vg|Bergen Grand Tournament,3rd session,P,3,38,Team 1,0,Team 2,0| rs|,5DW=,3NE+3,3NN+3,2SNx+1,3DE+1,3NN+2,4SNx-2,4SW+1,5DSx-1,5DW=,4SN=,1NE=,4SW+1,2NE=,2HW+1,3SS=,5SWx-1,3HW-1,5DEx-2,5CEx-1,1NE-2,4HE+1,3HS+2,4SN+1,2HE+1,1NW-1,3SW=,4SN+2,1NW-1,3NN+3,3NN+2,3DW-1,,3NS-2,,5DWx-3,,6NNx-1,,4SN-1,,5HE-2,,1SS-1,,4HE-1,,2SEx-2,,6CW=,,2HW-5,,4HW+1,,4HN=,,3CN-1,,1NE-1,,5DWx-3,,5CE+1,,5HNx-3,,3NN=,,6SN=,| pn|Grefstad,Marstrande,Reinartsen,Anderssen,South,West,North,East|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAT9HJ43DKT2CKJ85,SQ7H85DA86CAT9643,SJ852HT762DJ543C7,SK643HAKQ9DQ97CQ2|sv|b|nt|jbgood: Good morning and welcome to the 3rd session of Bergen Grand Tourney|pg|| nt|jbgood: Your commentators will be GeO, Markku, Martin G and myself|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hi all!|pg|| nt|thegarve: Morning Jon and all|pg|| nt|thegarve: what's the format?|pg|| nt|jbgood: and our operator is still Raymond - gm to you too:)|pg|| nt|vugraph814: god morning everyone|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 brds per round - matchpoint. 58 pairs - top on a board is plus 28|pg|| nt|geot: Hi frds:)|pg|| nt|thegarve: what sort of pairs format is it?|pg|| nt|jbgood: barometer|pg|| nt|mmmakela: starting with 3 NT EW most likely|pg|| nt|thegarve: How many baords are left?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 2 sessions of 18 brds each according to schedule|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|geot: Standard 3NT, difficult lead for South|pg|| pc|c5|nt|mmmakela: club lead worst this time|pg|| nt|thegarve: a "slays me" lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|geot: Everything but a spade lead is a favour, and club was for sure not lucky|pg|| nt|jbgood: Results are here: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h6|nt|geot: South will get more trouble|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cK|pg|| nt|thegarve: I suspect the auction and the lead will repeat itself at many tables|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|h4|pg|| mc|12|nt|thegarve: I see the current leaders are E/W and N/S are 22nd|pg|| nt|vugraph814: penelty to NS. round 5 will pass|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - we follow the leaders:) (but are one round behind)|pg|| nt|thegarve: If South had counted the points for 1NT he would have pounced with a@S - a sign of tiredness/despondency|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA5H9752DQ5CAK976,SQJTHAQ64DJ98CT52,SK86432HJ3DT64CJ8,S97HKT8DAK732CQ43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|thegarve: Good protection - almost mandatory, especially at pairs|pg|| nt|thegarve: he had better pull this as 2@s is making|pg|| nt|geot: 2@S should make|pg|| nt|mmmakela: clubs 3-3 and spades 3-2 makes if played rightly with any lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: E will pass|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|geot: Danger now for the leaders|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|geot: Trump shift the best, but then declarer can establish clubs, go to the spade ace and play a good club|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|thegarve: they were ahead by 134 - over 4 boards clear - so can afford a slip or three|pg|| nt|mmmakela: E has good reason to believe W has 4 spades thus the pass|pg|| nt|geot: Anyway reasonable double from West (after having passed 1NT) in MP? |pg|| nt|mmmakela: agree|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|geot: omg|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now no points EW|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|thegarve: NV people will protect on five-card suits, VUL six-card suits are de rigeur. However, the thought of +200 is often too tempting for us , NV he would pull 2SX|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now a few again|pg|| nt|geot: overtrick was available now, but declarer dont want to mess it up if clubs are 4-2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SA65HK53DKT9765C4,SQ42HA8764DA2C853,SKJ8HJT9DJ4CAKQ62,ST973HQ2DQ83CJT97|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: a standard 3 nt now|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|mmmakela: do they play str @C?|pg|| nt|jbgood: everything is nicely placed - coffee time|pg|| pc|c4|nt|thegarve: another friendly @C lead v 3NT|pg|| nt|mmmakela: cig br here|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|geot: Yes, standard contract....but I think the 3NT bid is doubtful. Too strong. |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|geot: Everything is nice placed for declarer. So with open card it is no reason to give away that club trick|pg|| nt|geot: Now the defence need to cash the heart ace|pg|| pc|s7|nt|geot: small heart will give declarer a test|pg|| nt|thegarve: will probably play a @S now|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h4|nt|geot: 11 tricks|pg|| pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|hJ|mc|11|nt|thegarve: ducking @c at trick 1 wuld have made life easier|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S962HAJT6DAT85CQ9,SAJ8753HK987D6CK3,STH532DK73CT87542,SKQ4HQ4DQJ942CAJ6|sv|b|nt|thegarve: ducking early or not at all and take winners|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3C|nt|jbgood: an overtrick question in 4 @s now|pg|| nt|geot: well, ducking clubs can be wrong if you get a heart switch and the Q is behind....before diamonds are even touched|pg|| mb|3D|nt|mmmakela: brave 3 @C in red|pg|| mb|4C|nt|geot: many specs ask for results....http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=Bergen2009|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve: can be, but at pairs it is very hard for defenders to know partner's major suit and you must take chances|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|thegarve: 4@C was a penalty try, but got away with it|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|geot: Dangerous for declarer....may think North has the club Q. So if they dont cash the diamond trick a club finesse is tempting|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKJ642HAQ7D73C854,SAQT85HK96DAJT92C,S93H8532DQ4CAJT97,S7HJT4DK865CKQ632|sv|o|nt|jbgood: 650 sh be ok - but not as good as 800 in 4@c doubled:)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|geot: Will West go on over 3@D from East?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|d|nt|geot: np:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|nt|mmmakela: every key honor right for EW|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|thegarve: was that the lead directing double knowing that you are on lead?|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|thegarve: very often dummy has the key singleton @S for the @D raise|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|geot: Best defence. But declarer must play the @H K and guess wrong in diamonds to go down|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|thegarve: no danger of taking a ruffing @C finnesse x-ruff time|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|geot: cross ruff line works fine|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|cT|pc|dK|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|11|nt|geot: Safe for declarer now. North should have discarded th @C ace on thelast spade ruff....to make any problems|pg|| nt|geot: Ok result for the leaders|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 3 NT might make 10 undeservedly|pg|| nt|thegarve: some will miss game|pg|| nt|jbgood: and a few will bid and make 6 @d?|pg|| nt|geot: very few slams I bet:) more partscores|pg|| nt|jbgood: results are here: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|thegarve: East would have to cue a @s control to reach 6@d - unlikely|pg|| nt|geot: still lacking @HA and trump queen|pg|| nt|thegarve: One British pair flying the flag I see|pg|| nt|jbgood: And for the A-heat, try http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009a|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK963HKJT82DKJCJ9,SJT75HA65DA532CQ5,S42H97DT987CAT874,SAQ8HQ43DQ64CK632|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|geot: Natural lead. Only we, seeing all the cards, can see that the @CJ would have been a hit|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: not often that your best lead is from jack doubleton in opener's first suit:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|thegarve: started well with a@s|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|geot: true|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg|| nt|thegarve: will have time to build and easy @c trick now|pg|| nt|vugraph814: sorry missed a line|pg|| nt|thegarve: doubling 1@C would have been my choice|pg|| nt|mmmakela: not mine|pg|| nt|thegarve: and win the race to 1NT|pg|| mc|7|nt|geot: I like bidding the 5cd suit with 4-5, so @H here|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKT975HADJ3CKQ642,S642HK8DAK7CJT973,SJHT96532DT642CA8,SAQ83HQJ74DQ985C5|sv|b|nt|geot: 1@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: me too|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mmmakela: off-shaped dbls with weak hands are the worst by my experience|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|thegarve: pass 4441 hands first in hand - defensive shape|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|nt|thegarve: Pass and N/S would end up in a yucky 61 @h fit|pg|| pc|h2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|mmmakela: now might plays dias right playing MPs|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|jbgood: that is a valid point - but I doubt many would manage a pass on the E lot|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dQ|nt|geot: Which you cant now when you choose between opening or not....you have three decent suits you may hit some support in yourself...|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|nt|thegarve: Been doing it for years and I bid on all sorts of hands players would not consider|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|nt|geot: Many of us have opened that hand for years|pg|| nt|thegarve: passing and you can double 2@h for penalties knowing of the misfit|pg|| nt|jbgood: results (for newcomers only): http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|mmmakela: We not allowed to peek Jon?|pg|| nt|geot: :)|pg|| nt|thegarve: like a wrapped present - I am having a peek|pg|| nt|jbgood: reluctantly you have my permission:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: on the 5 @d hand I am told that one pair bid 6 - and went down|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SAQ875H83DK74CAK7,SJTHKJ9764DJT86C2,SK963HQT5D953CQ86,S42HA2DAQ2CJT9543|sv|o|nt|jbgood: tu Terje|pg|| nt|thegarve: the lead has shrunk to 71, 2.5 tops ahead|pg|| nt|geot: two went down in 5@D, and it was 8 partscores|pg|| nt|mmmakela: if in 6 think shd always make, can fin in spades or hearts or both|pg|| nt|geot: Could have played for the ruffing finesse in clubs, which was not an option at the table we watched|pg|| nt|mmmakela: sry forgot that info|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|mmmakela: the Almighty Tor?|pg|| nt|geot: Then leaders up against a World Champion|pg|| mb|p|nt|thegarve: Tor = mountain :)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|thegarve: My DD radar says to lead k@h to fool declarer |pg|| nt|mmmakela: needs dias early enough to beat 4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: def needs to find the @d shift before the heart queen gives a discard|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|nt|geot: And they will do so|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jbgood: sure|pg|| nt|thegarve: declarer made lif easy, but they'll gain against pairs who overstretch to 4@S|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jbgood: west would have started with a heart honor if he held ace-king..|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAK9H52D9863CA764,S2HQ9764DAT5CKQT8,SJT764HAJ3DKJ42C5,SQ853HKT8DQ7CJ932|sv|n|nt|mmmakela: 99% but S took his only chance for 10|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|mmmakela: guess 3 @C denied extras(dbl wd show good hand)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|c9|nt|mmmakela: short break brb|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|mc|8|nt|jbgood: 2@s rates to make (with an overtrick?) so 3@h minus one sh be ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: for newcomers: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|jbgood: lead has shrunk to less than 40 now|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT76HQ9542DAKJCJ,S8HA6D76432CAKT54,SKJ9432HKJTDQC982,SA5H873DT985CQ763|sv|b|mb|2D|nt|geot: S did well to cash his @DA|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|jbgood: multi - and 4@d asks for suit I gather|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: the later|pg|| nt|thegarve: decent save|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade 9 asking for heart|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|nt|thegarve: the lead is down to 23 now|pg|| nt|geot: ? he lost three diamonds and one heart? 2 down|pg|| nt|jbgood: rather "safe" 4 NT - prd likely to have some minor support since S is marked with support in both majors|pg|| nt|mmmakela: rehi|pg|| nt|jbgood: re Markku |pg|| nt|jbgood: Raymond - it was 2 down?|pg|| nt|geot: Dont think Christer and Boa will overtake the lead after this round, but they or not far behind leaders now. And lots of rounds left.|pg|| nt|jbgood: Results from the A-heat: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009a|pg|| nt|jbgood: just 23 points between the leaders and the runners-up before the last round|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SA6H742DAQT87C864,SKQ984HQ98D9652CK,SJT732HK3D43CJ972,S5HAJT65DKJCAQT53|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|jbgood: a summit|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 1st vs 2nd|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|jbgood: Boa is the designer of a very fine transfer system after a normal 1 @c opening|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|geot: Norwegian champ pairs 2008, Boa, South now, with very strong pd. "Stoffers".|pg|| nt|thegarve: Are the methods constricted?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| mc|11|nt|jbgood: result page: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S86HK86DAJT943C84,S2H92DQ865CKQT952,SAKJ9743HA543D7CA,SQT5HQJT7DK2CJ763|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|geot: Guess this will end in 4@S|pg|| nt|jbgood: will score well to take 11 in spades|pg|| nt|geot: East did not bid 2@D?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|geot: South did|pg|| nt|jbgood: np - we all see that|pg|| nt|vugraph814: it was S sorry |pg|| nt|geot: np|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|geot: It can easily be only ten tricks here. |pg|| nt|thegarve: hmm not the best route|pg|| nt|geot: no 11 I mean|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 11 possible but needs good vision|pg|| nt|jbgood: Raymond is making his debut as an operator this weekend - it is hard work and you are doing fine Raymond:)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|geot: need to duck a heart at once to win 11|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|geot: trick 1|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|thegarve: or play three rounds of @H|pg|| nt|vugraph814: ty jon|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|hJ|nt|jbgood: so right Geo - and you gain a ruff when the long spades are with the long hearts|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|jbgood: of course 3 rounds of hearts also works when west's singleton is the 2|pg|| nt|jbgood: or the 5|pg|| nt|thegarve: danger of a @H ruff to duck at trick 1|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|nt|geot: Now West has ditched one heart, so 11 is safe|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| mc|11|nt|mmmakela: E did but why on earth?|pg|| nt|geot: or maybe I did not follow, did Est play heart also when he was in...maybe.. anyway good score again for leaders|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ754HJ53DA732CK2,SKJ96HKTDKT54CA73,ST83HQ87DQJCQJ986,SA2HA9642D986CT54|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: rare to see spade suit being ignored on the W hand|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jbgood: lead back to 70 after round 39|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|geot: When S plays a little diamond W must take the king, or ells he is down|pg|| pc|d3|nt|geot: will make at least 8 tricks if he plays king of diamond.|pg|| pc|d5|nt|geot: s|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c9|nt|geot: Another very good board for the leaders|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h6|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SKQJ8742HJT8DK75C,S63HK765D64CQT875,SA5HAQ4DQJT9CK963,ST9H932DA832CAJ42|sv|o|nt|mmmakela: 12 in spades|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|jbgood: 4 clubs - 4 hearts?|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: Slightly under 50pct for 6@S|pg|| nt|jbgood: any slam that makes is a good slam (old jungle proverb)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|geot: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: a hesitation problem for S now?|pg|| nt|thegarve: over 4@C, you are generally obliged to cue bid |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: agreed - a free call so to speak|pg|| nt|mmmakela: think N worth 4 H despite bad @C K value|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|mmmakela: state of match call I presume|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|jbgood: Newcomers need som service, and results are here: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|12|nt|jbgood: *some|pg|| nt|jbgood: a brief break until 1230 - that is 15 mins|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S52HQT3DKJ953CAT4,SAQJ743HJ52DC7632,SKT98HAK964DQ7CKQ,S6H87DAT8642CJ985|sv|n|nt|mmmakela: some defensive ruffs ecpected in 4 hearts|pg|| nt|mmmakela: if they allowed to play there|pg|| nt|thegarve: may end up in 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: how can you afford so many s's Raymond?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|thegarve: he's got a stutter|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 3 NT big winner here true|pg|| nt|jbgood: brothers EW - both previous internationals for Norway|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|thegarve: much prefer a gentle 1@s opening|pg|| nt|geot: You should now, Jon:) almost winning Bermuda Bowl with Arild Rasmussen:)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|geot: know|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg|| nt|thegarve: making 12|pg|| nt|jbgood: for a nice score|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|geot: Lead is increasing. 110 points after previous round|pg|| nt|mmmakela: can claim|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAK32H86DQT843C97,S8H72DKJ7652CKQ83,SQ74HQT94D9CAT542,SJT965HAKJ53DACJ6|sv|e|nt|jbgood: Raymond - 3 down?|pg|| nt|vugraph814: -2|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk6: Well, maybe West exited with a heart|pg|| nt|mmmakela: bet he played @D Q 1st and took @H fin|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Only way to escape for down 2|pg|| nt|vugraph814: 180 turn at the table|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|thegarve: the leaders have recovered to be back to four tops ahead again|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|d6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Would have been better, and natural I think, to set up clubs first|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h5|nt|Walddk6: @DK was premature|pg|| nt|jbgood: best defense would have been a @d at trick 2 I think|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|dJ|mc|8|nt|Walddk6: Good morning to David Greenwood|pg|| nt|jtr: Good morning people|pg|| nt|Walddk6: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|jtr: I see Norway has some invaders from across the sea|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Paula and Martin you mean|pg|| nt|jtr: Yes|pg|| nt|jtr: And some from across many oceans|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAK74HAQ4DQT74CK2,SQT2H3DKJ92CQJT76,SJ93HJ652DA865C85,S865HKT987D3CA943|sv|b|nt|jbgood: bye Geo|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk6: In 15 mins we will be joined by David Greenwood, David Bird and Mike Gold|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: well - no break yet it seems|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: we are somewhat behind schedule, so there may be no break at all|pg|| nt|mmmakela: oops|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jbgood: Results: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Where did Anderssen find extras for a raise I wonder|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hætta - Thomassen are in 10th position after 40 rounds|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJ843HKT5D53CQJ6,ST7HQ4DAJ72CKT854,SKQ52HA93D98CA972,S96HJ8762DKQT64C3|sv|n|nt|jtr: There will be a few interesting results on that board We must look later|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2N|mb|3S|nt|jtr: Tough now|pg|| nt|jtr: Bit the bullet|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|jtr: 4@s would make of course|pg|| nt|jtr: @c pitch for the losing @h|pg|| nt|jtr: Despite the @ss, North's hand has nothing going for it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: His pass should have shown interest anyway|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d4|nt|jbgood: gap between the leaders and the runners-up getting close to 200 - may be very difficult to overtake Anderssen - Marstrander now|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|jtr: Spec points out, only 12 tricks for E/W on board 22|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jtr: No losers but one winner short|pg|| nt|jtr: 7@c however.....|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Hedy Grey|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| nt|hedyg: good day from sunny Geneva|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jbgood: hi Hedy|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk6: and good morning to BroLucius = aka Fuglen|pg|| mc|8|nt|jbgood: I forgot to mention that it is a beautiful sunny winter weather in Bergen too:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Bro:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi David|pg|| nt|jtr: Welcome DB9|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi to the kibitzers! And to my fellow commentators. The hands were great yesterday and I am looking forward to more of the same.|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW have a big lead, close to 200 points|pg|| nt|hedyg: you have missed the best ones|pg|| nt|jbgood: Results: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|hedyg: the earlybird catches...|pg|| nt|jtr: That hand wont hurt their lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: no it wont, 4@s was cold|pg|| nt|jtr: I am surprised you are not off somewhere exotic David|pg|| nt|hedyg: again?|pg|| nt|brolucius: I just looked at the 6NT doubled one, where 6@D would make but also 6@S the other way. Yes, pity I missed that, but I am NOT late (a claim that I am sometimes not entitled to ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: make).|pg|| nt|brolucius: We are in fact going somewhere soon, but I should not publicise it in case the taxman says 'How can he afford all these holidays when he only declares £2,000 income a year?'|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes how can you?|pg|| nt|jtr: Try Scarborough maybe? Nice at this time of year|pg|| nt|brolucius: My wife takes in washing.|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Your salary as a BBO commentator you don't declare|pg|| nt|jtr: I pay him in cash for the books i buy|pg|| nt|brolucius: No, but I claim expenses for it.|pg|| nt|jtr: That gives him 2 holidays a year|pg|| nt|hedyg: 6@d was -2 actually on a @H lead......|pg|| nt|jbgood: I guess there is a 5 mins cigarette break|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, I see, heart ruffs.|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 3?|pg|| nt|Walddk6: I don't like the quality of the paper in David's books. It's not suited for the toilet|pg|| nt|hedyg: you buy books David?|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S73HKQJT9863DA82C,SQJT6HDT953CQJ743,SK2HA5DKQJ764CK85,SA9854H742DCAT962|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|jtr: North must be a little shell shocked here|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hi David|pg|| nt|jtr: Hey Jon:)|pg|| mb|6N|nt|jtr: 4NT?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: might get doubled|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Anderssen has a nasty plan|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jtr: 7NT doubled N/S is par double dummy|pg|| mc|11|nt|Walddk6: Excellent save against 7@S|pg|| nt|jbgood: 6 @s is making on the E hand:)|pg|| nt|Walddk6: 7|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1ST93HAJ73DQ732CQT,S6HKT54DAK984C753,SAKQJ8HQ96DJ65CA2,S7542H82DTCKJ9864|sv|b|nt|brolucius: I would not have doubled on the South cards either. Normally it is OK to push the opponents to the five-level and expect a fair score if they go down.|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: you can double and still push|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|jtr: 3@s?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jtr: Ok 2nd time:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, 3@S accepts the try and shows a fifth spade.|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Succesful operation but.....|pg|| nt|jbgood: most Es would open 1 @h - and then s would often double - and then who knows what will happen|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jbgood: *would|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|jtr: In practice, 3NT would make|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|jtr: After a long needless sweat on the @c lead|pg|| nt|brolucius: High spot card (@D9) to suggest a heart value.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jbgood: good defense by E not to lead a heart |pg|| nt|brolucius: The @DQ is good for a club discard, so one down.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|nt|jbgood: oh - sry|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|jtr: Yes, and a @h switch would give a discard in that suit if the 4th @d is played|pg|| mc|9|nt|brolucius: Difficult for N-S to judge that their club holdings made 3NT a better contract.|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boa (constrictor) comfortably in 2nd place|pg|| nt|hedyg: 165 point lead|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAJ76HT2DA92CQJ72,ST53HJ9876DQJCT95,SQ982HDKT87643C86,SK4HAKQ543D5CAK43|sv|o|nt|jtr: Yes, our guests are always complaining about it|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: jtr has ordered 6 copies of my next title, published in March 2009, which has perforated pages.|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Yes i buy one every 5 years|pg|| nt|hedyg: lastest standings: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jtr: Will North get the @ds in?|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|hedyg: 3 loser hand and W does not cover any of them|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Get a new partner|pg|| nt|jtr: 11 tricks in @ds if you guess the @s|pg|| nt|brolucius: West may think he is good for a riase to 4@H, but he does not hold anything much of value.|pg|| nt|hedyg: S would love to be able to make a t/o double now|pg|| mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|jbgood: whereas 5 @s makes|pg|| mb|5D|nt|hedyg: practically impossible to bring @ss into the picture|pg|| nt|jtr: No @s guess required actually|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: East's pass is forcing, of course.|pg|| nt|hedyg: good sac is 5@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: and still no sight of @ss|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: South could possibly have inferred partner had @ss since he did not pre-empt initially|pg|| nt|brolucius: It was almost impossible to find the spade fit. So far, if it ends here, it has been well bid all round. Yes, South has passed. |pg|| pc|hT|nt|jbgood: and it wont come now - but pass is careful - too careful?|pg|| nt|hedyg: would double over 3@H really be penalty?|pg|| nt|jtr: Nope|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Surely not since it's forcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: well then maybe he should have bid it|pg|| nt|jtr: Double of a forcing bid should not be penalties|pg|| nt|jbgood: Andersen might have bid 4@s over 4 @h - but very tough|pg|| nt|jtr: I dont see it loses anything|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, Jon, that was the only possibility. Well spotted.|pg|| nt|hedyg: why should he when his partner didn't double 3@H?|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Perhaps it shows a 5th spade|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jtr: True Roland|pg|| nt|hedyg: and he @ss really are not all that great|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: his*|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: if they dont have some agreement to show a 5-5+ 2-suiter artificially|pg|| nt|jtr: Low @c?|pg|| nt|jtr: Not that it helps|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jtr: Hoping for QJx in South|pg|| nt|hedyg: he can play a 4th @c|pg|| pc|h8|nt|hedyg: so no endplay|pg|| mc|9|nt|hedyg: that was cheap|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ9742HK53DAQ73CJ,S653HATDK9865CAK8,SKJH9874DT42C9643,SAT8HQJ62DJCQT752|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1NT?|pg|| nt|jbgood: Newcomers may find results here: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|brolucius: East is obviously considering 1NT. His next step... is to bid it.|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boa is Baard Olav Aasan:)|pg|| mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|jtr: 6NT doubled earlier was just below average for N/S|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|hedyg: easy @c partial in EW|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Most unusual, particularly nowadays, to see a one-level suit contract.|pg|| nt|jtr: NTs?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c8|nt|jtr: 9 tricks possible if you guess|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|jtr: And you should|pg|| nt|hedyg: guess to take 1st @s?|pg|| nt|jtr: Yes|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|jtr: Only chance if you are in 3NT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h3|pc|d8|nt|brolucius: That would make it a good play hand. |pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|jtr: GIB says only 7 tricks apparently|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|nt|brolucius: I will write it up somewhere and pretend that I noted the winning play.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Oh, in that I case I won't.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jtr: Better consult GIB first|pg|| pc|d2|nt|brolucius: I am a DF man, myself.|pg|| nt|hedyg: so now we know you use GIB|pg|| nt|jtr: ah i think he is talking about @ss|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jtr: No a spec told me|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jtr: But he meant in @ss it seems|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 down for a good score|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|brolucius: After you and Hedy had agreed on the matter, I thought that further checking with DF would be a waste of time.|pg|| mc|6|nt|jtr: Exactly so David|pg|| nt|hedyg: lazy|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S9HKT62DA62CKQJ76,SAJT7HJ9DQ874C542,SQ6543H3D53CAT983,SK82HAQ8754DKJT9C|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Three hearts, five clubs and a spade, it seems (in 3NT).|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 2@hs and 1@D|pg|| nt|brolucius: East should have protected with 1NT on the previous hand. His hand, when he had already passed, was very suitable.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|jtr: I dont think you can make 3@hs|pg|| mb|4C|nt|jbgood: common in Nor to play strong NT even in the balancing pos - so 2 @c may have been the alternative (or and ugly double)|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|jtr: Hate 4@d|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: West came to the rescue|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jtr: However, the play will be awkward|pg|| nt|brolucius: East was a passed hand on the last deal, so 1NT would be about 10-11, surely.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|jtr: Maybe they pass with a strong NT sometimes:)|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jbgood: right David|pg|| pc|c8|nt|jtr: Often safer vulnerable|pg|| nt|hedyg: after J@H was a good time to switch to @d|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|hedyg: Q@S now likely in N|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jbgood: E getting full count now - so 4 @h will make|pg|| nt|jtr: Likely????|pg|| nt|brolucius: Declarer plays side suit winners, including a right guess in spades, and loses just two trump tricks.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: no guess when Sis marked with a singleton spade|pg|| nt|brolucius: North declined to make a fit-jump of 3@S, because West had implied spades with his negative double, but declarer now knows that North held long spades anyway.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yikes!|pg|| nt|jtr: errr what?|pg|| mc|9|nt|hedyg: Waso suggests take K@H when he played small to J and play @C|pg|| nt|jtr: Jon. in Norway do they sometimes have 14 cards?:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: Jonny Hansen will be told a lesson or 2:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: South was marked with 1 or 0 spades.|pg|| nt|hedyg: that would have given him the chance for an extra tap|pg|| nt|brolucius: The board was an instructive example of (not) counting the hand. South has shown long clubs in the bidding and then shown up with four hearts and three diamonds.|pg|| nt|hedyg: so he could have the Q@S, but as singleton only|pg|| nt|jbgood: he had a blind spot ..|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKQ3HK4D9862CQ986,ST65HATDKT7CKJT54,SAJ2HQ8632DAQJ4C7,S9874HJ975D53CA32|sv|o|nt|jtr: But my partner was in the habit of opening it on @sKQxxxxx|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|hedyg: you had a problem there David|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|jtr: It was either change my partner or change the system...|pg|| mb|1N|nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Surely East will not double on that rubbish. Oh, he has bid 1@S.|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jbgood: Point against gambling 3 NT is that it is too easy to find the defense if it is the final contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: good partners are hard to find|pg|| nt|jbgood: results: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|hedyg: he has no pass card?|pg|| nt|jtr: E/W are speeding but there are no police around|pg|| nt|hedyg: Raymond have the pass cards been removed from the W box?|pg|| nt|jtr: Well, his partner certainly hasnt taken them|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@S is OK. 1@S was a bit bold.|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|jtr: Ah! The police arrived!|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Perhaps the speeding police were around...|pg|| nt|hedyg: i find 2@s just as bold|pg|| nt|jtr: Surely South will pass|pg|| nt|brolucius: 'May I see your bridge license, please?'|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Very nicely done|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jtr: What will the fine be?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|brolucius: East: 'It should be a flat board, partner. We can hardly avoid getting to 2@S.'|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|hedyg: do you want to ruff with KQx?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jtr: They can both ruff|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|jtr: Declarer should hasten to draw trumps|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jtr: However, that is not so easy with this holding|pg|| pc|c8|nt|jbgood: you could play trumps - but draw them?|pg|| pc|c4|nt|hedyg: easier if N had taken the @s|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h8|nt|jtr: J works best|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|sK|nt|brolucius: High heart for a diamond switch.|pg|| nt|jtr: No maybe the A is the same|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|brolucius: East did not have his 1@S bid, as I saw it, and on this occasion he has been made to pay the price. And that was with trumps breaking 3-3.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| mc|6|nt|jtr: The 2@s bid was fairly awful too|pg|| nt|brolucius: Good work from North-South, who deserve their fine score on the board.|pg|| nt|jtr: People always excuse themselves saying "But it is MatchPoints"|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@S was OK if 1@S promised five trumps. But, as you say, it did not in this partnership. Nor did it promise the values for a bid of any sort...|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S976542HJ9654DJC3,S8HTDT854CAKQT987,SJTHAQ872DKQ72CJ5,SAKQ3HK3DA963C642|sv|n|nt|jtr: I sometimes have to take my socks off so i can use the toes to count to 13|pg|| nt|brolucius: I have to add in two fingers to make it up to 13.|pg|| mb|5C|nt|jtr: This is not popular with the other players at the table|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: lead "down" to 140|pg|| nt|jbgood: good you didnt have to count to 21 then:)|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: nice technical bidding :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: 6NT was possible, since the lead will come through the @HK now.|pg|| nt|jtr: Interesting play too|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jbgood: Easy contract:)|pg|| nt|jtr: A low @d beats it i think|pg|| nt|jtr: Unlikely it is true|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs asking re gambling 3NT|pg|| nt|brolucius: I think East should have bid a Gambling 6NT opposite a 5@C opening.|pg|| nt|hedyg: well he cannot duck this ..|pg|| nt|jbgood: a lousy convention 3 NT gambling ...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: Quite likely that West would hold eight clubs for his 5@C bid.|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|hedyg: now claim|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|nt|hedyg: hmmm you dont like it Jon?|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jtr: I dont either|pg|| nt|jtr: used to play 3@s as that hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: and Marstrander doesn't either|pg|| mc|12|nt|brolucius: Jon and David are not gamblers. (Their wives do not allow it; neither does mine.) So we have to play a 3NT opening as something different. |pg|| nt|jbgood: lead close to 200 points again|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAKJ5HAQ75DAQ742C,SQ43HKJ9643D65C93,ST82HT2DK93CJT876,S976H8DJT8CAKQ542|sv|b|nt|hedyg: if N took 1st @s could be 500|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|jbgood: results: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Maybe 500 and 300 would bring a similar score. N-S did not have any game their way, it seems.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: a third X?|pg|| nt|hedyg: is the 3rd X penalty?|pg|| mb|p|pc|d3|nt|jtr: Nice lead|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jbgood: how many down?|pg|| nt|jtr: @c would be good too|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|jtr: at least 2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| nt|hedyg: @c better|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 or 4?|pg|| nt|jtr: But it is pointed out that some easts may open 3@c|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|jtr: for -800|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, a vulnerable 3@C would be OK.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jtr: OK if you are a masochist:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: If the bidding starts like this at other table, I would expect South to think that he was worth one more move of some sort.|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@ss and a @D?|pg|| nt|brolucius: other tables...|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jtr: Is Thelma preparing your lunch David?|pg|| nt|jbgood: NS are 2 ladies aspiring for the ladies team|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|brolucius: No, but I was just thinking that I felt a bit hungry. Time to put two ASDA hot-cross buns into the toaster perhaps. |pg|| nt|hedyg: they will need to learn to make penalty doubles|pg|| nt|jtr: You can cook then?:)|pg|| nt|jtr: Better go @hJ|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, you set the toaster to level 3.|pg|| nt|jtr: he knows South will ruff another @c otherwise|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jtr: Although South could have 107 left i suppose|pg|| pc|d7|nt|jtr: The @c pitch was just crazy|pg|| nt|hedyg: or Q10|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jtr: It only had the advantage that the world might have stopped turning before another card was played|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|jtr: In either case the 9 works|pg|| nt|jbgood: getting tired now - I suppose 500 will be ok|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SAQ76H85DKT974C75,SKJ84HAJ32D62CAQ4,ST52HQ76DAQ83CT92,S93HKT94DJ5CKJ863|sv|o|nt|brolucius: Those Easts who open 3@C may find it go Dble - Pass - Pass.|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1400 better|pg|| nt|jbgood: really?|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Hold on let me check|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jtr: yes, slightly better it seems:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|jtr: east did well to bid 4 if his partner can find the lady|pg|| nt|hedyg: especially with this lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu David - good to know we have an auditor around:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: East was worth only 3@H. Not a good idea to overbid at matchpoints.|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1st indication: she did not lead @H..|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|hedyg: trying to recouperate last board?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hedyg: voila!|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot go wrong in @s|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraph814: 5min break|pg|| nt|jbgood: for fresh air aoutdoors|pg|| nt|jtr: And nicotine?|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure!|pg|| nt|jtr: Since the smoking ban, more smokers are dying from pneumonia than cancer|pg|| nt|vugraph814: result: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|jbgood: imperativ??|pg|| nt|brolucius: Why waste money on cigarettes when you can waste it on wine instead?|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - to a kib|pg|| nt|jbgood: results: for fresh air aoutdoors|pg|| nt|hedyg: a cigarette and a glass of wine........|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nice one, on pneumonia. Not your own, presumably?|pg|| nt|jtr: It is actually|pg|| nt|brolucius: Very good, then!|pg|| nt|jtr: So kind|pg|| nt|jtr: If you use it in a book i expect a share of the royalties|pg|| nt|jbgood: alcohol is banned in Norwegian Master point tourneys (at least in theory)|pg|| nt|brolucius: It wasn't THAT good.|pg|| nt|jtr: Mind you, if you only make £2K a year it wont be much|pg|| nt|brolucius: How much I earn is a secret between me and the taxman.|pg|| nt|jtr: You mean you dont tell him/her?|pg|| nt|brolucius: To play safe, I over-declare.|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SQJT54HA74DT754C9,S9872HQ653DQJCT65,SHKJ982DAK9CAQ872,SAK63HTD8632CKJ43|sv|n|nt|hedyg: ok ty Raymond|pg|| nt|jtr: Hey didnt he lose 4@cs and a @d?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: right|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: fast arrival|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@C seems to be better on the North cards, with a void in partner's suit no asset.|pg|| nt|jtr: Deciding between 3 and 4@hs|pg|| nt|jbgood: according to the current standing http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=Bergen2009 it is about time to congratulate Anderssen - Marstrander with a nice victory and ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: fine play|pg|| nt|hedyg: how many more rounds Jon?|pg|| nt|jtr: 3|pg|| nt|hedyg: this + 3?|pg|| nt|jtr: think so|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jbgood: 3 this one inclusive|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|jtr: isnt this round 48?|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: West does not like the look of the diamond position and attempts to obscure it by false-carding the DQ from @DQ-J.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - 4 this one included|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jtr: can play to make all his @hs|pg|| nt|hedyg: must ruff @s now|pg|| nt|jtr: @d works too surely?|pg|| nt|jtr: lose 2@hs and a @c|pg|| nt|brolucius: A learned kibitzer tells me: ruff 3 @S home, 3 @C in dummy, cash AK @D and gets @C A, that will be 8 @H tricks 1 @C and 2 @D= 11.|pg|| nt|brolucius: In other words a trump promotion that will allow him to score all his trumps.|pg|| nt|jbgood: bridge is a bidder's game - leaders have been declaring 65 % of the boards according to a kib:)|pg|| nt|jtr: Overdeclaring like DB9 and the taxman|pg|| nt|brolucius: I expect there is a pair near the bottom that has played 65% of the boards too! There is more to it than overbidding... |pg|| nt|jtr: You speak from experience maybe?:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: Bro always speak from experience:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: *speaks|pg|| nt|jtr: lol|pg|| pc|s4|nt|brolucius: Since I am well-known as a timid underbidder, you can answer that question yourself. We all have our different methods for finishing near the bottom.|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jtr: I dont i am afraid|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|nt|jtr: Maybe you could publish a book on it?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg|| nt|hedyg: we could all send in our methods|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hK|nt|brolucius: I thought that you always had my books 'near the bottom'.|pg|| mc|10|nt|jtr: I cherish them dearly:)|pg|| nt|jtr: Except the signed ones of course|pg|| nt|jbgood: we all love Davids caracters and books|pg|| nt|jbgood: even the signed ones:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|jtr: The signed ones are ok too but a lot less valuable|pg|| nt|brolucius: EBAY charges extra for books that have 'only a small signature on this one'.|pg|| nt|jbgood: one kib disagreed - he must be among the smallest of minorities'|pg|| nt|hedyg: is he allowed to watch?|pg|| nt|jtr: No it is just me using an assumed name:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|jbgood: free speach etc...|pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SK7HT9872DT97652C,ST4HQJ653DKQ4CAJ6,SAJ9HAKDJCK875432,SQ86532H4DA83CQT9|sv|e|nt|jtr: Like you do at Bridge|pg|| nt|brolucius: hah!|pg|| nt|hedyg: lolol|pg|| nt|hedyg: excellent!|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|hedyg: just what S wanted to hear|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: now he is thrilled|pg|| nt|jtr: and relieved|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jtr: Cant blame North really|pg|| nt|hedyg: happy not be vulnerable|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jbgood: you cannot expect less Hedy - some brits (and irish) do have a sense of humour:)'|pg|| nt|brolucius: West does not need to waste a heart honour, of course.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|jtr: and he could have suit preferenced for @ds|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|hedyg: i am trying not to say ooops anymore|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|brolucius: A sound New Year resolution.|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not an easy one for Hedy to keep, though.|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jtr: Just in time for the Chinese New Year|pg|| nt|jbgood: yeah - ooooh is much better|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|nt|jtr: South is very happy|pg|| nt|hedyg: relieved more like it|pg|| nt|jtr: Maybe saying "Can't you make an overtrick partner?"|pg|| nt|vugraph814: -1 on the last one|pg|| nt|hedyg: lead back up to 190|pg|| pg|| qx|o33|st||md|3SQT4HA752D3CAKJ32,S8765HK93DJT65CQ7,S932HJ4DAQ9874C54,SAKJHQT86DK2CT986|sv|o|nt|jtr: I would think -500 will be poor|pg|| nt|brolucius: The first six words that I would choose to describe the 5@D bid are not allowed on BBO. (Three of the next six are banned too).|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Which 3 are allowed?|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 3 @d?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Jon, a kibitzer asks for the results site. Can you put it up once again?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://online.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| nt|jtr: 2@d surely|pg|| nt|jtr: Now i mean|pg|| nt|jtr: cant let them play 1NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: he seems to disagree|pg|| nt|jbgood: quite a few would open 3@d - having 2@d for some artificial stuff|pg|| nt|jtr: However, if declarer goes wrong in @hs this could be 150|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: oh my|pg|| nt|jtr: Although.....|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: and there i was thinking about double of 1NT..|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jbgood: Espen is a strong believer in doing what he thinks is right |pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|brolucius: Aren't we all?|pg|| nt|jtr: david is finding some words not to be able to use in relation to the lead:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|brolucius: I have approval from the top BBO authorities to say that it did not turn out as brilliantly as it might have done.|pg|| nt|jbgood: he is never out of words |pg|| nt|hedyg: unfortunate lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: tried the famous Zia lead|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|jtr: He could still have been brilliant after leading the @cA though|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| nt|jtr: had it been indicated by dummy|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jtr: At least he got this right|pg|| mc|6|nt|brolucius: How many more boards are we expecting?|pg|| pg|| qx|o34|st||md|4SAJ3HQ2DQ9CA97642,SK86HJ54DAK643CJ5,SQ95HKT876D5CKQ83,ST742HA93DJT872CT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|brolucius: People are free to keep whatever books they like in the downstairs toilet.|pg|| nt|jtr: Double showing @hs?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: S is the new star who plays regularly with Brogeland|pg|| mb|5D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: if they play transfer bids X=@H|pg|| nt|jtr: 5@d is a little precipitate|pg|| pc|cK|nt|brolucius: Cannot begin to understand 5@D.|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jtr: Well, 5@c would make if they bid it|pg|| nt|hedyg: good sac|pg|| nt|jtr: But they hadnt yet|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4@D caused the opponents a problem and West bid 5@D before they had been forced to seek a solution to the problem.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|jbgood: David cannot begin to understand - I cannot stop wondering..|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW are on fire|pg|| nt|brolucius: If I did understand why 5@D was a good bid, I would not be able to stop worrying about it.|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jtr: Maybe it was just a lucky bid?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jtr: Although he could equally well have been lucky had they bid 5@c|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jtr: Had he played a @s there the defence would have needed to be clever|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| mc|8|nt|hedyg: @s before @H|pg|| pg|| qx|o35|st||md|1SAT9532HJT8D762C7,SKQ4HA92DJ53CAT98,S876HQ7653DKQ8CJ6,SJHK4DAT94CKQ5432|sv|e|nt|jtr: Why cant East have @sAKxxxxx, @h x, @dxx, !Axxx|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jtr: Has he got to bid 5@s with that?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|jtr: Nicely done by East!|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 NT by Marstrander now:) |pg|| nt|hedyg: can i still bid 3NT?|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: West's @SK-Q-x do not point towards a club slam.|pg|| nt|jtr: 4NT natural?|pg|| nt|hedyg: sry Jon|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: A fine effort by E-W.|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: syr - tried to be humorous|pg|| nt|jtr: again.....|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jtr: Their lead was trimmed a little by the last round|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|jtr: The 500 was very poor|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|hedyg: even 5NT was still good|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s9|pc|cT|nt|jtr: Before they used screens, you could bid 4NT and close your cards|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|nt|brolucius: It was North's well-judged 3@S that made 3NT difficult to reach. Had he passed, East could have said 3@C and West could then bid 3NT.|pg|| pc|c9|nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|hedyg: and fold your cards?|pg|| nt|jtr: right|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|dT|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jtr: Small squeeze chance|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: In the old days surely you could bid 3NT over 4@C and then make your bid good, silencing partner.|pg|| nt|jtr: @dKQ and QJ10 or 6 @hs with North|pg|| mc|12|nt|jtr: eh?|pg|| nt|hedyg: i dont believe it|pg|| nt|jtr: no overtrick surely?|pg|| nt|hedyg: Raymond?|pg|| nt|jtr: wont matter much anyway|pg|| nt|vugraph814: they sad 12 to me when thay claimed|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg|| nt|jbgood: if S let go a heart ...|pg|| nt|jtr: ah right!|pg|| nt|hedyg: why should he?|pg|| nt|jbgood: N was squeezed|pg|| nt|hedyg: he had nothing else|pg|| nt|jtr: Because he is friendly?|pg|| nt|jbgood: I didnt defend the defense:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: there are limits to friendliness|pg|| nt|brolucius: Someone should write a book on 'how to claim'. Chapter 7: 'When Claiming is the Only Chance'.|pg|| nt|hedyg: someone?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Chapter 10: 'Famous Claims That Went Unchallenged'.|pg|| nt|jbgood: someone by the name of ...|pg|| nt|jtr: there was a hand once where declarer claimed a Grand Slam missing Qxxx trumps|pg|| nt|jtr: One defender said Ok and put his cards back in the board|pg|| nt|hedyg: and 1 opp accepted?|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|jtr: So the other objected|pg|| nt|brolucius: "This deal, reminiscent of the notorious David Greenwood claim of 5@C doubled in 1972..." |pg|| nt|jtr: The one that conceded had Qx trump:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o36|st||md|2SHK53DAJT853CAKQ5,SQJ973HT942D9CJT2,S852HQJ876D7642C8,SAKT64HADKQC97643|sv|b|nt|jtr: 4|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4, I am told.|pg|| nt|hedyg: way past lunchtime..|pg|| nt|brolucius: This looks quite lively.|pg|| nt|jtr: 4@s 5@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Members of some of the lesser universities would open 2@S on the West cards.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|hedyg: oh please!|pg|| nt|jtr: Lesser universes you mean?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|hedyg: you all like double by S?|pg|| nt|jtr: Now the problem|pg|| nt|jtr: Will probably double i guess|pg|| mb|d|nt|brolucius: He might have bid 2@D first and then doubled 4@S.|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: could have bid 2@D and 4NT now|pg|| nt|hedyg: he doesnt have enough @hs to play in @H and ruff @ss|pg|| mb|5H|nt|jtr: Too little for 5@h i think|pg|| nt|jtr: East will think so too|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Oh West thought so|pg|| nt|jtr: God knows why|pg|| pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Seems that East had a double, as David said.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: disc @ss on @C|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|jtr: noooo|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|nt|jbgood: oooooh|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jtr: ooops|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jtr: Played to make|pg|| nt|hedyg: hurts to watch|pg|| nt|brolucius: Kibitzers say that East's pass over 5@H was forcing. That may be, although it is not clear in general terms why it should be. But did East have enough to invite 5@S? I think he ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: should have doubled anyway.|pg|| mc|8|nt|jbgood: Reidar Johnsen is a very decent player|pg|| pg|| qx|o37|st||md|3SA73HJ8DKJ984CA42,SJT8HQT93DQ62CK95,SKQ9HAK76D53CT863,S6542H542DAT7CQJ7|sv|n|nt|hedyg: cute :)|pg|| nt|jtr: I remember that hand!|pg|| nt|jtr: It was on a Tuesday and it was raining|pg|| nt|brolucius: Is declarer not allowed to take any finesses after claiming? He would then pick up Q-x.|pg|| nt|jbgood: This is the penultimate board of Bergen Grand Tournament 2009, and some thanks are due. First thanks go to Raymond Laastad, our rookie operator in Bergen. Tricky job - well done! ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: Our appreciation also goes to the Bergen Akademisk BK, and Marianne Harding, Sølvi Remen, Kristine Breivik and Hilde Larsen who have been instrumental in providing us with this ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice show.|pg|| nt|jtr: Dont spoil my story!|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you Raymond :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: A kibitzer reminds me of a story by the great Mollo: 'walter the walrus had a lonesome top in 3nt. claiming 5 tricks on AKQ32 to 9876 without transportations. 3-1 break"|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: And thank you to BBO and Roland Wald for making it possible to watch these first rate events|pg|| nt|hedyg: we have a lady at the club who does that regularly ........|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Another literary kibitzer recalls: "It was an equal top - the Hideous Hog also made it"|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: usually gets away with it too|pg|| nt|jbgood: results: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=Bergen2009|pg|| nt|jtr: 2@d forcing An interesting idea|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: XYZ i am told|pg|| pc|s6|nt|hedyg: 2@c would have forced a 2@d bid|pg|| nt|jtr: I have trouble with ABC|pg|| nt|jbgood: game forsce in the xyz |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|jtr: wow!|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|jtr: ah:)|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|hedyg: like 2way checkback, but played also as here without 1NT rebid|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|brolucius: West must be careful now.|pg|| nt|jtr: I really must go now people Thanks for watching TTFN|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|hedyg: ty David, bye|pg|| nt|brolucius: He will be helped by North's heart rebid.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c5|nt|jbgood: Also tu fellow commentators David B, David G and Hedy, for devoting your time and expertise to guide us through these hands. In a most humorous way appreciated by our big ...|pg|| nt|jbgood: audience! |pg|| pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you Jon :) and you|pg|| nt|brolucius: West discarded well.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o38|st||md|4SQ84HA96DA5CJ9643,ST65HQ54DKT76CK87,SAKJ732HDQ832CAQ2,S9HKJT8732DJ94CT5|sv|e|nt|hedyg: lead 142.5|pg|| nt|hedyg: congrats to Marstrander Anderssen. it has been a pleasure watching them|pg|| nt|jbgood: And last, but not least, a big hand to the audience for insightful inputs. You are great!|pg|| nt|hedyg: the best!|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: multi 2@d|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - the winners have been playing consistently througout|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: can pick up the @cs for no losers|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|jbgood: and of course if you fancy (and to my mind only one doesnt) David Bird's humour, go and buy one or five of his 99 books!:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: slam is there|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: If they bid and make a slam, it will be a great end to the entertainment. Well, they have bid it!|pg|| pc|d4|nt|brolucius: And that is the best lead, it seems.|pg|| nt|hedyg: indeed|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|brolucius: Declarer can throw the club loser on the @HA, and perhaps ruff a diamond. |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jbgood: Tommy Skalmerås has done some maths and found that the winners before the ultimate round have scored 57.6 %. Tu Tommy!|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|mc|12|nt|hedyg: claim now after asking who has K@C|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all! have a nice day|pg|| nt|jbgood: Atle Grevstad is a good player |pg|| nt|brolucius: A world-class kibitzer tells me: spade lead is best - declarer needs to handle clubs with no losers|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu all - hope you enjoyed:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: and then he makes 13 tricks :)|pg|| nt|vugraph814: ty all.. have a nice day|pg|| pg||