks like 2 rounds of spades then @c's is the only play|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but overtaking @HJ was telling also|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|petergill: Hi Ben |pg|| nt|granguru: because you need 7 tricks to defeat the contract (vs only 5 in 3NT)|pg|| nt|chick: bad move, he needed the diamond trick|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hi Ben|pg|| mc|10|nt|boltonian2: now he has pitched a diamond from dummy it should be fairly straight forward|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SK7HA765DA632CT52,S54HKT983DJ8CAQ43,SQJT862HDK954CK87,SA93HQJ42DQT7CJ96|sv|e|nt|geot: A few more and it is match again! |pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|andersk: 2 hands scoored and 20 IMPs, that willl be enuff to win if it goes on like this:)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|geot: this tournament is played all ag all one match, VP, so, all they can pick up is worthy. No KO system here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: 21-9 at the moment|pg|| mb|p|nt|stoffers: time for coffee|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|geot: Good bid by Moen. Seems they have got all the confidence they lacked in first half. But 4S was reached also in CR|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|geot: I like that practical 4S bid, agree guys?|pg|| nt|stoffers: running scores: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| nt|stoffers: indeed geo|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|geot: Of course as some say could be a slam in diamonds from time to time, must admit that|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SK7HA765DA632CT52,S54HKT983DJ8CAQ43,SQJT862HDK954CK87,SA93HQJ42DQT7CJ96|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|petergill: 1@S 10-16, 5+ spades|pg|| nt|garden2005: wynik liczony bêdzie ³¹cznie: oddzielnie dla open i oddzielnie dla kobiet|pg|| nt|garden2005: suma jednego meczu to 50VP:)|pg|| mb|d|mb|3C!|an|10-12 4!h|nt|petergill: 1NT 6-12 semi-forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: EW could have made 2@D most probably..but never entered|pg|| mb|p|nt|boltonian2: this 1NT looks even less likely to make|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|petergill: 2@S looks touch and go. Will probably make, but we will see. |pg|| nt|benjy: i don't think it can make with accurate defense|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraph35: N/S are leading 2./4.|pg|| pc|h3|nt|vugraph35: small from a double|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|atlantajon: a few more imps for E/W|pg|| nt|didev: some imps for Uccle|pg|| nt|mmmakela: EW has a shot at 3@C so 2@S made good|pg|| pc|s7|nt|galadriel: Oh well EW going to go plus|pg|| pc|s5|nt|benjy: Crouch will need to play ace and another @D at somepoint to defeat this|pg|| pc|sT|nt|petergill: The club attack is best. The defence needs to shorten South to three trumps before the 13th heart is set up. |pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|nt|granguru: almost impossible|pg|| nt|Gerben42: NS can make 2@S but it is not clear if anyone should bid again, both have 3@H|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|galadriel: 1NT an interesting choice by S|pg|| nt|granguru: nice if -1|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|nt|petergill: Sorry, you are all right - a diamond attack at some time does better. |pg|| pc|cA|nt|granguru: a good result against 2@D +90|pg|| nt|chick: he'll be lucky (or good) if he can get 5 tricks|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hT|nt|galadriel: I suppose it was natural?|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|nt|galadriel: Could he have been suggesting the minors after the redouble?|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|atlantajon: might have been|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|petergill: Now South can make by ruffing with @SJ in dummy |pg|| pc|d4|nt|petergill: ruff hi or low, both OK ... 8 tricks|pg|| nt|benjy: as long as he doesn't try and draw trumps, which would be wrong in anycase|pg|| nt|petergill: as long as he chooses to ruff with @SJ in dummy. The alternate line of playing for 3-3 trumps fails. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: sry 2@S is -1|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|petergill: Claim now. |pg|| pc|s8|nt|atlantajon: hooking @h?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQJ62H765DA93CJ96,SA95HA82DT765CA84,SK73HK943DKQ4CKT7,ST84HQJTDJ82CQ532|sv|b|nt|stoffers: some pictures from the first half , brought to us by the very kind Snorre Aalberg: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| mb|1D|nt|stoffers: ehh: http://picasaweb.google.no/snorreaalberg/NM2008Dag1|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|stoffers: Thats the pictures :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|andersk: ty CK! |pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: A tough 2S bid....may be 1S enough with that flat distribution.....but where did that 2NT come from?|pg|| nt|stoffers: Pictures are taken by Kåre Kristiansen, good job Kåre!|pg|| nt|andersk: It is a terrible 2 @S IMO|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: and 2 NT even worse|pg|| nt|stoffers: i agree to the 2NT after 2@s...|pg|| nt|stoffers: but thats no 2@s bid..|pg|| nt|geot: but has north any reason to bid more? No|pg|| pc|d2|nt|andersk: are you serious CK?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|andersk: Im quite sure 2 @S showes 8-10 and 4+ @S sinse he bidded 2 @S, then 2 NT is not good|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|stoffers: diamonds well placed behind opener, T of clubs..i like the 2NT, but hate the 2@s|pg|| pc|s6|nt|andersk: and?|pg|| pc|c4|nt|andersk: IMO 2 @S is way too much, same with 2 NT!|pg|| pc|h3|nt|stoffers: unlucky PARTNER has the @d A, give him QJxxx-Tx-xxx-Axx, thats 7 points, and you got a vulnerable game!|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|geot: diamonds are well placed also in 2S:) well, the 2S was a bit tough, and 2NT discussable, lets say so... and all this got them to high|pg|| nt|andersk: Partner never have that optimal hands:)|pg|| nt|andersk: My partners doesnt:)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| nt|andersk: 5 IMP|pg|| nt|stoffers: my point is: 3NT has GOT to have play after partners 2@s, its vulnerable, so the bonus is huge. |pg|| nt|andersk: ok|pg|| nt|andersk: then 2 @S is way too much|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SQJ62H765DA93CJ96,SA95HA82DT765CA84,SK73HK943DKQ4CKT7,ST84HQJTDJ82CQ532|sv|b|nt|boltonian2: this could be interesting|pg|| nt|boltonian2: NS can make 5@H EW, will struggle in @S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @S8 in the way|pg|| mb|1D|nt|didev: well stopped in 5 in the closed|pg|| nt|benjy: 1Nt - 14-16 in this position|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|granguru: NS can make 6@H guessing @D right|pg|| nt|boltonian2: if N overcalls 1@H, which seems normal, S will not stop short of 5@H|pg|| nt|chick: K-R 1C is 10+ but maybe only 2 clubs|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 2 A's?|pg|| nt|granguru: ooops sorry|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 4@C from patterson?|pg|| nt|chick: can make 12 tricks right after the oops take their 2 :)|pg|| nt|granguru: everything said was to make 5@H not 6|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the 2@S might push NS to a seemingly hopeless 3NT|pg|| mb|1S|nt|benjy: north would do very well to lead a @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yep..good old RKCB|pg|| nt|benjy: but a @S is normal|pg|| nt|granguru: good chick|pg|| nt|chick: hehe :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: this wont impress N overly greatly|pg|| nt|chick: been there done that :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: I imagine will just bid 4@H, such good clubs don't bode well, although opposite a singleton might not be too bad|pg|| nt|granguru: I said it just to see how many kibitzer are awake hearing us...|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: http://www.cbai.ie/camrose/standings.html for standings before the last round|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|nt|benjy: he can make this if he guesses the @C suit|pg|| nt|benjy: looks like a pure guess to me|pg|| nt|mmmakela: won't guess it is my bet|pg|| nt|petergill: @S2 = 4th best - so North lacks a five card suit - so North might have some club length, so North more likely to have @CQ - perhaps? Perhaps not?|pg|| nt|benjy: North looks like he is 4333 or two 4 card suits, assuming they are playing 4th highest|pg|| nt|benjy: but that makes no difference to the odds|pg|| nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16 in 1st and 2nd seat. |pg|| pc|dK|nt|Gerben42: 3@C = better than Lebensohl 2NT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Gerben42: good stop by N|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mmmakela: so S more likely to have 4c clubs and the Q|pg|| pc|s4|nt|othered1: can anyone decode this?|pg|| nt|petergill: I just printed out Peter Crouch and Glyn Liggins Convention Card - all 12 pages of it!|pg|| nt|granguru: EW abandoned the fight early|pg|| nt|chick: low diamond?|pg|| nt|granguru: probably it will not work after W openend the hand|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|granguru: lets see|pg|| nt|vugraph14: he heard u :-)|pg|| nt|granguru: At least S is thinking...|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|atlantajon: 2@c is a game frocing relay asking for more info...I think 2@h is good hand with @h shortness|pg|| nt|othered1: It's always nice to know what information is available to the players to see how they deal with it (and if system provides room they need to make accurate decisions)|pg|| nt|atlantajon: after that I think we have continued relay asks....|pg|| nt|stevedr: probably 4c-4s all pass|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|nt|atlantajon: that would end it Steve|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|atlantajon: 3@c..control of clubs...3@s first round....4@c re-ask.....4@d first and second|pg|| pc|s2|nt|benjy: i know it all Peter so you don't need it|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|ybob: Hi Y´all :)|pg|| nt|didev: hi Rob|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hmmm, now they can't check up on keycards|pg|| nt|atlantajon: hola roberto|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hello :-)|pg|| nt|othered1: 5@C is natural?|pg|| nt|atlantajon: must be|pg|| nt|othered1: odd, if south has been the relayer|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I agree|pg|| nt|atlantajon: pass or XX would be the responces over 4@hX...pass confirms stiff...XX shows void|pg|| nt|ybob: is 2@H any min hand without 4@H ?|pg|| pc|s7|nt|petergill: South has to be very careful NOT to ask for a diamond switch - tricky!|pg|| pc|sT|nt|atlantajon: good choice|pg|| nt|othered1: Looks like south made the right decision. I wonder what were the key considerations|pg|| nt|atlantajon: get out of an auction that has gone astray...as soon as you are in a playable place|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I think the response to 4@hX threw him|pg|| nt|ybob: 4@H X ; pass no control , bid = 2º control , XX first control|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yes|pg|| nt|othered1: How do you know a relay auction has gone astray, unless partner has made an impossible bid.|pg|| nt|stevedr: lol|pg|| nt|atlantajon: but I think that he already knew about the stiff...as I think 2@h showed Non-min with heart shortness|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I think he knew partner had made the impossible bid with 5@c|pg|| nt|atlantajon: choices, if the stiff is known, are pass showing stiff....XX showing void|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 2@H was @S and a minor 3@S was short @H 4@D was min or exactly singl @H 5@C nat|pg|| nt|othered1: Thank you!|pg|| nt|atlantajon: thanks|pg|| nt|didev: must leave- good evening all|pg|| nt|atlantajon: you are great frederic :)|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: West had in the same problem|pg|| nt|granguru: Fortunatelly I didnt bet that Coke|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|Gerben42: declarer needed to play @S first to break EW communications|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|Gerben42: still not easy to guess @D|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|benjy: down 1|pg|| pc|h5|nt|petergill: @H2 was encouraging. even = encouraging is how NS play their first discard. |pg|| pc|h2|nt|mmmakela: good def|pg|| nt|petergill: Many Souths would wrongly have asked for a diamond switch. John Carroll did well to work out that a heart switch will always beat 1NT, whereas a diamond switch might not. |pg|| nt|petergill: Of such things are winners made, at bridge. |pg|| nt|benjy: well, if he had pitched a @C then wouldn't south had switched to a @H?|pg|| pc|hK|nt|vugraph35: W is thinking|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|benjy: suggesting equalish holdings in the reds?|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| mc|8|nt|benjy: north rather|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQJ6H843DAKJ6CT74,SA8742HQ5DT754CA2,S5HAK972DQ982C963,SKT93HJT6D3CKQJ85|sv|n|nt|stoffers: yes, 2@s is too much..|pg|| nt|andersk: ty:)|pg|| nt|geot: as we have pointed out a few times now:)|pg|| nt|stoffers: another question about the hand: is 2NT invitational opposite a 2@s bid?|pg|| nt|geot: he bid what was to make: 2S|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|stoffers: all about cashing out vs 4@s here|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|geot: men de spilte fint ...og tøft, og når vi var direkte dårlige blir det slakt:)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|stoffers: jaha? :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: sry to Geir Brekka that one he he|pg|| nt|stoffers: Kaninen kalle|pg|| mb|3D|an|invitt|nt|geot: 4 card overcall red ag green by Strøm, anyone for that one?|pg|| nt|stoffers: not my style, but may have its advantages somthimes yes|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|geot: not my style either, but worked ok this time, pd has support, and therfore able to bid hearts....but now they are to high |pg|| nt|geot: can Mathisen pass it? he opened with 10hcps|pg|| nt|geot: is Moen thinking? no...|pg|| nt|stoffers: Snorre Aalberg is writing about the championship and some other stuff here: http://www.kristiansandbk.org/|pg|| nt|geot: Mathisen is thinking...and will bid 4S...I bet|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|geot: oh wd BM|pg|| nt|geot: so this 4c overcall went wrong, even if pd had nice support singelton, and AK in a suit.....|pg|| pc|d9|nt|geot: = not to be recommended|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|stoffers: may go for 800 now, should hav ducked the first heart|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|geot: yes looks like 800|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|stoffers: i think mathiesen is more nervous than tøndel right now :)|pg|| nt|andersk: I dont think so, he knowes tøndel have @H Q|pg|| nt|stoffers: but not 4 trumps...atleast he was quite nervous this could make when he saw dummy :)|pg|| nt|andersk: and South haveing AKJ in @D @S QJ so that will probably make it down 2 for sure|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|c8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cA|nt|geot: now thre club tricks and a heart ruff|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|geot: 1100?|pg|| nt|andersk: wouldnt @S be better|pg|| nt|andersk: ?|pg|| nt|geot: no 800:)|pg|| nt|andersk: before @C at all|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|nt|andersk: can disk a club in dummy then|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|mc|7|nt|andersk: 13 IMP for heimdal|pg|| nt|geot: Heimdal need one more imp to get the maximum, 25VP|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQJ6H843DAKJ6CT74,SA8742HQ5DT754CA2,S5HAK972DQ982C963,SKT93HJT6D3CKQJ85|sv|n|nt|granguru: S thought but N was the declarer!|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: surprised he didnt get that right, but made little difference|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Smirnov had to decide if the @DJ was from QJ or from AJ|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|petergill: Since South can calculate that a heart switch will ALWAYS defeat 1NT, even if it gives declarer a cheap trick with @HK, South should take charge and demand the heart switch. Good ...|pg|| nt|petergill: defence. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: E must find a bid now|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: Probably get a @C lead and only make 10|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yep|pg|| nt|ybob: 1@D = 11/15 ?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: seems to me if it's from AJ, why not play small?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: @DT to Q, @H return and dummy is endplayed|pg|| nt|garden2005: dwa równolegle rozgrywane mecze, wynik który widaæ aktualnie w impach pochodzi tylko z jednego meczu (transmitowanego)|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|nt|stevedr: y|pg|| nt|atlantajon: must be..|pg|| nt|othered1: a transfer bid at the 4-level got north to 4@H in the other room, avoiding the @C lead|pg|| nt|galadriel: UCCLE need a few bigger swings though|pg|| pc|h6|nt|mmmakela: saved by S|pg|| nt|garden2005: impy z obu meczów po ka¿dych 16tu rozdaniach zostan¹ przeliczone na VP ... i zsumowane|pg|| pc|h8|nt|atlantajon: more than a few....:)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|boltonian2: S seems to have taken a view|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|benjy: i cant stand X with the south hand|pg|| pc|h4|nt|benjy: if you are going to bid then surely 1NT is right|pg|| nt|petergill: John Carroll was opposite a Passed Hand, so he might conceivably have passed out 1@S. |pg|| nt|chick: don't see anything in their cc about canape|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|petergill: The Irish style is to get in there and bid a lot, do lots of t/o dbl's, not a winner this time....|pg|| nt|mmmakela: pass seems best ag passed pd w 4333|pg|| nt|benjy: and he will pay for his protection as this looks like it will make|pg|| nt|petergill: Would everyone have opened 1@S?|pg|| nt|mmmakela: little to win but lots to lose|pg|| nt|benjy: 100% 1@S|pg|| nt|benjy: do you think you are worth a game force?|pg|| nt|benjy: and you will never get all of your suits across opening 2@C|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 1@S for me too|pg|| nt|garden2005: ktr po 1BA = 10+ bez krótkoœci w kolorze starszym|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|nt|petergill: After 3 passes, and thus with a huge chance of being passed out, I would have opened 2@C, because all my suits can then be conveniently bid, i.e 2@C does not destroy our auction. |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|benjy: As a spec points out a @C lead would have given declarer a lot of problems|pg|| nt|petergill: 2@C - 2x - 2@S - 2NT or 3x - 3@H - 3x - 4@D - I have bid all my suits, and shown my strength. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: playing 4c majs might consider 2 @C|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|mc|9|nt|benjy: well if pd bids your void you might well opt for 3NT|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAKH95DAJ764CA763,ST965HAQJ74DK98C4,SQJ82H3DT52CKT982,S743HKT862DQ3CQJ5|sv|e|nt|stoffers: and my guess is that they will get it!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: would not surprise me. But Stavanger won 20 imps quickly in start of second half|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|geot: brb|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c8|nt|andersk: they play wioth bridgemate, and type results direct into a PC. So If the board is played at table 2, scoores are updated 15-30 sec after it is finished on website! Not often we get ...|pg|| nt|andersk: results that fast! here is the link for running scoores: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|hT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAKH95DAJ764CA763,ST965HAQJ74DK98C4,SQJ82H3DT52CKT982,S743HKT862DQ3CQJ5|sv|e|nt|benjy: Yes, it would have defeated the contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: Starting to see some results now, the 5 imps is from board 1|pg|| mb|1N|nt|boltonian2: dont agree with the double I am afraid|pg|| nt|granguru: dont agree with S double|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1@C = Polish @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|atlantajon: anyone know about 2@s...I have used it as a minor preempt...but with 4@h's?|pg|| nt|ybob: weak 1 minor ?|pg|| nt|stevedr: 6-4|pg|| nt|atlantajon: if so...it gives up on too many hands that @h's are the better place to place|pg|| nt|granguru: it is usually wrong to ask for suit(s) if you have a one-suited hand|pg|| nt|vugraph153: ciekawe czy ktos z kibicow domysla sie skad wziela sie ta nazwa|pg|| mb|p|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 170, IRELAND 161, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 110, N-IRELAND 82 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 10 20 IRL **** SCO 19 11 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 12 18 WAL***|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: England misguesed the hearts on Bd 1 in 6NT, so Ireland are getting closer to England's lead in the overall standings. |pg|| nt|granguru: the x and a second round suit normally shows a Gosh hand...|pg|| nt|granguru: from 17 up|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|chick: They play transfer responses over 1C (presumably the same over 1C X?)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|petergill: Thanks diumraid|pg|| nt|boltonian2: think this will end in 3N|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|atlantajon: this is a good place|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 3 @C was @S and 3N 6 @D and 4 @H|pg|| nt|atlantajon: you were right Steve|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: was not 6-4 but 6 @D and maybe 4 @H never @S|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d2|nt|petergill: For the website, go to www.cbai.ie/camrose - it has the scores up to Round 8. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: another coffee board :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: means: you can get coffee / tea if you like|pg|| nt|vugraph35: no one is drinking coffee/tea at the table :(|pg|| pc|hK|nt|benjy: what is north thinking about? Doubling?|pg|| nt|benjy: that would be madness|pg|| nt|Gerben42: not even Alex? hmm...|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I was wondering too :)|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|othered1: This is just an exercise in taking top tricks, likely 9 of them|pg|| nt|mmmakela: at pairs dbl tempting|pg|| pc|h2|nt|boltonian2: but maybe not|pg|| nt|boltonian2: probably wise|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ybob: the best def but cant defeat |pg|| nt|othered1: with 4-3 @C break, it's easy|pg|| nt|galadriel: Good try by EW|pg|| nt|Gerben42: after the @C ruff, declarer likely plays @HAK so amounts to same thing|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c8|pc|hT|nt|benjy: as long as the defense refrain from playing on @D this will not make|pg|| nt|petergill: The slightly lucky 5 imps to Ireland on Bd 2 makes the contest even closer, allowing for England's lead before this match. |pg|| nt|benjy: J of @C must be right here|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|benjy: declarer cannot have the Ace on this auction|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|petergill: England would right now be about 6 VP's ahead of Ireland overall, and England have the tougher last round match later today. |pg|| pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|cK|nt|benjy: no hope for declarer now|pg|| nt|petergill: looks very much like -1. |pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|petergill: Neat underlead of @CA, a logical play after West's club discard. |pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 127, CBAI 110, N-IRELAND 81 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 9 21 IRL **** SCO 20 10 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 12 18 WAL***|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SK876HQTDQJ92CT72,S95H98652DA8754C3,SAJT4HJ73DT3CA954,SQ32HAK4DK6CKQJ86|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: partscoor in @H ew|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|stoffers: 3@h is forcing|pg|| nt|geot: but now E/W may end up in game?|pg|| mb|p|nt|andersk: I think they will|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: an imps to Stavanger|pg|| pc|dT|nt|stoffers: they play every bid at hte 3 level as natural forcing, so cant sign off|pg|| nt|stoffers: have to play 2NT then|pg|| nt|andersk: I agree with that|pg|| nt|geot: Livgård (N) opened a third seat 1S in CR. Not always the best to buy the contract at both tables. As we have seen earlier in this round|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|geot: will cash spades now|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|stoffers: its a question of wich is the best aproach after rebidding 2NT ofcouce, but i think it all has ups and downs, so as long as you and your partner play the same system you are ok :)|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|nt|geot: agree Christer. But they played the same system, but not ok this time:)|pg|| nt|geot: Down to 41 imp lead now, and many boards to go|pg|| nt|geot: 51|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SK876HQTDQJ92CT72,S95H98652DA8754C3,SAJT4HJ73DT3CA954,SQ32HAK4DK6CKQJ86|sv|b|mb|p|nt|othered1: UCCCLE has now won imps on 5 consecutive boards, but has not dented the BCOB lead. |pg|| nt|vugraph35: for Round Robin 7 there is an appeal from Switzerland vs. England|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|atlantajon: it hard to come back...losing double digits and only winning single's|pg|| nt|petergill: 1@D = 4+ @D, 10-16 unbalanced |pg|| nt|petergill: 3@D weak |pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: Bold 3@H by Crouch. |pg|| nt|benjy: would you all bid on the west cards?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|atlantajon: there are 6 to take for N/S....|pg|| nt|mmmakela: that's heroic|pg|| pc|c2|nt|galadriel: Looks like a flat board|pg|| nt|mmmakela: never|pg|| nt|chick: pretty frisky with 12 points and a ragged spade suit|pg|| nt|boltonian2: W may pass, N will be very happy|pg|| nt|vugraph35: England can lose or win some IMPs|pg|| nt|vugraph35: our next match will start at 13:30|pg|| nt|vugraph35: who will play will be a little surprise :)|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Gerben42: good lead, threatens the simple plan of ruffing some @C in dummy|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|dT|nt|galadriel: albeit in different contracts|pg|| nt|atlantajon: unless they try to clear spade suit|pg|| pc|dK|nt|benjy: i think i might pass as my @Ds look like they might be in the wrong place, although 1@D is not natural i think it is very close|pg|| pc|d2|nt|galadriel: maybe not...|pg|| nt|petergill: West is a passed hand, and his partner has 2 diamonds at most, so 3@H cannot really backfire too much, I think. |pg|| nt|petergill: unless partner takes it as fit-showing!!!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but leading twice towards @DKQ will work also|pg|| nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|mmmakela: excactly|pg|| nt|benjy: even if he does, surely 4@H is the call|pg|| pc|hA|nt|atlantajon: this will tell|pg|| nt|boltonian2: maybe not for too long, looks to be 1 off?|pg|| nt|granguru: S is glad to see the @H10 I expect|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 2@Hs, 1@S, @S ruff, @d|pg|| nt|boltonian2: hmm, maybe not|pg|| pc|hT|nt|atlantajon: score it up|pg|| nt|benjy: Pd can always correct|pg|| nt|petergill: 3@H alerted by West as fit-showing, but not thought to be by West, I think. |pg|| nt|benjy: One for the system agreements team|pg|| nt|vugraph8: He thought it was fit showing|pg|| nt|petergill: @SA?????|pg|| nt|petergill: no, not at all. |pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/index.html|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so this is 1st vs 2nd in the group|pg|| nt|Gerben42: only 1 team will play the final from each group|pg|| pc|h2|nt|petergill: West feeling not too good, as his diamonds turn to dust. |pg|| nt|petergill: Reluctant to open up the club suit in case declarer has @CAQ, North switches to his heart. |pg|| nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins is one of England's greatest players. |pg|| nt|benjy: this will surely be another big swing to the Irish|pg|| nt|mmmakela: after @SA he'll swith to clubs|pg|| nt|petergill: England has fielded five pairs so far in the 2008 Camrose. Ireland have used three pairs. |pg|| nt|benjy: I am afraid i have to leave, enjoy the rest of the show everyone (COme on England!)|pg|| nt|petergill: Win @H9, spade to king, then what? That is what Glyn is thinking. But what else can he do?|pg|| nt|petergill: Bye Ben|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 2 now lavinthal|pg|| nt|chick: has to return @D for his ruff|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|nt|Gerben42: Ireland is well ahead in the other group|pg|| nt|Gerben42: a win for Ireland would be very important for them, since their surprise medal 2 years ago in Warsaw, they have had few good results|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the German Juniors had a good start yesterday, but couldn't save it|pg|| nt|Gerben42: and the next European Championship is soon|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|galadriel: At last...a double figure swing|pg|| nt|boltonian2: well, it is off, now|pg|| nt|chick: well, not if decl finesses the club :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: yes, not been Patersons match so far|pg|| pc|c7|nt|galadriel: Should N switch to a top @H?|pg|| nt|galadriel: Maybe not so easy|pg|| nt|ybob: i open N hand 1@H in 3º with any system|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yes...so do I|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I want a heart lead|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|petergill: This Ireland team have done lots of barnstorming finishes - the 2008 Yeh Bros Cup a month ago, the last European Teams Championship in Warsaw, will this be another big Irish ...|pg|| nt|petergill: finish?|pg|| nt|petergill: To ruff or not to ruff?|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES **** ENGLAND 179, IRELAND 179, WALES 168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 123, N-IRELAND 100 **** INDIV MATCHES ***** CBAI 18 12 ENG ***** N-IRL 15 15 ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: IRE ***** WAL 15 15 SCOT *****|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|petergill: North is worried that declarer surely has @CAQ for the jump to 4@S. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: @H K was a bad play, shd see the situation|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far 15 average for German Juniors is still very good I think, very strong field|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|c9|pg|| nt|granguru: @S8 asked for a @D|pg|| pc|dA|nt|petergill: Hence this defence. |pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|boltonian2: it was probably off anyhow|pg|| nt|granguru: which was obvious|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|nt|petergill: the time has come for a club - now. |pg|| pc|sA|nt|petergill: @CA to block the clubs might have been better. |pg|| nt|petergill: South has to infer that North's last spade is the jack, not a small one |pg|| pc|h4|nt|petergill: otherwise the play would have gone differently |pg|| nt|Gerben42: declarer played this one well for an overtrick|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s8|mc|6|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQ8HAT7DAQJ4CKJ96,ST6542H9652D95C53,SAK73HKQ4D832CT82,SJ9HJ83DKT76CAQ74|sv|o|mb|p|nt|andersk: this would most likely be a std 3 NT|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|geot: As we said earlier every imp count here, it is not a knock out match, and six more matches after this|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|xyz|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|stoffers: 2@d = xyz|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|geot: Like Strøm's bidding her, it could have been a club slam, but now he should give up|pg|| nt|stoffers: 2@c is either a sign of in diamonds, or some invitational hand, 2@d is GF|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stoffers: after 1@s or 1NT from N)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|geot: Stavanger will score one more imp here, Moen will take 12 I think|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|geot: 2 imps sry|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|dK|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQ8HAT7DAQJ4CKJ96,ST6542H9652D95C53,SAK73HKQ4D832CT82,SJ9HJ83DKT76CAQ74|sv|o|nt|petergill: hence South finds the best play of another club, not a heart. |pg|| nt|boltonian2: even after the @C switch|pg|| nt|boltonian2: hmm, another interesting one|pg|| nt|granguru: EW makes 3@D|pg|| nt|boltonian2: NS dont seem to be able to make much of anything|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: when Irish eyes are smiling ... beware the English |pg|| nt|boltonian2: although maybe they can make 3@S if they read the position right|pg|| nt|boltonian2: was never likely to be played at the 3 level this hand though|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: 4 @S now?|pg|| nt|granguru: 3N can be made if the defense dont cash @Cs immediately |pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mmmakela: lame|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@S does not make. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: Germany was well ahead of England before the match, but now its getting closer|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1NT = forcing NT|pg|| mb|3N|nt|petergill: Good stop by the English. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Gerben42: 3@C is in danger with the bad trump break, but maybe he just manages it|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|atlantajon: good stop|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| nt|petergill: Only three apparent losers, but only 8 or 9 tricks in reality. |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mmmakela: at least 3 and look at W's opening,dead minimum|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|boltonian2: @S switch is very obvious here unfortuntaely|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| nt|petergill: At Trick 2, South's @C2 was suit preference for diamonds - neat, eh?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|nt|mmmakela: in the long run 4 @S THE bid|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this sinks the contract because now a @D can no longer be ruffed|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAT8HK542DK74C975,SQ975HQJT3D95CJT4,SK3H97DAJ832CK832,SJ642HA86DQT6CAQ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|andersk: N hand is 1 @D opening hand IMO|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: 41-46 e 22|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|geot: I wud have expected Moen to balance here, not vul|pg|| nt|andersk: what is the problem with 2 @D?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|andersk: 10 tables braodcasting now, over 2000 specs:)|pg|| pc|h6|nt|andersk: and it is labourday, 2 pm:)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d9|nt|andersk: probably +1|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|andersk: and 6 IMP |pg|| pc|c3|nt|geot: Mathisen does well now|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|dJ|nt|andersk: missed a trick, most likely +110 and 5 IMP|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|andersk: @H A @S|pg|| nt|geot: yes, nice:)|pg|| nt|geot: he will get no heart loser then, north must give ruff and discard|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|geot: ah well|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAT8HK542DK74C975,SQ975HQJT3D95CJT4,SK3H97DAJ832CK832,SJ642HA86DQT6CAQ6|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|atlantajon: nothing but pain here for N/S|pg|| nt|petergill: Discipline by the English. No rushes of blood even after the disaster on Bd 7|pg|| nt|mmmakela: N has normally dbl stop in hearts|pg|| mb|r|mb|1H|nt|atlantajon: or E/w for that matter|pg|| mb|2C|nt|petergill: 20-22|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: looks like lose a total of 300 for UCCLE....-100 other table and -200 here...does anyone see an 8th trick?|pg|| nt|petergill: East's values look too "soft" to try for slam. |pg|| nt|petergill: no aces, no tens, 4333, junk. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: most wd still look if 6@H might be on|pg|| nt|chick: 3N will be very lucky for N, E will likely lead a spade and then W with all the entries can't return them|pg|| pc|s4|nt|chick: maybe Rees figured that out :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: yes this looks lucky on many levels, hearts breaking aswell|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Gerben42: 2@C two-way checkback|pg|| nt|Gerben42: N has invited with 5@H|pg|| pc|s9|nt|galadriel: No..it looks hopeless|pg|| nt|galadriel: With both hands balanced 24 hcp not enough for game|pg|| nt|chick: needs care here, the Q@C is his only entry to the hearts if W holds up|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|petergill: 10 = either J10xx(x) or HJ10x(x)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|galadriel: I can understand them bidding it though|pg|| nt|othered1: There are many different defenses to multi-type openings. EW's here wasn't effective. Others might have gotten EW a plus (on defense)|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 2 @D show 6 @S or @S and a minor never @H|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I agree.....the system I use...would call for a pass with the west hand...then when it gets back to me @@ 2@s...I think I have a clear pass|pg|| nt|atlantajon: ok...thanks|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|granguru: @H|pg|| nt|granguru: oopps|pg|| nt|chick: thanks John @H|pg|| nt|granguru: was private intended|pg|| nt|granguru: now everyone knows|pg|| nt|chick: hehe|pg|| pc|s2|nt|petergill: Looks like 12 tricks. |pg|| pc|sA|nt|chick: I appreciate the helpful suggestion :)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|othered1: Mine would double 2@D on west's hand. but it might not be the best against this particular multi's possibilities, all of which involve @S type hands.|pg|| nt|atlantajon: agreed..|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|granguru: yw|pg|| nt|chick: tough choice for rees ... if he ducks in hopes his pard has another spade, he won't get his spade tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: If he takes ..What should he continue?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|atlantajon: this might get deeper if west doesn't cash out|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|petergill: England are actually ahead, leading Ireland by 19 VPs coming into this match, and by 7 VPs right now, until Bd 7 is scored when it will be closer. |pg|| pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *** ENGLAND 182, IRELAND 180, WALES 170, SCOTLAND 136, CBAI 120, N-IRELAND 99 *** INDIV MATCHES *** CBAI 15 15 ENG ***** N-IRL 14 16 IRE ***** ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: WAL 17 13 SCOT *****|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|petergill: Will be 11 tricks. |pg|| pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|petergill: He couldn't risk the heart finesse earlier in case South had all the diamonds. |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraph8: Break|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4ST92HT9632D73CQJ4,S65HKJDQJ652C9865,SKJ8743HA4D94CK72,SAQHQ875DAKT8CAT3|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|geot: he scores 80, and lead up to 54, lacking 5 for the 25VPs|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|an|preemptive|mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: @H lead for a flat board|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|dQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h4|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|geot: so no flat board, Mathisen makes 11 tricks, and 1 imp|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4ST92HT9632D73CQJ4,S65HKJDQJ652C9865,SKJ8743HA4D94CK72,SAQHQ875DAKT8CAT3|sv|b|nt|petergill: Sorry, I missed that - he did make 12 tricks in the ending, well done |pg|| nt|mmmakela: cig br brb|pg|| nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 171, IRELAND 160, WALES 149, SCOTLAND 125, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 83 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 11 19 IRL **** SCO 18 12 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 11 19 WAL***|pg|| nt|petergill: Ordinary results by the Irish EW on Bds 4 and 5 put England ahead by 11 VPs. But Ireland have the easier draw in the last 32 board match, later today after this match ends. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: last board here, thanks to our excellent operator in Bonn, Merle Schwede!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: next round in 1 hour|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3N|nt|galadriel: Should be a straightforward 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Gerben42: Dbl asks for @S lead|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|petergill: On Bd 9, 6@S or 6NT is somewhere around 50% chance, I guess. So the Irish EW, who will have a strong club style of auction, might bid it. |pg|| nt|petergill: 2@C perhasps a transfer to diamonds - I'|pg|| nt|petergill: m guessing. |pg|| nt|chick: diumraid has been popping around from room to room keeping us all up to date on the scores for this whole event. The next time he pops in, we should all give him a big thank you!|pg|| nt|vugraph14: its a long walk between these rooms|pg|| nt|Gerben42: still only 1 down|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but -1 is 8 imps for Germany and almost a draw in this very quiet set of boards|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mmmakela: so why not 3 @D?|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|Gerben42: 2@S 2@C and @DA|pg|| pc|h6|nt|chick: Hi Brid! You're sure doing a great job as operator, keeping up with all of this :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|petergill: Even if NS don't lead clubs, I think North's 65 of spades will stop this contract from making. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: -1|pg|| pc|s3|nt|petergill: What would you lead? A trump? A club? |pg|| nt|boltonian2: well this will enable a @C discard|pg|| pc|sA|nt|boltonian2: although, @C return might make things awkward|pg|| pc|s9|nt|galadriel: W leads the major without the A|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|Gerben42: now must be careful|pg|| pc|hK|nt|petergill: Might be -2, the cards lie badly for declarer. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: must cash @DA next|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @SQ I mean|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @SQ was a "take it or lose it"|pg|| nt|vugraph35: see you in 1 hour :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|galadriel: creating a 9th trick immediately|pg|| nt|petergill: 1@S - 1NT (5-11) - 2@C was 4+ cards in either minor|pg|| nt|mmmakela: ok|pg|| pc|dK|nt|petergill: Then 2@D by East showed 4 or 5 diamonds - hence the leap to 4@D. |pg|| pc|d7|nt|petergill: Sorry aboutt he delay, I had to wade through 12 pages of Convention Card to find that. |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h3|nt|atlantajon: my choice...but 3 tricks later than I would have|pg|| nt|petergill: 5@D was mildly aggressive, but had the lie of the cards been friendly, we would be complimenting EW on bidding well to the making game. |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s8|nt|granguru: posponing @S finesse till the end|pg|| pc|d8|nt|chick: trying to get a count, I suppose|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c2|nt|petergill: Liggins went for the spade finesse in a desperate attempt to make 5@D, once trumps did not split. |pg|| nt|vugraph14: Is a big board giving it a lot of thought|pg|| nt|granguru: @S10 gives declarer a 2 way finesse. Without it this hand would have been over long ago|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|granguru: Knew too much|pg|| pc|cA|nt|chick: ah well |pg|| nt|granguru: could count more @S on S hand|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ92HQJT32DT864C5,SA43HA84DKJ973C86,SKT875HK9DAQ5CKT7,SJ6H765D2CAQJ9432|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|3C|nt|andersk: good result for Stavanger in closed room!|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: 400 is a strong result! 3NT totally depending on the finesse in clubs. If it loses it is not so fun, expecially if it loses second time:)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|geot: pick up for Stavanger here|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|s6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|cK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ92HQJT32DT864C5,SA43HA84DKJ973C86,SKT875HK9DAQ5CKT7,SJ6H765D2CAQJ9432|sv|o|nt|boltonian2: well played for a possible big loss|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|boltonian2: 4@H looks good|pg|| nt|boltonian2: may end in 3NT by E tho|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|petergill: He needed four spade tricks, so finessing the spade was the best play. |pg|| nt|petergill: 1Nt 14-16|pg|| mb|3N|nt|petergill: 2@C Stayman|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: Paterson-Short play a multi 2D that only shows a weak major, no strong option |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|mmmakela: thought S would pass|pg|| nt|petergill: Passing 2@D - cute!|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|galadriel: 1NT shows 5c @D|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|mmmakela: what else if u choose to bid 2 @C|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|petergill: I would have tried 2@H over 2@D, expecting partner to convert to 2@S if 3-2 in the majors. |pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|petergill: However, with the singleton queen, I think your idea of passing 1NT is probably best. |pg|| pc|cJ|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 124, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 84 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 9 21 IRL **** SCO 17 13 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 12 18 WAL***|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *** ENGLAND 182, IRELAND 180, WALES 168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 120, N-IRELAND 99 *** INDIV MATCHES *** CBAI 15 15 ENG ***** N-IRL 14 16 IRE ***** ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: WAL 15 15 SCOT *****|pg|| nt|granguru: tks diumraid for all your effort|pg|| nt|boltonian2: S had little choice but to hope partner had the A@S, or Q at least, without it he knew the @Cs were running|pg|| nt|boltonian2: thank you|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ72HAQ9DJ92CK943,SKT8HKT52D5CQJT86,S643HJ764DAKQT64C,SAJ95H83D873CA752|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: Normal bidding, or maybe 2NT invite is enough? ...as happened in CR, but of course N must raise to 3NT with that diamond suit|pg|| nt|vugraph116: ew hands are switched here|pg|| pc|s8|mc|8|nt|vugraph116: doesn't seem to matter since he went down one|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQ72HAQ9DJ92CK943,SKT8HKT52D5CQJT86,S643HJ764DAKQT64C,SAJ95H83D873CA752|sv|n|nt|petergill: so the Irish survived that little excursion into the 4-3 fit. |pg|| nt|petergill: Tommy Garvey and John Carroll have been in top form in this set, so far. |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yes, a difficult choice for Amsel|pg|| nt|galadriel: I sympathise with 1NT|pg|| nt|galadriel: You don't really want to pass out 1@S|pg|| mb|3N|nt|petergill: A bold preempt by Peter Crouch. |pg|| nt|chick: Kurbalija-Rees 2D shows either 6 diamonds or 5-5 minors|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: nice landing place|pg|| nt|ybob: win 2@H , lost 1NT|pg|| nt|petergill: a good idea as it happens, to push around an opponent who has a 19 count. |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h4|pc|cA|nt|petergill: North will surely bid 3@S. |pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|petergill: 3@S is doomed. Without the preemptive 3@D bid, NS would surely have gone plus on the board. |pg|| pc|sJ|nt|petergill: A spade to the six is surely not going to happen, in real life?|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|petergill: 1@D showed 5+! D or 4441, making the 3@D preempt easy to find, at the suitable vulnerability. |pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S72H63DJT653CAQ93,SK96HKQ84D987CK54,S83HAJT975DQ42CJ6,SAQJT54H2DAKCT872|sv|b|mb|2H|an|garbage multi|mb|4S|nt|andersk: 4 @S should be easy to bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: didnt even finish to type:)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|andersk: this hand wouldt take too long to play|pg|| nt|geot: a strange man I know suggest sml club lead:)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|andersk: :)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|s9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|nt|geot: So Stavanger won 11 imps on the possible slam on board 15|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S72H63DJT653CAQ93,SK96HKQ84D987CK54,S83HAJT975DQ42CJ6,SAQJT54H2DAKCT872|sv|b|nt|atlantajon: BCOB is going to Lap UCCLE if they are not careful|pg|| nt|petergill: Hi --- |pg|| nt|petergill: A little triumph for the English, their first one for a while. |pg|| nt|boltonian2: problem with pausing and not playing a club is that Short may have expected a @C switch straight away from a person that had the A@C|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|galadriel: This isn't the kind of board UCCLE are looking for|pg|| nt|mmmakela: w 3-3 majs maybe S shd just give up|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: on previous 3 @D |pg|| nt|petergill: Good thinking Markku, but highly risky - you might miss a vul game. |pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|petergill: I think playing @S10 from dummy would be a better play. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: despite the points playing strength wasn't good|pg|| nt|petergill: well, unless East plays the bare jack on it!|pg|| nt|petergill: Yes, and Qx in their suit was a good holding for defending. |pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|chick: The Camrose Trophy is competed for annually among the countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland under the auspices of the British Bridge League. The 1939 series ...|pg|| nt|chick: was not completed due to war. The Camrose re-started in 1946, so the series ending in March 2008 was the sixtiy-fifth. This makes the Camrose the most-played international bridge ...|pg|| nt|chick: series in the world.|pg|| pc|hT|nt|galadriel: Oh I thought they might get to @D |pg|| nt|atlantajon: I also|pg|| pc|sT|nt|galadriel: Seems no-one can bid @D naturally|pg|| nt|atlantajon: lol|pg|| pc|h3|nt|petergill: Perhaps John Carroll played a bit fast there. He wanted to be in dummy to take the club finesse. |pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 122, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 86 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 9 21 IRL **** SCO 15 15 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 9 21 WAL***|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|atlantajon: this time if they try to clear @h then its a maker|pg|| nt|petergill: If one thinks that @C7 is high, denying the king, then playing @CJ or @CQ from hand is better. |pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|petergill: I am being very picky - I can see all 52 cards and he can't, and he expected the opening bidder to have @CK. |pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|galadriel: We lost @C already now @Ds are on the way out|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|sK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|petergill: -200, it seems|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|dT|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 100|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SK6HK983DAK3CKJ85,S873HAT74DT875CA6,SAT954H62DJ4CQT92,SQJ2HQJ5DQ962C743|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: where declarer had to solve AD10 x x x x ag x x, wd, KJ was doubleton behind. Lead now only 36|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|geot: So this is the last board at this table, and Stavanger made a much better performance this last 16 boards|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|andersk: We give ouhr thanks to Norwegian bridge federation, Stavanger Bridge club, for these broadcast! Ouhr excellent operator, Jan Fjelberg. My fellow commentators, GeO Tislevoll, ...|pg|| nt|andersk: Christer kristoffersen, and all specs, with good comments! We are scedule to be back 4 pm local time,thats 1h 15 min from now....cya all|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|nt|stoffers: and ill hope im able to get 1l coke out from my keyboard in time!|pg|| nt|stoffers: see u all later|pg|| nt|geot: what seemed to be a total blitz ends with a 21-9 win to Heimdal. Tks for watching all of you, and welcome back. Bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SK6HK983DAK3CKJ85,S873HAT74DT875CA6,SAT954H62DJ4CQT92,SQJ2HQJ5DQ962C743|sv|o|nt|petergill: @S10 at Trick 1 and he would have gone -1, -100, I think. So no big deal. |pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|petergill: 2@S = 5+ spades, weak|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|petergill: 4@S = perhaps I am not so weak after all. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: doesn't look very weak to mee|pg|| nt|mmmakela: yet another bal to making game|pg|| nt|petergill: The Irish liking for bidding has helped EW reach two 4@S games now. |pg|| nt|petergill: North thinking of saving!|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|petergill: 5@D costs 300. |pg|| pc|cA|nt|petergill: Now he will safety play the spades, ace and another , for 420. |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|mmmakela: almost criminal weak 2 imo|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|chick: ugh, short found a great switch and paterson didn't follow through|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h9|nt|atlantajon: Looks like this is the last board for this session in the open room....thanks all|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SKJHKJT65DT62CT94,S82HAQ9DQ73CAKQ85,S93H84DKJ984CJ732,SAQT7654H732DA5C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|geot: Welcome back to Stavanger. The host team has a big task here, down by 60 imp half time|pg|| mb|2H|nt|geot: 16 boards to go, we have seen come backs before...:)|pg|| mb|d|nt|andersk: reamember this distr, GeO?|pg|| mb|p|an|2cards S|nt|andersk: odds to play @S suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: enclopedia of bridge says (If I dont reamember wrong): Hook first, and top play next (maybe that was AJT9xxx vs xx)|pg|| nt|geot: but here it is no big deal, 4S is no problem anyway|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|andersk: these days, they normally play @S A to find a stiff H|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|andersk: lets see if Tøndel has read that page inthe enclopedia|pg|| nt|geot: Now he will play spade A|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|andersk: @H hook and 12|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|geot: Much tougher decision in slam:)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SKJHKJT65DT62CT94,S82HAQ9DQ73CAKQ85,S93H84DKJ984CJ732,SAQT7654H732DA5C6|sv|n|nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|petergill: The 20 imps to Ireland on Bds 9 and 10 makes the overall scores very close now. |pg|| nt|vugraph14: Penultimate board here now |pg|| nt|chick: Thanks for a great job, Thomas @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk7: 15 and 16 in this room first; then comparisons from the closed room when we roll over to board 1|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Hello Anne, Ed and Dirk|pg|| nt|didev: hi|pg|| nt|atlantajon: Hello all|pg|| nt|Walddk7: and welcome to Jonathan Slaney from USA|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk7: 2@C weak with both majors we assume|pg|| nt|boltonian2: thanks|pg|| mb|p|nt|didev: agressive youngsters|pg|| nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *** ENGLAND 183, IRELAND 180, WALES 168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 119, N-IRELAND 99 *** INDIV MATCHES *** CBAI 14 16 ENG ***** N-IRL 14 16 IRE ***** ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: WAL 15 15 SCOT *****|pg|| mb|2N|nt|Walddk7: Maybe not since Cornelis went for hearts|pg|| nt|othered1: Wonder why the jump in the shorter suit?|pg|| nt|granguru: NS could have made 2@H|pg|| nt|boltonian2: i think S should bid 2@H|pg|| nt|vugraph14: If could not open it is it not dangerous to bid vul v non now?|pg|| nt|boltonian2: although, I would also open that hand|pg|| nt|chick: I dunno, broken suit vul|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mmmakela: 4 Hearts seems a lot|pg|| nt|petergill: England led by 19 VPs before this match, and are now losing 6-24 or 5-25. Bookies would say: Ireland 1.75, England 2.25, Wales 20.00 to win the Camrose now. |pg|| mb|p|nt|didev: prob conventional|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** IRELAND 166, ENGLAND 165, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 123, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 85 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 5 25 IRL **** SCO 16 14 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 9 21 WAL***|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|galadriel: Good afternoon all :-)|pg|| nt|atlantajon: Hello Anne|pg|| nt|didev: hi Anne|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: At those odds, the audience want to back England. |pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: EW can always makw 4 of a minor I think|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|galadriel: So good start for NS|pg|| nt|didev: yes prob more IMPs to BCOB|pg|| pc|c7|nt|atlantajon: correct 2@h and 1@s only|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|petergill: @HJ fooled someone - not the intended victim!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|othered1: I think their convention card (all 34 pages of it) says 2@C was 6+@H or 5+@H and m, or some other @H-related things.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAKHAJ72DQJ983C53,SQJT872H643DCAJ74,S9543HQ98DK62CQT9,S6HKT5DAT754CK862|sv|e|nt|henryb: Hello again|pg|| mb|2D|an|multi 6c maj or 24+|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|geot: Welcome to Henry Bethe from USA. Seems we have commentators for this round, bit of a struggle last round:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: South knows which hand W has. It ain't 24+|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: sure. East shows some kind of heart support with his 2S, if WEsts suit is there. |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|henryb: This will be hard to make|pg|| nt|geot: 3Nt is really tough, and will not work as diamonds are so bad|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| nt|henryb: I would guess seven and a half tricks|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s2|nt|geot: so 150 down then Henry, not vul:)?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|geot: I mean 75|pg|| nt|henryb: no 75 down|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|geot: good defence by Mathisen, denying entry to N, so diamonds cannot be played for finesse|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|henryb: possibly 3@h, 3@d, 1@c and 2@s|pg|| nt|henryb: but a club switch sets up 5 tricks for the defense|pg|| nt|geot: East knows West must have the club ace now, so he can switch to a club establishing his forth club |pg|| nt|geot: West has only QJ in spades, and opened red ag green|pg|| nt|geot: depends a bit on style of course|pg|| nt|vugraph116: East is thinking...|pg|| pc|c2|nt|geot: Mathisen will find out this, and play a club. |pg|| pc|c3|nt|geot: there you are...wd|pg|| nt|sybarra: welcome to Christer Kristoffersen |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|nt|geot: also good by Tøndel I think, to play low on first club...if East has only 3 clubs....to the King, transportation to West's in that case. Now they will cash out for one down|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|mc|8|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAKHAJ72DQJ983C53,SQJT872H643DCAJ74,S9543HQ98DK62CQT9,S6HKT5DAT754CK862|sv|e|nt|atlantajon: Nice @s grand here|pg|| nt|boltonian2: good pass then|pg|| nt|boltonian2: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: EW will bid quite a lot of @H to make life more difficult|pg|| nt|chick: another hand with 12 tricks, right after the opps cash their 2 aces :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mmmakela: ok last 1 ty all and see u later in the evening|pg|| nt|boltonian2: good sack in 5@D, but EW will make 5@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: That's not very many...|pg|| mb|1N|nt|othered1: actually not many @H at all. Has mutli struck again?|pg|| nt|boltonian2: small diamond to the K, followed by a small @S|pg|| nt|vugraph14: would win a prize|pg|| mb|p|nt|didev: world convention|pg|| nt|didev: @d and @s -strong hand|pg|| nt|atlantajon: 4@h?|pg|| nt|othered1: now north needs to find a forcing bid. Can he cue with only 3rd round control?|pg|| nt|didev: cornelis will be in the tank for a while|pg|| nt|galadriel: N would like to agree @S but force at the same time|pg|| nt|othered1: How about 5@S, 6H-7@S?|pg|| nt|galadriel: Sometimes bridge isn't that easy!|pg|| nt|petergill: that was 6 imps to England, possibly putting them 1 VP ahead of Ireland. |pg|| nt|boltonian2: certainly would|pg|| mb|p|nt|atlantajon: would 5@h confirm spades and ask for 2nd round to bid 6@s or would it be exclusion?|pg|| mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *** ENGLAND 183, IRELAND 182, WALES 167, SCOTLAND 139, CBAI 119, N-IRELAND 97 *** INDIV MATCHES *** CBAI 14 16 ENG ***** N-IRL 12 18 IRE ***** ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: WAL 14 16 SCOT *****|pg|| nt|chick: I'd start holding my cards closer :)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|othered1: That's why I like 5@S, no need for specific discussion and you can judge your way to 7 without risk of confusion.|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hope they can show voids over Blackwood|pg|| nt|didev: probably 4@d= @d and a major ; not clear yhat it was @s|pg|| nt|othered1: I like 5@S here, too, then 6@H, 7@S. Honestly|pg|| nt|othered1: Is making a slam invitation in a suit to be found later really playable?|pg|| pc|s6|nt|petergill: 1NT artificial, 15+, forcing!!|pg|| nt|boltonian2: well, Rees doesnt need too much for 6@H|pg|| nt|granguru: you could get another prize putting the @SK|pg|| nt|boltonian2: think he will probably pass|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|petergill: A cute way to stop in 2@D!|pg|| nt|boltonian2: who is putting up these prizes?|pg|| nt|granguru: Bridge godess|pg|| nt|boltonian2: I would donate one, probably not a very good one, but hey...|pg|| nt|granguru: Are you thinking on something special?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|galadriel: would 5@S now ask for @H control?|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I would think it would Anne|pg|| nt|vugraph14: sorry loo break|pg|| pc|d2|nt|boltonian2: well, they're in dublin, pint of guinness seems appropriate...|pg|| nt|granguru: Like a honor sensor..|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|galadriel: I think that was a real problem for N|pg|| pc|h2|nt|boltonian2: its all over, i'm safe|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|granguru: not enough liquor in Dublin?|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|petergill: This is the last board at this table. Thanks to our operator, to the CBAI and other organisers in Dublin, to Markku and Ben. |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|nt|vugraph14: see you all in 30 mins|pg|| nt|boltonian2: having been playing the last time it was in dublin, it is maybe debatable|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h7|nt|petergill: Bds 12,13 and 14 are yet to be played at the other table. England play CBAI (Ireland's 2 team) and Ireland play N Ireland in the last 32 board match. |pg|| pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg|| pg||