vg|European U26 Youth,U26 OPEN,I,1,20,POLAND,0,NORWAY,0| rs|4SS=,3SS+1,3DW=,3DE-1,1NN-1,2HS-2,4SN=,5HS-2,4DS-1,5DS-2,4HS+1,4HS+1,PASS,3HN=,3NW=,2SSx-3,3NE+1,4SE=,5CE+1,5CE=,6CE+1,6CE+1,6SSx-2,5SS-2,6SN=,4HN+2,2NE-1,2HE=,7DE=,6DW+1,4HS=,5DN=,6HW=,7HW-1,4NE+2,3NE+2,4HS=,4HS=,4SE=,4SE=| pn|ZATORSKI,E. BERG,WIANKOWSKI,LINDQVIST,Skjetne,Sikora,Simonsen,Nawrocki|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SKQT832H86DAQ4C97,SJ6HK53DJT9876C86,S94HAJ94D52CAQJ32,SA75HQT72DK3CKT54|sv|o|mb|1C!|an|polish|nt|vugraphztq: HI ALL|pg|| mb|d|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|vugraphztq: we have a big game here|pg|| nt|andy_h: Hi Everyone.|pg|| nt|andy_h: Welcome back to the Round 7 of the 22nd European Youth Team Championships in Romania.|pg|| nt|andy_h: Norway, the current leaders are on 119 VPs, with Poland in 12th place on 89VPs|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|andy_h: The running scores are not up and running yet, I see.|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s9|nt|jbgood: hi Andy and all|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|nt|andy_h: G'day Jon|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SKQT832H86DAQ4C97,SJ6HK53DJT9876C86,S94HAJ94D52CAQJ32,SA75HQT72DK3CKT54|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST984HAJ65DTCKJ43,S632H74DJ98532C65,SKJHKT982DKQCQ987,SAQ75HQ3DA764CAT2|sv|n|nt|andy_h: Would have been interesting hand Lindqvist not overruffed with the @SA|pg|| mb|1N|nt|andy_h: had*|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S!|an|one minor|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|relay|nt|jbgood: or if W returned a spade and not a heart after the club ruff|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|nt|andy_h: N/S here play polish club, and E/W play 2/1 almost GF|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 2 sp the route to 3@d for play|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|jbgood: a steal at both tables it seems|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| nt|andy_h: Yeap, but quite impossible for either N or S to get into the auction|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jbgood: not a grand larceny - only 9 tricks in @h NS (of course)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST984HAJ65DTCKJ43,S632H74DJ98532C65,SKJHKT982DKQCQ987,SAQ75HQ3DA764CAT2|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: in USA1 Final, Schwartz caught up a little bit in 3rd set, but Morse leads 139-68|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ BAL|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is final segment of today's USA2 matches -- the losers go home, the winners play 60 boards tomorrow. The winner of that match will play loser of the USA1 Final|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: the USA1 Final is 90 boards so 30 more to play tomorrow morning|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so we'll have have a chance to see USA1 on vugraph tomorrow|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: assuming they keep playing |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQJ83HKQT7D6CQT82,ST42H52DA73CAJ654,SK76HJ94DQ9542CK7,SA95HA863DKJT8C93|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|hJ|nt|vugraphztq: we need commentators in the closed room|pg|| nt|gracelin: Hi all|pg|| nt|andy_h: The (un)lucky diaimond position here grants the defence to 7 tricks first before declarer's.|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Patrick|pg|| nt|andy_h: Hi Patrick|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jbgood: should be a push|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQJ83HKQT7D6CQT82,ST42H52DA73CAJ654,SK76HJ94DQ9542CK7,SA95HA863DKJT8C93|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: http://usbf.org/index.php?option=com_entries&task=list&event=13 shows full team roster and links to partnership System Summary Forms|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: follow link for Larsen team will also get you their ACBL Convention Cards|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D=10-16 HCP, (43) @H & @S, 0/1@D, 4/5@C [Precision]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so 4414, 4405 or (43)15|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just what Sonty was hoping to hear|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: tough position for Ron Smith -- may suspect he's being robbed|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|ahollan1: welcome Kit Woolsey -- a member of USA1 Bermuda Bowl Team|pg|| nt|kit: amazing -- Smith also has a 2@D precision opener|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this competition is for teams that will play in the Senior Bowl in Sao Paulo|pg|| nt|ahollan1: USBF already held Trials for Women [Venice Cup] and Open [Bermuda Bowl]|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: This is not going to be a happy hand for declarer|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|robinswr: at least he'll know where the diamonds are|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: and we also have Steve Robinson -- another USA1 Bermuda Bowl Team member|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kit: Kasle might have played a more encouraging spade|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h5|nt|kit: now declarer can ruff out the king of clubs -- and Kasle must overruff and lead the queen of hearts through to get all their tricks|pg|| nt|robinswr: draw trumps and lead a q of heart|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: hi can cash at least one diamond and maybe figure out something from the discards|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|kit: Bates pitches another spade -- now it should be pretty obvious|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|kit: but it wasn't|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: EW using standard carding/discards|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|mc|6|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK954HAJ87DQ8CKT7,S72HQT2D932CAQJ52,SAQ63H643DAJT64C8,SJT8HK95DK75C9643|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d2|nt|andy_h: Pretty straight forward 4@S here. Club lead is fine, but the defence needs to attack hearts to have any chances|pg|| nt|jbgood: difficult to find the heart return ...|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|nt|andy_h: Not sure if it's that difficult. With polish club, hasn't North shown an unbalanced hand in this sequence? So it can be 4351 or 4252. With E/W leading 3rd/5th, I guess they don't ...|pg|| nt|andy_h: know if they're taking 1 or 2 club tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK954HAJ87DQ8CKT7,S72HQT2D932CAQJ52,SAQ63H643DAJT64C8,SJT8HK95DK75C9643|sv|b|nt|robinswr: its obvious when you're looking at all the hands|pg|| nt|kit: Smith could have pitched the king of spades at the end -- that would have made it clear|pg|| nt|ahollan1: looks like other match is playing different set of boards but .. http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ lets you open 1 window per vugraph room that you'd like to watch|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, queen of spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|kit: But I think Kasle should have figured it out anyway|pg|| nt|robinswr: when kasle led the jack of diamonds, and followed with the queen that shows hearts and therefore smith should have discarded his spades|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H limited by failure to open 1@C|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer's shape was known|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 2@D/3@D from Sontag would NOT be Game Force, but hard to bypass search for @S|pg|| nt|robinswr: trying to steal the 9-card fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|kit: N-S actually have a slam here, but that is impossible to get to -- and on a finesse anyway|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|robinswr: making six|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: @C4 ostensibly 4th best|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but in partner's suit frequently Honor third|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA2H96DAKQ97652C8,SQ6HQJ5DJTCAK7542,SJ87543HK732DCQT3,SKT9HAT84D843CJ96|sv|n|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|an|relay|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|jbgood: nevertheless - it is much easier to find the heart return when you (we) see all the cards|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|andy_h: Yes, certainly.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|andy_h: I have E/W cc but do not have N/S's. So i'm not sure what 2@C is. |pg|| nt|vugraphztq: interesting bidding|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: they alert everything|pg|| nt|sybarra: gm all |pg|| mb|4D!|nt|andy_h: Specs tell me it's both majors|pg|| nt|jbgood: must be some multi variation 2@c|pg|| nt|andy_h: Morning Shirley|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi Shirl|pg|| nt|andy_h: So it appears N/S have relayed past their last making contract of 3NT.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: this sequence will bring NS too high - even 3 NT doesnt make on best defense|pg|| nt|andy_h: Yeap, hearts are positioned wrong|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice stop |pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|sybarra: 3 @D might have even been easier |pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|andy_h: 3NT seems certainly better than a hopeful 6@S, which i presume South was looking for? Not knowing the definitions of the relay responses, wonder if South could look for 6@D too.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|s7|nt|jbgood: I mean when they first were at the 4 level... and apparently going for more:)|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|h2|nt|jbgood: E better be on the alert - or he is endplayed soon|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|sybarra: well done |pg|| nt|jbgood: he was on the alert|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: East escape|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|jbgood: Well, Lindqvist is a defending Open Teams European Champ |pg|| pc|h3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pc|d7|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA2H96DAKQ97652C8,SQ6HQJ5DJTCAK7542,SJ87543HK732DCQT3,SKT9HAT84D843CJ96|sv|n|nt|Vugraphu5: e asks how do you know hook is on... n replies i know how you bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: Kit - when playing Precision do you use 1@D-P-1@H-DBL;RDBL as 3@H Support?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-8|pg|| nt|kit: yes|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|robinswr: lead director|pg|| mb|p|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: last set Sonty held @SAJ98 @HAQx and bid 1@S - it confused us|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|kit: Finally the spades are bid|pg|| nt|robinswr: 2hearts a control bid?|pg|| nt|kit: But does Bates know Sontag has 6 of them?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: transfer? oh forcing noise|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: inquiry per sontag|pg|| nt|robinswr: natural would work better here|pg|| nt|kit: seems odd that the weak hand should be making the inquiry|pg|| nt|robinswr: would you open 1diamond with the north hand?|pg|| nt|kit: normally you would want the strong hand to be in charge|pg|| nt|kit: not playing Precision I wouldn't|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Bates limited his hand with 2@D == if 19+ then 1@C-1@D;1@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we can only guess how that impacts other auctions|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|nt|robinswr: i would open 1dia|pg|| nt|robinswr: natural system|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Steve - have you ever played Big Club system?|pg|| nt|robinswr: could easily make |pg|| nt|robinswr: yes|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kit: if he takes the club finesse, he has 3 clubs, 5 spades, 2 hearts|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: ruff @C and he'll get pitch later|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|nt|robinswr: 2 pitches|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST62HKQ8764DCAJ76,SQ873HTDKQT954CK4,SA4HA93DA8732CQ93,SKJ95HJ52DJ6CT852|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|jbgood: 4 was expensive for Nor when NS had a misunderstanding in the CR|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|sybarra: 3 @H the "big" hand I assume |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: as opposed to 4 @H |pg|| pc|dK|nt|jbgood: right Shirl|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST62HKQ8764DCAJ76,SQ873HTDKQT954CK4,SA4HA93DA8732CQ93,SKJ95HJ52DJ6CT852|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: another Big @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|robinswr: and will make it if it goes all pass|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Bates-Sontag version of Precision 1@D=0-8 and positive responses begin at 9 HCP|pg|| nt|kit: let's see if Kasle has the courage to bid 2@H at unfavorable|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: nope|pg|| nt|ahollan1: also 1N opening is 15-17|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kit: Sontag will probably just close his eyes and bid 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Both 3NT and 5@C make at least|pg|| nt|robinswr: 2clubs shows a good hand so 3clubs shows a very good hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unfortunate duplication in @S to go along with no @C support and @D offside -- but 3N still rolls|pg|| nt|kit: but somebody has to bid the notrump if they are to get there|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|kit: and now they are both scared to do so|pg|| nt|robinswr: if he had a strong 2 he could have bid 2hearts|pg|| nt|kit: might not 3@S be a real 5-card suit here?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: would Bates bid 3@S instead of 3@H with 5+?|pg|| nt|kit: this could end it|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|robinswr: if he had 5spades he would have bid it before|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: that's my thought also|pg|| nt|kit: well, they did seem to know what they were doing -- this is the best contract, as it makes if either the clubs come home or the ace of diamonds is on|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|gff: again bidding on no HCP PASS is best by Roger|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: Ace so soon??|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|robinswr: assuming the queen of clubs is more likely onsides than the ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|kit: I guess he decided that Kasle had to have ace of diamonds for the overcall. Otherwise, his play is not percentage|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what did Sontag know that we missed?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: sorry kit answered as my question was in the ether|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKQ4HQ6532DK3CT92,SAT953HTDAT84C654,S82HKJ87DQJ7CKQ87,SJ76HA94D9652CAJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKQ4HQ6532DK3CT92,SAT953HTDAT84C654,S82HKJ87DQJ7CKQ87,SJ76HA94D9652CAJ3|sv|b|nt|kit: with no bidding info, percentage play is to win spade in hand, cash AK of clubs, and later cross to take diamond finesse|pg|| nt|kit: He may be right -- but would not be a valid deduction if I were in the West seat, I assure you|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: they are rehashing various lines of play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|robinswr: random diamond|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=good 10-16, 2+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=6-10 but Sonty COULD have responded 1@S showing 3+|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but that is rare action|pg|| nt|kit: Not a happy lead from West hand -- problem is partner doesn't figure to have a major, since no overcall|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: but Gaylor strikes gold|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|kit: gold in that he didn't blow a trick -- but 3 heart tricks don't defeat 1NT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kit: Now declarer has to do well in spades|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kit: Had Kasle ducked the spade, there might have been a later misguess -- now there won't be.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAKJT8HT942DT7CKJ,SQ942H653DAKJ84C7,S75HA7D9532CT8652,S63HKQJ8DQ6CAQ943|sv|o|nt|vugraphztq: all pass|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: easy for operator:)|pg|| nt|sybarra: for U26!! even |pg|| nt|jbgood: interesting sequence - i thought that a passout was not possible in junior bridge|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|andy_h: Erik Berg and Lindqvist are continuing players for Norway U26. They competed last year in Beijing in the World Juniors U26 with Norway coming 3rd. Now their current team has picked ...|pg|| nt|andy_h: up a few players from its previous U21s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: even in the seniors' game a passout is a rare bird|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jbgood: needs a double duck - for a dinner|pg|| nt|jbgood: or rather - one is enough|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|sybarra: folks the website with results is not updating sorry |pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|jbgood: well done by W - he will play hearts for the contract|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphztq: .|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAKJT8HT942DT7CKJ,SQ942H653DAKJ84C7,S75HA7D9532CT8652,S63HKQJ8DQ6CAQ943|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: not much change in other USA2 match Lynch 127 Vernay 70|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that WAS short|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|kit: Routine 4@S here|pg|| nt|kit: well, maybe not -- Smith might like his hand opposite a heart splinter|pg|| mb|d|nt|robinswr: why didn't bates open 1heart|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|kit: I think the splinter is an overbid, unless it can conventionally be this light|pg|| nt|kit: you gotta draw the line somewhere on light opening bids -- Bates thought he was below that line with the Jx of spades|pg|| nt|robinswr: especially since there are no bids between 4hearts and 4spades|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|c9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|d8|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S9762HA74D43CKT72,SAQT3H932DAQ975C6,S54HKQT8D862CQ843,SKJ8HJ65DKJTCAJ95|sv|e|nt|sybarra: this one is: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/VGRama/minirama.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|mc|10|nt|sybarra: claim 10 and get out of there |pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S9762HA74D43CKT72,SAQT3H932DAQ975C6,S54HKQT8D862CQ843,SKJ8HJ65DKJTCAJ95|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Vugraphu5: crashed and back|pg|| nt|kit: Kasle will probably compete to 3@D|pg|| nt|robinswr: i guess this 2diamonds is easier to understand|pg|| nt|kit: but this 2@D is much less fun|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|kit: And now Bates will have to raise and that will be that. Heart fit never found.|pg|| nt|rodvenn: hi|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|robinswr: thats what preempts do to you|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: can north ever DBL 3@D when holding real @S support?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|robinswr: why would he|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not asking for this hand -- just curious|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQ874HATDQJT9C932,S6HKJ9743DAKCJ654,SAK52HQ865D7654C7,SJT93H2D832CAKQT8|sv|b|nt|vugraphztq: they claimed|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: very good and fast players|pg|| mb|1C|nt|sybarra: taking no chances that as declarer I do something silly |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|hearts|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|an|GF|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|andy_h: 1@D=4+@H (transfer responses)|pg|| nt|andy_h: 1@S=nat, but no 3+@H|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: modern Norwegian bidding : 1- transfer after 1 @c, 2- xy(z) where 2 @d is artificial game force|pg|| mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|sybarra: trump lead might have been the killer here|pg|| nt|andy_h: Yeap, which is what I suspect what happened in the CR on board 4, except with misunderstandings of the last 3 bids.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|jbgood: i doubt trump lead would matter much - heart suit is easily established|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|jbgood: an uptrick now|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|cA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|12|nt|jbgood: at the halfway mark here now|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: http://eurobridge.org/competitions/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=732&qroundno=7&qshowflag=1|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQ874HATDQJT9C932,S6HKJ9743DAKCJ654,SAK52HQ865D7654C7,SJT93H2D832CAKQT8|sv|b|nt|kit: what difference what E-W can make? He is in 3@S|pg|| nt|kit: and he knows E-W aren't bidding 5@C anyway, even if it is making|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry that was partial that was supposed to be private :(|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=NAT, FG, 9+ HCP, 5+@D [not 4+@H/@S]|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: probably stagger into 3NT here -- and it won't be so happy as the cards lie|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: quite a difference of evaluation on board 53 -- what Kasle thought was a splinter, Bramley thought was a limit raise, and game was missed.|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: n has 5+ hearts .. explained|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kit: I guess the 2NT call showed hearts, since Smith didn't lead a heart|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Ron Smith tends to be pretty sound with his opening bids, maybe that helped Kasle go aggressive|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they play a lot of asking bids / relays over positive response so 2N replaces|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|kit: This is an effective lead, as would have been a club|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h2|nt|kit: 8 of spades rather than 9 -- suit preference for clubs|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kit: nice to have a choice of two suits which both set up 2 tricks for the defense|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|cQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKT92HT852DJT86C4,SA8763HKQ93D5CQJT,SQJHJ764DK9743CK9,S54HADAQ2CA876532|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jbgood: heading for slam|pg|| nt|jbgood: or?|pg|| nt|andy_h: E couldn't bid 3@C over 2@H is because if they rebid their 2/1 suit, it is NF, hence the 2NT|pg|| nt|jbgood: I doubt Lindqvist will pass - but I have been wrong (many times) before|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|sybarra: with the uptrick |pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKT92HT852DJT86C4,SA8763HKQ93D5CQJT,SQJHJ764DK9743CK9,S54HADAQ2CA876532|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kit: this is a common treatment these days -- double would show 4 or more spades, and 1@S shows fewer than 4|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N must have been a transfer to @C|pg|| nt|kit: gets spades played from the opening bidder's side, and puts 1@H overcaller on lead|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: Sontage might take a piece of this one|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kit: and this double isn't takeout|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Kit does that mean North usually [keyword] rebids 1N with a @S stop|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|kit: North just makes his most natural bid -- the double is negative for the minors|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|kit: 500 here we come, and with nother swing just in we could have a new leader|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|gff: feam|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the other match, with 6 left to compare Lynch leads Vernay by 61|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Larsen is original 1 Seed, Lynch was 2|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAQT9643HAQ532DC8,SHKT76D8742CAQJT6,SJ52H94DAT65C9742,SK87HJ8DKQJ93CK53|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|andy_h: 1@C=2+@C, 1@S=no Major|pg|| mb|4S|mb|4N!|nt|jbgood: 4 nt now? for minors?|pg|| nt|sybarra: hopefully |pg|| nt|jbgood: then 5 @d E - and S on the lead...|pg|| nt|jbgood: or does N have objections?|pg|| mb|5S|nt|jbgood: he had..|pg|| mb|6D|nt|sybarra: insurance |pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: more insurance?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: red insurance is not my bag |pg|| pc|d4|nt|jbgood: need to fin a club lead to maximise|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|jbgood: should not be that difficult I think |pg|| nt|sybarra: and no entries to dummy for the finesse |pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|jbgood: 500 still ok for EW I think|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|nt|sybarra: been better for e/w if club lead found |pg|| pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAQT9643HAQ532DC8,SHKT76D8742CAQJT6,SJ52H94DAT65C9742,SK87HJ8DKQJ93CK53|sv|n|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|4S|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: 4 to play -- 7 to compare this is close puppy|pg|| nt|kit: Bates will double the transfer, for sure|pg|| mb|5S|nt|kit: Now, will Sontag bid 3@H to push them to 3@S|pg|| nt|kit: guess he didn't need to|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: one of those jacks pulling full weight -- but not enough|pg|| nt|kit: an overbid by E-W -- of course if the king of spades were in the South hand it would be another story|pg|| nt|ahollan1: will anyone be surprised if this board is pushed?|pg|| nt|kit: well, I wouldn't have bid game on Kasle's hand, I know that -- caught a super-lucky fit|pg|| nt|kit: To give you an idea, make Smith's king of diamonds the king of spades, same shape. Now Smith might like his hand even better, and game is basically down off the top|pg|| nt|ahollan1: both Roger Bates and Ron Smith know how to go into deep tanks -- who is it this time?|pg|| nt|kit: Bramley-Stansby are going for a number on board 55, so Kasle will maintain the lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: bates|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: Bates just giving other room time to catch up|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c6|nt|kit: Normal play here is the 10 to locate the queen -- but if partner happens to be underleading the ace, it isn't such a hot idea|pg|| nt|kit: And with Bates having doubled for the heart lead, Sontag just might have underled the ace|pg|| nt|kit: Now, however, Bates wishes he had played the 10 so he would know where the queen is.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: even if he doesn't play @H now -- there's still time for defense to collect 4th trick|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kit: he thought it might be necessary to set up a club trick which could be going on the long diamond|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SA93HT987DAK5CA83,ST6H54DJT8CKQJ962,SKJ542HAK632D43C5,SQ87HQJDQ9762CT74|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|jbgood: 6 @h may go down here|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: several specs pointing out that 7 spades makes |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: however, it a bit double dummy |pg|| nt|andy_h: pretty sick view though!|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|vugraphztq: http://eurobridge.org/competitions/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=732&qroundno=7&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: the running scores|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: http://eurobridge.org/competitions/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=734&qroundno=8&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|sybarra: welcome to Markku Makela |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|mmmakela: hi all!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|nt|vugraphztq: good lead|pg|| nt|mmmakela: -1 my bet|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: Wiankowski is thinking|pg|| nt|jbgood: would he lead a singleton with a potential trump trick?|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: who knows|pg|| nt|jbgood: good remark:)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: It's "classic" to lead J from the original holding|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: still thinking:)|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: so what?|pg|| nt|mmmakela: so takes the finesse|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: and he put ....|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: ...|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|nt|mmmakela: wrong again|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SA93HT987DAK5CA83,ST6H54DJT8CKQJ962,SKJ542HAK632D43C5,SQ87HQJDQ9762CT74|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kit: Double by Bates, 3@S by Smith, and that will end the auction is my prediction|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Smith evaluated his hand as a limit raise, which will get them to game -- and with the club hook on, it makes|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|kit: I don't understand 3@D -- West simply has a 4@S call|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: threading the needle :(|pg|| pc|d6|nt|gff: my favorite bid abain 3NT 4 trump snf domr defence 4 spades 5tr and no D|pg|| nt|kit: this is an awful evaluation IMO -- West is far better than a min opening bid|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: in the other match, 3 comparisons remain Lynch lead is 79 -- we have one team for the USA2 semi-final|pg|| nt|kit: if the game is bid at the other table, that could turn the match around|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST63HJ8DQ65CKQT97,S754HQ9632DJ8CAJ2,SJ982HKT75DAT72C5,SAKQHA4DK943C8643|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: lots of friends here |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|sybarra: and I have to leave |pg|| nt|odysseus69: declarer played correctly- qith qxx spades East would not have led singleton heart q - of course he shouldnt have led a heart and then 1 down on restricted choice|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|sybarra: cu all |pg|| nt|mmmakela: is W worth more than 2 H?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: a kibitzer points out that West missed a chance to double 3C on last|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|nt|mmmakela: thx for all priv messages but can only answer a few with my 2-finger keyboard technique|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: not a good idea to cash that spade - better was a diamond towards jack- however forced now to play diamond to king|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST63HJ8DQ65CKQT97,S754HQ9632DJ8CAJ2,SJ982HKT75DAT72C5,SAKQHA4DK943C8643|sv|o|nt|Vugraphu5: w said he was afraid of 2little clubs and diamonds in dummy|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|kit: likely 1NT by West all pass here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Stansby super-accept was 3@C -- Bramley bid 3@H, 3@S end|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H was retransfer|pg|| nt|kit: so that is 6 IMPs for Larsen, making them down 6 with the potential vul game swing coming up|pg|| nt|kit: can't imagine who has the big problem here|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: well, 2NT is one higher than 1NT -- assuming there is no mixup on what it means by a passed hand|pg|| nt|kit: Smith thinking is not a good sign|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wondering how to get back to 1N|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: uh oh|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in college we called those Reduction Bids|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kit: and they did reach 4@S on board 59, so Larsen will have 4 imp lead going into this deal|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: Ron thought it was hearts....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: buckle up folks -- this is going to be photo finish|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: some confusion|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h5|nt|kit: Even if 2NT is the proper theoretical call on the West hand, surely Kasle should have known there was some chance of an accident and safely bid 1NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on 58 1@S-DBL-4@S|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kit: Well maybe he has a chance with this lead|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|kit: in fact, I believe he will make -- wow|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: may have had to take spade ruff first -- but he didn't know North had both diamond honors|pg|| nt|Vugraphu5: realizing n has the diamonds|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQJ94H52D83CQ9852,SA8763HQJ7DJ7654C,ST52H843DQ9CKJ763,SKHAKT96DAKT2CAT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: nice slam here|pg|| nt|jbgood: or slams|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|d|mb|r|nt|jbgood: I would have expected E to rebid 2 NT - since 3 minor is for 5 cards usually - but wrong again:)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: y can make 7 with dias 2-2|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|jbgood: slam on even without the @c ace.|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: better for West to bid simple 4D - setting the suit before confusion|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now a wasted CA from W's point of view|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: running scores: http://eurobridge.org/competitions/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=732&qroundno=7&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|jbgood: W may think E has 5 @ds, and go for the grand|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: East obviously understood that 4C agreed diamonds |pg|| nt|jbgood: couldnt be anything else|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|mmmakela: no way to go down even if N drops Q 1st round|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: shouldnt be anything else but sometimes West may be a little stuck- say AQxxx Qx Qxx KQx|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQJ94H52D83CQ9852,SA8763HQJ7DJ7654C,ST52H843DQ9CKJ763,SKHAKT96DAKT2CAT4|sv|n|nt|kit: however, other table getting maybe too high on board 59, so could swing back|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kit: Bates will reopen with 2@C, and hard for Smith to not bid 2@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: and now the hammer?|pg|| mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|kit: missed opportunity it looks like|pg|| mb|4N|nt|kit: other table in 3NT on 59 -- might make|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5H!|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|ahollan1: Bramley in 3N on 59|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|kit: this match is definitely going to the wire|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|nt|kit: Smith seems headed for down 2, but who knows what will happen at other table|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S75HA87DT75CK8542,SQ832HQ43DJ6CA763,SAKT9HKT92DAQ832C,SJ64HJ65DK94CQJT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 2 NT rebid would be bid on that hand Victor|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|jbgood: I was surprised he didnt rebid 2 nt now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: the spade slam a few hands ago gave 13 for Poland|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg|| nt|mmmakela: S improvised a little but contract ok|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jbgood: a club now?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: now S is ok..|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|jbgood: crossing for ten|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|cK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|mmmakela: nice|pg|| nt|jbgood: underruffing the last tricks no fun for the defense|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S75HA87DT75CK8542,SQ832HQ43DJ6CA763,SAKT9HKT92DAQ832C,SJ64HJ65DK94CQJT9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|d7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|dQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQ762H52DJ874CT92,ST85HAKJ97DCKQ874,SJ94HT84DT62CAJ63,SAK3HQ63DAKQ953C5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|jbgood: now E is improvising |pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: will they reach 6 @H?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 2@d game force|pg|| nt|jbgood: so E has a lot to spare|pg|| nt|jbgood: he will go on|pg|| nt|odysseus69: East has undercooked his hand so slam is out from Wests position|pg|| nt|mmmakela: surely|pg|| nt|jbgood: after 2@d east could take it easy - gf established|pg|| nt|odysseus69: now East realises that he has more than he suggested so time to double cross|pg|| nt|mmmakela: fast arrival=min but E will carry on|pg|| nt|jbgood: my guess is BW and then 6 @h|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: Mr. Lindqvist is thinking|pg|| nt|jbgood: fortunately that is still allowed:)|pg|| mb|6D|nt|odysseus69: sorry I missed that 2D was game force - obvious now that I look - I was looking at East only|pg|| mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 2D sounded like a simple preference and this is an unusual treatment|pg|| nt|jbgood: suggesting an alternative contract - he cannot have a very long and solid @d suit in this sequence|pg|| nt|jbgood: ist is xyz Victor|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mmmakela: 6 dias was a good bid, now if W had @C A instead of KQ could consider 7 with good hearts|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jbgood: x: 2 @c demanding 2@d and then showing an invitational hand, y: 2@d artificial game force, Z: as here when NT has not been bid |pg|| nt|odysseus69: i am being educated - I now understand that 2C would have been a puppet to 2D and not the 4th suit which 2D effectively became|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQ762H52DJ874CT92,ST85HAKJ97DCKQ874,SJ94HT84DT62CAJ63,SAK3HQ63DAKQ953C5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|5D!|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|7H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|mc|12|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SK9HKT7642D965CT3,SAQJ85HA85DA3CQ82,ST742H93DJ84CA765,S63HQJDKQT72CKJ94|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: having bid and made a 52.5% grand it would be cruel if they bid ths to slam|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|mmmakela: must have an agreement w pd if this is blackwood or inv to 6 nt|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: nt over nt is quantitative in norway, markku|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h4|nt|mmmakela: same here but wouldn't risk it with casual partner|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SK9HKT7642D965CT3,SAQJ85HA85DA3CQ82,ST742H93DJ84CA765,S63HQJDKQT72CKJ94|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|d8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA87HAQ9D65CAKJ87,ST962HT85DA943CQ9,S543HK76432DQTC62,SKQJHJDKJ872CT543|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|an|.|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: miscue - undo|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: srry|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|mmmakela: oops|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: ok unoops|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphztq: its more dramatic like this:)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this should make easily|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mmmakela: if not taking the @C finesse(bad play)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: taking*|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|nt|odysseus69: right play is 1 trump or none before tackling clubs|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|odysseus69: wont cost but 2nd trump looks wrong -|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|mmmakela: yes, clubs after 1 trump better|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ok now but not the overticks|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|nt|mmmakela: NEXT|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA87HAQ9D65CAKJ87,ST962HT85DA943CQ9,S543HK76432DQTC62,SKQJHJDKJ872CT543|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SA3HK962DT752C532,ST8HQT874DQJ8CAJ4,S2HAJ5DAK643CT976,SKQJ97654H3D9CKQ8|sv|b|nt|jbgood: LAST|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: and the Last ONE|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4S|nt|mmmakela: ty all for watching, it's been bridge of quite high quality|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: http://eurobridge.org/competitions/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=732&qroundno=7&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 5d is 500|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: yes - nobody should be ashamed of their efforts |pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 1-3-5 lead|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jbgood: only thing I am not so happy with is that too many imps went to Poland, but they deserved them all!|pg|| nt|mmmakela: good switch, no help this time|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| mc|11|nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|mmmakela: bye|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx all and especially the helpful kibitzers who tried to keep me right|pg|| nt|odysseus69: +1???|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bye all|pg|| nt|vugraphztq: that's all 4 now|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SA3HK962DT752C532,ST8HQT874DQJ8CAJ4,S2HAJ5DAK643CT976,SKQJ97654H3D9CKQ8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|dT|pg|| mc|10|pg||