vg|2009 USBC USA2 Final,Segment 4 of 6,I,46,60,Fleisher,98,Nickell,82|
rs|4HW-1,2HW+1,4HE-1,4HEx-1,3DN+1,1NS+1,4SS=,4SS=,4SE=,2CN+2,2HN+2,4HN=,6DW=,5DW+1,2DN=,3CW-2,4HE-2,4SWx-2,2SE-2,2DW+1,4DWx-3,3SS+1,2HN-1,3NW=,2SE=,2SE=,4DW-1,3NE=,1NN=,3CN+2|
pn|Weichsel,Zia,Ekeblad,Hamman,Meckstroth,Rubin,Rodwell,Granovette|pg||
qx|o46|st||md|4SQT952H94DATC8743,SAJ73HAQ653D97CQ2,SK86H872DKJ532CA6,S4HKJTDQ864CKJT95|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: our operator is Jan Martel; hi Jan|pg||
mb|1H|nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg||
nt|jtr: Thanks Hedy  Hello people|pg||
nt|barnets: hi there all|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch all  vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C!|an|Drury|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|at least OK opening bid|mb|p|nt|daman: Welcome back everyone|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@d shows a normal minimum opening i imagine|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 2@H in closed|pg||
nt|jtr: Hamman makes a game try  "Zia, try and make it":)|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS system card: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=418&pid=301|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "2@d says I don't mind if you make a move or something; 2@h would have said go away"|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|hedyg: EW system card: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=497&pid=203|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|barnets: looks like st cam just concede a club|pg||
nt|xenya: need to switch to @Ss to beat this|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|barnets: west can conced a club|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jtr: No entry|pg||
nt|jtr: They duck @c and force dummy|pg||
nt|barnets: yes after the spade swich|pg||
nt|jtr: Cross ruff will bring the defence's @h pips into play|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia asks about leads in the middle of the hand "coded tens & 9s; UDCA"|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jtr: He will realise taking this is giveing up|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jtr: Great defence|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|d9|nt|jtr: Ruff and force again|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|barnets: will lose a trump promotion|pg||
nt|barnets: when south ruffs a diamond with the @H9|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad studying - I think that the spade ten was ambiguous so he may be worried that Zia has the Q|pg||
nt|jtr: So North can make two trump tricks with 872:)|pg||
pc|s8|nt|Vugraphu1: But he got it right|pg||
nt|daman: hrrrmmm|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|hK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h9|nt|barnets: south beed north to have @H8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|barnets: needs|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|hedyg: Weichsel wide awake|pg||
nt|jtr: North could have told him earlier|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c46|st||md|4SQT952H94DATC8743,SAJ73HAQ653D97CQ2,SK86H872DKJ532CA6,S4HKJTDQ864CKJT95|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: a meltdown in the play apparently|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Raghavan and Martin|pg||
nt|raghavan: Wc all kibits|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hi Ellen|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: the 10 was unlucky|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S!|an|could be canape|nt|gavin: west has to stop low|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: here is a slam im sure they will get to|pg||
nt|gavin: lets see if ew have some sort of lebensohl agreement here|pg||
nt|gavin: some people play 2nt here says i have a bad hand, some play it scrambling|pg||
nt|caitlin: not uncommon over this double to have such an agreement|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C on NS, 3NT down|pg||
nt|gowdy: @S and a minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: and e/w cannot compete against this|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 6NT by north the top spot, but 6@D also excellent|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back, drinks for all on me :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict 4h|pg||
mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: assuming they have some kind of two way new minor available|pg||
nt|lestergold: no probs in this contract with the hands so well fitting|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome back to the last 16 boards of an exciting match|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: what is 2@H, maybe a relay|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they opt for the Moysian @S fit it will be a problem|pg||
nt|caitlin: a support double?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: value showing|pg||
nt|lestergold: prob make 3|pg||
mb|p|nt|raghavan: Double or 4S bid will come|pg||
mb|p|pc|h2|nt|caitlin: shows the need for the 2NT bid|pg||
pc|hT|nt|fabsayc: if it is, doubling is likely to help opponents|pg||
nt|gavin: was wrong about the line up|pg||
nt|gavin: they did runt he same 4 again|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even with lebensohl likely to try 4|pg||
nt|gavin: agree, west hand is so huge, hard to judge|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh What agood bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5@C good bid|pg||
nt|mcarroll: great bidding|pg||
nt|raghavan: Martin did N hear you saying 5C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well yesterday he made good bids i did not say|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna can lead singleton spade but never gets partner in|pg||
nt|raghavan: North reasoningmay be S did not bid 3S over 3H so may be S 3 cards so clubs in S hand is assured|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
pc|h4|nt|gavin: north can see at trick one that the only chance to beat this hand is his partner having the Jack of hearts since clubs are frozen if the Q and K are reversed|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wolperts main worry is xx in diamonds opposite|pg||
nt|sharynr: hi folks!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hi Martin and Sharyn|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and hello to our wonderful operator, Karen, aka macaw on BBO @H|pg||
nt|mcarroll: good analysis|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin: he will overtake the spade to play another spade|pg||
nt|gavin: hoping declarer leads a high heart from dummy|pg||
nt|gavin: giving him 1 extra chance to beat the hand |pg||
nt|gavin: if his partner has 9x of hearts|pg||
nt|lestergold: altho may be a prob for south with last club so mayube only 2|pg||
pc|c3|nt|capercliff: pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 5NT i guess is pick a slam|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will bid 6@d I would guess, holding 4 small @c's|pg||
nt|gavin: leading a 4th round and having his partner ruff high in hearts|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx Martin|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sharynr: ty Roland|pg||
pc|cA|nt|capercliff: especially after the X|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oops|pg||
nt|capercliff: ooooooooooh|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: misinterpreted the 5nt|pg||
nt|mcarroll: oops indeed|pg||
nt|gavin: club shift will make this go faster|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|sybarra: hello all and welcome back |pg||
pc|dQ|nt|caitlin: Last night we had Gavin Wolpert here commentating...was excellent...he is now a pro and the Wolpert family is well known in Toronto with their mother, Hazel, who came in second in ...|pg||
nt|caitlin: CWTC, owns a major bridge club here|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the play :(|pg||
nt|gowdy: tell them to slow it down :)|pg||
nt|lestergold: well its not that exciting a hand  i think two spades made unless defence errs|pg||
pc|dT|nt|gavin: i guess the word faster|pg||
nt|gavin: and jurek|pg||
nt|gavin: dont go together that well|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you here?|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: i play weak no trump, when they double, always run, rarely gets any worse|pg||
nt|glen: do you have methods that get to your 4-4 fit?|pg||
nt|gambit: out of the frying pan...|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i will settle for a 4-3, even a chunky 4-2|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s3|nt|gavin: unless theres a "than" between them... faster than jurek, is a common expression|pg||
pc|h7|pc|cT|pg||
mc|9|nt|sharynr: they did well to stay out of 4@S didnt they...mirror hands|pg||
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qx|o47|st||md|1SAJTHA5DT653C8652,SKQ873HJT74D2CT97,S654H63DAQJ74CKQ4,S92HKQ982DK98CAJ3|sv|n|nt|jtr: By ruffing with the 8 indicating the 7|pg||
nt|hedyg: perfect defense|pg||
nt|barnets: good defence|pg||
nt|jtr: Minor matter though|pg||
nt|xenya: beautiful|pg||
nt|daman: probably a @H partscore if they're lucky|pg||
nt|barnets: north could have cashed the @DK though|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: During the break, Nickell heard from Freeman - his doctors have determined that he has pancreatitis and are treating it. Condition is painful but treatable and he should be okay|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|can be short|mb|1H|nt|jtr: Good news|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty for the news Jan, we all wish him rapid recovery|pg||
nt|daman: super news|pg||
mb|d!|an|maybe maybe not 4 !ss|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: I wonder if hes watching the match|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: would we all bid 4@H?|pg||
nt|jtr: Meck did well not to lead A and one @h next door|pg||
nt|pbundy: i would|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jtr: Same here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: 1@d= 12-14 balanced, 10-15 6+@ds, 10-15 both minors (5.4), 10-15 5@s+4@d or 10-15 any 4 4 4 1 with 4 @ds|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|daman: establishing tricks now|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c9|nt|scotty: After @hA lead, you might just change your mind about the "one" when you see those spades in dummy|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|jtr: Yes of course|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
mc|9|nt|gosia: Hello :)|pg||
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qx|c47|st||md|1SAJTHA5DT653C8652,SKQ873HJT74D2CT97,S654H63DAQJ74CKQ4,S92HKQ982DK98CAJ3|sv|n|nt|sharynr: Well same result anyway|pg||
nt|raghavan: Ellen can u say the name of the city for kibits to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: nicely bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: Toronto|pg||
nt|raghavan: Tx|pg||
nt|bbramley: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: welcome all|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: Susie has all the secrets|pg||
nt|lestergold: 20/20 hand here|pg||
mb|1D!|an|nebulous|nt|capercliff: could 5N really be a grand slam bid after 1N?|pg||
nt|shals: Good evening this game is being played in beautiful Penticton B>C> I am joining Caitlin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy but "slow" 3nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: all 3 of these players, I believe are from Toronto, certainly Hanna Nader, Jim Green, Darren Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: or Czyz may be Montreal, not sure|pg||
nt|fabsayc: match tightened up a little in the last segment|pg||
nt|glen: hi bart, glad to hear you are joining the kast of katz|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|fabsayc: don't ask me|pg||
mb|4H|nt|caitlin: welcome Shirley Laidaw|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes, ralph & I will be warming up shortly|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but i think if wolpert had heart ace, would have cued at some point, similarly with void|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to envisage 5NT as GSF|pg||
nt|raghavan: NS may play in 1NTor 2C|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2C has come|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H showed spades, double presumably hearts|pg||
nt|caitlin: at Open Table Carruthers, who has won many championships, is from Toronto, his partner Joey Silver from Montreal and L'Ecuyer and Fergani from Quebec|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: with the heart entries in easts hand , north can probably scramble together 10 or 11 tricks|pg||
nt|gavin: welcome shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Shirley|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: Shirley you have come to a Canadian zoo:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: n/ cannot come in at these colours|pg||
nt|lestergold: but 2s may already be overboard|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2@S looks like an underbid  perfect on this hand|pg||
mb|d|nt|sharynr: should East return to 4@S now?|pg||
nt|lestergold: important here for the defence to give nothing away|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: good plan if they let you do it|pg||
nt|sharynr: lol|pg||
nt|sharynr: i type too slow|pg||
nt|shals: really..I am going to play ther next week ..wonderful tournament|pg||
nt|gavin: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: im about to start my trip around the world in about 4 hours when i leave for stockholm airport|pg||
nt|shals: hope we can meet|pg||
nt|glen: good evening all|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: hi Glen|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a lot of work to do|pg||
nt|sybarra: these X  allow the XX,  |pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: if defence open up hearts for example Green may end up with a trick|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: unfortunate lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i guess they dont play super KCB|pg||
nt|sybarra: only helps opps imo |pg||
pc|dA|nt|mcarroll: and we end with a flat board - probably|pg||
nt|capercliff: there are many other ways he could have persued a grand slam on this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this broadcast will continue all day, see bbo schedule for time|pg||
nt|capercliff: bye all|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i might have tried 5@S with hannas hand, he can be sure 6@C is down|pg||
nt|sharynr: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what is your itenary, gavin?|pg||
nt|gavin: 8 1/2 hour flight to nyc, go into the city for a few hours (5 hour layover) to hang out with friends, then back to the airport for a 6 hour flight to calgary, another hour to banff ...|pg||
nt|gavin: before i quit for the night |pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin is also a Wolpert .........Darren playing South:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: nice lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 6 aces for @H and @s|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome to segment 3 of the Canadian finals from always sunny Penticton|pg||
nt|caitlin: for declarer|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, to the commentators, spectators for their comments, to BBO for allowing us to see bridge from everywhere, and to the CBF for arranging this broadcast|pg||
nt|gavin: then spending sunday driving through banff which ive never done before|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|shals: ok|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: fortunately wont have any effect here, but i see no point in this double|pg||
nt|bbramley: another case for 6RKC|pg||
nt|bbramley: good to have some rules for what's trump in ambiguous keycard auctions|pg||
nt|sybarra: isnt @H set with raise of @H?  |pg||
nt|sybarra: or could be @S with cue bid?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not the way i play - for me 3@S makes both suits key - immed fits in two suits|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the rule i use is partners suit is the key suit|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sharynr: I wonder if  Daniel would have guess @D in 6@D|pg||
nt|gavin: and finally get there sunday night , relax have breakfast monday and show up for the ko|pg||
nt|shals: Banff and the trip to the Okanagan is spectacular!|pg||
nt|caitlin: to Penticton??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: warning you will have your picture taken 20 times and be asked to take pictures at least that many times|pg||
nt|caitlin: where you going for KO?|pg||
nt|gavin: penticton|pg||
nt|gavin: regional starts monday night|pg||
nt|caitlin: awesome|pg||
nt|gavin: sucks that i will miss my mom and bro by a day|pg||
nt|lestergold: Green will try to force/encourage the defence to open up something to his advantage|pg||
nt|bbramley: but joey may not know for sure|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needed to cash a second spade before the diamond|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|bbramley: if joey thought @Hs were the only key suit, then he could be missing a grand|pg||
pc|c9|nt|sharynr: I guess Jim made it easier|pg||
nt|sharynr: right|pg||
nt|sybarra: and as he will say.  NEXT|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club exit is safe|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|shals: ok Gavin, I will bring my camera, then?|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gavin: so when he knocks out the heart, he will be able to squeeze hughes in hearts and spades for his 11th trick|pg||
nt|lestergold: so is a dim but it removes an exit card from north|pg||
nt|bbramley: some play first agreed suit, or the major, or whatever - for me it's clear that with a two-suited fit that all of the high honors in both suits are key|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|gavin: he is being a little carefull here not wanting to discard a diamond until its late enough in the hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not if hughes ducks|pg||
nt|gavin: u got it :)|pg||
nt|gavin: so if he ducks he can still negotiate it|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club of course may not have been safe from Grainer's point of view|pg||
pc|c5|nt|gavin: cashes a couple clubs and its the same squeeze in a different way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: run the spades now |pg||
nt|rlebi: hence super kcb|pg||
pc|cT|nt|starkist: 3@s might just be a cuebid|pg||
nt|bbramley: and i mean KEY in the literal sense, as in IMPORTANT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if both suits bid first by same hand, is most convenient to use the higher ranking as the key suit|pg||
nt|rlebi: so then it wouldnt matter|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|gavin: jurek can claim|pg||
nt|gavin: but fast ....|pg||
nt|gavin: this actually works as a double squeeze now|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes|pg||
nt|gavin: he has a complete claim because if turner has the 4th spade|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|gavin: then he will be squeezed in spades and diamond|pg||
nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|lestergold: tightening up the position|pg||
nt|lestergold: hoping for an endplay here|pg||
nt|gowdy: now tighten them up with trumps|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: must guess to run the diamond|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi martin|pg||
pc|c6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|raghavan: well time coming to claim|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|lestergold: Ak and club north mullered|pg||
nt|fabsayc: club club works|pg||
nt|lestergold: 8 of hearts an important card now!|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|lestergold: ensures north cannot surround the q|pg||
mc|9|nt|lestergold: ver ywell played|pg||
nt|gowdy: the @C pitch killed|pg||
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qx|o48|st||md|2SAKHQ542DQJ2CAQ72,SQJ8HT863DA654CT3,S932HJDKT873CJ654,ST7654HAK97D9CK98|sv|e|nt|daman: lucky 2 IMPS|pg||
nt|daman: Hi Margie|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia asks Weichsel: "how many @hs you have?" "2"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|hedyg: E passed in CR|pg||
nt|daman: would we all doub;e or would we bid 1NT?|pg||
nt|jtr: Almost prefer 1@h|pg||
mb|2S!|an|has stronger bids available|nt|hedyg: anybody open the E hand 1@H?|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol sry David|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe he bid for the lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|jtr: He will get the suit led alright|pg||
mb|r|nt|scotty: N-S might reach 3N here.  You often get propelled there on light values after they open.|pg||
nt|gosia: I noticed last quarter Meckwell were much more aggressive than usual ?|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|hedyg: they are playing vs opps who open all 11+ hands|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad asks about auction - Hamman: "he could have bid 2@h with a better 2@s bid" RDBL standard|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Michael :)|pg||
nt|gosia: ? :) why change your game |pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel: "I could have bid 1NT but thought this was better"|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad: "typically 4th best leads?" "yes"|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|scotty: Some might have bid directly with Ekeblad's hand.  If East had @cKx, that might have led to 3N making.  Here, it would have led to 3N down two. |pg||
pc|d9|nt|jtr: Not i|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
nt|jtr: oh he went|pg||
nt|gosia: not I|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg||
nt|scotty: The problem with double on the S hand is that you are a little light to follow with 2N over 2@d.  The problem with 1N is that your shape is unexpected - if partner has, say Jxx, ...|pg||
nt|scotty: J10xx, Kxx, Kxx you will get to bad 3N, with 4@h much better |pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia to Weichsel: "just an overtrick" |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|dK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c48|st||md|2SAKHQ542DQJ2CAQ72,SQJ8HT863DA654CT3,S932HJDKT873CJ654,ST7654HAK97D9CK98|sv|e|nt|caitlin: 4@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: if north holds onto th fourth club im not sure it can be done|pg||
nt|fabsayc: there was no defense|pg||
nt|sybarra: so how do you bid  all the keys Bart? |pg||
nt|sybarra: like in last hand  |pg||
nt|bbramley: btw, my responses are the same as for regular KC, but i have special doodads for both queens|pg||
nt|starkist: but looks like they play it as fit so then 2 suit kc|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: then a heart|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: good morning and welcome to the Canadian Bridge Federation Finals from Penticton, BC|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Hello Martin x 2|pg||
nt|Walddk12: and George|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D is makeable but requires good guessing for sure|pg||
nt|caitlin: does that show 5-4?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: at this vul probably could be 4-4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it came up in set 1|pg||
nt|caitlin: increasingly popular these days|pg||
nt|fabsayc: opponents got to 5@D, and escaped undoubled but down 4|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|mcarroll: Good evening from Dublin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4H beatable?|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: Martin they haven't played this board??|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am confused|pg||
nt|fabsayc: score detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh from set one|pg||
nt|glen: S suspects what the minor is|pg||
nt|susieq: I'm a little surprised Grainger didn't open that 3@C|pg||
mb|1D!|an|0-7|nt|mcarroll: Hi Martin, George|pg||
nt|caitlin: Last year Carruthers came in second for Worlds|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3NT may be better|pg||
nt|mcarroll: is this worth a superaccept?|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 9 card fit?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: suit is blocked and north endplayed|pg||
nt|lestergold: yes end play from the club of course as long as Green reads the position|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: 2-1 my boys are making a come back:)|pg||
mb|1N|an|18-19|nt|fabsayc: a 2@H opening in first set, caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: now I understand, thanks:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: duh|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@d 2.5@h bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looks like a diamond shift trick 2 does it in|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: apparently 1NT shows more than a bare 6 count|pg||
nt|bbramley: sure, an early @D ought to beat it|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: for results so far http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html|pg||
nt|mcarroll: W's interference may have prevented NS from reaching their 5-5 @D fit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: click on date time and event|pg||
nt|mittmouse: lets see if turner makes the good technical play of a low club back not that it helps|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi martin x2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi George|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hi george|pg||
nt|fabsayc: best they can do is cash club, heart, and play a heart|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Making3|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Lost the play, will claim out the hand when they are done. sorry |pg||
nt|fabsayc: some partnerships use 2@S over 2@H as a relay, would have been handy here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will come close to duplicating the undertricks here|pg||
nt|caitlin: I actually like Bergen super accepts|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: perhaps only 2, declarer drawing 2 trumps and playing diamonds for safety|pg||
nt|sharynr: i would think most play 8-10|pg||
nt|caitlin: what do I really care.....the Maple Leafs going nowhere ever so let's have THREE teams here..Hamilton, downtown and Downsview park..let them ALL in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: jurek needed to put in the queen, forcing declarer to win|pg||
nt|caitlin: and unblock?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|shals: would all of you lead the j?|pg||
nt|caitlin: depending if you playing Jack denies|pg||
nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Eddie Kantar were here he would have a FIT re: lead of Jack:)|pg||
nt|shals: iguess that is where I'm coming from|pg||
nt|caitlin: regardless of HCP you super accept with 9 card fit.. and more to it|pg||
nt|fabsayc: enlighten us Ellen|pg||
nt|raghavan: llen - since S did not make a bid they must be opening with 12 Points ( We were seeing lighter openings in other USA matches|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes surprising|pg||
nt|caitlin: 8 loser hand I would open|pg||
nt|glen: it helps if W has two ways to bid 3H over 2@S, one to show a great hand|pg||
nt|glen: here E has two bullets (aces) and a fit, so 4@H regardless|pg||
nt|glen: now at this time declarer thinks N's minor is @Cs|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|caitlin: guess they don't play that|pg||
nt|raghavan: any lead helps|pg||
nt|caitlin: and Darren is not shy|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is a great lead for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only suit that really matters is spades|pg||
pc|hK|nt|lestergold: e/w have 5 hearts to cash if they get the chance given a heart lead unlikely unless Green finds a double|pg||
nt|starkist: =|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|caitlin: I like Rusinow leads by far best|pg||
nt|raghavan: makes easier|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is up to carruthers to figure this out|pg||
nt|bbramley: not an easy defense|pg||
pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: especially in this case|pg||
nt|gowdy: well S has show a 3 suite|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel wisely pulls|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|caitlin: gets rid of one heart loser|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|shals: the 8 might make pd play the q|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he doesnt have to worry about the @Ha|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: the 4-1 spades may slow things down|pg||
nt|raghavan: Club and HK are favourably placed|pg||
nt|raghavan: another H may go on Clubs|pg||
pc|sA|nt|sharynr: 9 easy tricks here. should not take long|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n porbably going off as not likley to take dim finesse in 3n|pg||
pc|s8|nt|fabsayc: not sure about 4@S however, seems too much|pg||
nt|lestergold: 5d has reasonable play|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|shals: it still can do damage|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now spade 10|pg||
nt|caitlin: look it how close this match is|pg||
nt|rlebi: he's likely gonna make it now|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: took his 9|pg||
nt|lestergold: even Rolan would have doubts about playing 6d|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: arggh|pg||
nt|lestergold: well my money is with the defenc|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this could make on cross ruff except that fourth heart will be overruffed|pg||
nt|lestergold: this slam has more holes in it than one of them mousetrap cheeses|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D 22 @S king  @C q ruffs out onside  too good for Roland|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but it looks makeable|pg||
nt|glen: and the D took care of that|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes Jurek (North) might have made another move|pg||
nt|lestergold: can it be made double dummy?|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|lestergold: 12 tricks looks difficult|pg||
nt|fabsayc: apparently no does not have quite the entries to south hand|pg||
nt|lestergold: both made a cue bid too many - the KH metited an un cue bid if that were possible|pg||
nt|gowdy: ani nteresting push vs 3nt with big upside   sort of shows why slams should have better play thanthis as 5 @D could win big|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|c5|nt|fabsayc: i truely dont understand a club play|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W played in safe 3D on board 17 for 4 IMPs|pg||
nt|glen: if S had given a @C ruff, it was just ruffing one of declarer's losers|pg||
pc|c8|nt|fabsayc: good line of play for the rest|pg||
nt|starkist: now for sure|pg||
pc|cA|nt|starkist: I like that play|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|caitlin: for 6|pg||
pc|cT|nt|starkist: that too|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|raghavan: Ithought playing D A first and back with SQ good|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not pretty for E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this was safer, although diamond ruff unlikely|pg||
pc|h7|nt|caitlin: but if East ducks what now?|pg||
nt|caitlin: low spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy spade exit|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the thread|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|caitlin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: do we know outcome?|pg||
nt|lestergold: how old are these guys this has the feel of a junior slam|pg||
pc|h8|nt|fabsayc: yes forgot they have not taken club ace yet|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may still be juniors|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|gowdy: no  not any more|pg||
nt|lestergold: apparently both early twenties|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
nt|bbramley: hi george|pg||
nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this can not be a real squeeze|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|lestergold: someone says one 29|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hey tun|pg||
pc|c7|mc|8|pg||
qx|o49|st||md|3SAKQJ85HA963DK7C6,ST76HQ7DQ92CJ9852,S432HK542D43CK743,S9HJT8DAJT865CAQT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|jtr: Oddly the overtrick made no difference|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia knew that of course:)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: When he played  the heart off dummy, Ekeblad said "playing safe"|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|3S|nt|daman: easy to get to game for NS|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Zia's 3@d makes North's bid cometitive|pg||
nt|jtr: competitive|pg||
nt|barnets: could maybe bid 4|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad has gone to smoke and Weichsel is studying his bidding notes while waiting for Zia to lead|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "could we not read the notes in the middle of a hand?"|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: W: "just wanted to check something, not about this hand"|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|hedyg: nothing he can do about 4-1 @hs|pg||
nt|hedyg: except try @c first|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel has shown Zia his hand but not claimed. |pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman still thinking and I guess Weichsel & Zia can't claim because if he leads a diamond, Weichsel will make an extra trick|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|hedyg: now he can|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c49|st||md|3SAKQJ85HA963DK7C6,ST76HQ7DQ92CJ9852,S432HK542D43CK743,S9HJT8DAJT865CAQT|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: np operator|pg||
nt|caitlin: with 15 and pd could have 17...last board... should make a move|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey great convention, gets you 400 every time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we missed the key defensive play|pg||
nt|lestergold: well a dent in the lead perhaps altho could be in 3n in the open going off too|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: david grainger wins the Lord Yarborough cup|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|mb|4S|nt|fabsayc: a little smaller than the Stanley Cup|pg||
nt|sharynr: is this 1NT an upgrade or part of the range?|pg||
nt|susieq: systemically that shows a 4 card major and a longer minor|pg||
mb|p|nt|susieq: at least according to what I have here|pg||
nt|caitlin: so this is the finals of the CNTC|pg||
nt|glen: 4@C is a splinter, and as you can see from the E hand, partnerships have to agree on how little it can have for working high card points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: east hand may actually be above their minimum, but poorly placed|pg||
nt|glen: 4@D here, as played by many experts, is "last train" - last bid below 4@H - it says I like my hand, but may or may not have a @D card|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so much depends on cue bid style|pg||
nt|fabsayc: last train has its own set of problems|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: seems like a bid showing majors for me|pg||
nt|susieq: oh my mistake- it's a weak notrump, so it just shows values|pg||
nt|sharynr: or just a good old fashioned penalty double|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they play Woolsey?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: aha|pg||
nt|sharynr: pretty good weakie :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if grainger establishes the spades west must ruff the fourth, leaving losing heart in dummy|pg||
nt|gowdy: 4@S  and I think bid now|pg||
nt|lestergold: 4s will be bid quickly and down quickly|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the least of which is easts 4@S can be ace or king|pg||
nt|glen: for one of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1b.htm|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|nt|glen: this is before in moved from toronto, and now names conventions on the songs of vegas acts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna is out of bids in my opinion|pg||
nt|glen: *this was before he|pg||
nt|glen: yup, he was worth 1 try, not 2|pg||
nt|glen: unless their splinters promise a moose (grizzly in BC)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|fabsayc: ew needed to get in the bidding here|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3N would fare fine|pg||
nt|mcarroll: who will bid NT?|pg||
nt|raghavan: W I presume|pg||
nt|caitlin: I might have bid 2H with Nader's hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna|pg||
nt|mcarroll: if E bids 3@S W may venture 3NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will bid again S and W 3NT |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt by west down on spade lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ah it will take a while |pg||
nt|mittmouse: 4s is cols from the n side|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: easy 3@S, and 2@D can be made|pg||
nt|sharynr: risky pass, David should expect a void|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bidding may be riskier|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fabsayc: this should go down|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is a skinny 2N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: several chances to lead spades|pg||
nt|mittmouse: cold|pg||
pc|s6|nt|caitlin: so then Canada and Mexico vie for spot in Brazil|pg||
pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: possibly 3@S now|pg||
nt|caitlin: Nader Hanna is President of Canadian Bridge Federation which sponsors the CNTC's|pg||
nt|bbramley: looked like 2@D was cold also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: biddable is not so clear|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|raghavan: RE has bid twice- 5 cards why develop|pg||
pc|sA|nt|caitlin: Bermuda used to be part of that but has spot in Central American zone|pg||
nt|caitlin: for Canadian Bridge Federation CNTC see: http://www.cbf.ca/CNTC/|pg||
nt|caitlin: is this a 2NT catch up bid?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just an overbid in my view|pg||
nt|bbramley: must still guess the @SJ, although east is likely to help on lead|pg||
pc|s7|nt|bbramley: that lead won't cost|pg||
nt|gambit: every lead gives away something, endplayed trick ! ]\|pg||
pc|s3|nt|raghavan: H lead prob|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penguins win|pg||
nt|gavin: ship itttttt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: needs the diamond finesse|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|nt|caitlin: Darren's 9 asks for spade|pg||
nt|raghavan: C 9|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: declarer on the winning line|pg||
nt|lestergold: an auction likely to  be duplicated tho|pg||
nt|lestergold: a club club and club wuill give declarer a losing option to go down 2|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c2|nt|sharynr: excellent result for N-S|pg||
nt|caitlin: Darren Wolpert (not to be confused with his brother Galvin) and Czyzowicz are aggressive bidders|pg||
nt|raghavan: S can take 2 Spade only|pg||
pc|d3|nt|gowdy: not sure about that  north has an interesting hand  depends on meathods |pg||
nt|lestergold: the 4s bid is normal becuase either it makes or if it doesnt it prevents e/w  however here i think e/w liimit was 3 dims|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed, 3NT makes EW|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and the carnage if NS declare, nobody wants to know|pg||
nt|caitlin: I believe reverse smith echo here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we have moose here also|pg||
pc|h6|nt|caitlin: sorry Gavin |pg||
nt|caitlin: it is Darren|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now turner is confused, looks like partner was trying to find entry for a heart through declarer|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|raghavan: 2 S + C A + H A|pg||
nt|caitlin: so Wolpert's @C7 says I do not like hearts|pg||
nt|mcarroll: it needed an initial @S lead to beat 3NT|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|caitlin: well Roy did bid hearts|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: yes but down only 1 this way|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
pc|d7|nt|caitlin: and Wolpert can't be the one to lead them:)|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|Walddk12: Welcome to Cliff Gillis|pg||
nt|mittmouse: ok guys be back later|pg||
nt|capercliff: hi folks|pg||
nt|caitlin: may find spade lead now|pg||
nt|caitlin: should find it|pg||
nt|raghavan: H  is 9th trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: He may duck again hoping D K with S|pg||
nt|caitlin: interesting re: Green's 3@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: of course it ASKS|pg||
nt|caitlin: if Green had hearts he would bid 3N|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|lestergold: club club and club south may have ruffed with ace and run the Js|pg||
nt|gambit: claiming quickly |pg||
pc|d2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|raghavan: ducks|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if partner is prone to 4 card overcalls it somewhat reduces the chances that 4@S is either a sac or make|pg||
nt|gowdy: True  but N may have some gadgets to open  I'm not sure what they play|pg||
mc|10|nt|caitlin: Larry Cohen at www.larryco.com has lots of info on when these bids are asking or telling|pg||
pg||
qx|o50|st||md|4SK7HA6432D83CAKQ5,SQJ82HQ5DKQ72CT62,ST9HJ8DT654CJ9874,SA6543HKT97DAJ9C3|sv|n|nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "we have a save, -2 on the club finesse, not easy" Weichsel: "not appealing"|pg||
nt|barnets: n/s in 2@C here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|barnets: so a chance for nickell pickup|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: 1@H opening in E in CR|pg||
mb|3H|nt|barnets: south overcalled 1NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: canapé system|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: it went x 2@C all pass|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: west had an awkward bid and passed|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "give them 50" Weichsel: "OK"|pg||
pc|cK|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|nt|Vugraphu1: Actually led A then K - I don't know what I was looking at :)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "if he's still thinking after that it's not good" |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|barnets: souths hearts are not a very good suit to bid 2@H |pg||
mc|10|nt|daman: nice result|pg||
pg||
qx|c50|st||md|4SK7HA6432D83CAKQ5,SQJ82HQ5DKQ72CT62,ST9HJ8DT654CJ9874,SA6543HKT97DAJ9C3|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: was that 9 or 10 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looked like only 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: we have to remember that there are also novices and low intermediates in spec who may not know when such bids are asking or telling|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not too many in penticton area however|pg||
nt|glen: the bears ate them|pg||
nt|glen: an ottawa bear is in pendiction for the tourney|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he did that fast, guess would have taken much longer if in 4|pg||
nt|bbramley: how many tricks did he take, operator?  if he guessed spades he made 10|pg||
mb|1H!|an|could be canape|nt|mcbruce:  The CSTC is over after three quarters, with Hobart winning after a big 3Q.|pg||
mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: Hi Cliff|pg||
nt|glen: penticton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: obvious you have never encountered a moose in the wild :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: welcome Cliff|pg||
nt|caitlin: so when is final game?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|capercliff: cheers guys|pg||
nt|fabsayc: transfer advance of 1@D|pg||
nt|caitlin: E-W make 3S on last hand|pg||
nt|gavin: this match ends tomorrow|pg||
nt|gavin: stanley cup is over ! |pg||
nt|caitlin: hockey Gavin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we are on at 9:30, 12, 4:30 and 7 tomorrow for the remaining 4 sets|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all time PDT|pg||
nt|caitlin: ohhhhhhhhh|pg||
nt|glen: S has a good @H fit, but soft values in the other suits, and no ruffing value|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  his means we have two sets of boards, one at each table, so my duplication accuracy will be put to the test...but nobody will wait for a board|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: the claim was for making 3 :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|gavin: 4-3 pittsburgh, thats practically like bringing the cup to canada|pg||
nt|fabsayc: double support|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: showing hearts, adds a lot of possible new sequences |pg||
nt|capercliff: is this only after a X?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am not sure, is good any time in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: about as close as were gonna get for a while|pg||
nt|caitlin: "practically"|pg||
nt|fabsayc: how do you figure that gavin|pg||
nt|gavin: our young superstar wins|pg||
nt|lestergold: tame 3n here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a quackery|pg||
pc|hT|nt|mcarroll: these transfer responses ar gaining popularity everywhere|pg||
nt|capercliff: i quite like it after a double, puts the doubler on lead but requires lots of notes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this tricky lead is going to backfire|pg||
nt|fabsayc: erase my last comment, lost the plot :)|pg||
nt|gavin: vancouver is the only canadian team with a hope|pg||
nt|shals: I agree but great story  for the underdogs|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|shals: I hope!!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hope springs eternal, go whitecaps|pg||
pc|hA|nt|starkist: not beating now|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: 3NT is the simplest bid available|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|shals: yes|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gavin would you bid 3C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: gosh i must be old, i pass in second seat|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is risky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but quite a play problem|pg||
nt|raghavan: Which is the 9th trick? |pg||
nt|mcarroll: He has to find one of the @SJ,@DQ or @CQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: will probably attempt to combine chances|pg||
nt|raghavan: C Q difficult|pg||
nt|gowdy: looks like coffee ( or wine ) time here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|caitlin: 6@S|pg||
nt|caitlin: moi aussi|pg||
nt|shals: me too|pg||
nt|gavin: i wouldnt open :)|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|fabsayc: cash top cards in one minor|pg||
nt|lestergold: with hearts 3/3 and the qc as entry no probs in this contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that tame, saved by heart split and club ace right|pg||
nt|glen: dummy comes down and declarer thinks should I work out on how 4@S would do - no first, play this|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|gavin: but no i wouldnt bid|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C Fit showing jump by passed hand|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect hand to pass and make an unusual 2NT bid later|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: not bergen?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: unlikely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey just asking|pg||
nt|caitlin: why not drury then?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|shals: yes it is|pg||
nt|caitlin: Greetings|pg||
nt|lestergold: thats why i said it was tame as the cards lie not in an absoluiter sense|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi caitlin|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Mike|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Karen our operator?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but does he have a losing alternative, perhaps not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Karen:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: I almost fell asleep in the sun:)|pg||
nt|lestergold: i dont think so he has to establish clubs and that means spades will be established and he cannot lose the lead again|pg||
nt|lestergold: so its a one shot contract|pg||
pc|cA|nt|sharynr: good stop by E-W|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:)|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  four rounds to play in COPC; we'll announce leaders when posted|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: down 1 or numerous overtricks on this defense|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: what if korbel ducks two clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: then the hearts squeeze hanna|pg||
pc|cT|nt|sharynr: looks like N-S make 21H so even down 1 is ok|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry, they are playing too fast and lost thread |pg||
nt|sharynr: but that was a reasonable shift|pg||
nt|mittmouse: technically hanna should now try a club if that is wrong he has to take a s finesse|pg||
nt|sharynr: good point G|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so saved by the diamond 9 then|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|mcarroll: or possibly cash @Ss to check if they are 3-3 or the J falls, then 2 top @Cs|pg||
nt|raghavan: finessing towards w is likely - since W may not know that H K is alone|pg||
nt|caitlin: he will finesse West for @DQ|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna will try K then lead low to the Q better odds than playing anything else|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|sT|nt|caitlin: I think any bid showing spade support would have turned Turner on:)|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: crosby doing pushups with the cup|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green gave count|pg||
nt|lestergold: Hanna knows that the ace will be held up otherwise|pg||
nt|caitlin: so David Grainger and Daniel Korbel|pg||
nt|lestergold: better unblock hearts now he will of course|pg||
nt|fabsayc: did he really pitch a heart?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: y|pg||
nt|lestergold: if he did hes dead|pg||
pc|sK|nt|shals: woops this is going to be tough|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have a crystal ball tuner, Mike|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|gavin: 2 down with a winning finesse|pg||
nt|lestergold: it looks misere from here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pitching a spade gives up any chance of a make|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: for me 3@C would be clubs only|pg||
nt|caitlin: I see 7 tricks|pg||
pc|c6|nt|fabsayc: good save against 2@H|pg||
nt|caitlin: upside down|pg||
nt|glen: yes, but he was doing it in hope to entice a @S play|pg||
pc|c8|nt|caitlin: no X no trouble?|pg||
nt|shals: maybe|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's remember these guys may be TIRED|pg||
nt|gavin: oh ya, this is a gruelling event to say the least|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|caitlin: for me FSJ|pg||
nt|caitlin: by passed hand and in competition|pg||
nt|caitlin: they didn't get here without lots of play|pg||
nt|shals: wouldn't we all..|pg||
nt|gavin: its an achievement to be in the finals but the losing team probably wont feel that way|pg||
nt|shals: true..|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmm|pg||
pc|c4|nt|capercliff: this is going well for declarer|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: north will just keep discarding|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room got to 4@D on 3|pg||
nt|gambit: To all you hockey fans Pitt wins 2-1 in a nailbiter |pg||
nt|glen: though the D can clearly see that a @H discard is called for|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. don't trust that @S discard at all|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry too fast |pg||
pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: down 2|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|caitlin: Yes Cam this has been a topic woven in with bridge:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: Detroit is a big bridge city|pg||
nt|lestergold: why hold on to the pesky diamonds|pg||
nt|bbramley: south has a lock to play @Cs - east has shown 16 HCP already and is marked with at most 3 @Cs|pg||
mc|10|nt|capercliff: then he will be endplayed|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not going to make this way|pg||
pg||
qx|o51|st||md|1ST98HQ754DAKJTCK4,SAK74HT9D8652C852,SJ63HJ863DCAQJ973,SQ52HAK2DQ9743CT6|sv|e|nt|hedyg: no they are not but he does have 16 good hcps|pg||
nt|barnets: so the margin is now 8|pg||
nt|hedyg: would you have passed?|pg||
nt|barnets: i like 1N|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "I had no expectation of making the hand ... you either, probably ... now discussing that the diamond J might have been his 10th trick|pg||
nt|xenya: they had to go in 4@H twice to make this one|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "Weichsy accepted -50 with AK, A - he's not greedy"|pg||
mb|1D!|an|can be short|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|Might not have 4 !hs|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|promises 4 !hs|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@H=3+?|pg||
nt|barnets: seems only possible make|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel wrote that 1@h didn't always have 4 hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: think he will try?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|hedyg: ty|pg||
nt|daman: nope|pg||
nt|hedyg: there go the @s losers|pg||
nt|barnets: well done to stop other room in 4@H|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Putting down the dummy, Weichsel says about the diamonds "a Royal Flush almost"|pg||
nt|daman: 4@H in the CR on a @C lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: @c lead in CR|pg||
nt|hedyg: sry|pg||
nt|hedyg: always too slow :(|pg||
nt|hedyg: the only hand where S does not have 4+@ds is a balanced 12-14 hand|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman in the bathroom - so is Weichsel (different one) - Zia complaining that we don't have enough kibs, so I told him they were off watching Sabine in the Mixed in San Remo|pg||
nt|barnets: in order to have a chance to make 4@H one of the things declarer has to do is guess trumps he led low to the 10 J and King|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman back |pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia "what are you going to  play from dummy?" E "havent had time to think about it :)"|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|jtr: This line is going well|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|hA|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|hK|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
nt|jtr: And now:)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|jtr: I have never seen so many trump pips making tricks|pg||
mc|10|nt|scotty: I think 10 tricks unstoppable after the lead|pg||
pg||
qx|c51|st||md|1ST98HQ754DAKJTCK4,SAK74HT9D8652C852,SJ63HJ863DCAQJ973,SQ52HAK2DQ9743CT6|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: what happened?|pg||
nt|sharynr: and Hanna must have taken that line|pg||
nt|gavin: hughest hand is way too strong for 2nt in my opinion|pg||
nt|gavin: very difficult hand to bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no down 1 on this defense|pg||
mb|1D!|an|nebulous|nt|fabsayc: the interesting defense would have been to start with a high club|pg||
mb|p|nt|mittmouse: i think he must have done it right good technique by hanna|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yikes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needed 6 hearts for his overcall, so finesse long odds at the end|pg||
nt|lestergold: operator says it was a heart discarded|pg||
mb|1H|nt|sharynr: Would anyone open east hand and if so, what|pg||
nt|gavin: too strong for 2C then 2nt too|pg||
nt|shals: and hockey city|pg||
nt|gavin: so many slams where partner doesnt show interest|pg||
nt|gavin: 1D is a reasonable choice |pg||
nt|raghavan: Part score deal|pg||
nt|caitlin: a constructive 2@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: in which case unless im missing something it was a bad error|pg||
mb|2H|an|shows 4|nt|susieq: I would open 3@D but I'm a little crazy|pg||
nt|caitlin: whereas if he were weaker he would first bid 1NT then 2@S|pg||
nt|lestergold: otherwise  2 spades 2 clubs 5 hearts and contract made|pg||
nt|starkist: all I know is I'm leading the @h j on this hand|pg||
nt|bbramley: @H8 is the key card|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: both k's are working|pg||
nt|susieq: that's fit showing|pg||
nt|caitlin: Turner will pass I assume|pg||
nt|gambit: Will C balance? I thk y|pg||
nt|gavin: this auction would almost always be 4-6 or 5-6|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to picture partner with a hand good enough for this action that doesnt have 6 diamonds |pg||
nt|gavin: turner has a monster|pg||
nt|gavin: (given the state of the auction)|pg||
nt|gavin: with  aspade stopper and 3 diamonds and the queen of hearts|pg||
nt|gavin: i think he owes hughes 2 or 3NT|pg||
nt|gowdy: 1nt = @C|pg||
nt|gowdy: suit or a lead|pg||
mb|2N!|an|only game try|nt|capercliff: interesting choice to bid 3N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they may regret not playing 4@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4333 often plays at least a trick better in 4 of a major|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes 4@S an easier contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: neither is very good|pg||
nt|gambit: yes, 3D, and the QH, extras given his pass, but monster, No.....a couiple modest redeeming features, |pg||
nt|mcarroll: On Board 1 I see they did prefer the Moysian @S fit rather than @Cs and it cost 11 imps|pg||
nt|caitlin: they play constructive so 2@S 8-10 HCP|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S is not forward going, but Jurek still tempted|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and 3@S is preemptive not constructive|pg||
nt|caitlin: yes some play 1@S 2@S 3@S stop|pg||
nt|caitlin: I personally don't like it|pg||
nt|mcarroll: as there is no entry to Dummy, on a @D lead to take advantage of a discard on the @HA 4 @S goes down|pg||
nt|raghavan: S is trying to prevent EW going to 3H and later if he ventured - may be doubled - Of course he does not know N hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that does not automatically beat hand|pg||
nt|mcarroll: And there are slow @C losers|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: nice hand for fit showing|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: even with both K's working hard to see 10 tricks|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|caitlin: given their lead there is no reason to push to 4|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: he cant have a better hand|pg||
nt|raghavan: We cannot find fault with N for his bidding|pg||
nt|caitlin: well if they play 1S 2S 3S stop we can|pg||
nt|starkist: darn need to play xfer lead doubles|pg||
pc|cT|nt|sharynr: 4@S might have been reached (and made)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think green should have tried 3@D in that case|pg||
nt|mittmouse: this is a steal im surprised green didnt bid 3d then hanna would bid 4s |pg||
nt|sharynr: but as is the case when both sides make a major suit game, the bidding might not have stopped at the 4 level|pg||
nt|gavin: funny to balance your opponents from 1D into 3NT|pg||
nt|caitlin: how true|pg||
nt|raghavan: N has maximum for his 2S bid|pg||
nt|glen: the 2/1 way to make a 3 card limit raise - 1NT (forcing/semi-forcing), then 3 of the major|pg||
pc|cK|nt|capercliff: good things H's are 3-3 or this would be really ugly|pg||
nt|capercliff: cancel that|pg||
nt|capercliff: even I could make 4 tricks with this @h suit:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: only in no trump|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: what out what you ask for|pg||
nt|gavin: very interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: czyz will have an easy time finding hte club shift|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: seems down if defense passive|pg||
nt|lestergold: e/w have stayed low nough to make  a plus|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|gavin: the king of spades asks his partner to unblock an honor or give him upside down count|pg||
nt|caitlin: he showed it with constructive raise|pg||
pc|dA|nt|gambit: this will go down quickly |pg||
nt|gambit: as a plus |pg||
nt|fabsayc: i predict slowly|pg||
nt|gambit: you know David? Methodical |pg||
nt|gavin: when south gets in with the first diamond|pg||
nt|gavin: he will undoubtedly lead a spade|pg||
nt|gavin: since his partner lead the king, thats their power lead he knows that he has a GREAT spade suit|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to know if he has 5 or 6|pg||
nt|lestergold: bad spade break and poor communications with dummy would make higher level contracts very precarious|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s3|nt|gambit: 3-2 diamonds would work losing 1 diamond, 3 spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 11 tricks now|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some problems now for declarer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the simplest solution, finesse the club|pg||
nt|caitlin: he has to|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|fabsayc: brave play, minimizing the loss|pg||
pc|s6|nt|lestergold: why rush with ace of dim?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a mistake but afraid hanna would draw partners lone trump|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|caitlin: then how back to hand?|pg||
nt|caitlin: finessing @Ds against North??|pg||
pc|h4|nt|sharynr: i am sure NS would have pushed to th5 5-level|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky spade position|pg||
pc|hT|nt|mittmouse: look at what that fit showing jump did for graingers hand he would have bid to the 5 level if necessary|pg||
nt|lestergold: well had Hanna tried 8s it would have been very revealing!!|pg||
nt|mittmouse: carruthers must have missed a spot|pg||
nt|starkist: teasing @d10 play|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is why i hesistated with my comment, was not at all clear|pg||
nt|gavin: that was an odd play|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond lead would have made this tougher, but i think still makes|pg||
nt|glen: yes, the @D lead head towards a forcing defense|pg||
pc|s2|nt|glen: the idea being to play @Ds at all chances|pg||
pc|s8|nt|lestergold: contract still in jeapordy tho|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gavin: and darren playing the queen of diamonds was bad also|pg||
nt|gavin: only lying to his partner|pg||
nt|caitlin: this has not been a lucky 3rd or beginning of 4th set for Carruthers team|pg||
nt|gowdy: a new variation  pitch a winner on a loser   but maintain control|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h3|nt|starkist: didn't he have to duck as the only hope?|pg||
nt|mittmouse: lucky for him partner didnt have a black ace|pg||
nt|bbramley: he had 2 hopes: @HAJ8 with west, or a @D entry with west|pg||
pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: another mistake by declarer|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am sure many have TV's on for NHL|pg||
nt|caitlin: Wolpert should wonder why Green took @CA and returned spade|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h2|nt|caitlin: a chance to finesse|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is a gruelling event|pg||
pc|h5|nt|caitlin: I think they are all getting very tired|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it was down if that was play|pg||
nt|caitlin: as is our great operator Karen|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|caitlin: an overtrick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: finesse gains nothing, as can always elope the small trumps|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|gavin: id put money that this is no worse than a push for them|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to believe that grainger and korbel , easily the most aggressive pair in the event are not in a game on this hand|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond lead versus 3nt by east after 2c opening?|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o52|st||md|2S843HAJT874D64C53,SQJ7H3DAJT98753CJ,ST9652HKQ6DCKT986,SAKH952DKQ2CAQ742|sv|b|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|hedyg: looked like it|pg||
nt|barnets: grannovetter has been thibking for 10 mins on his play at trick 5|pg||
nt|jtr: Slam here if they locate the @h single|pg||
nt|scotty: Hamman may just gamble on @h control - not much science here|pg||
nt|jtr: Hamman could maybe bid 4@s as a cue?  But it may be natural|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|jtr: Clouding the water with 4NT|pg||
nt|jtr: Makes 6@d looks less like a punt|pg||
mb|5C|an|1 or 4 keycards|mb|p|nt|scotty: And 5@d may go down anyway if partner has 3-card @h.  So small window for 5@d to be right|pg||
mb|6D|nt|daman: a moving target|pg||
nt|hedyg: let them find the lead he thinks|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman signaled that 5@c showed 1 or 4, laughing a little. Zia wrote that he showed 1 ace|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: he must be nervous right now|pg||
nt|scotty: North should tend to lead an ace on this auction.  With no ace, lead from strongest king holding (or maybe shortest?).  With no king, lead from strogest (shortest?) queen, etc. |pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hQ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c52|st||md|2S843HAJT874D64C53,SQJ7H3DAJT98753CJ,ST9652HKQ6DCKT986,SAKH952DKQ2CAQ742|sv|b|nt|capercliff: this 4333 9 count is an invite in my book|pg||
nt|gavin: can still find spade shift|pg||
nt|caitlin: they haven't played this board yet|pg||
nt|raghavan: Give credit to E playing small Spades. |pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i think he unblocked hearts before club ruff|pg||
nt|raghavan: and not SJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: but still no reason to duck 2nd @H in either case|pg||
mb|3D|nt|starkist: true|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: what to bid...|pg||
nt|caitlin: board 4 OR smart to be in 3@D making|pg||
nt|caitlin: 22|pg||
nt|shals: intersting all over the scoe bd|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen how did you land up operating in Penticton if you are American?|pg||
nt|glen: for a close final quarter, this table is moving quickly, which is nice for everybody watching|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: not for me :)|pg||
nt|starkist: throwing away down tricks|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 2@h is never enough these days|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: British Columbia|pg||
nt|glen: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess "dont watch" wont work|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no try?|pg||
mb|p|nt|gavin: monster super accept for cz|pg||
nt|gavin: tough to avoid slam on this hand|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: joey cant have side ace?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|gavin: its on a finesse but they have so many wasted points|pg||
mc|12|nt|fabsayc: but they always bid 3nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: how does everyone feel about 3N?|pg||
nt|sharynr: Silver made 5@d on the second hand, for 8 imps|pg||
pg||
qx|o53|st||md|3SQ9752HT972DQ8CJ3,SJT6HJ86DJT9CQT85,S3HA4DAK7542CK972,SAK84HKQ53D63CA64|sv|n|nt|scotty: Funny - don't remember Zia being such a good partner|pg||
nt|barnets: so meckstroth managed to make 4@H without guesssing trumps|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@h was made in CR|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad: "well-played Zia"|pg||
nt|barnets: he led a winning club from dummy and east ruffed|pg||
mb|1D!|an|can be short|nt|barnets: the last two trumps fell on the next trick|pg||
mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|barnets: only 2 imps in it now|pg||
nt|hedyg: if Granovetter hadnt ruffed he could disc the last @s and play @H?|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: they are in 5@D on 52 in the CR|pg||
nt|daman: 3@D - 5@D|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia really wants to bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: then ruff/discard might still have beaten it i think|pg||
mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|mc|8|nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad: "I won't insult you, I'll just give you your tricks ... making 2"|pg||
nt|hedyg: they played very quickly|pg||
pg||
qx|c53|st||md|3SQ9752HT972DQ8CJ3,SJT6HJ86DJT9CQT85,S3HA4DAK7542CK972,SAK84HKQ53D63CA64|sv|n|nt|capercliff: are both pairs playing a 15-17 nt?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i like plan A, that was an ugly hand|pg||
nt|gavin: np|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is Gavin Wolpert|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: forcing but weak caitlin, then 3@C would be limited reverse and not forcing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you think Mr Kokish will visit the open room|pg||
nt|shals: should we expcet him/|pg||
nt|caitlin: if so 110 isn't right score|pg||
nt|gowdy: thanks  nice job|pg||
nt|lestergold: my pleasure Caitlin|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough to give up on a beat|pg||
mb|1D!|an|nebulous|nt|fabsayc: potentially 0 cover cards|pg||
nt|sharynr: A unusual weak 2 by Hanna|pg||
nt|susieq: that's a pretty heavy 2@S bid nv|pg||
nt|gavin: ty|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which is why Jurek did not try for slam over 4@D|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have been facing xxxx in diamonds for example|pg||
nt|shals: expect ie|pg||
nt|caitlin: just ask Eric to go to Peter Chung King and he will come to ANY table:)|pg||
nt|shals: ahh|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not doubled|pg||
nt|caitlin: great response by Jim:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is East Jim Green|pg||
nt|glen: np, 1st priority is to get right result in|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2nd priority is to get Korbel to update his bridge blog|pg||
nt|glen: with actual play of hand|pg||
nt|rlebi: quite a few tricks available|pg||
nt|susieq: he's got some hands from the Cavendish in Vegas to put in as well before he gets to this :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: Korbel alerts pass of 2NT to mean "i'm not blogging this hand"|pg||
mb|1H!|an|!s|nt|bbramley: opening 3@H would have blown out N/S|pg||
nt|starkist: I don't like to have 7 for wk 2|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: btw Mohmad Ali is at the NHL game wearing a Red Wing Jersey:) *IMPORTANT information:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i have advertising space available on my chest also :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: anybody know what 4@C is|pg||
nt|glen: well, we can't use the G word can we|pg||
nt|mittmouse: bart do u think its right in a long match where people are tired not to claim and let them work to try to beat it|pg||
nt|bbramley: agree about 7|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: silver asking for the same dummy this time|pg||
mb|2D|nt|sharynr: i guess Jim has seen his partner's weak 2's before|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry won't go for what Ali's goes for:)|pg||
nt|gavin: go pittsburgh!|pg||
nt|caitlin: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: im in sweden for about 7 more hours, no hockey on normal TV here :( |pg||
nt|caitlin: we will keep you up to date Gavin|pg||
nt|caitlin: I have Tom in the lobby letting me know all:)|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like down a couple in 3 diamonds, ew can make 3C|pg||
nt|shals: what does that indicate?|pg||
nt|caitlin: raise in diamonds|pg||
nt|shals: ty|pg||
nt|caitlin: limit|pg||
nt|caitlin: our vugraph operator, Karen, says it wasn't doubled|pg||
nt|gowdy: againd 4 @S and a minor|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4 or 5?|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4+|pg||
nt|caitlin: Korbel thinking of raising|pg||
mb|d|nt|gavin: i think its a mixed raise , we will see based on norths response|pg||
nt|caitlin: sorry I thought S doubled again and it was left in|pg||
nt|bbramley: george, not in general|pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: worked out well for him|pg||
mb|3C|nt|raghavan: Ellen and Martin - what will N play now after SQ - will he play club small??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably win and shift to a club, although that does not look hopeful|pg||
nt|caitlin: if he overtakes that is his only hope|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps a heart better|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Martin?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I think that is what he is thinking about, I would opt forsmall@C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: attacking communication|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it could be the Green convention|pg||
nt|glen: yes, Green convention, asking for aces|pg||
nt|glen: 4@H likely showed 0 or 3 aces (E suspects 3)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: is fine if you don't do it also on garbage hands|pg||
nt|gavin: perfect!|pg||
nt|shals: yep|pg||
nt|caitlin: asking re minor which can't be clubs|pg||
nt|glen: 5@C confirms all aces, and now W has good playing value if E has the right hand opposite|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: I wonder whom you are rooting for Gavin?:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: interesting hand|pg||
nt|gavin: pittsburgh !!! oh my brother|pg||
nt|shals: good stop I think|pg||
nt|caitlin: we shall see......not so easy|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: and which is more important?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|capercliff: 4@h is a good choice |pg||
nt|capercliff: normal with a stiff honor|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Good Contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: anyone know what 2Nt asked for|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|starkist: what a steal this was|pg||
nt|bbramley: and he's going to make 2@H|pg||
pc|d3|nt|capercliff: @s lead will hold it to 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: may have been singleton?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburgh on a power play|pg||
nt|shals: no stoppers in clubs for nt|pg||
nt|caitlin: that would be too lucky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: really ugly lead problem for hanna|pg||
nt|gowdy: may lose 2 @S here|pg||
pc|d8|nt|gowdy: not now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oh my|pg||
nt|glen: and only a ruff can beat this 7NT|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|rlebi: unusual but effective auction|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: i don't think this auction calls for trump lead either|pg||
nt|capercliff: i wouldnt think so|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: I caught all the play on that one :)|pg||
nt|glen: lol :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: all 139 spectators are sworn to not tell roland|pg||
nt|rlebi: 16 imp diff now|pg||
pc|d6|nt|gavin: wheres the contract that consents if detroit wins my bro wins ? ill sign |pg||
nt|fabsayc: Jxx and Jx are ugly for trump lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 boards - 2 imps a board until a playoff|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: but is hard to see why a spade is best|pg||
nt|caitlin: nada tricks for NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is this right??|pg||
nt|mcarroll: K worked better|pg||
nt|raghavan: fell in the trap- 2Club tricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well now a heart seems clear|pg||
nt|caitlin: it's right he played North for KQ tight|pg||
nt|gowdy: tuff lead     this looks normal|pg||
nt|caitlin: what else to lead?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pass right to dummy|pg||
nt|caitlin: underlead a heart to stiff @HK??|pg||
nt|caitlin: can't be or he would have clubs:)|pg||
nt|caitlin: a few|pg||
nt|fabsayc: heart or club ace were clearly alternatives, also with their losing cases|pg||
nt|caitlin: low heart|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna thinking of winning clearing trump|pg||
nt|caitlin: ???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he cant do that, would have no chance then|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|d7|nt|caitlin: :) so blood is thicker than hockey|pg||
nt|fabsayc: duck again looks best|pg||
pc|s4|nt|sharynr: well my predictions stink....bd 20 open room in 4@D DBL|pg||
nt|gavin: its amazing how often ducking to keep control in trumps is right when they break bad and you have length w/ the ace|pg||
nt|gavin: both as defender or declarer|pg||
nt|gavin: unless you clearly need to clear trumps ASAP , its better not to win your ace until the last chance|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or 3@D|pg||
nt|starkist: then a shoot off|pg||
nt|fabsayc: surely not two overtricks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just making|pg||
nt|rlebi: sudden death|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: typo|pg||
nt|bbramley: all the same impwise, for making 110, 140 or 170|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: fixed it|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: yes very imaginative by jurek|pg||
nt|raghavan: He wants D|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|caitlin: declarer has to play diamonds|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but this defense may cost a trick|pg||
nt|shals: would one think of 1n first?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|fabsayc: claim time|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is not going to make|pg||
pc|s8|nt|gavin: unless he guessed the singleton king of hearts in the first place he couldnt make after turner ducked two rounds of spades|pg||
nt|gavin: which could not happen|pg||
nt|caitlin: true enough|pg||
nt|caitlin: so N will get his diamond|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now a diamond, but which one|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|caitlin: not with 5Ds|pg||
nt|caitlin: that would certainly help E-W find clubs I think|pg||
pc|c5|nt|sharynr: well this cant help but fail|pg||
nt|caitlin: anything now gives it to declarer|pg||
pc|c2|nt|sharynr: was there really a claim to make 4?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: y|pg||
nt|fabsayc: what|pg||
nt|sharynr: where did the @H oser go?|pg||
nt|sharynr: loser|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: korbel: "sorry i lost a trick"|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is barely possible if defense did not take their clubs|pg||
pc|c4|nt|caitlin: how did he make it?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|caitlin: well folks.....I think I will call it a night...we have lots of sessions tomorrow|pg||
pc|s6|nt|gavin: gn|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: still down|pg||
nt|caitlin: ty to all and great specs and Karen our great operator|pg||
nt|fabsayc: good night|pg||
nt|caitlin: claim time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no|pg||
pc|sK|nt|caitlin: oh sorry |pg||
nt|caitlin: West still had a trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but a third heart so all well|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|nt|caitlin: 4@D did its job|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|mc|7|pg||
qx|o54|st||md|4SJT876H4DAQ862C75,SAQ543HJ9DKJ4CA62,SHKT762DTCKQJT983,SK92HAQ853D9753C4|sv|e|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|barnets: so nickell won a slam swing when zia opened 4@D and rubin opened only 3|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Maybe he couldnt open 4@d|pg||
mb|1N|nt|barnets: raised to 5@D|pg||
nt|jtr: Well, not to show @ds anyway|pg||
nt|daman: here comes some action|pg||
nt|hedyg: so we have a new leader|pg||
mb|4C|nt|jtr: Ekeblad in for a nice surprise here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|jtr: Will Zia convert though?|pg||
nt|daman: so is Hamman if he bids 4@H|pg||
nt|jtr: He knows of short @cs and not 6@hs|pg||
nt|xenya: he might|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: bd 53 3@c W|pg||
pc|dA|nt|scotty: Weichsel did well not to "save"|pg||
nt|jtr: Last thing North wants is a ruff|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|barnets: not down yet|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|jtr: Hamman still has to guess though|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|scotty: Not sure where Peter thinks 4 tricks are coming from with that lead|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|jtr: Unlikely to do so|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|scotty: S should get squeezed in pointed suits for down one, unless N defends double dummy|pg||
nt|jtr: Blockage for the squeeze|pg||
nt|hedyg: but E has no entry to hand to make the 9@d even if he discs them|pg||
nt|scotty: @sK scuppered it - I was thinking low to Q|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h8|nt|scotty: Then only down 2 if N didn't ruff|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c54|st||md|4SJT876H4DAQ862C75,SAQ543HJ9DKJ4CA62,SHKT762DTCKQJT983,SK92HAQ853D9753C4|sv|e|nt|capercliff: routine 4@s, @d lead will hold it to 11|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Open Room replicated the 1NT-3NT auction on board 6|pg||
nt|capercliff: interesting, both not wanting to miss an early Vul game|pg||
nt|sharynr: but they did|pg||
nt|gavin: his low heart play would work any time hearts were 3-2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: north forced to give east a spade trick|pg||
nt|raghavan: 4H + 2C+1D\|pg||
nt|gowdy: ruff a @C draw trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes john|pg||
nt|susieq: the cards are definitely going East-West this set|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@H both majors?|pg||
nt|capercliff: E thinks his hand is too good for an old fashioned 3@d bid?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes shows both majors|pg||
nt|gavin: he needed to keep his ace of hearts in his hand for an entry to draw trumps after he leads up towards his jack|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so always makes if declarer plays right|pg||
nt|raghavan: a part score deal I hope EW do not jump to game in a Major|pg||
nt|chorush: there was no flannery. what would he be upset about?|pg||
nt|starkist: chugging contest|pg||
mb|1N|nt|fabsayc: in that case 2@S by east can be natural or artificial, you need to discuss a defense|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Is S worth an immediate 4@S?|pg||
nt|gavin: very tough hand will be interesting to see the line in the other room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 10-1 somebody bids game|pg||
mb|4C|nt|mcarroll: Obviously he thinks so|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe too strong|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S AND 4@H are both feasible|pg||
nt|gavin: unlikely he will leave them there|pg||
nt|gavin: 7-4 white vs red|pg||
nt|caitlin: Green does not have to accept transfer|pg||
nt|raghavan: E will reject transfer and bid 3S|pg||
nt|rlebi: wrong sided for @Ss already|pg||
nt|rlebi: better stay low for a plus|pg||
nt|starkist: canoe race|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 5@D in big trouble|pg||
nt|capercliff: yes 5@c is better, best defence can get 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: must be a @h lead for 800|pg||
nt|capercliff: anything else is 500|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Hard to lead a @H fromS, @S the obvious lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: club ruff and heart heart switch works also|pg||
nt|sharynr: i dont believe you can gain a trick by claiming if it is impossible to  make it....and in that defense they could not make a mistake?|pg||
nt|caitlin: best to lead trump|pg||
nt|starkist: snowball fight|pg||
mb|4S|nt|sharynr: will any director out there agree?|pg||
nt|rlebi: sry, dreaming here|pg||
nt|glen: could declarer draw all the trumps and pick up @Ds?|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. just lose to the @D ace if guesses suit right|pg||
nt|rlebi: yes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S presumably no singleton and extras, and for that hand he is close to minimum|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: not clear, but more likely daniel ducked heart|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hoping declarer would play the 9|pg||
nt|caitlin: or S and switch|pg||
nt|gowdy: coffee time |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast they may bid slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he needs three diamonds so percentage is finesse of queen|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: yes that works as well Martin|pg||
nt|capercliff: no doub!!!!|pg||
nt|sharynr: I guess that is what happened martin, since daniel apologized|pg||
mb|d|nt|capercliff: must be joking|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: guess he didnt think he was taking even 1 @s trick|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that was the problem with 4@S, did not invite partner to participate|pg||
nt|capercliff: well he did open|pg||
nt|caitlin: brb...barbecue going:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: or at least try for it|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3 S  strong H raise|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: if Hanna is going to bid it should be 4@S|pg||
nt|glen: 4@S = he skipped a @H cuebid, since minimum for 3@S|pg||
nt|rlebi: he didnt bid 4@s,did he?|pg||
nt|glen: the question is whether he plays serious 3NT or not|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he might have based on hand overall minimum|pg||
nt|glen: i.e. EW|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|caitlin: 3@S was expected|pg||
nt|caitlin: a splinter with 4+ hearts|pg||
nt|gowdy: no 3S artifical|pg||
nt|caitlin: oh|pg||
nt|gowdy: smolen|pg||
nt|caitlin: smolen?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a splinter, can be balanced or singleton spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or perhaps unspecified splinter|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2NT asks for a second suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: just in case partner has both majors|pg||
nt|rlebi: not too many imps gonna swing on this one|pg||
pc|c4|nt|gambit: trump switch?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe heart to king now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: many ways to play that bid|pg||
nt|rlebi: running low on boards|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: NV vs vul, shows 8 major cards and a lot of hope :)|pg||
nt|capercliff: from N's perspective his partner is weak for 4@s|pg||
nt|raghavan: If at all I have to bid - I will bid 4S - He has 2 Spades but no guarentee that E will have 2 Hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: serious 3nt would help a lot on this specific auction|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: well not sure what turner signal meant|pg||
nt|bbramley: will the bridge cops let them finish?|pg||
nt|starkist: flash suggested tree climb good for that area|pg||
nt|rlebi: there is a precedent for that|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: hughes knows the entries wrong for trump leads|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah i think a trump lead on the go was best from his hand|pg||
nt|gavin: when partner bids vul against not , its very likely he was bidding to make|pg||
nt|gambit: Diamond to the queen/ King...then trump from my good friend, David Turner |pg||
nt|caitlin: Welcome gambit (Cam French)|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is the Canadian Society of Commentators CSofC:)|pg||
nt|gambit: TY Caitlin great to see my compatriots competing|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|rlebi: l'ecuyer could slow down the pace - while in the lead - run em out of time|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d3|nt|gowdy: yes 3 of the other major after 2c and a major response is artifical showing the strongest support raise |pg||
nt|fabsayc: here comes an imp|pg||
nt|bbramley: close matches automatically slow down at the end - and why not? when you KNOW it's close you grind out every imp|pg||
pc|d2|nt|gavin: in fact his only chance on this hand is to actually draw trumps then eventually guess clubs|pg||
nt|caitlin: end of first period 0-0 btw|pg||
nt|gavin: thx|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
nt|gavin: he was hoping to see singleton jack of hearts so he could go over to dummy to lead clubs up twice (once with heart and once with diamond)|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|gambit: what does he pitch? all cards have a value....|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so 1100 turned into 400|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|gavin: this play would have him make the contract if kjx of diamonds were onside|pg||
nt|gambit: club|pg||
nt|gambit: and spade exit|pg||
nt|gavin: the play doenst matter much at this point he will just lose 2 clubs|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gavin: one goes on diamond ace and one ruffed|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|raghavan: claim time|pg||
pc|d6|nt|bbramley: i think they should allow some extra time in the last stanza of a match|pg||
pc|dK|nt|caitlin: spade now |pg||
nt|gavin: now if hughest plays a diamond declarer wont lose another club|pg||
nt|starkist: lets petition for it|pg||
nt|rlebi: the directors get hungry, thats what matters, doesn't it?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|caitlin: he wouldn't|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|capercliff: how did they make 3NT they will ask when comparing|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|bbramley: matches have run late forever - it's not a new thing|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o55|st||md|1SKT843HKJ2D5CQ742,S6HAT64DKT632CAKT,SQJH9853DAQ8CJ985,SA9752HQ7DJ974C63|sv|b|nt|hedyg: E bid double over 4@c in CR and they are in 4@s X by W now|pg||
nt|jtr: There is something to be said for not opening a minimum NT in 3rd or 4th with a five card major|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "if he doubles I would have bid 4@s" Ekeblad: "i had 5 trumps ... knew they had a better spot"|pg||
nt|jtr: If you get to game it will be on minimum values and a 5-3 fit may prove superior|pg||
nt|barnets: in 4@SX in closed in the last board|pg||
nt|scotty: Hamman did not finesse @h because he did not want to lose 4 easy tricks (@dA, ruff, @hK, ruff).  No way could he expect Ekeblad to hold FIVE hearts|pg||
nt|daman: maybe a @D partial for EW now?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "I don't think you could do much better" W: "if I lead a club he's in terrible shape" E: "you had 2 trump tricks against spades?" Z: "but not much more"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|scotty: West has classical rebid problem.  Bobby Levein bid 2@c on a similar hand a couple of days ago|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: Levin, sorry|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Unable to bid 2@d but cant he puppet with 2@c?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|hedyg: only if wants to play 2@d|pg||
nt|jtr: Doesnt he?|pg||
nt|hedyg: seems not|pg||
nt|jtr: Well, he does now|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
nt|barnets: right|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|scotty: Rebidding 1N with a stiff can be fine, and rebidding 2M with 5 can too - but not both together.  This is really a partnership issue, not a right/wrong issue|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|hedyg: quite so but maybe not with those @ss ?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia asking W if he's really out|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|scotty: I don't think E had a way to play 2@d in their system|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Now Ekeblad asks also :)|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|scotty: I think 2@c is invitational checkback, not forcing 2@d|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|jtr: ok|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jtr: Makes sense|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: it was alerted as such last time he bid it|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|hT|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c55|st||md|1SKT843HKJ2D5CQ742,S6HAT64DKT632CAKT,SQJH9853DAQ8CJ985,SA9752HQ7DJ974C63|sv|b|nt|sharynr: good result for E-W|pg||
nt|glen: for serious 3NT, see part 1 of the famous Gitelman articles: http://www.imp-bridge.nl/articles/2over1.htm|pg||
nt|starkist: it's 8pm there now|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but penticton closes at 10PM|pg||
nt|starkist: haha|pg||
nt|susieq: well, the casino stays open until 2pm|pg||
mb|1H!|an|could be canape|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 3@d here on the way?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 4@S makeable|pg||
nt|capercliff: maybe is not forcing |pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 4@D if fit showing|pg||
nt|gavin: interesting choice in the other room to bid garbage stayman with this hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6@D or 6NT cold|pg||
nt|raghavan: should bid 2S |pg||
nt|mcarroll: Courtesy raise|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna may get shut out now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and preemptive|pg||
nt|raghavan: 2S only |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@S or some mixed raise|pg||
nt|rlebi: they will open E hand at other table|pg||
nt|glen: sure, but 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|rlebi: 2:00 am?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes|pg||
nt|susieq: right yes|pg||
nt|starkist: 2pm for a casino is kinda strict|pg||
mb|1S!|an|3+!s, non-forcing|nt|gavin: ive never rlly thought of doing it on a 3352|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: yes even better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: seems just plain weird|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not really garbage stayman, intent is to pass any rebid|pg||
nt|caitlin: lucky entry to diamonds with a heart|pg||
nt|gavin: isnt that what garbage stayman is ? sry if i missspoke|pg||
nt|caitlin: well Gavin I call it that|pg||
nt|fabsayc: KCB will identify a possible loser, so no 7|pg||
nt|gavin: this is a baby slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: 3nt here is a brick   4 H is in some trouble|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is away from the city so does not disturb anybody|pg||
nt|susieq: 2am is too... here they never close|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|gavin: and easy to avoid 7 as martin said|pg||
nt|gavin: but its definitely good practise to play 6NT|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 imps better and safer|pg||
nt|gavin: 2 imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|raghavan: good bid by N|pg||
nt|rlebi: big potential  swing hand here|pg||
nt|rlebi: very easy to get to nonmaking Slam |pg||
pc|sQ|nt|mcarroll: 5@H too expensive a sacrifice|pg||
nt|raghavan: S should pass|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3nt only makes because diamonds blocked and club jack onside, single dummy 4@H looks better|pg||
nt|gowdy: @D blocked  le tthem set them up  3nt is on the J or no club lead|pg||
nt|starkist: we play this position 10-12, cowards|pg||
mc|9|nt|caitlin: but I know many WC Cohen Gitelman Bergen etc who call it takeout of 2C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: complications now|pg||
nt|raghavan: oh???|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Oh oh|pg||
pg||
qx|o56|st||md|2SQJ32HK6DK987C853,S975HJT3DAQJ652CJ,SK64HA9874D4CAK42,SAT8HQ52DT3CQT976|sv|o|nt|scotty: That is likely to be about 7 imps for Fleisher|pg||
nt|daman: Zia should preempt|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: and they have agreat chance to amke 4@SX in previous board|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@h?|pg||
nt|jtr: North|pg||
nt|hedyg: we are missing a pass|pg||
mb|2H!|an|5+ !hs, 4+ !ca, 10-15 I think|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: hhrrrmmm|pg||
nt|hedyg: 10-15|pg||
nt|scotty: Zia will be annoyed he's playing Flannery, here|pg||
mb|3D|nt|jtr: He didnt open 3@d because he is 3-3 in the majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Facing  a non-passed partner|pg||
mb|3N|nt|jtr: Wow!|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Where did Hamman find that?????|pg||
mb|4D|nt|daman: did he really bid that?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: 4@d is right|pg||
nt|jtr: makes 8@d:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: surprising program accepts two 4@d bids|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: there's that weird bug again - once I repeated a whole auction because it didn't show on my screen and it let me|pg||
nt|hedyg: usually doesnt|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman: "sorry"|pg||
nt|scotty: It's possible Hamman didn't see he was a passed hand.  I've done that myself before.  It's especially likely to happen with screens, where West's initial pass doesn't get pushed ...|pg||
nt|scotty: through the whole way|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "I'm a passed hand, Bob"|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: must be|pg||
nt|jtr: Zia thinks the same way Michael:)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
nt|hedyg: this can happen to anybody|pg||
nt|hedyg: even Michael!!|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|h3|pg||
nt|scotty: In the 2004 Trials, Zia didn't notice that he had passed himself!|pg||
nt|ritong: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|jtr: lol|pg||
nt|barnets: but e/w now have a run of 3 good boards and big plus positions|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Weichsel has @s Q & 2 on end of hand, deciding|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|jtr: I think 3NT was somewhat speculative anyway|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|dT|nt|barnets: sorry n/s that should be|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|hedyg: also remember that they have been playing 4 handed for the last..how many boards?|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|jtr: 9,897|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|jtr: seems like anyway|pg||
nt|scotty: Ekeblad's final double may look obvious, but there is still an element of bravery there (or at least avoidance of cowardice) |pg||
mc|7|nt|Vugraphu1: Hamman: "3 down? Sorry"|pg||
pg||
qx|c56|st||md|2SQJ32HK6DK987C853,S975HJT3DAQJ652CJ,SK64HA9874D4CAK42,SAT8HQ52DT3CQT976|sv|o|nt|gavin: right|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well he could have gone down 1|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 10 for the omment|pg||
nt|gavin: impossible play of a diamond, even if declarer has 2 D it would cost him a trick|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: moment|pg||
nt|fabsayc: was a guess on a random jack|pg||
nt|caitlin: good try by defense|pg||
mb|3D|nt|caitlin: Karen, our operator is hereby reigned as an honoURary Canadian:)|pg||
mb|d|nt|gavin: 4 imps at stake if ew find the sac, and then if north south compete to 5|pg||
nt|gavin: undoubtedly will not bid 5 over 5|pg||
nt|caitlin: 3@C??|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@S went down on diamond queen lead where leader had 10xxx in spades|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|gavin: would get very lucky to make|pg||
nt|gavin: pass pass double i predict|pg||
nt|raghavan: Grand slam on a finesse will they bid or stop in 6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: result not horrible, ew were making 4@D|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@C majors, so hughes avoids spades|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Lots of big @D fits in this set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nickell 38 jacobs 25 in US2|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
nt|gavin: ok double |pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: W has a very good hand for 1N, almost too strong|pg||
nt|raghavan: martin agreed but he need not waste his S K|pg||
nt|rlebi: onwards to game now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually 2@S would be forcing, but grainger a passed hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, and does a @H lead from W set up the 4th trick?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nt range?|pg||
nt|bbramley: a normal unlucky game here|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: 11-13|pg||
mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|gavin: wow!!!!|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 2@S crowds the auction|pg||
pc|cA|nt|gavin: 3S!!!!|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 4H|pg||
nt|gowdy: x|pg||
nt|caitlin: Board 22, E-W in 3N in OR|pg||
nt|caitlin: here in 2@S|pg||
nt|starkist: easier to bid other table playing 12 14|pg||
pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: this looks down 3|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to overtake to play a club, easy play|pg||
nt|gavin: to overtake|pg||
nt|gavin: hard to decide wheather to play hearts or clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: seems like u can see that if u start hearts their club losers can go away|pg||
nt|fabsayc: somehow silver made 6nt on 23|pg||
nt|gavin: very rare that u will need to take heart ruff and u dont get clubs back as a trade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: which looks impossible unless a club opening lead|pg||
nt|gavin: a club lead is impossible|pg||
nt|gavin: but playing 6nt over 6s seems bizarre|pg||
nt|gavin: and a club lead vs 6s is impossible as well|pg||
nt|gavin: ok so the lecuyer team actually leads by 26|pg||
nt|fabsayc: impossible no. just strange|pg||
nt|raghavan: now go for slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not easy from here|pg||
nt|mcarroll: far from easy|pg||
nt|gowdy: Hi guys   I think 2@S was 3 controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hey Gowdy:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: welcome home|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam yes, but finding what is needed for 7 a headache|pg||
nt|caitlin: are you home?|pg||
nt|caitlin: I missed you:))|pg||
nt|caitlin: lol|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy and I teach together|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi John|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even tougher if controls|pg||
nt|caitlin: this is John Gowdy a World Class expert who has coached every type of Canadian team|pg||
nt|glen: no, it looks like just 3 tricks|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|capercliff: looks like it was E that was thinking|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this has worked nicely|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Low @H lead beats it|pg||
nt|gavin: 7 card suit for me is game opposite a limit raise|pg||
nt|gavin: no matter how bad my hand is|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe 3@C game forcing|pg||
nt|caitlin: agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: repeated diamond leads would beat this hand i think|pg||
nt|glen: swing to Carruthers|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not that hanna has any reason to find that defense|pg||
nt|glen: so 12+13|pg||
nt|glen: on boards 6+7|pg||
pc|d4|nt|fabsayc: robinson 83 fleisher 33 in USA1|pg||
nt|fabsayc: has 9 runners|pg||
nt|capercliff: or small @h next?|pg||
pc|d3|nt|caitlin: oh no|pg||
nt|mcarroll: yes if controls in @C they are useless|pg||
nt|caitlin: that helps Hanna|pg||
nt|raghavan: w = 5D|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Yes now he knows his controls are working|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bid deliberately to push board?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|gavin: impossible because i know how they play|pg||
nt|gowdy: we E after 5D may could be off AK of S|pg||
nt|glen: and the 7NT board up next at the other table|pg||
nt|mittmouse: he might make wo a c lead|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Not after @H9 played|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah could be GF 3C bid|pg||
pc|s7|nt|capercliff: yes always stiff|pg||
nt|capercliff: 10 if small @h|pg||
nt|gavin: i grew up with david and dan playing junior bridge|pg||
nt|starkist: they got to slam obviously, down with the club finesse off|pg||
nt|gavin: david my oldest regular partner|pg||
nt|mittmouse: hi guys|pg||
pc|sK|nt|gowdy: but  now 5@S|pg||
nt|mittmouse: niv|pg||
pc|sA|nt|starkist: shaky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome George|pg||
nt|gavin: georgieeeee|pg||
nt|glen: not that we don't like you 6 specs remaining|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|gavin: now jh|pg||
nt|gavin: to get out of the way|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes, else down 2|pg||
nt|gavin: or else they will be unable to seperate them later|pg||
nt|gavin: standout play|pg||
nt|gavin: jurek knows that darren doesnt have the ace of clubs|pg||
nt|gavin: fromt he 8 return|pg||
nt|mittmouse: nice play|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h3|nt|rlebi: 4@S here is a great result|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes no defense now|pg||
nt|starkist: oh|pg||
nt|rlebi: 8 @s better|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|gowdy: so well bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: indeed|pg||
nt|fabsayc: controls identified now|pg||
pc|s4|nt|mittmouse: much better|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: oh maybe i am wrong|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|sharynr: sorry, been on the phone|pg||
pc|dK|nt|caitlin: then Turner MIGHT cue @CK|pg||
nt|rlebi: the partys .... over ???|pg||
nt|starkist: back in the dumper|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 10 imps to lecuyer running out of boards|pg||
pc|dA|nt|fabsayc: heart ruff diamond back, heart|pg||
pc|s6|nt|fabsayc: next :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i did last weeks dishes :)|pg||
nt|glen: ruffs next @H with @S T|pg||
nt|glen: cashes @S K|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no still ok|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok, careful defense to win 5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|mittmouse: ithink both defenders were wrong silver should have played 8 of s and carruthers should have played a club back anyways|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d8|nt|caitlin: wd|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: Looking for board 12 - maybe at other table|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: slight break in the action :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 7 imps to Carruthers on 7 - chipping away at the lead|pg||
nt|caitlin: rehi Gowdy|pg||
nt|rlebi: therefore they are a well matched pair|pg||
nt|mittmouse: right|pg||
nt|starkist: voids the arguement|pg||
nt|bbramley: if declarer had the @CA and enough tricks to make he wouldn't have ducked at trick 1|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|gowdy: Hobart is up 46 38 in the Senior event|pg||
pc|h7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h8|mc|10|nt|caitlin: versus Jotcham|pg||
pg||
qx|o57|st||md|3SA93HK7DJ8642CA85,SJT8HQJ63DK93CK32,SQ42HAT8542DQ7C97,SK765H9DAT5CQJT64|sv|e|nt|scotty: After a 2@d opening by West, N-S may reach 3@s - though they may make it, too|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|can be short|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|jtr: they may reach 3NT |pg||
mb|p|an|could RDBL with 3 !hs|nt|jtr: Fancy a flutter Michael?|pg||
nt|scotty: Which way?|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: my 3NT vs your 3@s|pg||
nt|scotty: you mean the last board?|pg||
nt|jtr: Yes|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|barnets: I am told rbin revoked on board 54|pg||
nt|scotty: I don't think they play weak 2@d either.  I was just talking generally|pg||
nt|barnets: rubin revoked |pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
nt|daman: I wonder if the score is correct in the CR on the last board    I thought he was making 4@S X  it shows him -2|pg||
nt|daman: ahhh|pg||
nt|barnets: going down 2 in 4@SX instead of making it|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
nt|scotty: in 4@s doubled on 54?|pg||
nt|hedyg: yes|pg||
nt|daman: yes|pg||
nt|barnets: yes |pg||
nt|barnets: he had it made but then revoked it seems|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|barnets: so hes getting tired also|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jtr: 2 more sets today|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|scotty: i hope that doesn't decide the match.  I have always been against the "automatic" revoke penalty.  And I virtually never accept it, which is probably illegal|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|barnets: this is his 11th day of non stop bridge|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jtr: Up to you at teams  Should be illegal at MPs|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|barnets: in 2001 he also played 11 days and lost two finals with ekeblad and granovetter in the team|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
nt|jtr: I remember two punters playing high stakes rubber Bridge  One revoked and an opponent tried to claim a penalty|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
mc|7|nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "how many tricks do we have? 3? I'm going to take 3 more"|pg||
nt|jtr: The partner rof the revokee said "We dont play revokes"  the claimer's partner agreed|pg||
pg||
qx|c57|st||md|3SA93HK7DJ8642CA85,SJT8HQJ63DK93CK32,SQ42HAT8542DQ7C97,SK765H9DAT5CQJT64|sv|e|nt|capercliff: another 3N contract|pg||
nt|sharynr: it looks like my Bd 22 prediction was right at least.|pg||
nt|caitlin: but with long spades not much else probably happier to bid 4|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is not a commanding lead|pg||
nt|gowdy: ya  and that was going to be my team till it was not :(|pg||
nt|rlebi: wk nt|pg||
nt|glen: btw I'm watching the other room with the Chrome browser, and BBO (Fred, Uday etc.) have done great work supporting multiple browers - BBO is very fast in google's browser Chrome|pg||
nt|bbramley: 30 imps, 5 boards to go|pg||
mb|2H|nt|gavin: looks like the defense can hold this to 4 with a spade lead|pg||
nt|gavin: 4H looks like a pretty good spot, as does 5D but it looks like nothing can make|pg||
nt|raghavan: a dangerous hand for NS|pg||
nt|raghavan: may land in 6H with bad results|pg||
nt|mcarroll: very true|pg||
nt|gowdy: now this " slam"  won't be as much fun|pg||
nt|mcarroll: their best suit fit is full of holes|pg||
mb|d|mb|3H|nt|gavin: though the diamonds look like a standout from south, leavin north up to cashing the ace of spades when he gets in with the ace of hearts or it goes away|pg||
nt|rlebi: how many???|pg||
nt|fabsayc: two way stayman|pg||
nt|bbramley: can E/W get to 3NT?|pg||
nt|bbramley: not any more!|pg||
mb|3N|nt|fabsayc: north must have underlead spade when in with heart ace|pg||
nt|glen: 1NT is 12-14, 2@D game forcing stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact ew in the open room freely bid themselves to 5, lucky to survive|pg||
nt|caitlin: @DQ led and then declarer claimed it seems???|pg||
nt|gavin: though unlucky to catch AD opposite void|pg||
nt|gavin: specs suggesting 3nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3nt will make|pg||
nt|caitlin: So Czyz is from Ottawa|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Not the Roland F wor?>|pg||
nt|raghavan: No they may stop in 4H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 6NT is better but down also|pg||
nt|caitlin: capitol of Canada|pg||
nt|gowdy: Is this flannery  or weak with Majors |pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@H shows 5-4 or vul 5-5|pg||
nt|caitlin: that is some strong 2@H bid|pg||
nt|caitlin: 2@S anyone?|pg||
nt|rlebi: the answer was 3|pg||
nt|gambit: other table 5c -1 |pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: or operator missed auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|sharynr: good spot|pg||
nt|gavin: seems hard to unravvel your tricks but i guess they end up just coming to you|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 44 possible not vul|pg||
nt|caitlin: not necessarily so weak|pg||
nt|mcarroll: It will be very hard for S to stop in game opposite an opening bid|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: going out on a limb and predicting this will make in under 5 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: do you believe that story?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: they claimed very fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: Gowdy the teacher may approve  that having another Major- I should not pre empt. Also here N has 11 points|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is the best one we have seen|pg||
nt|caitlin: no 2@H shows both majors|pg||
nt|raghavan: Oh are they playing Flannery?|pg||
nt|caitlin: either 5-4 or vul 5-5 or non vul could even be 4-4|pg||
nt|caitlin: no|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not Flannery, is called Ekren in Europe|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the winning amount|pg||
nt|rlebi: oops|pg||
nt|rlebi: just right|pg||
pc|h9|nt|capercliff: N/S playing 2/1?|pg||
nt|glen: so he drops 2@Ss, 2@Hs, and ummm?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|gowdy: if 2 D shows a bad weak two  then 2 H shows a very good one|pg||
pc|h7|nt|sharynr: i think you are right!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a bit harder from south seat|pg||
nt|gavin: yeh seems fine to win in either hand and knock out the king of diamonds, eventually u just cash your tricks and exit with a heart and the defense will be forced to give you your ...|pg||
nt|gavin: club and spade trick in dummy|pg||
nt|bbramley: on their way to 300|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|fabsayc: 2@C can be singleton, 2@D rebid promises 4|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: yes, 2c can be 2 or more|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4531 i think would rebid 2@C also|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: at least i think that's Wolpert just said :)|pg||
nt|caitlin: why? North wins HA can play SA|pg||
nt|caitlin: ooooooops|pg||
nt|mcarroll: here we go|pg||
nt|raghavan: Putting head under a sword?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: misplaced major jack, else a reasonable slam|pg||
nt|gowdy: this should be double key card     6 key card  4 aces and 2 major suit kings|pg||
nt|caitlin: I wonder if this is asking re: 5 controls for hearts and spades|pg||
nt|caitlin: 6 I mean:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: could be double key card, not clear which suit is agreed|pg||
nt|caitlin: hearts|pg||
pc|h2|nt|gavin: after the 1D opening bid, south definitely should not lead a diamond|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or underlead it for the set|pg||
nt|gavin: needs to pick from his doubletons|pg||
nt|gowdy: 11 to 13 |pg||
nt|caitlin: ok|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed vul against not with defense no reason to bid 4|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|caitlin: he did not cash SA|pg||
nt|gavin: wrong one , now cyz has to cash ace of spades to hold to 5 |pg||
nt|gavin: fly ace|pg||
nt|gavin: in fact north should fly ace of hearts and play a club|pg||
nt|caitlin: on this lead clubs going nowhere nor hearts for defense..more likely to cash out|pg||
nt|caitlin: why Gavin?|pg||
nt|caitlin: this could be singleton?|pg||
nt|gavin: cause of the lead ?|pg||
nt|caitlin: :))|pg||
nt|gavin: maybe in 4 that isnt such a winning defence since the club ruff would be 3rd trick, he needs a spade honor from partner to beat|pg||
nt|gavin: so might as well hope its kx and thats why partner was afraid to lead it|pg||
nt|caitlin: what is 5@S?|pg||
nt|mcarroll: If they get to 6@H E will be very careful not to double in case they run to a making 6NT|pg||
nt|raghavan: what does 5S mean |pg||
nt|glen: bonus for operator: play will be quick|pg||
pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: on this type of auction clubs often the weakest suit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: if responder has club fit would tend to rebid 2@S not 2nt|pg||
nt|capercliff: Wolpert taking his time with this one|pg||
nt|capercliff: he will overtake and finesse I would think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: some minor communication issues|pg||
nt|mcarroll: On a @C lead will succeed if the !Q is played, which is I think the correct technical play|pg||
pc|c7|nt|fabsayc: now what?|pg||
nt|capercliff: bit of a surprise this, a @c from the east hand cant hurt him|pg||
nt|caitlin: makes sense|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hanna needs to pitch a diamond if 3rd heart lead|pg||
nt|rlebi: i hear the fat lady warming up ..|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|capercliff: assuming he overtakes and finesses the @d again|pg||
pc|c4|nt|raghavan: Martin you are right as always|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this one is good to read the Hobbit trilogy|pg||
nt|raghavan: I maeant NO DOUBLE|pg||
nt|caitlin: for sure no double|pg||
nt|caitlin: you never know if 6N will make which it does not here|pg||
nt|glen: in the other room, on board 8, they are also using the Green convention|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: director has been called|pg||
nt|glen: what for i wonder?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: a spade back would be embarassing if jack wrong|pg||
nt|mcarroll: small @H from N at trick 2 would have worked|pg||
nt|capercliff: yah and when @h are 4-1|pg||
nt|capercliff: 4-2 sry|pg||
nt|capercliff: if the K@c was wrong he could go off now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Would have 4@H,3@D 1@C and 1@S|pg||
nt|capercliff: overtaking with the J at trick one was 100%|pg||
nt|gowdy: 9 @C  and the @H now|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gavin: very thoughtfull play|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|c8|nt|glen: maybe its zero tolerance, as they have zero chance of beating the doubled contract|pg||
pc|cK|nt|mcarroll: True|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no overtrick|pg||
nt|susieq: was there a ruling?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: made 3 exactly|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: there was a one trick transfer by director, i don't know why, sorry|pg||
nt|rlebi: not likely|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|h4|nt|caitlin: there are SIX hungry university guys in my backyard doing the barbecue|pg||
nt|gavin: hughes sees that the one layout that will defeat him is 2 club ruffs|pg||
nt|gavin: so he ditches a club on the ace of diamonds and leads a heart up towards his hand (north is marked with ace of hearts from auction)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can make from here|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
nt|gavin: well played|pg||
nt|caitlin: when declaring you always have to think about worse case scenario|pg||
nt|caitlin: what if? what if?|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: lost the play on this one, too fast|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or in this case, best case, doubleton ace of hearts|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: sorry :(|pg||
nt|caitlin: np what is outcome?|pg||
nt|raghavan: I hope he plays H 6 on lead from N - then 3 down - |pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2 down|pg||
nt|caitlin: Karen we understand...I could NEVER do your job|pg||
nt|raghavan: sorry 2 down|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: likely a pus or 3 imps maximum|pg||
pc|s4|nt|capercliff: hmm the J is interesting, he must know declarer has the 10?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s3|nt|gowdy: the @C 2 was a mistake|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: conceed a diamond and claim|pg||
nt|capercliff: he got home anyway|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
nt|fabsayc: one more hazard|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|d3|mc|9|nt|fabsayc: this works too|pg||
pg||
qx|o58|st||md|4SKTHT9765DJ7CQ873,SA984HK2DQ843CAJ5,S53HAQ83DAT2CKT94,SQJ762HJ4DK965C62|sv|b|nt|jtr: Michael may remember that as he was around at the time|pg||
nt|xenya: seems N erred when he covered with the @SQ -- he could have made it -- but a nice @S10 from Zia|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|scotty: I would say north misguessed, rather than erred|pg||
nt|hedyg: not surprising|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Sorry, that ws the same as the two 4@d bids last hand - I looked up to see if I'd put in the Pass and it wasn't there - this room is getting hot because the AC is broken|pg||
nt|hedyg: hope you can change rooms for the next 2 segments|pg||
pc|hT|nt|xenya: right|pg||
nt|jtr: undo Jan please|pg||
nt|hedyg: Jan getting tired too|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|jtr: @sJ here|pg||
nt|jtr: Rather than Q|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|jtr: May get an inference about South;s King|pg||
nt|jtr: Maybe North will play one though|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphu1: Sorry, I lost track here - spade was played earlier|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|scotty: North certainly might have doubled 2@s here.  Whether to compete on these hands is always a difficult issue.  It would be most attractive if nobody were vul.  With both vul there ...|pg||
nt|scotty: is the most to lose - going for a number yourself, and failing to get 200 from the opponents if they are going down 2|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|mc|8|nt|ritong: no big deal jan  just claim the final result|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: You'll be happy to hear that a hotel person just came in to replenish our water and called engineering and we're now getting cold air :)|pg||
pg||
qx|c58|st||md|4SKTHT9765DJ7CQ873,SA984HK2DQ843CAJ5,S53HAQ83DAT2CKT94,SQJ762HJ4DK965C62|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: MAYBE!!|pg||
nt|gavin: so the actual score is 135-97|pg||
nt|fabsayc: push|pg||
nt|glen: could have been a misplayed card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|caitlin: I still wish I knew what 5@S response to 4N was|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|vugraphznx: they were discussing that here a bit|pg||
nt|fabsayc: more than he had?|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hanna seems to hold hearts a lot:)|pg||
nt|raghavan: I also want to know what 5S is|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Carruthers got another 5 imps on board 7|pg||
nt|caitlin: 4@S  E-W|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1@H, does not fit any other overcall|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: everyone agree with 2S?|pg||
nt|caitlin: by North?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is ok|pg||
nt|gavin: with 4 boards to go in the set|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe hanna should cash diamond before returning the club|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure which way denies the club doubleton|pg||
nt|fabsayc: penalty card in hearts maybe|pg||
nt|glen: poor other table, when they try to work that out|pg||
nt|glen: 1 hour from now|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hey tough enough here|pg||
nt|bbramley: slam on 2 finesses, or 1 finesse and a miracle @D guess|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|gavin: wolpert bid 1NT here because he didnt think he was good enough for 2H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 3@H also ok|pg||
nt|gavin: aggressive 4S bid|pg||
nt|gavin: rlly hate that bid|pg||
mb|2S|nt|gavin: and instead of risking his partner raising 1S to 2S and playing the wrong fit, he bid 1NT|pg||
nt|gavin: on that lead declarer will likely go 2 down, take a spade finesse|pg||
nt|bbramley: but only 30 HCP and no extra shape - it's a bad slam and normal to stay out of it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Seemingly W cannot pass 2@C?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 800 possible|pg||
nt|caitlin: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i doubt i would want to ever pass 3nt|pg||
nt|gavin: though the defense will need to cash their tricks int he right order|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in open room Joey opened 2@D and auction crowded opponents|pg||
nt|caitlin: can set up hearts to make 4S|pg||
nt|glen: btw board 8 is a push in 7NT, unless misplayed now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 3@C blocking bid but sometimes taken seriously|pg||
nt|gavin: easy to allow them to escape for 1 down by trying to cash 2 hearts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: would be a better contract if north had 2 hearts and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|gowdy: the A  then the 9  the green plays the last @H|pg||
nt|glen: nope, claim eliminated misplay chance|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: he can pass, and will when happy to see opponents bid|pg||
nt|fabsayc: maybe more|pg||
nt|starkist: omg|pg||
nt|caitlin: right|pg||
pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: 2@H is weird|pg||
nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i guess 1@S can be a four card suit for them|pg||
nt|gowdy: normal   canadian  hmmm |pg||
nt|starkist: it's the exchange rate|pg||
nt|bbramley: north must be worth another try, assuming that 2@C was GF|pg||
nt|gracelin: both 6H / 6NT forced to make on DQ lead :)|pg||
nt|gracelin: srry, private|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes|pg||
nt|bbramley: any time, patrick :)|pg||
nt|starkist: 4n coming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 4@C|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hearts so much better here|pg||
nt|starkist: 13 imps|pg||
nt|gavin: better but still grim|pg||
nt|gavin: here it is no play|pg||
nt|gavin: like most of the time|pg||
nt|gavin: he is not playing with someone who is afraid to bid|pg||
nt|mittmouse: club back is best then 3 down|pg||
nt|gavin: needs a pure 3S bid to have hope|pg||
nt|susieq: when in doubt, claim|pg||
pc|s2|nt|capercliff: wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: well this does have a play of sorts, but will fail|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Very lucky with the @C position|pg||
pc|sT|nt|fabsayc: needs miracles including clubs 2-2 onside i believe|pg||
nt|capercliff: so long as N goes low with a @c|pg||
nt|capercliff: if N doesnt play small it will come in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no|pg||
nt|caitlin: hmmmm|pg||
nt|gowdy: nice auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: if he gets to 6 withqof d lead and he ducks and w returns the 9 of clubs he may still go down playing for a squeeze|pg||
pc|sA|nt|glen: also when in 7NT, claim|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|caitlin: hey there fish...you finished in Open?|pg||
nt|caitlin: missed opportunity|pg||
nt|fabsayc: ok i claim 5@C|pg||
pc|s9|nt|fabsayc: still losers in diamond to deal with|pg||
nt|gowdy: rebidding your 7 card suit ?  not so so thats bad|pg||
nt|fabsayc: still gaining imps however|pg||
nt|caitlin: true|pg||
pc|s5|nt|sharynr: sorry folks....gotta make dinner. Enjoy|pg||
nt|starkist: they ran out of hands|pg||
nt|caitlin: Carruthers team is going to have their work cut out this eve|pg||
nt|rlebi: 12 tricks now|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|gavin: hard hand|pg||
nt|caitlin: and that is the name of the game|pg||
nt|caitlin: so far 18 vs 9 IMPs to L'Ecuyer|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|mittmouse: 4 down|pg||
nt|gavin: 3 down for 10 imps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: right but 2@H is going nowhere with a promising hand|pg||
pc|c3|nt|gavin: south had a tough problem, conflicting rules|pg||
nt|gavin: most often when you have a 4-4 fit and a 5-3 fit you want to play the 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|gavin: though from the bidding there was a good chance his partner was 6-4, and with such bad spades it hink he made the wrong decision|pg||
nt|mittmouse: no 3|pg||
nt|raghavan: Hanna will make 3 only|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|gavin: 135-107|pg||
pc|cK|nt|caitlin: and use 5-3 to dump losers if possible|pg||
nt|gavin: here north didnt even introduce spades|pg||
nt|rlebi: 37 imps with 3 boards|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|harmon: Hey everyone|pg||
pc|c9|nt|fabsayc: ultralight 1nt stole board 12, carruthers missed game|pg||
nt|caitlin: Harmon sorry this table ONLY for Canadian citizens|pg||
nt|starkist: 1@h 1n 2@s 2n* 3@h 4@s|pg||
pc|c6|nt|fabsayc: david is going to wish he kept that exit card|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
nt|mittmouse: in this position hughes should return the count 2 of h|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o59|st||md|1SK9864HD853CAK964,SA5HKT4DQJ62CQ852,SJT3HQJ8752DT7CT3,SQ72HA963DAK94CJ7|sv|o|nt|hedyg: great!|pg||
mb|2C!|an|10-15 6+ 1cs or 5+ 1ss & 4! !cs|nt|jtr: 2@s here?|pg||
nt|jtr: ah 2@c|pg||
nt|ritong: weird|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c= 6@cs or 5@s + 4 @c|pg||
nt|hedyg: 10-15|pg||
nt|jtr: Thanks Hedy|pg||
mb|p|nt|scotty: Rubin's revoke on Board 54 cost 21 imps, so if Fleisher loses by fewer than 21imps, I can probably add at least 6 people who will join my campaign to get the revoke law changed |pg||
mb|2D|an|!hs|nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|ritong: on brd 56 ekeblad opened 2@h with @hs and @cs, why not the same here with @ss|pg||
mb|d|mb|2H|an|1ss|mb|2S|nt|jtr: Maybe email them Henri and tell them to change the system as it confuses you:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: because they play 2@D as @H+@D and 2@H as @H+@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Missed the double|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Director has said that he is cancelling 1 pass from each side because of the failure to alert.|pg||
mb|3H|nt|jtr: Jan|pg||
nt|ritong: well, there was a rational explanation|pg||
nt|jtr: 2@s North i imagine|pg||
nt|ritong: they might play some form of gazzilli where 2@c rebid is artificial|pg||
nt|hedyg: pls undo?|pg||
nt|barnets: when zia could not open 2@D and they were oubled in 4 rubin opened 3@D an n/s plated 3@S and di well to make 10 tricks|pg||
nt|ritong: then, having an opening for two suiters major/@cs makes sense|pg||
nt|scotty: Maybe Ekeblad just feels he can handle it this way, and also play weak 2@s|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont think Zia bid 2@s|pg||
nt|jtr: You win Michael|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Director is being called because apparently 2@h was alerted on the SW side of the screen and not on the NE and Bob doesn't know what it meant|pg||
nt|hedyg: who bid 2@s?|pg||
nt|barnets: that held the loss to 8 imps|pg||
nt|barnets: Nickell now by 3|pg||
nt|jtr: Not West|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: 2@h showed spades, so 2@s was a cue bid, not natural, but Bob didn't know.|pg||
nt|jtr: Oh he did?|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@H cuebid?|pg||
nt|jtr: Does Hamman know North showed @hs?|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: I think that everyone now knows what has been shown by the NS auction|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|barnets: 3N by east may have a shot|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|jtr: Cant see a way of beating it|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Zia asks Peter whether he showed and opening hand. Peter: "10 to a bad 16"|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|barnets: maybe zia had to bid 3@S to get hamman to bid 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: that still did not give Hamman a @c stopper|pg||
nt|hedyg: and Weichsel did promise @cs as well|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Now we have an engineer in the room taking apart the whole A/C unit to fix it|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "what is your count, upside down?" "yes"|pg||
nt|jtr: Keep us informed Jan:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
nt|scotty: It wouldn't be THAT amazing for N-S to bid 1@s-1N, 2@c-2@s here, with E-W never getting in the bidding|pg||
nt|daman: going to make 3NT on 58 in the CR|pg||
nt|daman: sorry   57|pg||
nt|barnets: clubs and another suit  this time|pg||
nt|haans: :)|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: The engineer has drained a bucket of dirty water from  the A/C and gone to empty it in th bathroom|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|barnets: sorry priv answer|pg||
nt|ritong: lol|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: 2@D did not show @Hs, it was asking relay|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|jtr: ah|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|d9|nt|hedyg: acc to the system card|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s4|nt|scotty: Hmm. 3N made with 20 HCP after both opponents made a preemptive call - could that be another example of my theory :preempts don't always work"?|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
mc|9|nt|Vugraphu1: Zia: "had to bid NT"|pg||
pg||
qx|c59|st||md|1SK9864HD853CAK964,SA5HKT4DQJ62CQ852,SJT3HQJ8752DT7CT3,SQ72HA963DAK94CJ7|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: i am pretty sure was best to ruff third spade with heart nine and exit with a heart|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|starkist: down, hard to lead the @st to make|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes passport controls as of June 1|pg||
mb|1N|nt|gavin: hey harmon|pg||
nt|gavin: if north south can find hearts they make a LOT|pg||
nt|starkist: disaster other table|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 3@D very strange contract|pg||
nt|gavin: looks like atleast 10 tricks|pg||
nt|starkist: 2@c is majors, shd survive|pg||
nt|fabsayc: great hand for an ace underlead by Darren against 4@S|pg||
nt|fabsayc: korbel has a double, although a shakey one|pg||
nt|rlebi: here the swing hand we were looking for|pg||
nt|rlebi: here's|pg||
mb|d|nt|rlebi: std dbl|pg||
mb|2C|nt|caitlin: for this set|pg||
mb|d|nt|rlebi: relay to 2@c|pg||
nt|glen: rdbl is likely a 1 suit runout here|pg||
mb|2S|nt|fabsayc: ok i respond 1@H|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and expect to survive|pg||
nt|gavin: opposite a passed hand, I really like 2NT opening with west hand|pg||
nt|starkist: wow|pg||
nt|starkist: just what the doctor ordered|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcbruce:  This would be a good time to thank the commentators and the operators, who did a good job for us for two days!|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: with direct bids two suited brozel or similar|pg||
nt|glen: they could play dont, as in dont double us|pg||
nt|starkist: You too Bruce|pg||
mb|3S|nt|fabsayc: the transfer advance |pg||
mb|p|nt|starkist: they did other table|pg||
nt|caitlin: close round so far L'Ecuyer 15; Carruthers 13|pg||
nt|fabsayc: even first or second|pg||
nt|starkist: seems normal|pg||
nt|raghavan: unfortunate lead -Clubs will be set up hoping DK entry|pg||
mb|3N|nt|starkist: thanks Karen, you're good|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: good auction|pg||
nt|mittmouse: wd in the bidding|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h not that auto against strong nt|pg||
nt|fabsayc: fourth best|pg||
nt|rlebi: a little rich i think|pg||
nt|fabsayc: that is why i said double was shakey, is really at bottom end in tricks|pg||
nt|glen: some specs like 2@SX for NS better|pg||
nt|fabsayc: yes +300|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: hey Detroit is on a power play|pg||
nt|gavin: shorthanded goal incoming|pg||
nt|gavin: a little malkin breakaway|pg||
nt|starkist: cant type with fingers crossed|pg||
nt|caitlin: there will hardly be a break.......next round in 40 minutes|pg||
nt|fabsayc: http://www.cbf.ca/BWeek/09files/BWeek09_results.html for times and results|pg||
nt|caitlin: for whom Tony?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: next set at 7PM pacific time|pg||
nt|caitlin: or 10 pm Eastern |pg||
nt|caitlin: whichever you prefer:)|pg||
nt|rlebi: the winning lead|pg||
nt|starkist: knew you were talented before, add this to the list|pg||
mb|p|nt|caitlin: hard to go wrong here|pg||
nt|starkist: can't say, I'm afraid to rile the pitt fans|pg||
nt|caitlin: no more Detroit ones here|pg||
nt|starkist: proximity|pg||
nt|caitlin: let's have specs clap if for Pittsburgh.....|pg||
nt|caitlin: and now for Detroit|pg||
nt|caitlin: OMG the clapping for Detroit was overwhelming|pg||
nt|fabsayc: probably cross ruff for 11 tricks|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mcarroll: Contravenes Burn's Law|pg||
nt|capercliff: I dont mind passing, dont want to encourage partner to bids lots|pg||
pc|s5|nt|gavin: jurek is a sick sick animal :)|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Club return causes problems|pg||
nt|fabsayc: indeed will still need to guess diamonds now|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has to hope that D!A is right|pg||
pc|sT|nt|harmon: GO BREWERS|pg||
nt|caitlin: Gowdy how come there are no results for Seniors?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: or queen|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d4|nt|fabsayc: 1c-1h-2d (West coast Polish convention showing balanced 18-19)|pg||
nt|starkist: thanks Roland/BBO/CBF|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|caitlin: sorry Hobart vs Jotcham|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|gavin: west can see without any entries to dummy that he might aswell lead clubs out of his hand|pg||
nt|glen: yes, otherwise known as no hope in heck|pg||
pc|dT|nt|rlebi: will Jim find the winnining return?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|capercliff: you cant always have 4-4 fits in the majors|pg||
nt|gavin: normally you would like to lead up towards the kq a couple times|pg||
nt|caitlin: which proves fruitful|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: he did|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2h rebid (my hand sucks) - ok then 2s not forcing- thanks partner|pg||
pc|d2|nt|gowdy: well n's 8 is suit pref for H  as opposed to netural  so it is gueesable  |pg||
pc|h5|pc|dK|nt|gavin: with the 9 showing in north|pg||
nt|gavin: west carefully protected his 3rd club trick by leading low from his hand|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now a safety play|pg||
nt|gavin: 2nd rather|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but will cost an imp or two|pg||
nt|starkist: pitt scores|pg||
nt|fabsayc: lost an imp not cashing the spade|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but had hanna ducked this would be very interesting|pg||
pc|h3|nt|gavin: 9 tricks secured with 1 spade 3 hearts 3 diamonds and 2 clubs|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he already has to assume heart ace right|pg||
pc|c4|nt|mittmouse: well i think 3h is the right bid if it just shows a lot of hearts and no cards|pg||
nt|fabsayc: as it should, with power you go thru 2NT|pg||
nt|starkist: i agree if it shows that|pg||
nt|starkist: because thats what he has|pg||
nt|gavin: yeah... though it would still typically have a card outside i thk|pg||
nt|gavin: 5 card support and a stiff and out seems like a bit much|pg||
nt|gavin: 145-107 if he makes this|pg||
nt|starkist: fellow commentators, starstudded... should put a team together and challenge the winners|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o60|st||md|2SJHA742DAJ832CA94,SA43HKJ93D654CKJT,SKQT8H6DQ9CQ76532,S97652HQT85DKT7C8|sv|n|nt|Vugraphu1: Discussion of what the EW auction was - Hamman says that DBL of 2@d was Takeout of clubs - Not clear about what 2@d was - I guess must have been just ART, since Hamman said DBL ...|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: just T/O of clubs|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: thanks to our operator Jan Martel for a great job! to the USBF and especially Jan Martel for sharing this event with us! and to my excellent fellow commentators David Greenwood, ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ireland, George Holland, Canada, Vladimir Ivanov, Russia, and Barnet Shenkin and Michael Rosenberg, USA!|pg||
mb|1N|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 12:45 pm Los Angeles, 3:45 pm New York, 21.45 Paris, 8:45 pm London, 5:45 am Tuesday Sydney|pg||
nt|daman: and thanks to you Hedy|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Yes, thanks Hedy|pg||
nt|scotty: That might well end it|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you all for joining and for your helpful comments. we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad: "typically 4th right? And Rightside up Count & Attitude?" "yes"|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
nt|daman: what happened to the support xx from Zia?|pg||
nt|hedyg: expecting 4@Hs in dummy normal not to lead the suit|pg||
nt|jtr: I dont think they do it with a minimum|pg||
nt|daman: ok   thx|pg||
nt|Vugraphu1: Ekeblad is just asking about the support RDBL - do you play it there? I think Hamman said yes|pg||
nt|hedyg: maybe he didnt want a @s lead :)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c8|nt|scotty: They don't play support redouble|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
mc|7|nt|daman: ciao everyone|pg||
nt|scotty: But I have a problem bidding 1S with 4-3-1-5 min.  What if partner bids 2@c?  That I won't do.  Even 2@d is a problem over 1@s, since my 2@h their almost always 4-2-2-5, and 3@h ...|pg||
nt|scotty: needed for extras 4-3-1-5|pg||
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qx|c60|st||md|2SJHA742DAJ832CA94,SA43HKJ93D654CKJT,SKQT8H6DQ9CQ76532,S97652HQT85DKT7C8|sv|n|nt|vugraphznx: skipping board 14, will come back to it|pg||
mb|1D!|an|could be canape|nt|fabsayc: thanks to our operator Karen, good work|pg||
nt|caitlin: I am sure Karen can......from Gavin to the Darren and his team|pg||
nt|vugraphznx: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: looked fine Karen|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and it looks like slam can be made EW in hearts|pg||
mb|1S!|an|3+!s, non-forcing|nt|glen: anybody for slam? everybody?|pg||
mb|d|nt|capercliff: he stole his rebid|pg||
nt|starkist: actionne|pg||
mb|r|an|support|nt|gowdy: no was spot on I think|pg||
mb|3C|nt|mcarroll: Inverted minor raise presumably|pg||
nt|fabsayc: one of the surer applictions of the rabbi rule here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but 6@D is still on a guess if no spade lead|pg||
nt|capercliff: wonder if 2@d was GF or not|pg||
nt|caitlin: Pittsburg 2 Detroit 0|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough for your main partner to be from a different country - much harder to make teams|pg||
nt|starkist: 3@h bit pusilanimous|pg||
nt|starkist: 2n|pg||
nt|bbramley: could try 2NT, get some info|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: and to all the impartial commentators, spectators, roland, bbo, and the CBF|pg||
nt|caitlin: is Hazel with them?|pg||
nt|gowdy: this may be a chance to tightenthings up|pg||
mb|p|nt|capercliff: 61d is cold|pg||
nt|capercliff: @d|pg||
nt|capercliff: and bid in the open room|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not the lead direct double just helped opponents on this board|pg||
nt|caitlin: two way stayman?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i cant spell that, so will use the british "wet" instead|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: note|pg||
nt|caitlin: I assume|pg||
pc|s7|nt|starkist: gavin not impartial|pg||
nt|caitlin: and hello from Gavin to his mom|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why not W trasfer |pg||
nt|fabsayc: well an enjoyable and fast set, thanks again to Karen, our tireless operator|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|rlebi: 6@c only slam that makes|pg||
pc|sA|nt|fabsayc: one more board after this, again thanks to Karen for her hard work all today as operator|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|h3|nt|caitlin: the Wolperts are a famous bridge playing family in Toronto:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now all we need is another 500 spectators for the final set|pg||
nt|rlebi: or @ds|pg||
nt|glen: btw we have a USA1 winner in spec, and congrads to that team in a very tough and long event|pg||
nt|glen: hopefully they will concede once they see how strong Canada1 is|pg||
nt|glen: hmm, they promise a battle :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we will field the enforcers with 10 foot hockey sticks|pg||
nt|glen: he might just put 6@C on the table now|pg||
pc|h6|nt|caitlin: 5-3s often better in NT|pg||
pc|h8|nt|raghavan: 4 H no chance let us see for 3NT|pg||
nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks and chances for a ninth|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but here the 5 never even mentioned|pg||
nt|caitlin: needs one minor suit trick|pg||
nt|caitlin: ????|pg||
nt|fabsayc: entries a problem|pg||
nt|mcbruce:  we're about 5 mins from COPC one round to go leaders|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: cunning play but should not work|pg||
pc|h2|nt|capercliff: huh?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: signing off, but this could be less safe than slam|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he can be missing two aces|pg||
nt|capercliff: 5@s was a relay to play in 5N|pg||
nt|fabsayc: so blackwood was not the right tool|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not sure what is however|pg||
nt|gowdy: needs a or k of d in N with  no C switch|pg||
nt|susieq: 5N transfers the blame to partner|pg||
nt|glen: no, its the your-fault 5NT (i.e. you pick it)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: one does not get 12 card fits that often|pg||
nt|capercliff: slam is 50/50 at best anyway|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and to gavin, caitlin, tony, george and cameos from cam and harmon |pg||
nt|fabsayc: so win and heart to 9 and diamond up|pg||
pc|c2|nt|capercliff: happens to be the right side of 50 this time|pg||
nt|fabsayc: better than 50-50|pg||
nt|capercliff: you dont have time to try both finesses Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: usually the defense will yield many clues to the best line|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hazel, the mom runs a great bridge club|pg||
nt|raghavan: North must be alert to play C and another C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: this is essentially the same|pg||
nt|fabsayc: actually this is better, though Jurek should realize hearts likely solid|pg||
nt|rlebi: he picked swell|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not a bid with a great track record lately, but worked here|pg||
nt|glen: on board 10, with the two offside black kings, EW made 6@S at the other table|pg||
nt|glen: sorry board 9|pg||
nt|glen: they bid 6@S for 13 imps|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they have to guard clubs also|pg||
nt|fabsayc: plus no spade lead, i would expect a lot of clues|pg||
nt|glen: and now in 6@S board 10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|fabsayc: tomorrow first session at 9:30 PDT, 12:30 in toronto, 2pm in newfoundland|pg||
nt|starkist: cameos and harmeos|pg||
nt|harmon: what time in Borneo???|pg||
nt|mcbruce: Special thanks from me to both of our operators today.  While they tolied I finished preduplicating the last of the 2,858 boards for the tournament.  :)|pg||
nt|gavin: yikes bruce i know that task|pg||
nt|rlebi: swing comes back as predicted|pg||
pc|h4|nt|caitlin: nice 6@C by Turner and Hughes|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in answer to why they cancelled the board|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: thoughts on opener rebidding 2@C rather than 3@D|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c6|nt|mcarroll: now 9 tricks|pg||
nt|gowdy: 8 |pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast|pg||
nt|raghavan: still Ck and C|pg||
nt|mcarroll: true|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and now is surely marked|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Has 9 but def can getb 5 first|pg||
nt|raghavan: Why H is not developped - means solid|pg||
pc|c8|nt|raghavan: so hope in C|pg||
nt|gowdy: works here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam on 9 was fair, on 10 horrible|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: cash the spade|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|c4|nt|fabsayc: if this session did not start on time, would be very noisy once the COPC ended|pg||
pc|cK|nt|raghavan: GOOOOOD|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: declarer will need to guess right at the end to get the 6 tricks he started with|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Folks|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|caitlin: Hi Martin:)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: welcome Ellen|pg||
pc|hK|nt|mcarroll: excellent defence - but still loses 3 imps|pg||
pc|d9|nt|mcarroll: 2|pg||
nt|gowdy: 2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cQ|mc|11|pg||