vg|Norway KM Teams 2008,Finale 2nd half,I,1,16,Team Mæsel,61,Team Jensen,5|
rs|3CW-1,2DS-2,4HN+1,4HN+1,7DE=,7NE=,6DE=,5DE+1,2NN-1,2HS=,4CW=,3HS=,3DW-1,2NE=,2DN+2,2DN=,3NN+1,3NN+2,3SS-1,3NN-2,2CSx-4,4SW-1,6CS+1,7NN=,3NE+2,3NE+1,1NS=,1NS=,1NS-2,1SW+1,4SN=,4SN=|
pn|Høiland,Stray,Aalberg,Jensen,F. Svindal,R. Mæsel,Baumann,H. Mæsel|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SQ7HKQTDAJT543C92,SKJ83H2DQ6CAT7654,ST54H87654DKCKQ83,SA962HAJ93D9872CJ|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: or pitches dummy's @C on long @D -- tough choices :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: closing in on Sound Opening values  [something I've never held - so never played Roth-Stone]|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: not an RS opener, Qx values are suspect|pg||
nt|ahollan1: North Neg DBL only way to get to 3-3 @S fit -- but South not cooperating|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|xenya: 3@C is creative|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: North giving partner a lot of room for 3rd seat opener -- otherwise 3@C DBL|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: DBL probably automatic at [yuk] matchpoints, but too much risk for very little reward at IMPs|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|xenya: and it looks makeable?|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|fabsayc: club 8 is a trick|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but how to get South in for defense 2nd @D|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|fabsayc: no where to put it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i guess declarer must help there|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|hK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|dJ|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SQ7HKQTDAJT543C92,SKJ83H2DQ6CAT7654,ST54H87654DKCKQ83,SA962HAJ93D9872CJ|sv|o|nt|jrssd: playing for Hx with South|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|aupillon: for those who can pack early tommorrow begins tha Brasov Festival. In The early 80's the police came and took all the ID cards from players. 2 weeks later the bridge was FORBID BY ...|pg||
nt|aupillon: LAW . This was the moment I quit my Romanian country. Sorry, I know it's personal, but I could not resist. It is true|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Mybe I am old-fashioned but I pass with West's cards|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East's, sorry|pg||
nt|jrssd: perhaps 2H, 2N, ?|pg||
nt|aupillon: I am too Roland. Old fashined :(|pg||
nt|jrssd: or just raise Spades with a Q bid|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|aupillon: Rosenkrantz. Fit, 11, etc|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I would bid 2@D for a different reason|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: to show hearts, then spades over 2@H|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Transfer advances|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Bob Heitzman|pg||
nt|bobh1: hi everyone|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|jrssd: thats a very slick sequence, you get to have your cake and eat it too|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|aupillon: Right. It is another method, very tough. Rubens advances that I recommend for competition players too|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|aupillon: only ( i'd have to say)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h6|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SAK83HQJ842DACKQ5,SQ94HAT75DQT93C86,SJ75HK963DK8754CT,ST62HDJ62CAJ97432|sv|n|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: i wonder if declarer might have had time to setup dummy's heart for @D discard - would need to ruff @H and give up playing South for doubleton @C honor|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: will South make a slam try now?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is just a question of handling trumps correctly in 4@H. Start with an honour from the hand that has two. Then you are ceratin of only losing one trick|pg||
nt|ahollan1: A@C & K@H makes 6@H |pg||
nt|fabsayc: optomistic evaluation|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: during auction - don't really think about 4-0 split :(|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But think about it when you play|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but club ace and ruff is real danger|pg||
nt|ahollan1: mild try - nice auction|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4-0 split is only a 10% risk, but no need to lose more than one trick when you don't have to, regardless of who has the four|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: A@C @C ruff is risk in 6 -- but they get there only if North holds @HAK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so simple will have one side loser if you just draw trumps|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So @HQ was correct technique|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and West can't play 2nd @S|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: at least -- not effectively :)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|cT|nt|fabsayc: totally unneccesary spade return|pg||
nt|Walddk2: an club play|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if @D instead of 9@S - then A@D, finesse @H and 10@C -- declarer always in control|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h9|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: note -- identical auction in other room|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SAK83HQJ842DACKQ5,SQ94HAT75DQT93C86,SJ75HK963DK8754CT,ST62HDJ62CAJ97432|sv|n|nt|jrssd: players love to bid Spades when they have them|pg||
nt|bobh1: i make it a rule to try not to pass with 14 hcp so I agree with the overcall|pg||
nt|aupillon: old fashioned I open 1 CLUB|pg||
nt|bobh1: however i know there are pitfalls|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Pass does not deny 14 hcp. It denies that you have something useful to add|pg||
mb|3C|nt|aupillon: Goren's amelioration. Uh, what a good time...|pg||
mb|d|nt|bobh1: i just find it is often difficult to recover when you pass 14-counts|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C!|an|cue|mb|p|nt|bobh1: especially here when you have 3 honors in your suit|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aupillon: If we arrive at 1000 spectators, Roland, do we have a bonus ? :)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jrssd: with the clubs and Hearts wrong, this has litttle chance|pg||
nt|bobh1: S should probably content himself with 2@c|pg||
nt|aupillon: If we arrive at 1000 spectators, do we get a bonus, Roland ?|pg||
nt|aupillon: 3NT is clear cut|pg||
nt|jrssd: 3C is not a normal Jump Shift|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, 50% extra|pg||
nt|aupillon: :)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|jrssd: declarer gets one wish, 3-3 spades|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So no access when we reach 999|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|nt|bobh1: truth is we don't know their methods . . . perhaps 3@c is intermediate as bigtrain suggests|pg||
nt|aupillon: good shift|pg||
pc|h3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|aupillon: it's a 5/5 from 14 to 17|pg||
nt|bobh1: not a terrible game red at imps|pg||
nt|jrssd: a spec says 3C shows 14-16 and 5-5, so his hand certainly qualifies|pg||
nt|jrssd: a 2C rebid is multi-purpose I thk|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jrssd: the Heart 8 lead should stop East from continuing Hearts|pg||
nt|aupillon: or, a 54 hand but 18/19 plus forcing to game|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|jrssd: East continues a passive defense|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|aupillon: test|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|aupillon: he has a big diamond problem|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|nt|jrssd: South is hoping for a favorable discard|pg||
nt|jrssd: Declarer I mean|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jrssd: a 3-3 Club split would have been good enough, but one wish was enought the bridge gods say|pg||
pc|hK|nt|bobh1: dont think so|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1S832HQ984DJ7CJT93,SAKJ65HAJ5DKQ4C52,S74HK7632DT8C8764,SQT9HTDA96532CAKQ|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: 15 tricks if diamonds with @D split|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 15 top tricks with diamonds breaking|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1st time i've ever beat Roland in a typing contest :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7@S is the best grand slam|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 7@S might get @D ruff, 7N might get 40 diamond break but has slim squeeze chances|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N is interesting rebid|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|nt|xenya: might stop in 6?|pg||
mb|7D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: west 3@H is interesting too -- i wonder what it takes to show good @D support|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: the auction in the other room doesn't look too scientific to me but it also got them to grand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room West bid 4@D over 2@D -- that worked, but I don't understand the bid with 5332 distribution|pg||
nt|ahollan1: more imps to the leaders|pg||
pc|s2|mc|13|nt|ahollan1: note -- in the discussion of best grand - Roland never mentioned 7@D|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1S832HQ984DJ7CJT93,SAKJ65HAJ5DKQ4C52,S74HK7632DT8C8764,SQT9HTDA96532CAKQ|sv|e|nt|jrssd: oh, it says "diamond" if that's what you mean|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: 4 hearts but no more|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bobh1: did he really make 3n on the previous one?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|aupillon: yes. Normal|pg||
mb|4D|nt|vugraphzfa: they played the last cards very fast and both pairs agreed on 9 tricks|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: i did not get a chance to see much|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|jrssd: perhaps the H9 scored?|pg||
nt|bobh1: i guess claiming 9 tricks was declarer's best line|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|an|0-3|mb|p|mb|5N|nt|jrssd: protecting the SQ!|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|7N|nt|jrssd: playing NT from the Qx side is almost always right - consider if partner has Kxx or Axx|pg||
nt|aupillon: if he mean it, he is really a good player this Zorlu. Who promises the ace of spades . Why not a slam in clubs or hearts. I don't get this approach|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
nt|aupillon: 1010 Roland|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg||
nt|jrssd: East didnt know about the Heart fit, has a minimum, and may play the hands better :)|pg||
mc|13|nt|bobh1: i understand the 3n call--neither side bid spades so pd probably has some help there|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2S842HA5DCAKQJT982,SQT65HJ43DAQ976C7,SK7HT9872D43C6543,SAJ93HKQ6DKJT852C|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: and a now 50% 6@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|xenya: 2@C everyone?|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: He has his bid|pg||
mb|4C|nt|xenya: :)|pg||
mb|4S|mb|5C|nt|fabsayc: may push them into slam this way|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room Svindal began with DBL -- not my choice|pg||
nt|xenya: a few spectators suggest 5@C -- i think that would be my bid too|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: or 3@D asking for stopper for 3N?|pg||
mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Mike Gold|pg||
nt|ahollan1: wow|pg||
nt|lestergold: hi all from England |pg||
nt|xenya: hello Mike|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They need the IMPs badly|pg||
nt|lestergold: well hard to guess that 7 cl is a profitable save|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lestergold: and that is the last trick for the defence|pg||
nt|ahollan1: declarer will think this is going down - not expecting 4@C bidder to hold K@S|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but no alternative line - must finesse @S|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|d2|pg||
mc|12|nt|lestergold: i dont agree with 2cl if he bids the 5cl he was dealt pard will take insurance and bid 7|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2S842HA5DCAKQJT982,SQT65HJ43DAQ976C7,SK7HT9872D43C6543,SAJ93HKQ6DKJT852C|sv|b|nt|jrssd: but we are operating in a vacuum here - there are human factors we don't know about|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: board 4 has a problem. it has  North as dealer. the other table played it like this so the director will let this table play it like this too|pg||
nt|aupillon: this is a straight 3NT. Get yourself a cup of coffee. If you are in Romania, get a "tzuica" It's time for this|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: so there were 3 passes|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: and then Gunel opened|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: :)|pg||
nt|jrssd: sometimes pard is tired or sick, or the partnership is not well established|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|aupillon: With 19 ? I think I don't know their system|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|aupillon: Something is not clear to me|pg||
nt|aupillon: 1NT ?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|aupillon: Catalin ( vugraph) tzuica too ?|pg||
mb|5C|nt|jrssd: I've been informed that this partnership has played less than 10 times|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: not yet :)|pg||
nt|aupillon: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jrssd: tks Hasan|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAQ53H932DKT2CA42,SKJ96HJ865D7CQT85,S84HKT74DA93CKJ97,ST72HAQDQJ8654C63|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: Mike - do you begin with DBL or some larger bid?|pg||
nt|lestergold: no point in laying in wait when ur hand is massive in offenced and pathetic indefence|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: i bid 5cl without pausing for breath|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that's the 1st double digit swing of the set|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|lestergold: practical high stake money players know what to do on thse big hands- bid quickly|pg||
nt|ahollan1: strange PASS by North -- south opened much worse 11 count on first hand of the set|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|lestergold: finally north shows his values|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lestergold: and south has nolthing to spare|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right - 2@C allowed maximum exchange of information --- over 5@C East must guess between 5@D and PASS|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D must be transfer|pg||
nt|ritong: we might miss some alerts|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and 2c also|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|lestergold: well only friendly suit for declarer is clubs hard to see where 8 tricks are coming from|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|lestergold: well one on  the lead|pg||
nt|fabsayc: you just saw it|pg||
nt|ahollan1: one spec thinks 1@D just denies 5+ major|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s7|pg||
nt|lestergold: clus 3 tricks dims 3 tricks one spade can declarer develop a heart without losing 6 tricks?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C may be XYZ convention --- so 2@D forced and 2N shows invite|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|d4|nt|lestergold: best not do any work for declarer|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, @C return looks best|pg||
nt|lestergold: this is probably rolling in|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so fast|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|s8|nt|lestergold: duck a round of hearts looks like a good play for declarfer|pg||
pc|sT|nt|lestergold: not this play|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the winning list of playing hearts was obscure|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
nt|lestergold: could be sudden death if spade is wrong especially if heart is right!|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h6|nt|xenya: down now -- just play your @DS (E)|pg||
nt|lestergold: duck a round of hearts he has the time see what happens|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|sJ|nt|ahollan1: Closed Room North also responded 1@D -- my [imaginary] kingdom for a convention card|pg||
nt|xenya: not clear what declarer was trying to achieve by the spade play|pg||
mc|7|nt|lestergold: well it wasnt easy but i dont think declarer chose a good line |pg||
nt|lestergold: hearts are more than 50% likely to produce a trick this is surely the point of the hand|pg||
nt|xenya: start of a comeback?|pg||
nt|lestergold: by the way hi again Vladimir|pg||
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qx|c5|st||md|3SAQ53H932DKT2CA42,SKJ96HJ865D7CQT85,S84HKT74DA93CKJ97,ST72HAQDQJ8654C63|sv|n|nt|aupillon: On 1@d    4:s in south ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|bobh1: it seems 4@s can be defeated|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an|heart|nt|bobh1: the defense needs to establish a @h trick|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|an|3 c|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|jrssd: as long as WEst  doesnt lead a diamond, this shd go down|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: I'd have bid 4 spades the first time|pg||
mb|2D|nt|jrssd: but the Club 6 looks good!|pg||
nt|aupillon: some bets, here ?|pg||
nt|jrssd: down 1|pg||
nt|aupillon: one leu ? ( romanian money )|pg||
nt|jrssd: West will get his ruff, at the expense of a natural trump trick|pg||
nt|aupillon: Bet on =|pg||
nt|aupillon: 1 Euro= 3,80 lei|pg||
nt|aupillon: 1 in each suit unless super defence|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|inv|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s9|nt|aupillon: small heart. ....|pg||
nt|bobh1: @s is ok also|pg||
nt|bobh1: just no @d|pg||
nt|aupillon: i think I lose 3,80 Lei :(|pg||
nt|jrssd: this is tough|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzfa: Gunel holding @d6 in hand|pg||
nt|jrssd: so far so good...|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|jrssd: wd!|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|aupillon: i lost my bet|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|jrssd: pls pay in Euros - no dollars!|pg||
nt|aupillon: normal things. You bid 3 you make 4, you bid 4 you make 3|pg||
nt|aupillon: ONLY in Romanians LEI :)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SAK32HAK875DT6C43,S94H4DKJ92CAKQJT8,SQ75HQJ92D843C976,SJT86HT63DAQ75C52|sv|e|nt|xenya: hi again Mike|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: E-W sold out too cheaply here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They have 10 tricks in either minor|pg||
mb|2C|nt|lestergold: 9 tricks available for ns in hedarts and ten available for e/w in a minorf|pg||
mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: another hand to prove that Flannery convention is not widely accepted [understatement of the year?]|pg||
nt|fabsayc: nice intermediate jump overcall|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: you play with fire, al|pg||
nt|lestergold: 3n by W showing his hand?|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now west is stuck for a bid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I pretend as though I did not see the F-word|pg||
nt|ritong: the F*** word sometimes gets roland nervous|pg||
nt|ahollan1: hehe -- Burn Baby Burn|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I have suspended commentators for less|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4 years mostly|pg||
nt|lestergold: depending on style it can hardly be to play should show just this kind of hand- any minor will do at the 4 level|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I think Martel-Stansby and Bobby Wolff are only remaining high level users|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a reese 3nt?|pg||
mb|4C|nt|lestergold: he has too much playimng potential to sell out to 3H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does Reese 3N mean -- primary @C and secondary @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lestergold: well 4cl works here|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|xenya: you can double as W, then bid 4@C over partner's 3@S -- would that show this hand? |pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4@C means good judgement|pg||
nt|fabsayc: it does, see "how to bid a bridge hand"|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7 more IMPs to Jensen|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: this is good -- 4@C plays at least as well even if there is @D fit|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: double part score swings are always fun to score up|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|lestergold: a nice little earner this hand for jensen|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: At rubber bridge 4@C would be clearcut because of the 150 honours. Just ask Mike|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@H by N actually kept NS from evaluating their double fit|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: I miss rubber bridge :(|pg||
mc|10|nt|lestergold: oh yes my oldest member is one Jacob Ferney- we call honours Ferneys because he always plays in his honour denomination|pg||
pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAK32HAK875DT6C43,S94H4DKJ92CAKQJT8,SQ75HQJ92D843C976,SJT86HT63DAQ75C52|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|aupillon: you bid 4 you make 6, you bid 6 you make 4|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|bobh1: seems like a normal 2@d at these colors; they must play that as something else|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|aupillon: 2 way stayman. Can have both|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jrssd: a peaceful 4S |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|aupillon: 4 spades now|pg||
pc|c5|nt|aupillon: uf. 6PM. Sun went to sleep. Cheers all. Noroc !|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|jrssd: now it's a matter of an overtrike, and the Dia lead stops that|pg||
nt|jrssd: overtrick|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|nt|aupillon: cool, zen|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SAK9H96DQJ2CQJT32,SJ754HT3DAK843CK8,SQT62HJ854DT96C64,S83HAKQ72D75CA975|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: hehe -- preference for partner or NT = no honors |pg||
mb|1C|nt|xenya: another chance for the trailing team?|pg||
nt|lestergold: feney pays his table money on honour scores i reckon|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|xenya: hardly i'm sorry to say|pg||
mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S makes it look as though 1@H was forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|lestergold: runs ot of steam now|pg||
nt|lestergold: one would hope|pg||
nt|xenya: but it does look right to bid to 3N here|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lestergold: what with that hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: first rubber bridge, now steam? |pg||
pc|c6|nt|lestergold: pass surely better|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: i am absolutely sure that i don't understand 3@D|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|lestergold: he has already bid his cards|pg||
nt|ahollan1: we used to call that the San Diego Confirmation -- in a non-forcing auction - bid again to confirm you had your 1st bid|pg||
nt|lestergold: well with dims breaking he gets away wit this contract|pg||
nt|fabsayc: duck a diamond immediately|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm with Martin on this|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|lestergold: lose 3sp and a dim|pg||
nt|ritong: trump policeman|pg||
nt|xenya: yes, you have to play a small @D now to keep a @D in dummy |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Duck a diamond must be best now|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|lestergold: not a difficult play|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: Well, 3rd place, not bad|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Mike close to 1st in our typo contest|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looking for a way to lose 2 trump when they split 33 :(|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|lestergold: wont matter if he saves a spade loser this way|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: cashing the @H accomplished .... what?|pg||
nt|lestergold: after all declarer will be reluctant to pin all hopes on a 3/3 break in trumps|pg||
nt|fabsayc: he has no other hope|pg||
nt|lestergold: poor play|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I don't think he can make it on a H return now|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: rebidding AKxxx you should know that|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|xenya: the @C might do too?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: yes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: J@H now?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think declarer found line to lose THREE trump!|pg||
nt|lestergold: well played himself off now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|lestergold: justiced for bidding a somewhat silly 3d|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry partner -- trump split 33|pg||
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qx|c7|st||md|1SAK9H96DQJ2CQJT32,SJ754HT3DAK843CK8,SQT62HJ854DT96C64,S83HAKQ72D75CA975|sv|b|nt|aupillon: ah non, not once more.... |pg||
nt|bobh1: another pretty simple one|pg||
nt|jrssd: this looks like another dull hand|pg||
nt|aupillon: Who shuffled these cards ?|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jrssd: tho Gunel will hope for a slam |pg||
mb|1H|nt|bobh1: this is a little different from the Russian goulash tournament i was watching the other day :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|aupillon: Give me 6/5 , 9 suiters. Doubles and all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: at mps or BAM, these hands would be more interesting|pg||
nt|jrssd: ah, a goulash fan :)|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|bobh1: a mp fan :)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h3|nt|bobh1: imps can be such a simple game|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|jrssd: I'm amused at the low point scores in goulash tournaments (-100, +300) - so many saves|pg||
nt|bobh1: you always know what your trick target is|pg||
nt|jrssd: someone pointed out that an occasional goulash is good training - makes you realized that none of your 3 aces are cashing!|pg||
nt|aupillon: Not gulash. This is hungarian, Try PAPRIKASH . I tell you how to do in a minute|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jrssd: hmmm, I recall "zaprushka" or something like that|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s9|nt|jrssd: it may be a Polish dish|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|aupillon: please, friends comment at my place one moment. Spectators take a pencil and a paper|pg||
pc|c9|nt|aupillon: ZAKUSKA, and it's russian|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2S8H9872DQ72CA8764,SQ952HJ63DKT9CK32,SAJ643HQDAJ86CQT9,SKT7HAKT54D543CJ5|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: and that put an end to the run of 25 straight IMPs|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: any votes for 2@H overcall?   how about if partner were NOT a passed hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Not me|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 2 nay votes|pg||
nt|xenya: borderline|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is an automatic trump lead in my book|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lestergold: nay|pg||
pc|h2|nt|lestergold: three nays|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: At both tables a top heart was led|pg||
nt|ahollan1: me neither -- just playing devil's advocate - way too many losers, not enough trump|pg||
nt|fabsayc: they don't lead trumps|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d7|nt|fabsayc: and the shift was too late|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: On an auction like this dummy nearly always has 1-3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|fabsayc: spade ruffing value anyway is certain|pg||
nt|ahollan1: curiosly - nobody mentions that it is impossible to get to 8-card @C fit -- even commentators ignore that suit :)|pg||
nt|fabsayc: and minimum likelihood your side aces will disappear|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Show me a system that gets you to 2@C|pg||
nt|fabsayc: acol?|pg||
nt|ritong: and if you find one, just burn the book|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Some can rebid 2@C to show a diamond side suit, but how can South know to pass that?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: for specs -- Roland is saying -- when 1N bidder prefers opener's 2nd suit -- it is usually best to lead trump - then look at the rest of your hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think only a peek finds a @C contract |pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
mc|10|nt|fabsayc: sheesh|pg||
nt|ahollan1: fyi - peek means  look at partner's hand|pg||
pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2S8H9872DQ72CA8764,SQ952HJ63DKT9CK32,SAJ643HQDAJ86CQT9,SKT7HAKT54D543CJ5|sv|o|nt|jrssd: ah, tks|pg||
nt|bobh1: Gunel garners all the matchpoints!|pg||
nt|aupillon: And BULGARIAN, as Alexandrow point it. Got your pencils ? Because 4 H ok.|pg||
nt|bobh1: another one we may need to chat through|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jrssd: hard to get overboard|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: but we did chat through a squeeze on the last hand|pg||
mb|1N|nt|jrssd: or at least I did|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d3|nt|aupillon: So : you shuffle the pack of cards. You give 4 cards at your left, and 333. You give now 3 at your left , 4 and 33. Then you give 3 3 4 and 3 . At the end you give 333 and 4 to ...|pg||
nt|aupillon: yourself. Not over.|pg||
nt|jrssd: EW is using standard Stayman, while NS is using Puppet Stayman|pg||
nt|bobh1: i prefer reg stayman|pg||
nt|jrssd: Puppet Stayman asks for FIVE card majors initially|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|bobh1: puppets are for children!|pg||
nt|jrssd: as one has to open 2N with the correct point count, there are no alternatives|pg||
nt|jrssd: like there are for a 1N opener|pg||
nt|bobh1: yes but missing a 5-3 major suit fit is often not a tragedy|pg||
nt|jrssd: so five card majors are more frequent for 2N opening bids|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|d6|nt|bobh1: in fact sometimes it gains you a lot of imps|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|aupillon: BEFORE THIS: you GAVE the cards normally and ask players to put them Spades, Hearts, Diamonds and Clubs. by order of value. You cut the deck and you have paprikash. Warning. At ...|pg||
nt|aupillon: this game you lose house, wife, car and dog if you play at 1 dollar a point|pg||
nt|jrssd: If you don't have a 5 card major, rebid 3N without a four card major, 3D with one|pg||
nt|jrssd: then partner bids the major he DOESN'T have, so the 2N opener can declare the 4-4 fit|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jrssd: that's Puppet Stayman, in a nutshell|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|aupillon: This 4 hearts can always make|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|bobh1: in the meantime, you lose smolen and some other sequences|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|d7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jrssd: sure, there are tradeoffs |pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|bobh1: I think too many tradeoffs . . . plus puppet stayman requires a lot more discussion than people realize|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jrssd: oh that was a break|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SAT83HQ8DAKT872CA,SQ652HJT762D65CT6,SJ9HK954DJ94CKJ83,SK74HA3DQ3CQ97542|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: roman club finds 2@C contract|pg||
nt|lestergold: brb|pg||
nt|fabsayc: 1D-1h-1s-1n-2c-P|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: wow - Martin, take a victory lap for reference to Roman|pg||
nt|ritong: canape systems were efficient when opponents stayed quiet|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ritong: not the case anymore|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: does anyone other than South like the initial DBL -- 1D seems automatic to me|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|nt|xenya: perhaps he thought he was too strong for a double|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
mc|10|nt|xenya: for 1@D -- sorry|pg||
pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SAT83HQ8DAKT872CA,SQ652HJT762D65CT6,SJ9HK954DJ94CKJ83,SK74HA3DQ3CQ97542|sv|e|nt|bobh1: you don't always have to open 2n when you have a 5-card major, so judgment comes into play more without puppet|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|bobh1: i hate overcalling 1n with hands like E's|pg||
nt|jrssd: I disagree - it's too hard to rebid if you don't open 2N openers with 2N|pg||
mb|p|nt|bobh1: nowhere to go when they smash you|pg||
mb|1N|nt|bobh1: and you have 17!|pg||
nt|bobh1: i would make a takeout double|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|jrssd: wow, why did North pull?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jrssd: either you have an opening bid or you don't|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|bobh1: I would bid 4@h with S's hand at imps|pg||
nt|aupillon: test|pg||
nt|bobh1: languishing in 3@h is too small a target|pg||
pc|c6|nt|jrssd: I thk 1N doubled was down 4, no?|pg||
nt|bobh1: even white . . . they still give bonuses for non-vul games|pg||
nt|aupillon: I don't recognize the Romanian players. On an overcall at 1NT double IS ALWAYS PENALTY|pg||
nt|bobh1: i agree John . . . I have no idea why N would pull|pg||
nt|bobh1: he has a nice hand . . . full values . . . a couple of T's|pg||
nt|aupillon: that what we know, that's what I taught them. Only why ?|pg||
nt|jrssd: yes, and partner could have clubs guarded (as he does)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jrssd: East will take his 3 top tricks, that's it. 1100|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|aupillon: a missed opportunity for Romania|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SAT753H72DAK983C2,SJ962HQDJT62CJ865,SQ4HAT963D75CAQT7,SK8HKJ854DQ4CK943|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: if NS playing Michael's Cue bid -- South used this auction to show medium hand|pg||
nt|ritong: a very imaginative 3@s bid  i like it|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for those who don't limit range of the cue bid -- what does North do after (1@H)-2@H|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|fabsayc: i like the 3@S bid but not souths pass|pg||
nt|ritong: well, he has dubious suits|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: oh i know, will be tough, still for me he has extras|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|ritong: on the other hand, he s not facing a cue, but 1 NT|pg||
nt|ritong: the whole auction makes sense to me|pg||
nt|lestergold: back but not for long dinner almost ready |pg||
nt|xenya: i would prefer to cue @Hs at my second turn as N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: south doesn't know that down 1 is a 3 IMP gain|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: I kept thinking 2N - hadn't thought about Vladimir's 2@H|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|c7|nt|ritong: wouldn t that show a big @d fit?|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm trying to see a road to -100, but now -200 seems only possibility|pg||
pc|c6|nt|xenya: it might -- if you play it like that|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: ummm -- back to -100|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ritong: well, yes|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: since hands are relatively defined|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this also happens to me when i pre-gloat about finances and weather|pg||
nt|xenya: right|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|hT|nt|lestergold: well really must go bye for now|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SAT753H72DAK983C2,SJ962HQDJT62CJ865,SQ4HAT963D75CAQT7,SK8HKJ854DQ4CK943|sv|b|nt|jrssd: that's an ugly result :)|pg||
nt|bobh1: two missed opportunities really|pg||
nt|aupillon: enfin, a nice hand|pg||
mb|1H|nt|aupillon: 2 diamonds, majors ?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|jrssd: here, there are round suit ruffs available to the defense|pg||
nt|jrssd: looks like 5D could make |pg||
mb|p|nt|bobh1: double game swing potential|pg||
nt|jrssd: yes, this is not a dull hand|pg||
mb|2N|nt|aupillon: this is a hand we waited for , weren't we ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: 3 clubs I like a lot :)|pg||
nt|bobh1: what is 3@c?|pg||
nt|bobh1: i would play it as natural and NF|pg||
nt|bobh1: clearly EW don't|pg||
nt|jrssd: North is showing Club values before he raises Hearts, in the hope that South will know what to do if EW bid a lot of Diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: i have not seen any alert|pg||
mb|3N|nt|jrssd: South won't know what to do, however.|pg||
nt|bobh1: N should bid 4@h . . . you are not going to be defending 3@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: slow.....|pg||
nt|aupillon: test|pg||
nt|bobh1: or perhaps 4@d|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|jrssd: perhaps the 3C bid confused East|pg||
nt|bobh1: perhaps it confused W|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|aupillon: This a great result|pg||
nt|jrssd: If East knew there was Axx of Clubs opposite and 6 Diamonds, he'd bid|pg||
nt|bobh1: but W does know all this|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|aupillon: on x pass pass I'd have said 4 or 5 diamons anyway|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|jrssd: a 3H bid would have cleared things up (3H by West)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|jrssd: bye Andrei, tks for your comments!|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|hT|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SQ532H765D53CQJ54,SAJT986HAD96CK872,S74HQJT4DKQT7CA93,SKHK9832DAJ842CT6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: seems hard to stay out of 4@S|pg||
mb|r|mb|2C|nt|ritong: does it?|pg||
mb|d|nt|ahollan1: does anyone DBL 2@C?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: yes! -- another pre-gloat gone bad |pg||
nt|ritong: an other semi automatic trump lead|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: Closed Room West - Passed 2@C, looks wrong to me|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d6|pc|hT|pg||
nt|ritong: if redouble means " i want to catch them", it certainly is|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 10@C nice card for defense|pg||
nt|xenya: well W's double was not strictly penalty -- just descriptive i think|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ritong: sure|pg||
nt|ritong: it describes " they are done"|pg||
nt|xenya: E was happy to pass of course|pg||
nt|ahollan1: great point Vladimir -- so other room Pass  was NON-descriptive|pg||
nt|ritong: things getting ugly|pg||
nt|xenya: indeed|pg||
nt|ritong: like four down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i think A@C saves a trick -- but that only means -3 instead of -4|pg||
nt|ritong: i m not sure|pg||
nt|fabsayc: still looks to be 4 down|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 11 or 13 imps coming|pg||
nt|ritong: yes|pg||
nt|xenya: @CA might be right, yes, but only because E has @C10|pg||
nt|fabsayc: does not help|pg||
nt|ritong: three trumps to be lost anyways|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ritong: one|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|c7|nt|ritong: two|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|sT|nt|xenya: awful|pg||
pc|cA|nt|ritong: now, @c ace really saves a trick|pg||
pc|h3|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|xenya: for S|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ritong: and three|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: looking at all 4 hands I didn't have time to figure out play after A@C vs 9@C -- worse for declarer at the table|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SQ532H765D53CQJ54,SAJT986HAD96CK872,S74HQJT4DKQT7CA93,SKHK9832DAJ842CT6|sv|o|nt|jrssd: a double game swing to Romania has pulled them into the lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: Thanks, friends , I have to go and i'd have rather stayed. But I have lessons . Merci, bye, ciao, va pup pe toti|pg||
nt|bobh1: ciao andre|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bobh1: i|pg||
mb|d|nt|aupillon: :)|pg||
mb|r|nt|aupillon: straight 4 hearts ?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jrssd: the NS Heart bidding should help EW|pg||
nt|jrssd: I was thinking 5C EW :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: yep !|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bobh1: another wierd call by W|pg||
nt|aupillon: vugraph, Catalin. Did he alert 3 D ?|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: yes, alerted|pg||
nt|jrssd: sometimes it pays to keep quiet (South)|pg||
nt|aupillon: I think the meaning was : if you stop hearts say 3NT ? But who knows ?|pg||
nt|jrssd: South has MINUS defense|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|aupillon: The reason is thus to say 4 hearts selling his hand in one bid|pg||
nt|jrssd: his DK is badly placed, and when pard bid Hearts he knew they are cashing at most one Heart|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|aupillon: 6 clubs making some days...|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bobh1: seems they have stumbled . . . er, maneuvered . . . into the right spot|pg||
nt|jrssd: I'm not saying that EW couldnt get to 5C by themselves, but South made it easier|pg||
mb|4S|nt|aupillon: not today, remark|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c3|nt|jrssd: this may induce Declarer to finesse the 9 on the next round, but no matter|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|aupillon: bye and thanks. Ask Mr. Roland WALD for the site where you can have the entire results. And if you wake early, go to Brasov. Tomorrow begins the Festival. ! |pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|sJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SJ96HAQDK8CAKQ653,ST7HT9654DJ43C874,SA543HKJ82DAQT9C9,SKQ82H73D7652CJT2|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: club ace and heart for spade pitch was only way|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|xenya: looks like another big swing for the trailing team?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Marius self corrects before our onslaught :)|pg||
nt|ritong: 2220 is huge|pg||
nt|vugraphzeq: hehe bit tired|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: oblivious to singleton club, may reach 7|pg||
nt|xenya: you certainly don't want to be in 7 here|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N?  unless forced by system, i vote for 2@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4@C might have forced cue bidding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: re: 2@H vs 2N -- many who play 2/1 play that 1@D-2@C;2M just shows 4 card suit without limiting strength, 2@D shows 5+@D, 2N guarantees balanced|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|fabsayc: al's suggestion is good|pg||
nt|ahollan1: a very unimpressive auction|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|ritong: although the final contract is reasonable|pg||
mc|13|nt|ahollan1: but 7N was way lucky|pg||
nt|fabsayc: we have a ball game|pg||
pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SJ96HAQDK8CAKQ653,ST7HT9654DJ43C874,SA543HKJ82DAQT9C9,SKQ82H73D7652CJT2|sv|n|nt|jrssd: and the match tightens back up|pg||
nt|jrssd: a GREAT result for EW in the closed room|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: NS didnt get the Club ruff|pg||
nt|bobh1: yes i love it when I save and happen to make my contract|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jrssd: yes!|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|jrssd: that's pressure|pg||
nt|bobh1: i think W has a clear 5@s bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: as Grant Baze says: "6-5, come alive"|pg||
nt|jrssd: West came alive|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|bobh1: now lets see if they manage to beat it|pg||
nt|jrssd: it seems so clear to lead the AC|pg||
nt|jrssd: North cant expect to cash many (if any!) Hearts|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jrssd: I don't know what the NS style is, but double would be the choice of very few experts|pg||
mb|4S|mb|d|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|jrssd: a push, what else?|pg||
nt|bobh1: not sure what's so attractive about @d's rather than @h's|pg||
nt|bobh1: partner played the club 6, which can hardly be his lowest|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jrssd: South's Club 6 was suit preference, but West made it very hard for North to read|pg||
nt|jrssd: harder, anyway|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SAJ86HQ874D7CQ875,ST3HAK93D983C6432,S9754HJT52D42CAJT,SKQ2H6DAKQJT65CK9|sv|b|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but only 2 boards left|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: and nothing here for trailing side|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm told NS not playing 2/1 -- in that case, I'm not sure what should happen|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but even if 2@C in dummy, 7N is still a huge reach|pg||
nt|ritong: @h Q|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ritong: declarer is always singleton or void in @hs with this auction|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 55/16 for the trailing team this set|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SAJ86HQ874D7CQ875,ST3HAK93D983C6432,S9754HJT52D42CAJT,SKQ2H6DAKQJT65CK9|sv|b|nt|jrssd: if South held the CTen 5S would go down|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|d8|nt|jrssd: as declarer, one should signal as though you were the defender. If NS are playing normal suit prefererence, you should "signal" with the 2|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bobh1: this has chances but they do not materialize|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jrssd: the 9 was the "wrong" card to play, but somehow it confused North|pg||
pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jrssd: perhaps that last hand is why Meckwell play upside down Suit Preference|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|c8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SKJ42HAQ65DK2CK73,SAT86HJ8D8754CAQJ,SQ3HK732DJ63CT642,S975HT94DAQT9C985|sv|o|nt|ritong: so the @h Q pins his possible big singleton, and @s ace is the entry to play a @h through again|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match now. Many thanks again to Marius Skree, our ourstanding operator at Kristiansand. Well done!|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: and to our excellent commentators: Valdimir, Al, Martin, Henri and Mike|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Vladimir|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: agree - kudos to Marius|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h6|nt|xenya: well anyway Team Jensen have put a up a real fight in this set, missing the goal by a narrow margin|pg||
pc|d8|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: thanks to BBO for letting the world see players we never would otherwise|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i dont like cashing the hearts, the communication suit|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and cooperation of the tournament organizers|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our appreciation to Kristiansand BK for bringing this match to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate. Snorre Aalborg (the player in the North seat) has been instrumental in ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: setting up a fine show|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Aalberg, sorry|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i also want to thank specs for interactions - i think that makes it fun for all of us|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|Walddk2: Next broadcast is in 11½ hours from Romania. Check your bookmarked vugraph schedule web page for local times|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and bye for now|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thanks Roland -- fellow commentators!!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: bye folks|pg||
nt|vugraphzeq: ty everybody goddbye|pg||
pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SKJ42HAQ65DK2CK73,SAT86HJ8D8754CAQJ,SQ3HK732DJ63CT642,S975HT94DAQT9C985|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s2|nt|mbv53: hi John!|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s3|nt|vugraphzfa: this is the last board of this segment|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: see you tomorrow at 10 AM CET for the last round of the Balkan Championship|pg||
nt|bobh1: thanks all it's been interesting if not exemplary bridge|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: thanks everybody|pg||
nt|jrssd: with potential losers in every suit, there's work to do here|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jrssd: this will help|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d4|nt|bobh1: Jx is almost never a good lead|pg||
nt|bobh1: N has a @c lead but that won't be good either|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|d8|nt|jrssd: wow|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jrssd: was reasonable to play North for the trump length tho, after the SJ lead|pg||
pc|h8|nt|vugraphzfa: thanks all, bye|pg||
nt|bobh1: thx all, good work catalin|pg||
nt|jrssd: tks all|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h6|mc|7|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SAK7HQ8D963CQ8632,S8543HAT6D74CA975,SJT6H7532DAQT5CKT,SQ92HKJ94DKJ82CJ4|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: our Vugraph Operator today is Marius|pg||
nt|fabsayc: a passsout?|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: in some systems both N & S would open 1N :)|pg||
nt|xenya: kidding?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: of course :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: but whoever opens likely to go minus|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with such a large lead - keep the pressure on, especially initial actions at low level|pg||
nt|xenya: you don't often come across passouts in Norway i guess|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: more endangered than polar bears|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Kristiansand in Norway|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Your commentators are Vladimir Ivanov, Al Hollander and Martin Johnson|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|sT|nt|xenya: when the hand is over, S might wish he had passed |pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: interesting decision for East at trick 1 -- common tactic to duck to prevent late entry to dummy -- maybe this time cover to cut down entries to Declarer's hand -- tough game|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but everything wrong for declarer so play at trick one is moot point|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
nt|xenya: to be fair, the contract looked perefectly reasonable at first|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: especially after spade suit resolved at trick 1|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very good chance same thing will happen at other table -- but maybe there is a swing in number of undertricks|pg||
pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAK7HQ8D963CQ8632,S8543HAT6D74CA975,SJT6H7532DAQT5CKT,SQ92HKJ94DKJ82CJ4|sv|n|nt|aupillon: Sa traiesti Catalin § Hi Catalin. Being of romanian origin I left some friends there ...:)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: hello :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jrssd: other than the 2 red aces, this is a great slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|aupillon: The sequence is interesting. To stop at 4 hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aupillon: 4 clubs ?|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: If 4@C is a suit|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Some play it as a splinter|pg||
pc|s2|nt|jrssd: does anyone know the standings ?|pg||
nt|aupillon: Sure. I think long suits are better to describe than shortness|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|nt|aupillon: It only begins , I think|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: website not updated after round 5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|Walddk2: So I can only give the standing after round 4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: http://www.locomotiva.ro/balcaniada_diagrama.htm   for results and standing after round 4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|aupillon: It will be interesting to see overall results , specs, but I do not know the site|pg||
nt|aupillon: Tks Roland|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d6|pc|h6|mc|8|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SKT95HQ987DJCAJ54,S42H32DAK7432CK72,SAQJ3HAJ5DQT96CQ9,S876HKT64D85CT863|sv|e|nt|xenya: but 2 seems the minimum|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: stayman auction to 4@S -- south doesn't know how good J@D is for NT|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ahollan1: before 1980s - South would have used 2@D cue for Stayman -- so there has been some progress in bidding theory|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: is that progress, not convinced :)|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so many Queens and 9s -- where to start|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|dA|pg||
mc|10|nt|xenya: loser on loser and claim|pg||
nt|ahollan1: north pitches losing club on dummy's @HQ|pg||
pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SKT95HQ987DJCAJ54,S42H32DAK7432CK72,SAQJ3HAJ5DQT96CQ9,S876HKT64D85CT863|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzfa: partial standings after round 5: Ro 1 95, Tur 91, Ro 2 85, Bul 83|pg||
nt|jrssd: East will have to pass, then bid Diamonds later|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|aupillon: no 2 @d . pass and see later :)|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|aupillon: now ?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Nafiz Zorlu was a Turkish international for decades. Strong player who retired from major championship bridge 3 or 4 years ago|pg||
nt|aupillon: yes|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jrssd: but declarer fetches a disappointing dummy|pg||
nt|jrssd: one entry to take the losing Spade finesse!|pg||
mb|p|pc|d8|nt|aupillon: ok. Curious. By my time romanian players were born with the double in their "berceau" ( forget this word in English, sorry)|pg||
nt|vugraphzfa: Ro 3 68, Ser 62, Cro 61, Slo 55|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg||
nt|aupillon: Thanks Cata.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h4|nt|jrssd: goot point by a spec, South should play the HQ on the 1st lead of the suit|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|aupillon: elementary, Watson :)|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|aupillon: c'mon|pg||
nt|jrssd: if South plays low, declarer can finesse the Ten, then later the Jack for 2 Heart tricks|pg||
nt|jrssd: rising with the Queen prevents that|pg||
nt|aupillon: nice play|pg||
nt|aupillon: if the queen|pg||
mc|10|pg||